discord's dumbest update...
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- čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
- Discord has revolutionized the internet. Gone are the days of Discord bots. Welcome to the era of Discord apps.
Yep. There's a video about how Discord changed the name of bots to apps. However this isn't 10 minutes and 37 seconds of yap. Because it turns out there are SOME valid reasons for this change (and there is also a real reason that makes me question the mental state of Discord)
On the other hand though, there are a handful of new discord experiments that are coming out for bots. And these beta features will improve Discord bots/apps and give them more tools to make our lives a bit easier (with good formatting).
Oh and a viewer also found a bug that allows you to crash everyone's Discord...
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Discord Previews
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Discord Server
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00:00 - Change isn't always good
01:14 - Reason 1 on why this happened
02:02 - Reason 2
02:26 - Reason 3: ODST
04:19 - Great new bot features
05:23 - Subtext
05:38 - Media Gallery
06:25 - The best feature: Improved Modals
08:25 - People broke user apps already...
09:19 - And also scammed with them... - Zábava
4:54 This isn't actually the case. You could always use buttons outside of embeds, it's just that people tended to use embeds. The actual change here is inline buttons, which means you can have them in the middle of a message, instead of at the bottom.
I’m a developer but I have no clue what inline means 💀
EDIT:i read the question wrong originally 💀
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@@nm_9_ in line
hi
I never even seen a message on Discord by a bo- I mean app that has a button in the middle between messages
Keeping a tally of stuff discord is doing thats downright stupid:
- Not removing "Join Servers for You" permission
- Letting bots be named "Discord" and "Discord Support"
"Error: Application name cannot contain 'discord'"
- Not stopping fake links
This one drives me nuts. They've already stopped you from sticking sneaky things in there like invisible characters, and you can't put an http(s) url in. But literally all you have to do is take that part off and it works lmao. Everyone saw this coming
@@HarrisonMartinson a fake character also works lol
@@CutestNikkiWe need this
theres probably SOME use cases where join servers for you is actually useful...
like
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yeah im drawing a blank
Changing the bot's name to 'apps' definitely won't be confusing at all when you remember the mobile and desktop apps exist
They were always called "Apps" technically. You have to made an app on the developer portal, then you add a bot user to said app. Now that there are slash commands, you don't always need to add the bot user to your server to use the apps slash commands. Some apps don't even need a bot user to provide slash commands. If all you're doing is responding to slash commands, your app/bot doesn't even need to be in the server as a user. Also the use of "applications" when referring to giving another developer access to your API isn't uncommon. Twitch, Google, Spotify, and Microsoft all also do it. Someone authorizes your app, then your app can do stuff on their behalf
It will say "Discord for iOS [APP] to continue please enter your pass-word"
Plus in forum channel threads, the person who started the thread is called APP.
its more confusing and stupider and him talking about the reason of discord doing this change is still confusing as fuck
@@billyhatcher643 is it more confusing though? You always authorized an "application" when you added a bot anyway, and does discord really need a justifiable reason for changing what they decide to call part of their own software?
0:27 "This change is f*cking pointless" You're so real for that
guys look an app
Fr
@BTSFAN899 what is this overly lowkey uttp variant
wow, I can imagine some guy sitting in the localization office and saying, “Hey, why don’t we change “бот” to “приложение” in russian localization", and then after an hour of testing, he is like “we screwed up. change it back to "бот".
i saw screenshots of bots having "прл" tag
they used it to shorten that thing but it turned into a random set of letters
just imagine this: bot first gets renamed to "application", then it gets shortened to "apl"
@@_kitaes_ so they made up their own way of making приложение shorter, that's soo bad
@@huhbruhnoway I think discord just forget about Russian, and they save "Бот".
Я думаю, что дискорд просто забыл про русский и они оставили "бот"
I love how the CSS class name for the "APP" label is called "botText". Gotta love consistency.
lol
Take it from a developer _(not of discord; of other things)_ - changing the name of fields and variables can be a huge pain in the bot. Er, butt.
Seriously though, making a change to an internal variable (rather than displayed text) can be such a pain, since if you miss even one corresponding change elsewhere in your code that can break a lot of stuff.
@@ShermTank7272i'm pretty sure it's ccs only so you would only have to change it once in css
@@_kitaes_ and also in the html preprocessor
@@_kitaes_ Not really, if more parts of the css files (yes, files, plural) use it in other selectors, you can end messing up the app. Plus you would need to update the documentation. It's just not a "one change".
Also it's better that you don't change anything if it is not broken for no reason.
CROATIA MENTIONED!!!!!!!!!!!! WRAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
that looks the same as polish wth
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv who tf asked you bot oh no sry "application"
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv i asked + stop self advertising + who asked about u to self promote
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv i asked + ur content sucks + u suck!
Ja sam iz Hrvatske(I am from Croatia)
Changing the name of bots to apps is like changing twitter to X.
But, well at least Discord had more reason to do it.
Overall good changes for bots- apps at least.
... I'm gonna keep calling them bots.
Just like how we still call X Twitter!
@@drewo.127 Well X still has the domain name "twitter" so elon still doesn't mind people calling X, Twitter
Fr
@@user-jc9al1vurthe does though, when you type “twitter” inside of a tweet, it autocorrects to “x”
I mean I don't think Discord's gonna be making the name change a big deal, unlike Elon Musk and his fragile ego
"Elongated Muskrat" killed me 😂😂😂
Elon Muskox
E lined musket
"It's as if a kid named it, actually a kid did name it" -NTTS
Bro really roasted the richest man alive 💀💀💀💀
He isn't wrong tho. 🤣💀
At the same time he also roasted one of the top 5 biggest scammers. (1) "If you buy a Tesla, you buy an appreciating asset, not a depreciating asset". (2) Tesla Truck: "this beats RAIL, today" (5 years ago, still nothing). (3) "From LA to New York, no hands on the steering wheel." turned into "Always be ready to take over from the murderous AI that aims at ladies with strolling carts". (4) "The ease of charging up anywhere you go." turned into "get approval of municipality to place it, pay for high-power on-street plug that fails in -10°C." What a brilliant man, I must say. Truly the creme de la crêpe.
roasted the richest kid* alive
@@NoTextToSpeech Bro NTTS you are so wild for this ☠️ I hope Elon doesn't send an airstrike to your location
@@NoTextToSpeech ur age 😅😅😅
Discord running around like headless chickens trying to figure out how to run the platform. But hey, at least we got some good 'app' tools
xd
@BTSFAN899 faek
Program? App
Website? App
Game? App
Script? App
Bot? App
Daemon? App
Service? App
OS Kernel? Believe it or not, app
True, the word "app" is the worst thing that has happened to software terminology
I refuse to call anything "app" except for android apps
6:29 most commenters: ARE YOU CHALLENGING ME?
edge to speech
fr
Discord finally doing something other than changing the mobile UI: 💀
They still not gave us the member list by swipe
Both are for the worse 😔
They changed the mobile ui again today 💀
@@that1guysa1 For the better or?
thank you for pitching down the transition ping sound effect, kept freaking out it was me
thx Ntts I have been wateing for this to come out i love ur vids!
*The bots are now owned by Apple*
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@@Gamatoto2038 gamatoto can you please actually give me catseyes instead of xp
@@allanodin512 battle cats player
>complains about discord yappology
>proceeds to yapsplain
🥶
A naked man fears no pickpocket.
I remember I when I came on discord and looked at one of my bots in my server and I saw the dumbass "app" tag near its name
8:12 This isn't the fault of the user, but rather Microsoft (as far as you can get with victim blaming at least). As you mentioned the form has a warning to not submit a password, however there is no indication from Microsoft that the "single use code" is a password, simply that it can be "used with your account" which sounds a lot like a verification code.
You had me at Elongated Muskrat 😂
this gave me the exact same feeling that i get when roblox changed places into experiences.
This definitely is one of the updates of all time.
It's actually cool that Discord does use translations for those things. Other platforms would just ignore it.
Yeah very cool people sure like seeing a random acronym nobody ever uses in their lives instead of a word that has already been borrowed 100 years ago
@@Archimedes.5000 i meant in both cases. Translating both BOT and APP
'Discord just had THE Update of All Time' basically happens in every video and it never gets old 😂.
yeah so discord doesn't fix the grey screen when you start the app but they change "bot" for "apps" 😐
This is the update of all time. I can't believe how much they improved the!
Omd!! They changed !!
And don't forget about the !!
omg they also
Bruh
el0ngated muskrat XD thank you for this gift. And kisses.
I love the timestamp/chapter labeled reason 3: ODST. I love odst so much.
NTTS is a literal machine to scan every single thing in discord 💀
0:44 I acually use discord in Croatian. I know Croatian better than English. (No I am not Croatian, I am Slovenian)
4:19: Bot
4:20: PRILOJENIYE
(As a Russian speaker, I declare that this looks extremely stupid)
4:21: Bot again
You finally mentioned this.
The media gallery is actually extremely useful. I was recently developing a ticket bot that would send transcripts in JSON files but also some ticket information in an embed and the file currently displays above the embed which is quite confusing for the user.
1:03 its about time for me to become russian
Did they remove Favorite Gifs from the Mobile app??
I can't see them anymore, and if there's the tab, clicking it does nothing- On Desktop they work fine as usual, maybe a lil slow to load
Might be a glitch
Dang bro, I realized it like 10-20 days ago when I tried to create my own bot. I thought something wrong with my bot but nah, it's just discord decide to change word "BOT" into "APP" which is sounds really stupid to me. However, I can understand discord that he force to change it to not anger his community and this is, a pretty nice move. Also I will be super happy if my bot can send message *after* the image, this feature would be cool. Thanks discord and NTTS for giving us information and creating tools for our comfort
The Apps thing makes sense on a functionality standpoint. I think what they are trying to do is transition away from the schema of what a bot was (basically automated chat manager), making it instead like an add-on for slack or twitch. I wouldn't be surprised if in the future they added app hosting services, and customizable dashboard tabs for each of the apps.
**They are moving to a SaaS schema**
I personally would love to see a server stats app with google analytics level functionality, or a moderator dashboard with an easy to access to the ban words list, messages needing review, or possibly an event manager with functionalities like EventBrite
PS: This is an optimistic outtake on the situation, who knows where this is going.
These new features are actually so huge, I will surely use them when they get added to programming library im using
Finally, I know the reason why my discord keeps crashing last week.
You think bots on X are bad? Try playing CS2 lmao
Try play tf2
Try to play valorant ..@@King_Zanux
That bot in the last video (These 6 Discord Scams are EVERYWHERE!) that managed to call itself Discord and was labelled BOT was labelled as APP by the time you recorded that video. Surely, it can't possibly make the distinction between Discord itself and user-created things more confusing?
0:39 that wow is so cute
The Polish Translation of all of this 💀
There's a funny yet stupid thing with shortening russian word "ПРИЛОЖЕНИЕ" (application). Firstly, I guess they wanted to shorten it like everything else.
So what they did? "ПРЛ".
Three letters like APP? Yes.
Actually means something? No. It's just a random nonsense of lettters. I could never realize that "ПРЛ" is short "ПРИЛОЖЕНИЕ"! Not because I'm stupid, but cuz it doesn't make any sense.
Yeah, that's it...
This is outright silly. The prior tag "BOT" is short and simple, yet "APP" ._.
Why not "ПРИЛ"
@@PloVnt because it doesn't make sense too and it's 4 letters
@@vladik4il it does you stinky
he making out the slums with this one 🔥
Only a week late! On time as always!
I don't think discord cares much about proper localization. I once submitted a report about translation mistake in Nitro theme name and it took them 6 MONTHS to respond. Quality of translation worsened significantly once Discord moved from community translation to some small group which you can't contact with other than through the white page of doom and gloom. Some strings take literally years to be corrected.
It seems translators don't use the product they translate, because most of mistakes I saw can be easily spotted if you use Discord regularly, which is typical for community, but it seems the context given to translators is too narrow to make the changes consistent with each other.
Discord still uses "kbps" in Swedish despite this not being how it's formatted in Swedish. "Account Standing" is misunderstood as "account standing up". Still several places in Discord using "Apr 9, 2024" in all locales even though only one locale is using that format and the rest is either "9 April 2024" or "2024 April 9".
@@Liggliluff Also when they revamped client icons they changed threads' icon from something resembling forum threads, to threads as in sewing, but at the same time they translated it as "Branches" in Ukrainian localization. The only other option where it would sound somewhat natural would be to translate as lit. "Current"/"Stream". If dogfooding was a norm in the localization team, I think this would've been communicated internally way back when this changes occured.
2:20 Alright hear me out.. *Bot Directory*
There are also applications (not previously called bots) in the app directory.
As a PluralKit user, I’m just happy that my posts (reskinned via script) aren’t going to be confused with posts from a chatbot when people unfamiliar with the tool see them.
I’m still calling them bots.
5:27 bro should have grouped the tabs we shouldn’t have seen into a group or in another window of your browser like come on how you could mess up this bad
Edit: just realised that it’s part of the video
are you awake right now?
Is you awake?
Good, I’m not late
4:12 What a banger comparison!
how old is this recording 😭 didn't this happen like 3-4 months ago (the bots tag switching to apps tag)
Ooh, whisperspace. Tumblr has long been the only platform that had decent whisperspace (talking in the tags). This still isn't as good as that, but it's better than most other platforms I can think of.
You are very worrying.
So it's because the assumed knowledge level of the userbase has dropped.
People don't understand what a bot is anymore, but at least you got that therapy session out of the way.
did u make a video on free nitro with epic games again yet
i can listen to ntts talking for hours
7:07 okay sussy baka
Among us sussy fortnite balls
Discord: worse? You haven't checked our full power to ruin our own app
app? like discord bots?
Was about to say dat
😶
I do love the new media changes, it'll make forums and other things, so much easier! no more users posting 8 different messages, just to show off their latest build or to send screen shots of bugs.
the red download attachment "button" with the two yellow arrows i saw as mcdonalds for a sec
I ate a cat
you make me want to cry. thats (in my opinion) kind of cruel, but even so, i do respect YOUR opinion.
@@AnonymousDefaultPersonI sure hope he doesn't eat another
@@The_Eggdog I already ate another
@@ChannelCustomization. Darn, well *surely* you would *never* go for a third right?
@@ChannelCustomization.i ate a cat
Under 1 hour and this video is epic
btw that beta limit of 25 members for user Apps has been updated to 200 members 3 days ago. They just have not updated the UI and documentations.
I just assumed the bots->apps change was for pluralkit or something damn.
Facts: all we need is a free nitro
there is a free nitro link on the Epic Games Store until June
everyone:"discord"
Me:"THIS CORD"
What I wanna know is, why did they think implementing swipe to reply a second time was a good idea, when the first round had so visceral a negative reception?
this has made pluralkit so much more confusing for non systems because we told everyone that they’re bots but. now they’re APPS
what
the things (sorry if that's the wrong word) that pluralkit generates aren't even bots or apps but webhooks
Ppl who just commented immediately
👇
erm what the sigma
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jvWHO ASKED+ SHUT UP UTTP ASS KID
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jvWHO ASKED+ SHUT UP UTTP ASS KID
3:09 "actually a kid did name it" 💀💀💀
oh yeah when you where talking about the crashbot, i remembered me and my friend made a sticker from a gif in a server and then whenever she sent it to me it would just crash my discord and i have no idea why, but it's only me that it does it to
we just tried it again and it no longer works
Fun fact i didnt watch the whole video yet
we have so much in common!
then watch the video
😮
Same
real
45 views? ntts fall off 😔✊
😔😔😔
Blame my physics class.
Like beggar
@UTTPOfficerJerry-xz7jv did your discord getting raided make you even more deranged? Go get a Iife your not doing anything by spamming in random youtube comments 😂
Finally a bot update, only a few years or so
DV8FromTheWorld? Is that the same guy that made JDA (Discord Bot library for Java)?
Face reveal pls
*Timestamps for the video*
Start: 0:00
End: 10:36
fastest timestamps comment
2 for 1 combo is crazy LOL
When I first saw they’re changing bot name I instantly thought of ways scammers will be able to scam people more with it. Because some people won’t know app means it’s a bot.
РОССИЯ Mentioned RAHHHHHH 0:34
The pop-up box question you called it correctly
7:40 Wait a sec DV8FromTheWorld was/is the person responsible for the Java implementation of the discord bots... sorry, *apps*
I love how they do all this instead of just making a thing where bots/apps can't use "Discord" as a name. The program's already got a thing where it changes your four digit tag if you change your username to that cause you can't have your username and four digit tag being the same thing for some reason.
"Do not wack off to me saying this"
you fool, you've just invited it!
Comparing ww1 with discord is crazy
I watch all of his videos till the end just for that final kiss. I can't sleep at night without NTTS's goodnight virtual kiss.
It has been like this for like 1-2 months for me.
Now every time you see a bot in any videogame, call it "application"
The "discord staff" member is actually developer of the java discord api library.
when he said I have teased you I busted
0:24 Ah the old bush fire danger sign.
0:40 That's actually the same in Lithuanian. Imagine chatting while Arcane says you levelled up
When sky is the limit, why are there footprints on the moon?
As a fellow croatian, the name "bot" would work more since it's just either "bot" or "robot" when translated in Croatian.
I love how they say they made modals better when discord has had the dropdown menus in modals disabled since 2022