WHY CARL "CJ" JOHNSON IS DUMB AS HELL?
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- Just like in other games similar to GTA, most of the time we praise the protagonist we control throughout the game. It's pretty similar when it comes to Carl Johnson from GTA San Andreas. However, if we pay more attention to his actions, it doesn't necessarily turn out that he is full of pros and without cons. CJ tends to make stupid mistakes and this video will cover these situations. Enjoy!
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Ryder (high): Let's rob the army
CJ (sober): A'ight.
Ryder is smarter than the rest of GSF.
He plan robbery on a vet and wait outside so if CJ mess up he's gone, he raid the depot that is only lightly guarded, he hijacked a robbery of a train by another gang. All of his mission is very opportunist and economic, he improved GSFs without making too much fuss againts other gang or the police. And i'm sure dude is high all the time😂
Now who is high, eh?
@@satriadicky3732 It's kind of treacherous to just flee the scene when CJ is caught.
@@Loterrach He gave CJ one chance, one very simple mission, and he regret that decision.
You're not cut out for GFS.
@@satriadicky3732 Still doesn't excuse the treacherous behavior just because he failed a mission. Leaving your childhood friend behind just like that isn't something that should be justified during a robbery.
Ryder is the type of guy who would leave a ship as soon as he sees one problem with it and won't try to fix it.
cj is the exact definition of " people pleasing person". he literally gives his self respect away and lets other people(mostly his family) to use him like a door mat. and i also think that is the reason we like him too. we like his innocence and naiveness
Well I dislike that because I hate his family expect Cesar but Sweet and Kendl are terrible. Smoke betrayed him.
@@starlaixystar i agree, Sweet and Kendl were terrible...
@@Kane9000Williams What did Kendl do that's terrible?
Reminds me of franklin
@Fam3Kane Kendall never did anything to CJ all she did was trying to talk since unto him
Cj: "Momma told me to never talk to strangers"
Toreno; "Look what happened to that bit**"
Always catch me off guard
Yeah I always laughed at that part as a kid
who needs brain when your enemies have the accuracy of stormtrooper and you're almost bulletproof?
skill issue
Are you stupid? Taking over territories in GTA SA is TOUGH when EVERYONE has an AK-47. Or simply if 4 FBI guys constantly shoot you with MP5s.
In the defective edition they’re literally doom 2 level hitscans
I really think with Smoke, CJ is just in denial. You never want to believe someone you like is a bad person behind the scenes
Well yeah, but come on, Big Smoke smells fishy from the first moment we see him being in Johnson's House. There are multiple hints at Big Smoke being the traitor and yet CJ doesn't even try to react appropriately. That's not an excuse.
@@gaminginvestigatorsthat’s true but Big Smoke used CJ’s emotional state against him since he had no respect from the families and especially from sweet. So having a guy who he’s known for so long and yet despite leaving los santos, smoke still gives him respect.
@@Gazpacho834because smoke needed him up until Just business. I think before that when you stop the train in wrong side of the tracks. After that mission smoke literally tries to kill Cj and or dismisses him from that point on in missions like reuniting the families.
@@gaminginvestigators CJ was suspicious but he believed on Smoke because he liked Smoke and he was his best friend.
@@buincqv67 My boi Ryder's story didn't make sense.
Everyone: "Why is CJ so dumb?"
Also CJ: *Playing the three mafia families against each other so he has less security to deal with* and *Operating a military prototype jetpack with no knowledge or training*
Also CJ: I know you're blind but you gotta see this
@@bleedee4003 bc wozzie isn't blind 😂 didn't you see him racing
@@GardG4m3r I haven't played GTA San Andreas in a while
@Zanive bruh but not the water and not the way 😒 he was even better than cj in the race who beat claude in race and didn't fall in the water and won in the video game against cj
The thing about San Andreas is that out all the GTA games it's the most Looney Tunes and over the top. CJ breaking into Area 69 by himself going through the front door is all you need to know that he's just written to be a lucky idiot on purpose.
this is bullshit, CJ is young, naive and reckless but he's smart as hell and sneaky. The writing missions in SA is stupid not CJ. He's literally perfect as a GTA protagonist, he's like Trevor minus all the creepy stuff that he does (which is awesome btw)
CJ had no choice but to pull that heist. The Mafia were sabotaging his business venture with Woozie. They couldn't be having that.
Tell Woozie he won't be having anymore problems with them
counterfeit chips
with them...counterfeit chips lmao it always did a lil pause @@EmmettXIV
@@WORLDWIDESOCAL9because the cut some dialogue thats why
CJ was just too much of an unstoppable force to really care about any dangers
No, he's just a bit of an idiot most of the time to really care about any dangers.
@sansthelegend7196 He may be an idiot, but he's not stupid. The man was just too much to handle and absolutely fearless, that naturally he just didn't come to think or care about dangers, for he was the danger's nightmare himself. The only reason he was seen panicking sometimes wasn't because of the fear to die, but that he really just doesn't has time to die now, because he still had his brother to safe.
@@Deyone_Jackson _"He may be an idiot, but he's not stupid."_
What's the difference.
@@Jo-Wilbe-Dina just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right
@@QWERTY-gp8fd That's basically the same thing.
*What's the difference.*
First, we need to define 'dumb'. In this case it's not thinking forward or questioning things.
Second: CJ had to work fast and had no time to see the big picture. I think at a certain point, he just worked blind.
Third: He decided he had nothing to lose because if it failed, he died trying. Also, he was already a busta in the eyes of Sweet, his second closest family member. Kendall was more supportive.
In short: He did not look at the long term. He did what he did because he could do it.
It just happened to work out in his benefit.
Exactly what my thoughts wanted to say to this video.
Very well said. CJ was naive but loyal; emotionally scarred but fearless.
Grove 4 Life!
"CJ go rob and kill a bunch of military guards for some "green goo"!"
"CJ: Okay!"
About the Toreno issue….. Toreno baited Carl perfectly. Carl was desperate to get Sweet out of jail. Also Toreno organised a meeting away from Los Santos and San Fierro, thus making sure Carl wouldn’t suspect his identity. Sweet was the one person Carl really wanted to make amends with, and felt as if he let him down. About the casino fiasco I agree and disagree - By robbing the casino and killing Salvatore’s men, Carl ensured that Salvatore wouldn’t come after him. The Triads were the strongest gang in Las Venturas following the heist. Caligula’s was likely never the same after the heist. The pay for the heist wasn’t high, yes but it wasn’t low either. Woozie probably paid many people off after the heist, as well as gave the Red Gecko Tong, his organisation, a large cut.
TheProfessional made a video about why Salvatore doesn't actually try to murder CJ the other day and he made the point about the Triads being likely to cause Sal major problems if that happened (he also argues that the Leones can't afford to spend resources on trying to kill CJ due to other conflicts which they seem to be involved with before Liberty City Stories begins).
@@tempestfennac9687 yes he explained that well
Yeah, definitely! Toreno is really smart and he shows that on multiple occasions. Still, CJ should have thought about the potential risk and let Cesar or Woozie know about it in case something bad happens. As far as the casino heist is concerned, you are correct. CJ made sure that Salvatore can't touch him since he is busy fighting off "wolves" in Liberty City. However - we think that it won't make him untouchable all the time. Salvatore is quite busy after 1992 and then in 1998 - it's understandable. But what about the 1998-2001 time period? Do we know any major conflicts that the Leones had there? Not really, and that's the right opportunity to start thinking about CJ once again, perhaps hiring a hitman to get the job done. What I am saying is that certainly there were moments when Salvatore could take care of CJ before his death in 2001, absolutely not after 1992 or in 1998, but later on, yup.
@@gaminginvestigators Those are good points (it hardly seems like Salvatore would have forgiven CJ either, especially considering how paranoid he was in LCS). I'll admit I think killing JD was justified considering how treacherous he was.
Who in their right mind would mess with CJ after all his done at this point in the story?
How about the fact that he hustled all over the state working for government officials, big time criminals, and legitimate businessmen trying to get his brother out of jail. By the time he got Sweet out he was a successful entrepreneur with tons of businesses interests and investments around the state both legitimate and illicit. Yet Sweet didn't take one second to be grateful for all the work CJ did to get him out or appreciate all the had built for himself. CJ was even willing to share everything with Sweet, they were set for life, yet all Sweet could think about was the old gang. So CJ decided to just accept his life as a two-bit gangster and return to petty street crime simply because his single-minded brother called him a buster.
To be fair, CJ never makes an attempt to explain the roll he played getting Sweet out of jail. All Sweet knows is that he got let out of jail and then CJ went to pick him after he called. From Sweet's perspective, CJ just skipped town as soon as the going got tough just like he did five years ago. Sure, CJ assures him over the phone that he's trying to get him out, but he never explains how, so even though he's factually wrong, the conclusions he drew from the facts he was presented with, along with his reaction to them, are understandable I think. It's also pretty clear I think that even though CJ is going back to the hood, he isn't cutting ties with his many businesses and connections outside of the city. He might be on Grove Street again, but by the end of the game he is anything but a "two-bit gangster".
Nahhhhhhhhhh y'all doing my boy CJ dirty, with that thumbnail 💀💀
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poop brain 💀💀💀💀
I love how people get offended and WOKE by the thumbnail.
That thumbnail is crazy lmaoo
@@automation7295 Bro got offended and still said, "I love how..."-
While breaking into area 69 is truly a horrible decision (my guess is Toreno dissed the charges against him in the background), robbing the casino was a reasonable decision. The other 2 maffia families were wiped out from Las Venturas (and some from Liberty City), making Leone the only family in the city. By robbing the casino Salvatore had no money to pay his workers, not to mention that it made him paranoid later on in the other gta games. When he called cj to tell him he is going to die, he couldn't really do anything, because he didn't really had any power after that. And the gang wars in liberty city were more important later on. Besides, if Salvatore even tried to harm CJ or his family, he'd have to face Woozie and Ran Fa Li too, both powerful tirad leaders. 100k for the heist is really not much regardless, as far as i know it's still the most paying mission in the game.
Good points
You can also justify that the money gained by CJ in the heist was invested in the casino or in his garage as we know CJ didnt really need any money for his own need as he can't even buy his own car in the game and only focuses on properties and guns which he had a lot later on in the game. So he probably hid it or put it in the bank or invested it.
hehe you definitely watch the professional
@@allanbejarano9075 Sure he does. He just pretty much wrote what The Professional said.
I mean, CJ benefits a lot since he is one of the shareholders of the Four Dragons Casino. It's funny because he signed the papers during the mission "Fish in a Barrel", which actually takes place before the heist is conducted. In other words, Carl was to earn a lot of money from this deal, thus he didn't need to do the casino heist. Yes, he gets 100k for this mission, but guess what, taking into account he was going to get at least 33% from the casino accounts each week or month, he would easily get this amount without doing this wild stuff at Caligula's. They got rid of the Italian mafia in Las Venturas, but the Caligula's Casino stayed as it was, it is still a competition to the Four Dragons Casino just like other ones such as The Clown's Pocket.
When it comes to the revenge that we alluded to, we didn't say that it had to be done immediately afterward. Hell, judging by the fact that the Leones are busy fighting with the Forellis and Sindaccos, CJ has to be postponed. Later on, in 1998, the Leones were still struggling with other crime families and then even more than that. Luckily, they came out of this with some scratches like losing Hepburn Heights and Chinatown. And then we have the 1998-2001 time period, do you recall one major conflicts that took place between the Leones and other gangs? Not really. And that was one of the perfect opportunities to take out CJ. Obviously, we are not saying it happened, but it is a possibility for sure.
CJ when compared to Sweet who's even dumber, he seems so smart. That doesn't mean he still isn't an idiot and a people pleaser throughout the game.
he kinda smart though and natural leader, in nine and aks he asked weather Groove Street have guns and his gang was being Mr. Mcgoo which he asked about the shoes as weapon -_- then he asked about Emmet but his brother said Emmet is not much of a help then he suggest till they get on their feet we have to use any help we can get, Sweet is not born leader maybe enforcer because he has guts but he only enjoy the moment and himself that's why Smoke has 50-50 when wants to kill him i think the idiot of CJ in dangerous mission or questionable Smoke's Mission he never questioned or figure it was a trap it because his gangster mentality even in vertibird mission there is cut dialogue that he was scared but he toughened himself because he can't go out like no b*tch
@@ardibetrayal3493 Ryder is the true leader. Bro wasn't afraid to take down national guard to add some strength to gang
@@weplo1597 yeah but when CJ asked how they gonna defeat ballas ? Shoes ? Ryder just "Maybe" beside i agree with CJ Robbed the national guard will put GSF in danger is a mirracle they never got arrested by the military.
@@ardibetrayal3493 I said this as a joke but Ryder was definitely risky and cocky man like robbing trains, national guard, etc It was more to add strength and it did truly help family more than Big Smoke's missions which is to help Big smoke and make grove street more enemies.
I agree biggest fool still not identify who betray him always show him self as leader never do anything always make trouble for cj
I am fairly certain, that this game will never die. Even when GTA 8 will come out, people will still talk about this game.
The heist was smart. It made him bond with Wuzi even more than before. It also demoralized Salvatore Leone, at a time when all three mobs were at war, thanks to CJ himself. CJ made the mafia turn against each other more than they ever have before, by screwing over Leone. CJ knew he had Wuzi, Ran Fa Li, Cesar and Grove Street to protect him from any mob, and the heist was his most profitable mission in the whole game. From jacking cars with no friends or family to support him for Salvatore's son, to being a multi-millionaire with friends in high places allowed him the freedom to do whatever he wants. The heist made him untouchable. Besides, Salvatore wouldn't want anyone to know that CJ did him dirty like that, very embarassing
The heist was a one-time big injection of cash that apparently CJ already had a lot. It was a good thing when it comes to leveling up his friendship with Woozie, but was it really worth it? The Caligula's Casino has not suffered for too long and was still operating in Las Venturas as if nothing happened. You have a point that Liberty City crime families escaped from Las Venturas, leaving the Triads as the only criminal organization in town, but at what cost? And yeah, the heist and the fact that the Leones were at war with the Forellis and the Sindaccos made CJ untouchable, but not forever. During the 1998-2001 time period, there were no major conflicts between the Leones and any gang in Liberty City, at least to our knowledge. Technically speaking, this time range was the perfect opportunity to take revenge on CJ who probably forgot about the danger. Hiring a hitman wouldn't be a problem and CJ wouldn't expect that. Of course, there is no evidence of CJ being killed on behalf of Salvatore, but we can't rule this out when we know he had a chance to achieve this goal.
@@gaminginvestigatorswoozie and ran fa li will protect him not sure if ran fa li would 100% protect him but a very high chance also woozie would 100% protect him aka cj so hiring a hitman is not gonna do anything in the game missions cj can survive 1-2 rockets so a hitman with a sniper or any other weapon cannot kill him if its not a sniper or long range weapon cj would have already shot and killed the hitman because he always carry guns a sniper or any long range weapon cannot kill cj so a hitman is useless
@claypots2334 grove street is taken over and rulled by ballas but in gta v which is later than 2001 we can see brands of cj also in gta 4 we see a business man in a billboard that looks like cj
@@seanraizenalberto7202Yep. It'll be hard to kill CJ when he has the Triads in and out of the US, Grove Street Families, Varrio los Aztecas, and more importantly a government agent with access to military technology and weapons.
Cj had torreno who had a lot of connections to dangerous people
It makes for a nice character how he always accepts this stupid ideas like breaking into the freaking army and stealing top secret projects without even knowing what they are. There is something so satisfying about seeing this special character that does things nobody else would and is rewarded for these jobs with a personal jetpack or other stuff nobody else has. It just feels like a special non-lazy character that does a lot of work and gets rewarded with time.
😂 Great point. There’s something endearing about his naivety and relatively innocent outlook lol
His plan to steal an armored truck is to raid a military fuel depot to steal a sky crane and then use THAT to steal an armored truck, because he was worried about something going wrong if they just hijacked one mid-transit.
@@screamingcactus1753lmao just use the first one you stole... Smh
If any gta main character was smart, they'd be in college
and that's the plot for other Rockstar game
I think Tommy Vercetti generally plays things well considering the hand he's dealt. The biggest mistakes Tommy probably made were blowing off his mob until they came knocking and ignoring Vince's complaints for too long. He should have dealt with his mob a little more proactively or at least kept better tabs on them, and either addressed Vince's complaints or cut him out of the picture earlier. Other than that, I don't think he made any major mistakes
@@screamingcactus1753vince? Who's vince in vice city?
@@VILLAINOFYOURDREAMS Oh, I meant Vance. Oops
College? Nah they are to smart and independent of thoughts to go to that adult daycare
Cj took Salvatore out of Las Venturas in the casino heist, that's why Salvatore just had relevance in Liberty city later on, the Caligula's casino was obviusly administrated by somebody else, in addition, all liberty city mafias, sindaccos, forellis, leones, were wiped out of Las Venturas by CJ (remember that sindaccos and leones made an alliance to administrate caligula's casino and cj killed all sindaccos in las venturas while leones were broke), making the triads the only and most powerful organization in the city.
I mean, CJ benefits a lot since he is one of the shareholders of the Four Dragons Casino. It's funny because he signed the papers during the mission "Fish in a Barrel", which actually takes place before the heist is conducted. In other words, Carl was to earn a lot of money from this deal, thus he didn't need to do the casino heist. Yes, he gets 100k for this mission, but guess what, taking into account he was going to get at least 33% from the casino accounts each week or month, he would easily get this amount without doing this wild stuff at Caligula's. They got rid of the Italian mafia in Las Venturas, but the Caligula's Casino stayed as it was, it is still a competition to the Four Dragons Casino just like other ones such as The Clown's Pocket.
When it comes to the revenge that we alluded to, we didn't say that it had to be done immediately afterward. Hell, judging by the fact that the Leones are busy fighting with the Forellis and Sindaccos, CJ has to be postponed. Later on, in 1998, the Leones were still struggling with other crime families and then even more than that. Luckily, they came out of this with some scratches like losing Hepburn Heights and Chinatown. And then we have the 1998-2001 time period, do you recall one major conflicts that took place between the Leones and other gangs? Not really. And that was one of the perfect opportunities to take out CJ. Obviously, we are not saying it happened, but it is a possibility for sure.
@@gaminginvestigators compared to the other gta smart protagonist he is smart
Did you forget that the sindaccos were ruining the four dragon casino so the heist really worth it
"Eddie I can't deal with this guy. He's an idiot!"
-Frank Tenpenny
I love how CJ ruined Mad Dogg life and then pretended he didnt do it to the end, and even Og Loc didn't say shit XD I mean, damn, the man wanted to end his life because what CJ did. 💀
About the casino heist Salvatore is all bark no bite because of how powerful the triads are and if Salvatore kills CJ then Woozie and Ran Fa Li would kill Salvatore instantly even if he made CJ’s death look like an accident plus he had other issues to worry about like the Sindoco Family and the Forelli Family hitting the mattresses with him after they had lost more of their men and losing their shares in the casino.
Yes, he would be even more scared after knowing that CJ raided area 69!
No way Salvatore gonna kill CJ, even his lap dog Tony Cipriani can't! CJ might be a ghetto boy at first but at the last part of the game he had become a trained hitman himself...
@@heisenbergstayouttamyterri1508 Fr though dude by the end/half of the game was a Trained skilled Killer Toni wouldn't be able to do sh*t against CJ
@@AzakiTheDemonWhoLaughs Also Tony is one of the weakest gta protagonists.
@@gandalainsley6467Yes he is, CJ would mop the floor with him
I mean, CJ benefits a lot since he is one of the shareholders of the Four Dragons Casino. It's funny because he signed the papers during the mission "Fish in a Barrel", which actually takes place before the heist is conducted. In other words, Carl was to earn a lot of money from this deal, thus he didn't need to do the casino heist. Yes, he gets 100k for this mission, but guess what, taking into account he was going to get at least 33% from the casino accounts each week or month, he would easily get this amount without doing this wild stuff at Caligula's. They got rid of the Italian mafia in Las Venturas, but the Caligula's Casino stayed as it was, it is still a competition to the Four Dragons Casino just like other ones such as The Clown's Pocket.
When it comes to the revenge that we alluded to, we didn't say that it had to be done immediately afterward. Hell, judging by the fact that the Leones are busy fighting with the Forellis and Sindaccos, CJ has to be postponed. Later on, in 1998, the Leones were still struggling with other crime families and then even more than that. Luckily, they came out of this with some scratches like losing Hepburn Heights and Chinatown. And then we have the 1998-2001 time period, do you recall one major conflicts that took place between the Leones and other gangs? Not really. And that was one of the perfect opportunities to take out CJ. Obviously, we are not saying it happened, but it is a possibility for sure.
Imagine if Carl had the intelligence and stoicism as Tommy Vercetti. San Andreas would be very different.
And very boring. Yet another gigachad scarface copycat, how exciting.
@@cicadaknight3048CJ is the most relatable protagonist, because of his innocence and naiveness. We were all at once like him in our lives.
The others just felt like emotionless robotic killing machines with no personalities.
@@Steve-yn3csI don't think you played the other GTA games to say that, most GTA protagonists have as much depth as CJ, Vic Vance from Vice City Stories for example had the same premisse like CJ
@@yunjin909Okay. My bad. Let me rephrase. Between Claude, CJ and Tommy Vercetti, CJ is the most relatable. The two others just felt like emotionless killing machines with no personalities.
@@Steve-yn3cs claude is relatable? he made alot of enemies just to capture 1 person
CJ thought after yay ka boon boom that he had eradicated drugs from LS without getting hands on Smoke or Tenpenny
He set for Ranch after hearing about his brother and mother
Missions for the truth are just for consolidation of friendship
Any hiest in GTA games are bound to go wrong
But CJ not having done heist before plans and executes the hiest stupidly being influenced from 90's movies
And all GTA series since III is heavily influenced by crime movies from respective decade (80's for VC, 90's for SA and so on).
Like Set it Off
@@XYZ-eo8umliterally Scarface
10:33 As much as I like Niko, I don't think he's smarter than CJ. He never builds anything, and the choices he makes lead to disaster soley because he shoots first and asks questions second, surviving because he's a killing machine. Put Niko in CJ's situation at the end of LS he'd have gotten out of Angel Pine, straight back to LS, finding and killing Tenpenny and Big Smoke if they present themselves but his brother/cousin stays in prison forever. He wouldn't stop to think of consequences or building himself up.
When we were talking about this situation with Niko killing Vlad, we didn't necessarily mean that Niko Bellic is smarter than CJ in general. We only provided one example where Niko is smarter than him in contrast. That doesn't mean he is smarter than CJ every time. Niko Bellic didn't care about creating his own gang or empire which was less clever when you compare that to Victor Vance or Tommy Vercetti who basically took the city for themselves.
@@gaminginvestigators bro but niko working for dmitri and killing faustin was a dumb idea
we just commented❓❓i was waiting for this@@gaminginvestigators
Niko never wanted to take the city. He's made some very bad experiences in his life and just wanted his cousin Roman and his friends to be safe and to lead a peaceful life with no more killings.
first he is an Immigrant well Roman is an Immigrant too but he was like many years ago before Niko arrive so building business is tough beside he cant be a mechanic or nothing he only good is driving tanks, holding a gun, and fight hand to hand, second he is a damaged person, dont know why but after war he cant do a straight job maybe at merchant navy he could but i think he is in hiding by being merchant navy but i could be wrong, third if he could be honest he rather live with his mama in Serbia idk why but i dont think he likes capitalism very much if he choose to be with his mother live was lacking when he and Roman young but at least simple probally.
You did him dirty with the thumbnail 💀
I agree tho, CJ is pretty dumb, for some moments in the game, but when compared with Sweet, he seems so smart, lol
He is stupid but he's also smart too, like he learned how to fly various planes in such a small time so I think he's more naive instead of plain dumb.
Sweet was a turd😂 grove street went to hell under his leadership... instead of starting a new life outside the hood he gets mad at CJ...then goes in his mother's house and almost does crack😂😂😂😂 you can't make this shit up
I wouldn't call CJ dumb, I think he was reckless and had balls the size of a dump truck, but not actually stupid. I think he was just extremely loyal to a fault, and would literally do anything to protect his family.
And as others have already pointed out, CJ didn't really have much to lose. If anything, Cj was only dumb in that he had no sense of self preservation.
best explaination
I do think CJ makes some questionable decisions. Like in preparing for the heist, he thinks hijacking an armored truck mid-transit is too risky, so his alternative plan is raid a military fuel depot and fight his way through dozens of soldiers to steal a sky crane, and use THAT to steal an armored truck. That and raiding area 69 just because Truth told him to, or assassinating the hitmen sent after Salvatore by jumping from one moving plane to another instead of just waiting on the runway with a rocket launcher
Without a doubt, Woozy is probably my favorite GTA character, just saying-
Woozy, Jacob and Yusif Amir were hilariously great and very loyal
Woozys always so calm .. and then moments of violent outburts
Yeah I think he's may favorite side character in gta san andreas but I think woozy is the real smart one
Him and Caesar are my favs. I can’t stand anybody else. 😂
@@upfront2375 Yeah, but Bad Mans jamaican accent was "better" than Little Jacobs. 😄Listening to the jamaicans were my favourite cutscenes in Grand Theft Auto IV 😂
and by the way "arab money - arab money" 🤣🤣🤣
You forgot that part where even tho Toreno told him that if somethin happens to sweet, a prison guard's family would be killed but yet CJ still goes to Tenpenny and still helps him afterwards thus causin tha trial incident where he's not guilty and all hell broke loose. CJ should've left Tenpenny to Toreno and things would've died down.
That is one thing I always questioned. Once Toreno gets involved and lets CJ know that he's actively protecting both him and Sweet, any leverage Tenpenny might have on CJ is just instantly gone.
To be fair. CJ probably never finished school.
Doesn’t matter
That was ryder😂
Cj didn’t notice the missions that he did for big smoke,they weren’t beneficial to the GSF at all,giving many hints related to big smoke betrayal such as the mission called ( just business ) when he decide to go with CJ to meet Russian mafia, it was at this point when Big smoke wanted to get rid of CJ
Nah that mission you gotta remember smoke asked Carl if he wanted to turn back before they went so that mission was smokes last time being solid, cuz that was his way in the drug trafficking business with the Ballas showed in the factory mission Tenpenny sent Carl to ambush the same Russians who were with Ballas all of a sudden
"ask woozie to keep an eye on the ranch" bro💀
i think him being a doormat, people pleaser, doesn't know how to say no, is part of his character development. He came from getting told what to do to finally calling the shots when he told Sweet, who is the real dumbass, and spent the entire first hmap and final few missions ordering CJ around, that he will go after Smoke on his own.
CJ was just 24
While Niko was 42 at the times of their games respectively
So we cannot compare CJ and Niko's events
Please have some sense
CJ had left for Liberty City at 19 years of age
And also Niko is one of the stuppiest main characters from GTA.
That's what I say CJ is young that's why he is naive
Niko is around the age of 30 - 32
@@starlaixystarwhy?
@@bobbyshogun777 no niko is 42 at the time of Gta 4
I disagree with the whole premise. Working with Torino gave CJ protection from the law because he was a govt. black ops agent. You have to realize CJ is like aJames Bond skill level character. James Bond is known for attacking heavily armed bases alone and winning.
CJ worked his way up from a scrub to the leader of the most powerful gang in Los Santos.
He worked withe The Truth because Tenpenny could have Sweet killed in prison.He also robbed the casino to become an associate in the Triads working with Woozie and owning half of a casino on the Las Venturas strip.
CJ made all the right moves because he was that dude. You have to look at him as a mix of James Bond and Whitey Bulger from the hood.
i thought Sweet was the leader?
@@knockoffspiderman6861I think you right. CJ at least was slightly lower than Sweet.
Cj is naive and too fast to accept the terms but that's what took him to higher places.
CJ was not a dumb. Sweet the İgnorant made him dumb, because Sweet was not allow CJ does his wants and force him fight for his useless but in his so called "streets" and "respect" bullshit. So, being a gangster is not bring Respect, doing usable creations and success will bring Respect you wanted.
I don’t think he’s dumb he’s just naive sometime , for the toreno situation you said it yourself someone super well informed told you he can help your bro and can make his life a living hell so you would do anything to help him , as for the Salvatore problem cj is basically the underworld god of San Andreas he’s untouchable in the state and after everything Salvatore and his family are very weakened so they can’t just go on an all out war with the entirety of SA . Last but not least he’s naive yes but not dumb , he’s technically sound , intelligent and strategically adept . Heck he is Somebody who takes Down entire armies on his own
ESPECIALLY once CJ had the Triads on his side, he has an entire organized crime syndicate on his side, loyal to him. They alone would provide a great issue for the mafia.
It's not called stupidity it's called heroism and courage also CJ at this point is the leader of the gang with a purpose and connections something sweet don't got cause of his close minded mentality so CJ feels its up to him to show them there is a life outside other then gangs
Ah yes, the heroic murder of hundreds. Shits retarded.
@@AnAdorableWombat1nah he's not stupid otherwise he wouldn't have been able to pull off the casino heist.
CJ isn't really dumb he's just a man with pure initiative
I don't think CJ is dumb as hell. I think the one scene that says a lot about CJ's behavior is with OG loc before the Madd Dogg rhyme book. We see CJ going "what the hell..." And quickly going "okay, okay, whatever."
So he's a bit too much of a yes man to say no.
I guess we can agree that CJ can be pretty dumb at times, but at the same time he's very very lucky.
CJ had no choice but to show up given what Mike Toreno threatened about Sweet.
The thing is how he showed up. Not even a slight backup, a simple sniper could had him
The thing is how he showed up. Not even a slight backup, a simple sniper could had him
He's a bit stupid sometimes but other times he seems very smart
He is definitely better than Niko or Michael.
@@starlaixystar I agree with you
@@starlaixystari respect any gta characters
@@starlaixystarNiko is smart & figured out when he would be betrayed & went prepared at all times fyi
@@srikanthsv79 Niko was stupid enough to love Kate.
I must disagree with you on the part of the heist. Although the casino is still there, he benefits greatly by wiping out his competitors who were giving them grief, remember? He greatly weakened his competition and got rid of a host of future problems. Let’s also remember that Salvatore lost a lot of money and had bigger enemies to worry about than CJ. Yes, revenge he wanted but why start another war with the triads at his vulnerable state with bigger enemies at his doorstep?
I mean, CJ benefits a lot since he is one of the shareholders of the Four Dragons Casino. It's funny because he signed the papers during the mission "Fish in a Barrel", which actually takes place before the heist is conducted. In other words, Carl was to earn a lot of money from this deal, thus he didn't need to do the casino heist. Yes, he gets 100k for this mission, but guess what, taking into account he was going to get at least 33% from the casino accounts each week or month, he would easily get this amount without doing this wild stuff at Caligula's. They got rid of the Italian mafia in Las Venturas, but the Caligula's Casino stayed as it was, it is still a competition to the Four Dragons Casino just like other ones such as The Clown's Pocket.
When it comes to the revenge that we alluded to, we didn't say that it had to be done immediately afterward. Hell, judging by the fact that the Leones are busy fighting with the Forellis and Sindaccos, CJ has to be postponed. Later on, in 1998, the Leones were still struggling with other crime families and then even more than that. Luckily, they came out of this with some scratches like losing Hepburn Heights and Chinatown. And then we have the 1998-2001 time period, do you recall one major conflicts that took place between the Leones and other gangs? Not really. And that was one of the perfect opportunities to take out CJ. Obviously, we are not saying it happened, but it is a possibility for sure.
No shit, CJ is a ghetto gangbanger. These people don't exactly flaunt their Ivy League diplomas but he is certainly not a moron. For a gangbanger he's actually pretty intelligent.
Well someone already explained why Salvatore wouldn't be able to go after CJ cause he weakened them with the casino heist and they're fighting against the Sindaccos and Sicilian mob. Plus CJ is protected by the Triads since he's a good friend to Woozie and plus any hitmen sent to kill CJ would be instantly spotted by the Grove Street families and shot on sight cause seeing some Italian mobsters all dressed up in fancy suits would instantly attract attention and the families would be on them in seconds if they even draw a gun since they stand out like sore thumbs
I am guessing you refer to The Professional here. When it is true that Salvatore might have trouble getting CJ, we have to take into account that he had 9 years to do so. Sal is being killed in 2001 and there's a huge gap over here. Let's take a look at the years - he can't do that after 1992 because of the bigger conflict with the Forellis and Sindaccos. He also can't do that in 1998 because of all the problems the Leones had with other gangs. They lost influence and territory, but at the end of the game, they had the mayor in their pocket and flushed out the Forelis, the Sindaccos, and the Sicilian Mafia. Any major conflicts from the end of 1998 until 2001? Not really. Throughout 9 years it was hard to kill CJ, but there were occasions to do so. That's why we think that Salvatore actually could hire some sort of hitman to kill him.
Don't say Carl dumb please 😢😢😢
He is
@@drtenma8 😢😥😓
He is stupid sometimes, but he's also very smart in other aspects so it ain't all bad I guess
To be fair if you think about it,in all the GTA’s all we do is blindly run “errands” for people.🤷🏾♂️😂😂
Tommy, Niko actually run errands that benefit them & don't deviate from that
I never realized Mike Toreno called CJ's mom a B*TCH! LOL like bro ... he killed a construction crew for disrespecting Kendl so ...
Yeah, that's actually a really brave insult from him. CJ would basically kill Toreno if he didn't know it was him there.
Cj and max Payne are my people
I could see Max getting on with CJ, kinda like Passos.
@@kazumahazeuzumaki yeah but I can see cj getting pissed off at max
CJ casually taking on the american army and seeing it as a chore is hilarious.
happy to hear the voice behind Fortifun Gaming is back!
I remember back playing as a kid thinking, "How can such a dangerous person be such a pushover?"
Folks just called cj a shithead on that thumbnail
Fr tho
Yo this is MC Shithead!
Truth calls him a moron in the first call.
When niko got called by dimitri before he got betrayed by dimitri, he kept little jacob on stand by for his safety. When cj got called by a stranger, he stole the nearest primo and rushed to the ranch
“Ask woozie to keep an eye on the ranch” ummmmm. I have a feeling that wouldn’t be too helpful
CJ a Legend ❤❤❤❤
If only female characters in games were that good like CJ.
If you think about it. The caligulas heist was actually a good thing cj saved Ken,Paul and Maccer. Plus Salvatore would never go after Carl because Leone broke the omerta and trusted an outsider. So Cj wasn't fully dumb in the caligulas heist
Niko = 30+ yr old war veteran
Cj = 24 year old from the hood
Good comparison bro 👍
Lol
CJ is the most likable GTA character IMO.
He has some competition, but tellingly most of that competition is also from San Andreas.
i always find it so daft that in the cut scenes he comes across as a good guy, but in the gameplay he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of people
You encapsulated pretty well, why CJ is my least favourite protagonist in the series.
Yes, he is a good guy and I grant him that. But can also be really stupid, like this video demonstrated.
Another thing I dislike about CJ as a character, is that he is by far the weakest protagonist in the series.
He is constantly at the mercy of other people, who humilitate and overpower him constantly in cutscenes.
And a lot of his weakest moments, he only survives through dumb luck. With High Noon being the most blatant example of that.
I like a more moral protagonist, but I also like a protagonist who isn't a complete wuss.
So characters like Victor Vance, Niko Bellic or Luis Lopez fit that "moral character" bill much better for me personally.
That's really it. CJ like any other protagonist of the series can make stupid mistakes and even though there are people who love him without limits, it's really important to also acknowledge his downsides. CJ indeed seems to rely on other people quite frequently, but he really should have drawn some conclusions and taken a look around himself.
Cj is far from a CJ is far from being a "good guy". He is the second most evil character of the 3d era (after Toni Cipriani).
Not to forget he thought stealing an armoured van would put his crew in danger so instead decides to break into a military base alone, steal a helicopter and use to steal the van 💀
Idk I feel like you’re reaching … he was smart enough to not get in to deep with Catalina cause you know what would’ve happened if he did lol.
I like to think that CJs invasion of area 69 was so embarrassing that the military wanted to forget it ever happened. Either that or all higher ups were replaced and evidence as to who committed the attack was lost while replacing the prior command
Salvatore Leone would have been much busier dealing with the Sindacco and Forelli families (also because of CJ). Both of them would have wanted his head much more than they wanted CJ's. Besides, him and his little mobsters were nothing compared to Toreno, or the entire U.S. military.
Now I remember why I don't watch normal videos anymore, so much of my time is wasted. I better stick to CZcams shorts
I think the Caligula's Heist wasn't really about the money, it was about kicking the mafia out of Venturas. After the heist, I think Caligula's wasn't runned by the Mafia no more.
Bros taking a videogame waay tooo serious lol
not really
Nah, people analyze fictional characters all the time, that's pretty normal
2:38 what straightaway and without any thought? He went to the ranch after waiting 1 week and getting armed to the top.
Do you mean he did that behind the scenes?
He planned a whole casino heist in a storage room with janitors and casino employees walking right in🤦🏽♀️ He has zero sense of
The main advantages of the casino heist in san andreas was that with jt being successful the casino may have remained but its reputation was bought down meaning that it was less "safe and secure" which increased its insurance price
If I remember right... I was able to beat the Truth's later missions way easier than early ones like Wrong Side of the Tracks... but these days that definitive edition has nerfed how hard WSotT is.
Awesome video
Ya'll are thinking too much on a game that didn't followed the tendecy of today's games that make their main characters more emotionally complex
maybe cause he was the youngest among other gta protagonists
Franklin and Luis Lopez are about the same age as CJ
2:06 cj got ruthlessly roasted
This man really said that WUZI, of all people, should sit back with a sniper to keep an EYE on the ranch. Then called CJ stupid for not thinking of that
to be fair, who would you expect better judgement and strategizing from? a ghetto dude in his mid twenties or a 30 year old war veteran?
About the Toreno call: you can notice that Tempenny and Smoke's guys didn't appear even once during Loco missions. The only time you meet Ryder is when you kill him. I'd say it's because they just didn't know CJ was even involved, because why would T-Bone, Jizzy and especially Toreno let them know who they're working with, especially that Jizzy and T-Bone shouldn't even know that CJ and Ryder are connected. With Loco eliminated I'd argue there was no threat from their side. If it was Tempenny, he would have no reason to hide this way and he wasn't when we consider missions like 555 We Tip and Misappropriation.
In defense to CJ, I think he was just socially inexperienced and was mentally smart. Story wise , he was a anti-hero. He just acts somewhat selfish like when he let his brother Bryan died and since he is 24 and has never been with gang members or fought them besides the only crime was stealing cars. He was one of the youngest protagonists close to Franklin, Huang Lee, and Luis Lopez in terms of age. But when he is out of Los Santos, he starts to become a bit more experienced. He knows how to defend himself. And after experiencing with dating Catalina, he rejects her because he knew she was bad news which Claude was naive to trust her. Claude was three years younger than CJ and just went along with it, but it looked like Claude was able to deal with whatever happens because over time he became more stoic. CJ can be a bit clumsy because he had to learn upgrade himself and his family. He had the emotional intelligence compared to Tommy Vercetti who was always angry and at the very end, he was called naive for trusting Lance about being his running man. But Tommy had street smarts and knew how to get things done. But CJ can handle himself even when not looking at his surroundings, which was what he had to learn to be more aware. But he learned how to take over heists which he succeeded, businesses, and knew how to manipulation and deceived Millie to have him organize the Caligula raid. CJ had sympathy towards Pulaski and Big Smoke. CJ would tell Pulaski that Tenpenny is just using him but than he learned that Pulaski just chose to obey and decided to kill him after insulting his sister, Kendyl. Officer Hernandez tried to help CJ as he knew that Pulaski was gonna kill Carl. With Big Smoke, he told CJ he wanted money, power, and respect and did whatever he could to take it even if it meant betraying the grove. He finally feels regret about it and didn’t have a choice about his mom’s death or betrayal. Tenpenny was good at manipulating everyone which is probably how CJ developed manipulation skills towards Millie. But when CJ upgrades his skills compared to the other characters, the player uses those to those advantages and improved his charisma which made him less selfish, naive, and clumsy. Also CJ learned that sometimes people who were on his side may have wanted Money, power, and respect, but consequences come when the same people betray him for the same goal. The reason why CJ is loved is because he was basically the blueprint of what Arthur Morgan, and Niko Bellic was at the time in terms of popularity. Niko may not have to upgrade skills like CJ, but he was wise, guileful, remorseful, and mature. If Niko met CJ, the former would have thought that CJ was so manipulative that CJ wouldn’t mind killing whoever tried to hurt him and his family. But CJ had empathy, and guilt about his actions compared to Claude and Tommy, and after CJ, other protagonists started having attributes like CJ which was morality. Arthur had a lot of morality issues which is what other games tried to help portray some of the protagonists to make the gameplay and story match. And basically an enhanced version of what CJ was but in the past.
I like what you said. Not sure who he is when you're talking about Pulaski. Also in English we use an before a vowel sound since English hates hiatuses. We never learn how old CJ or Claude are. How do you know their age?
I like what you said. Not sure who he is when you're talking about Pulaski. Also in English we use an before a vowel sound since English hates hiatuses. We never learn how old CJ or Claude are. How do you know their age?
@@garrysmith1029sorry about the Pulaski part. I guess I forgot to mention Tenpenny using Pulaski. And about the age, I was looking at the wiki. They may not be accurate ages, but Claude looked a bit younger than CJ in San Andreas. And i editied some of the corrections.
Honestly Niko bellic is a blueprint for John Marston as well. Both are sarcastic, sort of emotionally detached from everyone except family and friends, also don't mind dying at the end.
1:53 I just realized the caller sounds like the snatcher from a hat in time. Well due to voice being modulated but I cant unhear it now. 😂
I'm sure he had Toreno's help dealing with Leone later. Unless Leone already dealt with CJ later on.
😂 2:00 Damn! My Man got destroyed.
Topic Idea: Why Tommy is Intelligent protangnist?
Or
Why Claude is most determined protagonist ever ?😊
@gaminginvestigators please send me links for all gta & bully game high resolution hd texture that you're using in your game videos
What is the name of the song at 4:00
cj learned how to fly hydra and left it on tierra robada bought airfield
but he never took it for air support on any mission
how did you get the background music from the game itself ???
How do you install the gta in video? bc its has very clean graphics unlike the one i have
Ask Woozie to keep an eye on the ranch 😂😂😂
You know what we meant, lol.
I don't know why but i was mad about your video's tilte but then i started laughing at it (my sense of humour is broken)😂
Bruh man’s be playing the song from gta 4 prnography
I think we love "CJ" cuz he's the cool dude caught in sticky situations. First his moms get murdered, then he lost his little brother. Then 2 of his closes friends betrayed him. His girlfriend "Denise" is a hood rat. The pilice hates him. The "Ballers" want to murder him on sight. His older bro "Sweet" stuck in time. It took him getting out of Los Santos to realize life is great outside the city. He begins to venture in legit businesses such as the a car detailing garage, he owns a abandoned air strip. He gets into the casino game & h manage a local hot rapper career. Moves to Mulholland Bluffs in a mansion, & take down a mob boss by ribbibg his casino. Hes the under dog of rhe game. Thats why hes beloved.......
♥️♣️🖤♦️♥️♣️🖤♦️
That line to Woozie in key to her heart mission "Hey I know you're blind but you gotta see this"😂😂
CJ was trying to run away from troubles and his responsibilities, yet he was conflicting with himself about protecting his loved ones too. Thus, he could not maintain his insight. He was no criminal mastermind back then, but not an idiot or a doormat. He was stuck.
Wu Zi wasn’t capable of watching over anything, let alone Toreno’s ranch from the distance lol.
I feel like all old GTA characters were just taking orders without really thinking about it
CJ Toni Claude(mute guy) and also in Bully Jimmy was so stupid which made him easy to manipulate
Come on, there is no GTA protagonist dumber than Claude from GTA3. While Tommy is already a big boss and CJ is actively looking for his way to top. Claude just silently accepts everything he is told to do.