Lecter's keyboard work in this record was magnificent and flawless, too bad that he didn't last long in Cradle. Him, Stuart and Nick were the masterminds in this very album.
This guy TOTALLY nailed this. The voices of Dani alone, but now you can hear all the choirs better, Sarah and the actress better, and the interplay (and especially the upmixing of the whispers and the deep vampire guy voice Dani uses are WONDERFUL fucking touches). Musically, in some places the synths now overpower the guitars, but we've also never HEARD those synth lines, they were fucking buried, so it's almost NEW music in those spots. I'll take the tradeoff. The drums crack and thunder, as they should, Barker is one of THE BEST at intensity on blasts. To me, this feels like a fucking personal opera version, in headphones OR good speakers, with balls and surround (and perhaps, as intended originally) I'm not even a super Cradle fan, but this album's songwriting and effort at arrangement made it the masterpiece it was. And NOW you add a better job than even Steven WIlson could do??? :O I mean this is literally like the guys who clean the old paintings in Sistine Chapel. After years of dirt and muck, NOW you can SEE the art breathe. If only fucking Ihsahn would allow this for Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, if ever another album DESERVED this kind of production, my fucking god....
@@chiefindisguise @kodanshi Helcarver Please check out my friend's page @Remastered Black Metal Albums and project, he remasters a bunch of stuff. I bought a "Anthems" remix from him it was awesome, appears YT took it down, but his YT page has tons of stuff czcams.com/channels/n9tlagzAcYvA1eduuYDYQA.html
@Belial 777 I produce, No, these would be either original tracks, enhanced to come to the forefront in the mix, or extra tracks added in because the band chose not to use them in the final mix. It would be rare to have the artist pop back in studio to re-record or ask another person to do them. Plus Dani is still able to execute, if their latest live work is any guide.
yeah man. i tried super hard to bring back in barkers kick drums by using software to identify a harmonic of the kick drum and using it to trigger a sample. thats how desperate i was
Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring Her spinal chill rakes the earth Whilst pensive souls at zero sing Woebetidings of rebirth Under cold stares of Mars maligned Near-suicides cross their hearts And unborns writhe in tepid brine For something wicked this way starts Beneath the howling stars Elizabeth, paragon of vice Watches the sun set pyres alight As Bane and Tyranny, Her Dobermans sleep Like spellbound paramours at Her feet A chatter of bells without Raise hellhounds, teeth on edge From sleighs hastened through snow lit red Guests espied from the garret ledge Great gloomy mirror tell Her face She will outblind them all That heavenly bodies would fall from grace To possess such a lustrous pall For beauty is always Cruel For beauty is always (Let destiny in chains commence Damnation under Gods seeking recompense Enslaving to the whims of this mistress) As the dance ensued Elizabeth's mood Tempered by the craft of a vitreous moon In slick black iciness it grew To consume The wench Her tower tombed Tending to Her costume Bore the brunt of the storm When the needle askewed She has Her dogs maul the bitch's wrists through Restored to jaded bliss This evisceratrix Descended to the ball With painted blood upon Her lips Passing like a comet so white As to eclipse The waltz wound down, transfixed Devoid of all breath in the air Even Death paled to compare To the taint of Her splendour So rare and engendered 'Pon the awed throng gathered There Beneath the howling stars She danced so macabre Men entranced divined from Her gait That this angel stepped from a pedestal Had won remission from fate By alighting to darker spheres Delighting in held sway For She was not unlike the Goddess To whom the wolves bayed "Whilst envy glanced daggers From court maidens, arboured Who whispered in sects Of suspicions abroad That Elizabeth bewitched See how even now the whore casts Her spells upon the Black Count Whom Her reddened lips hold fast" Tongue unto tongue Swept on tides without care For the harpies who rallied Their maledict glares A halo of ravens tousled Her hair Chandeliers a tiara For passions ensnared "Phantasies sexed When their eyes, moonstruck met Their friction wore a way Through the sea of foreplay Lovers at first biteShe an Eve tempted to lay Gasping at rafters Flesh pressed in ballet" But caprice, honours leashed She absconded the feast To prowl wonderland Beasts in hand from the Keep Of Feudal dilemma Well mantled in furs Through cullis to watch Dogstars howl at the earth On this violent night Unholy night Winds lashed their limbs together As the ether vent its wintry spite She wished His kiss on Her frozen landscapes To excite the bleak advance From castle bowers Wherein small hours The Devil never came by chance A lone charm tied to Her inner thigh Sent lusts nova as hooves trod Cobbled streets where lowlives fleet Were flung to a wayward god Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring Her spinal chill rakes the earth Whilst pensive souls at zero sing Woebetidings of rebirth Under cold stares of Mars maligned Near-suicides cross their hearts And unborns writhe in tepid brine For something wicked this way starts Beneath the howling stars Pounding upon the pauper ridge Earshot of a hunched beldame Elizabeth teased, would He dare to please Such elderly loins enflamed? To this He feigned a grim disdain Playing to Her slayful eye But the hag replied "This girl that chides Will soon be as plagued with age as I" Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath For Elizabeth's grace could raise A flag of truce in burning heaven Or the dead from early graves Yet still She seethed This proud Snow Queen Embittered with the cursed retort And because He sought Her loves onslaught He gutted the crone for sport Soon in full moon fever they were wed Lycanthropic in the conjugal bed Littered with aphrodisiacs To tease dynastic union And beget them further maniacs Elizabeth Free reigned, now a Countess Outwielded and outwore Her title like a favoured dress Whilst Her errant Lord Whose seasons savoured war Stormed black to fell the infidel Her embers, tempered, roared.
bought the cd when came out,i couldn't believe what they ve done in the production.specially in drums.what an amazing band and album.one of my all time favourite bands in metal since dusk that i 've found them.so maybe thats why dusk for me is first and cruelty second
Saw them at ozfest 2001, best performance there. Live on radio 1. So dani made a point of swearing as many times as he could in 1 sentence. 🤣 Listening to them again after a loooong break and just sends chills over my body like I'm there again! \m/
I like the old artwork better. Awesome as fuck hearing all the differences between the 2 versions though. Ive probably listened to this album way to many times to count since a teenager, so it's nice hearing it a bit different
I am very impressed with this remix/remaster... It's a totally different experience for this old school Cradle fan. I will be purchasing this on vinyl. Yes, it's that good....
This is pretty much my favourity COF Lineup. In particular, Barker und Robin Graves were the best rhythm section they had. Very memorable, distinctive bass lines and all out war drumming - but very tasteful.
She danced so macabre Men entranced divined from her gait That this angel stepped from a pedestal Had won remission from fate By alighting to darker spheres Delighting in held sway For she was not unlike the Goddess To whom the wolves bayed
Cruelty was the first Cradle cd I bought, and the poor production never bothered me. Bought the remistressed cd and after first listen I still loved the original better. But after numerous times I have to admit, I think I like this better.
When I have kids they'll for some reason the energy listen to the remaster version But when I'm with adults or want the rush of wonderful Adrenaline I'll be listening to the original
Ironically, this is one of those weird CATB tracks that don't really need any exaggerated remastering as far as the drums go. The reason for this is simple - here, you can actually discern Barker's trademark kicks from his snare :)
Enjoy them both! A bigger difference between them i thought. The first weird poppy production and this more metal production. This remaster REALLY good thou.
Rene Aensland Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath For Elizabeth's grace could raise A flag of truce in burning heaven Or the dead from early graves Yet still She seethed This proud Snow Queen Embittered with the cursed retort And because He sought Her loves onslaught He gutted the crone for spo
This album became a classic for me with the remixing work. I always knew there was great music in there somewhere but the original release was just too flawed for me to get on with unfortunately.
Finally we can listen to this song with a full blast of Nick Barker... somehow I always thought the sound of his drums on this album was the reason for his departure... and the drum sounds becomes very poor from this song on
Damn... I remember reading an interview with Nicholas, ages ago in some UK magazine, how they got drunk somewhere, Nicholas somehow got hurt and bleeding, and they just left him like that at the entrance of some hospital. I really can't remember the details, and they did a lot of drunken crap back in the day, but I was under the impression that they didn't quite respect him.
@@Zaragil Dani had an ego, from all the interviews to the magazines I read as a kid. Telling his fans to fuck off when wanting autographs outside of gigs. It's why Cradle suffered loyalty issues.
Beneath - the - Howling... STAAAAAAAAARSSS!!!!!!
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Yeah. That's a lyric. Thumbs up, buddy.
Now tell us what the song is about.
How deaf people listen to Cradle lol
@@canteventhough 😂🤣💀5 months and not a word lol
@@kevinvigil5867
*Looks on*
There we go.
People don't realize the deep voice and the raspy vampire are both Dani Filth. He is incredible. The greatest vocalist.
People do
Literally everyone knows that
and the girl's voice too
umm..maybe you didnt? :D Others do know this :D
people also dont realize he sounds like a dying animal live compared to studio versions
Lecter's keyboard work in this record was magnificent and flawless, too bad that he didn't last long in Cradle. Him, Stuart and Nick were the masterminds in this very album.
One of their best lineup
How much writing did Gian do? I've always liked him as well.
This remaster goes on to show Nick barker’s drumming skill is truly unparalleled. Cradle was never the same since his departure.
I agree
But andrian was a joy to listen too with his style of drumming
Best COf album of all times, and the most beloved band formation... Robin, Lecter, Nicholas, Gian, Stuart and Dani...
Definitely their best lineup. And don't forget Sarah, she is freaking incredible.
And Sarah, she was brilliant
The best gothic poetry to ever exist.
This music showed me the beauty of the english language back when I didn't care to learn it so much. So inspiring. Still a masterpiece.
At 7:03 I feel like I should stand as though it’s an anthem. It’s one of the most glorious things ever written.
This guy TOTALLY nailed this. The voices of Dani alone, but now you can hear all the choirs better, Sarah and the actress better, and the interplay (and especially the upmixing of the whispers and the deep vampire guy voice Dani uses are WONDERFUL fucking touches).
Musically, in some places the synths now overpower the guitars, but we've also never HEARD those synth lines, they were fucking buried, so it's almost NEW music in those spots. I'll take the tradeoff.
The drums crack and thunder, as they should, Barker is one of THE BEST at intensity on blasts.
To me, this feels like a fucking personal opera version, in headphones OR good speakers, with balls and surround (and perhaps, as intended originally)
I'm not even a super Cradle fan, but this album's songwriting and effort at arrangement made it the masterpiece it was.
And NOW you add a better job than even Steven WIlson could do??? :O
I mean this is literally like the guys who clean the old paintings in Sistine Chapel. After years of dirt and muck, NOW you can SEE the art breathe.
If only fucking Ihsahn would allow this for Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk, if ever another album DESERVED this kind of production, my fucking god....
I would love to hear such a glorious remastering of Anthems!
Agreed, if i hear Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk with this insane clarity, atmosphere and quality i would be a very happy man.
@@chiefindisguise @kodanshi Helcarver Please check out my friend's page @Remastered Black Metal Albums and project, he remasters a bunch of stuff. I bought a "Anthems" remix from him it was awesome, appears YT took it down, but his YT page has tons of stuff czcams.com/channels/n9tlagzAcYvA1eduuYDYQA.html
This is the best comment for far
Sorry I type way too fast
@Belial 777 I produce, No, these would be either original tracks, enhanced to come to the forefront in the mix, or extra tracks added in because the band chose not to use them in the final mix. It would be rare to have the artist pop back in studio to re-record or ask another person to do them. Plus Dani is still able to execute, if their latest live work is any guide.
Best Cradle album
The remaster sounds sick
True
@gottfer shut up, idiot
Is a Masterpiece!!!
Right I LOVE THIS Album it's one my favorites
It was definitely needed. I've been listening to the original since it came out in the late 90s, and it's like hearing an entirely new album now.
I’ll never forget listening to this on my spongebob CD Player when I was 11 years old. To my cousin Alex, a billion thank yous.
I like that the remaster just makes the recording sound better rather than changing up the feel of it. It STILL sounds like Cruelty and the Beast.
What is not to Love about a concept album dedicated to Elizabeth Bathory … The Bloody Countess? Magnificent … Beneath the Howling … Staaaaaaars!
Yess!! Finally the sound that drums deserve.
yeah man. i tried super hard to bring back in barkers kick drums by using software to identify a harmonic of the kick drum and using it to trigger a sample. thats how desperate i was
Finally a remaster! The original 1998 sounded good, but was still missing something. This is just perfect!
*¿Who Listening And Remembering*
*This Extreme Masterpiece During This Quarentine?*
*Stay In Homme.*
Fuck stay in home
Stay free
Amazing the improvement, finally some damn justice for Nick.
here, here !
Nick Barker is a beast!
Yea nick always gets shut out unless live
That justice was 20 years too late for Mick. He needs to come back
This is my #1 favorite album of all time.
I have lost my mind innumerable times to these songs.
I bought cruelty and the beast almost immediately after it came out... Such fun times
This is the Beneath the Howling Stars that I've always wanted. Thank you for this remaster.
Dude this is an album like I listen to over and over
DAMNNNNN THAT DRUMMSSSSSSSS BROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
The album is out now and it sounds PERFECT!!! This is the one!!
Still amazes after so much time…
Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring
Her spinal chill rakes the earth
Whilst pensive souls at zero sing
Woebetidings of rebirth
Under cold stares of Mars maligned
Near-suicides cross their hearts
And unborns writhe in tepid brine
For something wicked this way starts
Beneath the howling stars
Elizabeth, paragon of vice
Watches the sun set pyres alight
As Bane and Tyranny, Her Dobermans sleep
Like spellbound paramours at Her feet
A chatter of bells without
Raise hellhounds, teeth on edge
From sleighs hastened through snow lit red
Guests espied from the garret ledge
Great gloomy mirror tell Her face
She will outblind them all
That heavenly bodies would fall from grace
To possess such a lustrous pall
For beauty is always Cruel
For beauty is always
(Let destiny in chains commence
Damnation under Gods seeking recompense
Enslaving to the whims of this mistress)
As the dance ensued
Elizabeth's mood
Tempered by the craft of a vitreous moon
In slick black iciness it grew
To consume
The wench Her tower tombed
Tending to Her costume
Bore the brunt of the storm
When the needle askewed
She has Her dogs maul the bitch's wrists through
Restored to jaded bliss
This evisceratrix
Descended to the ball
With painted blood upon Her lips
Passing like a comet so white
As to eclipse
The waltz wound down, transfixed
Devoid of all breath in the air
Even Death paled to compare
To the taint of Her splendour
So rare and engendered
'Pon the awed throng gathered
There
Beneath the howling stars
She danced so macabre
Men entranced divined from Her gait
That this angel stepped from a pedestal
Had won remission from fate
By alighting to darker spheres
Delighting in held sway
For She was not unlike the Goddess
To whom the wolves bayed
"Whilst envy glanced daggers
From court maidens, arboured
Who whispered in sects
Of suspicions abroad
That Elizabeth bewitched
See how even now the whore casts
Her spells upon the Black Count
Whom Her reddened lips hold fast"
Tongue unto tongue
Swept on tides without care
For the harpies who rallied
Their maledict glares
A halo of ravens tousled Her hair
Chandeliers a tiara
For passions ensnared
"Phantasies sexed
When their eyes, moonstruck met
Their friction wore a way
Through the sea of foreplay
Lovers at first biteShe an Eve tempted to lay
Gasping at rafters
Flesh pressed in ballet"
But caprice, honours leashed
She absconded the feast
To prowl wonderland
Beasts in hand from the Keep
Of Feudal dilemma
Well mantled in furs
Through cullis to watch
Dogstars howl at the earth
On this violent night
Unholy night
Winds lashed their limbs together
As the ether vent its wintry spite
She wished His kiss on Her frozen landscapes
To excite the bleak advance
From castle bowers
Wherein small hours
The Devil never came by chance
A lone charm tied to Her inner thigh
Sent lusts nova as hooves trod
Cobbled streets where lowlives fleet
Were flung to a wayward god
Midwinter wrongs the rites of Spring
Her spinal chill rakes the earth
Whilst pensive souls at zero sing
Woebetidings of rebirth
Under cold stares of Mars maligned
Near-suicides cross their hearts
And unborns writhe in tepid brine
For something wicked this way starts
Beneath the howling stars
Pounding upon the pauper ridge
Earshot of a hunched beldame
Elizabeth teased, would He dare to please
Such elderly loins enflamed?
To this He feigned a grim disdain
Playing to Her slayful eye
But the hag replied
"This girl that chides
Will soon be as plagued with age as I"
Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath
For Elizabeth's grace could raise
A flag of truce in burning heaven
Or the dead from early graves
Yet still She seethed
This proud Snow Queen
Embittered with the cursed retort
And because He sought Her loves onslaught
He gutted the crone for sport
Soon in full moon fever they were wed
Lycanthropic in the conjugal bed
Littered with aphrodisiacs
To tease dynastic union
And beget them further maniacs
Elizabeth
Free reigned, now a Countess
Outwielded and outwore
Her title like a favoured dress
Whilst Her errant Lord
Whose seasons savoured war
Stormed black to fell the infidel
Her embers, tempered, roared.
I have never seen music remastered better
Masterpiece of Black Metal Music! =)
bought the cd when came out,i couldn't believe what they ve done in the production.specially in drums.what an amazing band and album.one of my all time favourite bands in metal since dusk that i 've found them.so maybe thats why dusk for me is first and cruelty second
I love this song...such a creepy beginning. Makes me want to...
the 90 were beautiful ! good memories
Barker and the beast!! Definitively and finally justice has come for Niklas, nothing more to say, just let this album crush our ears¡¡¡
I think this is probably my favorite CoF track.... and now remastered! It sounds amazing!
True
Beautiful dark poetry and melodic mayhem... Perfection incarnate! CoF will always have a special place in my black heart \m/ 🖤 \m/
The perfect music ! My favorite album ever
Cruelty is the best album hands down.
Thanks... this album help me to sleep and say goodbye to the stress and anxiety... and this isn't a joke!!! Totally Relaxing !!!
When he lets go of that STARRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSS! complet insanity!!!!!! Just the best vocalist of his time in that genre
Saw them at ozfest 2001, best performance there. Live on radio 1. So dani made a point of swearing as many times as he could in 1 sentence. 🤣 Listening to them again after a loooong break and just sends chills over my body like I'm there again! \m/
I like the old artwork better. Awesome as fuck hearing all the differences between the 2 versions though. Ive probably listened to this album way to many times to count since a teenager, so it's nice hearing it a bit different
These lyrics would bring even Shakespeare to tears
My favorite cradle of filth song. I need this
What an album!
Nice one of my favorite albums from Cradle of filth, and now it's remastered! Amazing.
I can finally listen to barker without having to pain stakingly discern what he is playing in the original abomination of a mix.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MY WHOLE LIFE
So much me too
me too
SAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
I WUVS this Song and album🖤🖤🖤
I am very impressed with this remix/remaster... It's a totally different experience for this old school Cradle fan. I will be purchasing this on vinyl. Yes, it's that good....
This is pretty much my favourity COF Lineup. In particular, Barker und Robin Graves were the best rhythm section they had. Very memorable, distinctive bass lines and all out war drumming - but very tasteful.
Beneath the howling staaaaaaaaaaars!
She danced so macabre
Men entranced divined from her gait
That this angel stepped from a pedestal
Had won remission from fate
By alighting to darker spheres
Delighting in held sway
For she was not unlike the Goddess
To whom the wolves bayed
Finally after almost 20 years drums sound sick! Maybe best remastered version after nevermore’s enemy of reality remaster!
5:57 goosebumps
Beautiful 👍👍👍👍
u 2
Enter album is a
Flawless. My personal cof favorite
SO MANY FUKIN MEMORIESSSSSSSS
The best song from Cradle of Filth! The vocal is very powerful!!!
I identify with the countess a lot more now that I'm in my 30s 🤣
Cruelty was the first Cradle cd I bought, and the poor production never bothered me. Bought the remistressed cd and after first listen I still loved the original better. But after numerous times I have to admit, I think I like this better.
Im kinda used to the type writter sound drums. This remaster is a breath of fresh air. Both old and remaster versions are good tho.
Remaster of a best album probably in black metall genre
Finally, we got it here!!!! I couldnt even wait one more day!!!! love it!! ♥
Amazing tune
Ouch, this remaster is a dream come true
RIP Stuart!!!
Probs the best remaster ive ever heard
Look forward to listening to this on a decent sound system instead of my shite phone speaker.
Waiting for the vinyl!!
@@AbigorRealm69 looks great, blood red.
I can only say it sounds so good on my kit it almost makes me shed a tear.
@@davidupton73 Nice
Dude I hope you've gotten the hap, it's... So beautiful.
The best song of CoF eveeeeeeeeer !!
Let destiny in chains commence
exelent drums
Everyone is talking about the drums being better in this mix.
Correct.
everything is better in the remix =D
Yea the bass and snare are more full but you barely hear his splash cymbals on some fills
@@Fox1-v6k not the guitars 😔
I truly feel like one on the dark side when listening to this.
Adoro esse álbum ❤
Well done on this one. Will be making that vinyl purchase soon.
every fukking song a classic
1:58 ちょと待て紅茶がめちゃヤッスーイ
Not gonna lie ... The original mix of this album has really grown on me over the years.
This one is still pretty decent.
When I have kids they'll for some reason the energy listen to the remaster version
But when I'm with adults or want the rush of wonderful Adrenaline I'll be listening to the original
PERFECT!!!
Beneath thehowling sttaaaaaaaaarrrrsssssss!
NICHOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS BAAAAAAAAAAARRRKEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I know RIGHT!??! This is precisely what his drum work needed 🤘
I read that in dani screech
uh marthus totally owns him, but whatever i guess who gives a fuck
@@hansolo2110 yea right you know nothing on drums
@@hansolo2110 What does that mean? Are you suggesting that the drums are worse sounding now? You know nothing if that's the case.
doesn't sound so plastic anymore! good.
🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
I'll buy the Album
Essa e pra bater cabeca!!
Ironically, this is one of those weird CATB tracks that don't really need any exaggerated remastering as far as the drums go. The reason for this is simple - here, you can actually discern Barker's trademark kicks from his snare :)
RiP Stuart Anstis. Man, I can't believe he's gone...
This song made the dead countess alive again!It's that good.
cradle of filth so feel good!!!!!!!!!!!
Enjoy them both! A bigger difference between them i thought. The first weird poppy production and this more metal production. This remaster REALLY good thou.
This girl that Chides will soon be plagued with age as I!
Rene Aensland Her consort laughed a plume of icy breath
For Elizabeth's grace could raise
A flag of truce in burning heaven
Or the dead from early graves
Yet still She seethed
This proud Snow Queen
Embittered with the cursed retort
And because He sought Her loves onslaught
He gutted the crone for spo
This sounds great. Original was great, but this is level further
¡¡Temazo!!
Legendary Masterpiece! \m/ \m/
This song is what got me into COF.
what in the hell is happening at 4:30... eargasm to the max
ooooooooooooo myyyyyyyyyyyyyyy goooooooooooood always waiting for this
more powerful than the original version 1998.
20.04.2023❤
You guys really f.....
Rock
RIP Stuart \m/
я на них вырос, Крэдлы руляяят!!!
This album became a classic for me with the remixing work. I always knew there was great music in there somewhere but the original release was just too flawed for me to get on with unfortunately.
I WANT A LP!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Finally we can listen to this song with a full blast of Nick Barker... somehow I always thought the sound of his drums on this album was the reason for his departure... and the drum sounds becomes very poor from this song on
He left because he and Dani got drunk and Nick was about to literally kill him. He said so himself. Then he got kicked.
Damn... I remember reading an interview with Nicholas, ages ago in some UK magazine, how they got drunk somewhere, Nicholas somehow got hurt and bleeding, and they just left him like that at the entrance of some hospital. I really can't remember the details, and they did a lot of drunken crap back in the day, but I was under the impression that they didn't quite respect him.
@@Zaragil Dani had an ego, from all the interviews to the magazines I read as a kid. Telling his fans to fuck off when wanting autographs outside of gigs. It's why Cradle suffered loyalty issues.
Rene Aensland got kicked by a 2ft tall Dani Filth....imagine the humiliation...
Nick kick ass