Because we know this will be brought up, we need to talk about "controlling the narrative". There are two types of a1600 content: actual reviews and paid content from Corsair, Origin, AMD or a combination thereof. Let us be clear, framing a paid content piece as a review should never, ever be done. And yes, years and years ago, everyone in the tech industry learned that. For a paid piece to be posted, it needs approval from the sponsor and that typically leads to serious watering down of critical points or the complete elimination of ANY criticism. That, isn't a review in our world. In them, you'll hear about features but no actual testing. For example, SlipStream and various AMD-centric technologies, many of which don't work as advertised or have some serious hiccups in their implementation. Ours is an actual review or you'd see a very different content piece (a good example is the Legion 5 vs 5 PRO video posted a few weeks ago) as well as a disclaimer. So essentially I just wanted to clear up what's going on with the a1600 on today, the launch day. - Mike
Bro can you suggest me a laptop under 100000₹ for Photoshop and accounting work and gaming sometimes (weekly once Sunday's ) with battery life of 4-5 hours in normal usage
Any timeframe on when the specific reviews for the Legion5 and Legion 5 Pro are coming out by the way? Debating between that and the 5i Pro, but haven't seen any detailed reviews on the AMD versions of those laptops yet.
@@HardwareCanucks Bro can you suggest me a laptop under 100000₹ for Photoshop and accounting work and gaming sometimes (weekly once Sunday's ) with battery life of 4-5 hours in normal usage
I really have to applaud you guys for being honest and giving us a real review. As a Streamer myself I was a bit intrigued by this. Having some Elgato keys built into the laptop is kinda cool. But man that webcam is a dud. Dave2D did a side by side comparison to the Razer Blade 15 and it looked night and day better. If you’re going to be using a streaming specifically for streaming then you better have the best webcam on ANY laptop. And bad speakers? For $2700? Come on Corsair. There is zero excuses for that. And to top it all off the fact that getting all your wireless Corsair products to connect to the laptop is such a chore. They really didn’t finish baking this product. And thanks to reviews like you a lot of us won’t waste our hard earned money on them. Thank you. 🙏
Do you stream with Nvenc? Do your friends stream with Nvenc? Don’t most people stream with Nvenc? Does Corsair not know this? Why would they build an all AMD laptop for streaming?
I do use an Nvidia gpu. So yes you would be correct. Plus I use nvidia broadcast to eliminate background noise. So those are some other good reasons this laptop was not well thought out. As far as my fellow streamers. . .I don’t anyone in my social circle that uses amd gpu’s for streaming.
11:59 As somebody with the Legion 7 (AMD Advantage Edition), I can confirm that the lag Eber experienced is not on my unit. It might be a Corsair AMD driver, but I don't have that issue.
@@HardwareCanucks I'm aware, although it does have a MUX switch (albeit needing a reboot to switch) and it says it does on Lenovo Legion's website. Where did you get this information from?
@@Supcharged It does say it does on the product page; it must be a typo then because my unit certainly doesn't have it, as I do need to either go into the BIOS to change it or reboot to change it in Lenovo Vantage. Not the end of the world, but strange...
Jay doesn’t exactly do research on things before he makes videos. If he gets paid he does a video. He does sponsored monitor videos when he does no testing like Hardware unboxed would do, tells people to buy EVGA 3090 ti’s and then they drop in price by 500 dollars within weeks afterwards, heck he didn’t even know the price of this laptop when he suggested it. He makes entertaining case mod and custom water cooling, but he sucks at objective reviews.
2 years later you can pick this laptop for 51.18% off. (R7 6800HS, 1TB NVMe, 12GB RX 6800M, 16GB DDR5 4800) Absolute insane value because rtx 4060 with random combinations of storage, cpu, ram, monitor specs etc are everywhere. this one nukes everything at this price point. The only company I've seen offering the closest combination of specs for price was from ASUS, but my experience with them is their GPU and laptops are designed to fail.
I have a 2022 Legion 7 AMD Advantage edition, and most of its specs beat out the Corsair laptop handily. Yes, there's no SD card slot and the screen "only" is 165 hz, but are you really going to need above that for most games? Plus the Legion 7 is a FAR better value. I have no complains with it or envy for the Corsair laptop.
I think Corsair did themselves a real injustice by pricing this thing so high. They just don’t have that rep, So to get someone to try it is a real gamble. For the price I’d much rather have a razor blade or Alienware, you know what you’re getting those brains Foster confidence. Besides the Corsair has too many shortcomings in my mind.
What did you expect from corsair? Their entire brand is built on slapping their name on an existing product, then charging a premium for it. They're worse and more prolific than Razer when it comes to rebrands. This laptop is just a set configuration of the Origin Edition version, and Origin has been overcharging for their PCs since long before Corsair bought them. This seems to be one of the first proprietary chassis designs that Origin has ever used, and it is priced to appeal exclusively to the fanbois
@@tams805 tongfang and clevo laptops are awesome and they specifically cater to system integrators so it's only about how the SI respects the warranty.
@@HardwareCanucks Legion 7 2022 is also an AMD Advantage laptop, and I have it; it's honestly great (once you replace the built-in Wi-Fi card with an Intel AX210).
i like the way they teamed with amd cause not a lot of laptops uses amd gpu. but the strenght of amd is to be affordable which is not the case of corsair pc.
Thanks for the honest review! I too expected more from Corsair, but thankfully most of the issues seem to be software based. I hope they can resolve them, because it always good to have more competition in the gaming laptop space.
You can't have a creator-level laptop and not have a color-accurate display. They kind of priced themselves out of the game too soon. It looks to be a great laptop, but not when there's many other laptops that can offer the same for much less. It's a very niche device, albeit welcomed nonetheless. I just hope they smart up and update the drivers, correct the errors, and hopefully reduce the price by at least 500$-600$.
Jayz2cents giving this a glowing review was laughable. He might know desktops, but he doesn't know much about laptop performance and pricing. Asus had the same specs in the Strix model on sale for like $1000 less recently. This is just a barebones Tongfang that a bunch of other resellers will have eventually too, and likely for a cheaper price than Corsair.
Can't wait to see JarrodTech get his hands on this laptop for my overall thoughts on it. I like watching multiple reviewers just in case one person had a more positive or negative view on the laptop
Saw the wireless peripheral issue pop up on other reviews. Apparently you have to plug in the mouse, keyboard and anything else all at once for it to work, but Corsair only provided you with USB-A cables and the laptop only has one USB-A port. 😜
I thought being one of the Corsair sponsored CZcams channels you would just make a biased video to promote the product but the way you objectively criticized the laptop you’re getting even more respect in my behalf, kudos to HC 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Seems to me it‘s more than less an AMD driver and CPU problem. Wondering how long it takes for Corsair to build their own CPU and adress these problems! Or Intel Option with Nvidia would be nice for the next laptop lineup
I paid £1500 for the base model on Amazon probably due to a price mistake since it went back up to £1999 a few hours later, i had a few issues while downgrading to win 10 as reinstalling the drivers for the wifi adapter card turned out to be a bit of a nightmare, apart from that i am really happy so far.
Love the note about buying a product based on futute promises and updates. I've passed on so many electronics because of that and the companies always come out with a nww revision of the product shortly after
I'd wonder what people say about this now. It is able to be bought for $1400. I was just looking for something with 32GB of Ram and this is literally the only thing under 2k.
Almost a year later you can get this for around $1700 and its still a mess of driver issues. There are a TON of better options at the price point. Corsair's support has been abysmal.
I'm all for an all-AMD desktop (5 CPU + 6 GPU). But, for laptops, I've been using every AMD Advantage laptop since the Dell G15 (2020) and haven't found one worth recommending to date (even the 2022 G14). When it comes to laptops, pick your CPU of choice and go Nvidia, they are still worth the premium in my opinion.
Its funny because i just got into gaming laptops last October (and pc gaming in general) and really wanted an all amd machine, i like to go for the underdog, or maybe im just a hipster lol. Besides a few intel/amd cpu + nvidia gpu ones, ive tried a few all amd ones. Legion 5 5800/6600m, msi delta 5800/6700m, and a open box g14 6700s. And i could only somewhat recommend 1 or 2 of those. The legion was great but is stupidly overpriced since the 6600m model is harder to come by, the deltas build quality was lacking and felt cheap, and the g14 was just a mess(probably why it was open box/returned). Now 2 of those arent amds fault. Regardless all amd laptops just seem to always more issues(g14 2022, strix g15 6800m, and now this corsair one come to mind)
The problem is if you run Linux (like I do), Nvidia drivers are just plain 💩. Nouveau is useless, and the fact that they use proprietary drivers turns me away, not to mention poor Wayland support and no option for AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU this year made the choice for me...
That's a lot of extra cash over a Strix G15 Advantage or, if you have a huge backpack, an m17 Advantage, for a touchbar. Also while I understand trying to make a laptop and get as many people buying it as possible...the price is a bigger deterrent followed by the size that given the feature to halve the touchpad they might as well have followed a design similar to those Acers with the keyboard to the front with a half-width touchpad to the right, and then get you a more regular touchscreen and/or more heatsink mass and thicker fans. I mean it's not like anyone shopping for a Mac will get this they might as well go all-in marketing to gamers (who are more likely to have at least a small wireless mouse even if all they'd have on them is the USB-C PD charger (ie they're not gaming).
at this price that little screen should be a touch screen or better off not there for battery life the sd card reader should be the top spec and fix the smart switching as said
watched some videos about this laptop, and both der8auer and Hardware Canucks point out a lot of problems, dave2d video is a little bit more neutral but also points out the pricing being very expensive. This surely is not a good launch for corsair.
Please include if the SD slots are full depth or if the cards stick out, some people like to leave their cards in but like my GL65 Leopard, the cards stick out 3mm, leaving me to either remove the card, or place it in my bag on the other side.
@@michaelhoenig-hwc1082 That sucks, I wish makers would go back to full depth slots. We have devices smaller than this like the Win Max 2 with both full and micro sized SD slots that are, tho it's also designed to hold in you hands. The other option would be a micro SD adapter made for some Apple products, but those are too short.
It is price for sure. Though the more streamer aimed laptop. I mean stuff focused for that need to be very good. Looking forward to see more of these AMD advantage edition laptops in the future from other brands too. 17" more appealing as well.
Needs a good webcam, good speakers, a dedicated capture card (so you know, perhaps streamers can hook up their consoles etc.), portable screen to fit flush with that screen cover using the same panel as the internal one and calibrated to the same color accuracy, warmth etc. Maybe a few pass through usb/power ports with high power draw support so the owner can hook up some lights when traveling in a hotel room etc.
Thank you very much for stating the price first. To me, that always means the video should be an actual and trustworthy review. The one I watched yesterday from a pretty big channel was just a blatantly bad paid infomercial. But, 99.9% of his "reviews" the past few months have only been paid infomercials. So, again, thank you for providing your two cents.
The point about how the laptop isn't saving any battery cause of the drivers is something that I'm trying to get around. I've got a legion 5 Pro (2022) with the 3070. Although it's set to hybrid GPU usage, about 60% of the time, i notice the 3070's copy buffer being used when the system is idle, which keeps the card awake while on battery. Which in this case should be idle for the system to only run on integrated graphics. Would this be a case of bad AMD drivers as well?
I’m glad I got my legion 5 pro (3070). I found the 2021 model for only $1400. I put a 1tb Samsung 980 and I am set for college. I haven’t seen another laptop that I would rather have for the money.
This is the thing with Corsair: everything I bought 3 or 4 years ago is still working. Everything I've bought in the past year is broken or has limited functionality. I'm not sure what's happening over there but I hope they turn it around.
That issue with rainbow is definitely not just that laptop, ubisoft just sucks, I have seen that same exact issue with the render scaling on a 2080 and intel i7 rig, and my rig with a 3080 and ryzen 5950x, both desktops with that same issue.
Why do you always only test performance even gaming performance on some kinda of middle performance setting? The maximum TGP is only ever reached at the highest performance mode in any laptop, no exceptions.
@@cameronbosch1213 Yup exactly. Not to mention the "standard" mode on different laptop does different things. Some prioritise noise level some prioritise temps. This isn't fair.
Those "switching" problems from igpu to external is from a firmware problem NOT drivers . With a bios update from Corsair this will easily be fixed. I just don't trust Corsair cause of a bad warranty support i needed for a clients ram and the response was amateurish at best and almost 3k for that?
Looks great on paper.. and that trackpad is drool worthy, but, your review reminds me of my not great experience with their iCue software that caused me to use a different keyboard and mouse.. I don't trust the Corsair software team, and you sort of confirmed that my experience wasn't unusual. Best Buy currently has this thing for $1400 USD, and I think there's a coupon code for another hundred off. if I didn't have my previous bad experience with iCue, I'd probably take a chance on it, but yeah... lesson learned. Sad to hear AMD also has some bugs to sort through. I really wanted to love this laptop, as it would have saved me about $700. Oh well.
Funny how on the website the battery life is rated as 1.25 hours. I mean, at least they’re honest It’s a cool and radical laptop in terms of design and approach, and the software is something that can be fixed, but the price is definitely too high for the specs. I hope it doesn’t end up like the Corsair A500, because the hardware is definitely special and not as much of a failure as that cooler
The GPU tests are really low. The RX 6800M is a 140+ W GPU and is running at half of it's power. Maybe there's a way to increase the performance of the GPU with a toggle or a BIOS/vBIOS update :)
I hate corsair, but I have to point something out. Corsair doesn't have any experience in the market? They own Origin PC, and this is just a rebranded Origin laptop that you can't configure. That being said, the experience that Corsair does have in the market is overcharging for the same exact laptops that you can get from XMG and Eluktroniks
Typical Corsair. Great Hardware, rubbish software. Thats why changed my whole pref setup from full corsair to Pulsar, keychron and byerdynamic. It was never about the Hardware.
I mean I’m not in the market for a laptop, and never will be. However I think they had a good idea going with this, features are cool, price is way too high, streamdeck implementation is cool, battery life is subpar, and finally the part that always irks me is how companies for peripherals are trying to be every single item on your desk. What’s next? A corsair GPU?
ha ha. Why do you compare this 2.4 kg heater with competitors of 1.8-2 kg, and not with a legion weighing 2.5 kg? this piece of monsoon costs as 7i 12800hx+3070 ti, has the same weight. I'm not even saying 5i pro 12700h+3070ti if you fire 5i pro up to 95c like this laptop, from one it works at 105 watts and outputs 18k in cinebench23 30 minutes
those numbers of the low wattage 6800m make you really wonder what is the point of 6800s. Why not just lower wattage on the 6800m like Nvidia does for their thin and lights instead of creating a whole new chip. Low wattage 6800m handles 1440p better than the 6800s.
I can get the Asus g15 AMD advantage edition for $1000 less, sometimes is sells at bestbuy for $1299, sure it has the amd 5900hx, but it has the same graphics card, the amd 6800m. This thing is so overpriced for the specs it has.
this year Sony and corsair entered new many sectors for the first time for them and none of them feel competitive ! idk why testing like this in Recession
It's funny how the main competitor of this 16 inch 3k "streaming" monster, is a G14 that's a grand less, runs cooler, and that you can actually carry around...
That said a year later, I saw a model with an R7-6800HS coupled with a RX 6800M, for $1049. At that price, If I were in the market right now, I would have this on my Radar.
Because we know this will be brought up, we need to talk about "controlling the narrative". There are two types of a1600 content: actual reviews and paid content from Corsair, Origin, AMD or a combination thereof. Let us be clear, framing a paid content piece as a review should never, ever be done. And yes, years and years ago, everyone in the tech industry learned that. For a paid piece to be posted, it needs approval from the sponsor and that typically leads to serious watering down of critical points or the complete elimination of ANY criticism. That, isn't a review in our world. In them, you'll hear about features but no actual testing. For example, SlipStream and various AMD-centric technologies, many of which don't work as advertised or have some serious hiccups in their implementation. Ours is an actual review or you'd see a very different content piece (a good example is the Legion 5 vs 5 PRO video posted a few weeks ago) as well as a disclaimer. So essentially I just wanted to clear up what's going on with the a1600 on today, the launch day. - Mike
Bro can you suggest me a laptop under 100000₹ for Photoshop and accounting work and gaming sometimes (weekly once Sunday's ) with battery life of 4-5 hours in normal usage
Any timeframe on when the specific reviews for the Legion5 and Legion 5 Pro are coming out by the way? Debating between that and the 5i Pro, but haven't seen any detailed reviews on the AMD versions of those laptops yet.
They aren't officially launched yet....technically. Coming soon though!
@@HardwareCanucks Bro can you suggest me a laptop under 100000₹ for Photoshop and accounting work and gaming sometimes (weekly once Sunday's ) with battery life of 4-5 hours in normal usage
Legion 5 all the way
I really have to applaud you guys for being honest and giving us a real review. As a Streamer myself I was a bit intrigued by this. Having some Elgato keys built into the laptop is kinda cool. But man that webcam is a dud. Dave2D did a side by side comparison to the Razer Blade 15 and it looked night and day better. If you’re going to be using a streaming specifically for streaming then you better have the best webcam on ANY laptop. And bad speakers? For $2700? Come on Corsair. There is zero excuses for that. And to top it all off the fact that getting all your wireless Corsair products to connect to the laptop is such a chore. They really didn’t finish baking this product. And thanks to reviews like you a lot of us won’t waste our hard earned money on them. Thank you. 🙏
Do you stream with Nvenc? Do your friends stream with Nvenc? Don’t most people stream with Nvenc? Does Corsair not know this? Why would they build an all AMD laptop for streaming?
I do use an Nvidia gpu. So yes you would be correct. Plus I use nvidia broadcast to eliminate background noise. So those are some other good reasons this laptop was not well thought out. As far as my fellow streamers. . .I don’t anyone in my social circle that uses amd gpu’s for streaming.
The worst thing has to be the lack of ports
This laptop cannot even be used productively, let alone for streaming
If you're going to stream then buy a real webcam lmao.
@@siddujhaveri it cost 40 bucks for a USB dongle. Stop making big deals out of nothing.
On paper this laptop looks great. I'm glad you were able to show us what's really going on with it.
11:59 As somebody with the Legion 7 (AMD Advantage Edition), I can confirm that the lag Eber experienced is not on my unit. It might be a Corsair AMD driver, but I don't have that issue.
The Legion 7 AAE doesn't have Smart Access Graphics (AMD's hybrid MUX). Only Smart Access Memory and SmartShift MAX.
@@HardwareCanucks I'm aware, although it does have a MUX switch (albeit needing a reboot to switch) and it says it does on Lenovo Legion's website. Where did you get this information from?
@@cameronbosch1213 If it needs a reboot to switch then it doesnt actually have smart access graphics lol
@@Supcharged It does say it does on the product page; it must be a typo then because my unit certainly doesn't have it, as I do need to either go into the BIOS to change it or reboot to change it in Lenovo Vantage. Not the end of the world, but strange...
Quite the opposing tone from Jay and his more cheerleader'y spin on this thing.
Jay doesn’t exactly do research on things before he makes videos. If he gets paid he does a video. He does sponsored monitor videos when he does no testing like Hardware unboxed would do, tells people to buy EVGA 3090 ti’s and then they drop in price by 500 dollars within weeks afterwards, heck he didn’t even know the price of this laptop when he suggested it. He makes entertaining case mod and custom water cooling, but he sucks at objective reviews.
@@Jsteeeez plus he talks a lot of nothing to extend his video length
Jay's video was sponsored by Cosair.
He loses credibility more n more for me
@@coolmemesbudd 2 years ago he was one of the best, now he's kind of a sellout
This laptop has some unique features, but way overpriced for this performance, although good start from Corsair. hope to see new models soon.
2 years later you can pick this laptop for 51.18% off. (R7 6800HS, 1TB NVMe, 12GB RX 6800M, 16GB DDR5 4800)
Absolute insane value because rtx 4060 with random combinations of storage, cpu, ram, monitor specs etc are everywhere. this one nukes everything at this price point.
The only company I've seen offering the closest combination of specs for price was from ASUS, but my experience with them is their GPU and laptops are designed to fail.
I have a 2022 Legion 7 AMD Advantage edition, and most of its specs beat out the Corsair laptop handily. Yes, there's no SD card slot and the screen "only" is 165 hz, but are you really going to need above that for most games? Plus the Legion 7 is a FAR better value. I have no complains with it or envy for the Corsair laptop.
Do you know if there's a review out there for it?
yea not to mention high refresh means bad battery life
@@liesandy291 Every single laptop with high refresh rate will revert to 60hz while unplugged either automatically or via a toggle.
bro.. How is that laptop?
@@dalefrancis9414 Amazing.
That bios might be the prettiest one I’ve even seen! Looks super clean, and modern.
I think Corsair did themselves a real injustice by pricing this thing so high. They just don’t have that rep, So to get someone to try it is a real gamble. For the price I’d much rather have a razor blade or Alienware, you know what you’re getting those brains Foster confidence. Besides the Corsair has too many shortcomings in my mind.
Alienware/Dell has QC issues, try Lenovo Legion.
What did you expect from corsair? Their entire brand is built on slapping their name on an existing product, then charging a premium for it. They're worse and more prolific than Razer when it comes to rebrands. This laptop is just a set configuration of the Origin Edition version, and Origin has been overcharging for their PCs since long before Corsair bought them. This seems to be one of the first proprietary chassis designs that Origin has ever used, and it is priced to appeal exclusively to the fanbois
@@technewb8241 They get others to make devices for them, but they are nowhere near as bad as the rebrands of stuff like Tongfang.
@@tams805 and yet, Origin actually does rebrand Tongfang and Clevo laptops. The Evo line is a Clevo rebrand, and the Eon is a Tongfang white-label
@@tams805 tongfang and clevo laptops are awesome and they specifically cater to system integrators so it's only about how the SI respects the warranty.
I just got myself a AMD advantage - Asus G15 with 5900HX and 6800M for $999. Corsair is a bit to ambitious with the price.
you got a hell of a bargain m8
and I tought I was lucky spending 750 for a Victus 16 with 5600H/3060
I was looking at those, but I need the pcie4 ssd speeds.
The more he talks about Corsair's laptop, the more I want a Legion 5i Pro 😂
Its a great laptop.....
@@HardwareCanucks Legion 7 2022 is also an AMD Advantage laptop, and I have it; it's honestly great (once you replace the built-in Wi-Fi card with an Intel AX210).
We can get two 3070 L5P for the price of a base A1600, i love Corsair but man...
@@leeminh2401 yeah, Corsair did a great job for its first laptop until you look at the price.
i like the way they teamed with amd cause not a lot of laptops uses amd gpu. but the strenght of amd is to be affordable which is not the case of corsair pc.
Thanks for the honest review! I too expected more from Corsair, but thankfully most of the issues seem to be software based. I hope they can resolve them, because it always good to have more competition in the gaming laptop space.
You can't have a creator-level laptop and not have a color-accurate display. They kind of priced themselves out of the game too soon. It looks to be a great laptop, but not when there's many other laptops that can offer the same for much less. It's a very niche device, albeit welcomed nonetheless. I just hope they smart up and update the drivers, correct the errors, and hopefully reduce the price by at least 500$-600$.
Excellent and honest review. I like Corsair, but, yeah, some of their products need a bit more time in the oven.
Jayz2cents giving this a glowing review was laughable. He might know desktops, but he doesn't know much about laptop performance and pricing.
Asus had the same specs in the Strix model on sale for like $1000 less recently.
This is just a barebones Tongfang that a bunch of other resellers will have eventually too, and likely for a cheaper price than Corsair.
His was a paid sponsorship. No hate, make yo money
All the reviews of this Corsair laptop are sponsor, so he is getting pay to be a fanboy. Is not about his knowledge is about his wallet.
@@neoperol No. Ours isn't paid AT ALL.
Actually, the motherboard is TongFang but Corsair did indeed design the chassis and cooling from th ground up.
Also Dave2D had a more negative review than Jayz
Can't wait to see JarrodTech get his hands on this laptop for my overall thoughts on it. I like watching multiple reviewers just in case one person had a more positive or negative view on the laptop
Its always important to get multiple views on anything. Good call.
Strange, he never reviewed it.
Nice review. Sad story about smart switch. Hope AMD already working on it and will fix it asap.
Bit brutal of a title haha. Gonna enjoy watching this.
The title fits the content. No clickbait, I swear.
@@HardwareCanucks I ain't judging. Loved the video I work in tech retail and videos like these I use as information sources love it.
@@maskedkitsune9774 Thanks!
Saw the wireless peripheral issue pop up on other reviews. Apparently you have to plug in the mouse, keyboard and anything else all at once for it to work, but Corsair only provided you with USB-A cables and the laptop only has one USB-A port. 😜
The Alienware x15 r2 was listed in multiple charts here, but I have not seen a review posted from you guys. Is one coming soon?
Yes! However, this laptop dropped....and then we dedicated a solid 2 weeks to it so the Alienware edit was pushed back
@@HardwareCanucks Thank you. As always your reviews are professional and extremely high quality.
I thought being one of the Corsair sponsored CZcams channels you would just make a biased video to promote the product but the way you objectively criticized the laptop you’re getting even more respect in my behalf, kudos to HC 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks for the honest review.
Always, appreciate the support!
Seems to me it‘s more than less an AMD driver and CPU problem. Wondering how long it takes for Corsair to build their own CPU and adress these problems!
Or Intel Option with Nvidia would be nice for the next laptop lineup
I paid £1500 for the base model on Amazon probably due to a price mistake since it went back up to £1999 a few hours later, i had a few issues while downgrading to win 10 as reinstalling the drivers for the wifi adapter card turned out to be a bit of a nightmare, apart from that i am really happy so far.
Love the note about buying a product based on futute promises and updates. I've passed on so many electronics because of that and the companies always come out with a nww revision of the product shortly after
I'd wonder what people say about this now. It is able to be bought for $1400. I was just looking for something with 32GB of Ram and this is literally the only thing under 2k.
Almost a year later you can get this for around $1700 and its still a mess of driver issues. There are a TON of better options at the price point. Corsair's support has been abysmal.
I'm all for an all-AMD desktop (5 CPU + 6 GPU). But, for laptops, I've been using every AMD Advantage laptop since the Dell G15 (2020) and haven't found one worth recommending to date (even the 2022 G14). When it comes to laptops, pick your CPU of choice and go Nvidia, they are still worth the premium in my opinion.
Its funny because i just got into gaming laptops last October (and pc gaming in general) and really wanted an all amd machine, i like to go for the underdog, or maybe im just a hipster lol. Besides a few intel/amd cpu + nvidia gpu ones, ive tried a few all amd ones. Legion 5 5800/6600m, msi delta 5800/6700m, and a open box g14 6700s. And i could only somewhat recommend 1 or 2 of those. The legion was great but is stupidly overpriced since the 6600m model is harder to come by, the deltas build quality was lacking and felt cheap, and the g14 was just a mess(probably why it was open box/returned). Now 2 of those arent amds fault. Regardless all amd laptops just seem to always more issues(g14 2022, strix g15 6800m, and now this corsair one come to mind)
The problem is if you run Linux (like I do), Nvidia drivers are just plain 💩. Nouveau is useless, and the fact that they use proprietary drivers turns me away, not to mention poor Wayland support and no option for AMD CPU + Nvidia GPU this year made the choice for me...
One of the best reviews I've ever seen! Subscribing! 👍
Razer did the same and look how far they got. I still want Corsair One desktop ❤️
That's a lot of extra cash over a Strix G15 Advantage or, if you have a huge backpack, an m17 Advantage, for a touchbar.
Also while I understand trying to make a laptop and get as many people buying it as possible...the price is a bigger deterrent followed by the size that given the feature to halve the touchpad they might as well have followed a design similar to those Acers with the keyboard to the front with a half-width touchpad to the right, and then get you a more regular touchscreen and/or more heatsink mass and thicker fans. I mean it's not like anyone shopping for a Mac will get this they might as well go all-in marketing to gamers (who are more likely to have at least a small wireless mouse even if all they'd have on them is the USB-C PD charger (ie they're not gaming).
at this price that little screen should be a touch screen or better off not there for battery life the sd card reader should be the top spec and fix the smart switching as said
watched some videos about this laptop, and both der8auer and Hardware Canucks point out a lot of problems, dave2d video is a little bit more neutral but also points out the pricing being very expensive. This surely is not a good launch for corsair.
Corsair sounds like a beast but it's too expensive. Corsair needs to drop these prices for more user satisfaction
U can change the performance mode by pressing Fn+F5, or change it in icue
Nice review and an honest critical analysis.
Are the issues fixed with updates, im getting the laptop for a really good deal.
Thanks in advance.
this video got suppressed in to oblivion for me, yet other positive reviews pop all over my feed....
Please include if the SD slots are full depth or if the cards stick out, some people like to leave their cards in but like my GL65 Leopard, the cards stick out 3mm, leaving me to either remove the card, or place it in my bag on the other side.
It sticks out.
@@michaelhoenig-hwc1082 That sucks, I wish makers would go back to full depth slots. We have devices smaller than this like the Win Max 2 with both full and micro sized SD slots that are, tho it's also designed to hold in you hands.
The other option would be a micro SD adapter made for some Apple products, but those are too short.
It is price for sure. Though the more streamer aimed laptop. I mean stuff focused for that need to be very good.
Looking forward to see more of these AMD advantage edition laptops in the future from other brands too. 17" more appealing as well.
Is this any better now? It’s on sale for 900$ refurbed right now.
I think by a single update can take down all other laptops.We need more innovative laptops like this.
Nice review. I just watched JayzTwoCents on it and I like the 2 perspectives.
Seems like there's some lag between the webcam and mic?
why would someone buy laptop to a metal bending company?
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Just get the g15 advantage and get a streamdeck
Boom ez savings
Looks like a great laptop, but why would anyone prefer this over cheaper Asus G14, studiobook 16 or Acer Triton 500 SE?
This guy is a chad. He has the whole Corsair set up except for corsair scimitar rgb elite but that’s calm. True gamer 🍷 💪 🗿 👍
Maybe Corsair should stick to making power supplies instead. This is expensive ewaste, similar to their gaming peripherals
Needs a good webcam, good speakers, a dedicated capture card (so you know, perhaps streamers can hook up their consoles etc.), portable screen to fit flush with that screen cover using the same panel as the internal one and calibrated to the same color accuracy, warmth etc. Maybe a few pass through usb/power ports with high power draw support so the owner can hook up some lights when traveling in a hotel room etc.
Thank you very much for stating the price first. To me, that always means the video should be an actual and trustworthy review. The one I watched yesterday from a pretty big channel was just a blatantly bad paid infomercial. But, 99.9% of his "reviews" the past few months have only been paid infomercials. So, again, thank you for providing your two cents.
The point about how the laptop isn't saving any battery cause of the drivers is something that I'm trying to get around. I've got a legion 5 Pro (2022) with the 3070. Although it's set to hybrid GPU usage, about 60% of the time, i notice the 3070's copy buffer being used when the system is idle, which keeps the card awake while on battery. Which in this case should be idle for the system to only run on integrated graphics. Would this be a case of bad AMD drivers as well?
Do you have big hands or are you normal handed and small bodied? I only ask because of the track pad.😃
In my experience with corsair stuff, iCUE is really bad
I ended up returning this because it gets way to hot. Went with a asus strix instead.
Do you think you could do a review of the dell g15 gaming laptop
I’m glad I got my legion 5 pro (3070). I found the 2021 model for only $1400. I put a 1tb Samsung 980 and I am set for college. I haven’t seen another laptop that I would rather have for the money.
This is the thing with Corsair: everything I bought 3 or 4 years ago is still working. Everything I've bought in the past year is broken or has limited functionality. I'm not sure what's happening over there but I hope they turn it around.
My hearty welcome to new players into the game.
I mean as Dave2D says, why wouldn't I just go with a Legion 7i at this price point?!
That issue with rainbow is definitely not just that laptop, ubisoft just sucks, I have seen that same exact issue with the render scaling on a 2080 and intel i7 rig, and my rig with a 3080 and ryzen 5950x, both desktops with that same issue.
Why do you always only test performance even gaming performance on some kinda of middle performance setting? The maximum TGP is only ever reached at the highest performance mode in any laptop, no exceptions.
I agree. He should do two results, or if he only does one, then he should do it with the max TGP for the laptop.
@@cameronbosch1213 Yup exactly. Not to mention the "standard" mode on different laptop does different things. Some prioritise noise level some prioritise temps. This isn't fair.
Is it a good deal if you managed to get it under 1500$ ?
Those "switching" problems from igpu to external is from a firmware problem NOT drivers . With a bios update from Corsair this will easily be fixed. I just don't trust Corsair cause of a bad warranty support i needed for a clients ram and the response was amateurish at best and almost 3k for that?
when is the alienware x15 video coming?
Looks great on paper.. and that trackpad is drool worthy, but, your review reminds me of my not great experience with their iCue software that caused me to use a different keyboard and mouse.. I don't trust the Corsair software team, and you sort of confirmed that my experience wasn't unusual. Best Buy currently has this thing for $1400 USD, and I think there's a coupon code for another hundred off. if I didn't have my previous bad experience with iCue, I'd probably take a chance on it, but yeah... lesson learned. Sad to hear AMD also has some bugs to sort through. I really wanted to love this laptop, as it would have saved me about $700. Oh well.
Sir
Lenevo legion 5i pro and 5 pro both are out.
Please compare them!!!!!!
how is this panel a GAME CHANGER?
its a dumbed down version of the 16" 16:10 panel others brands are using, its less bright and has worse colors
This design reminds me of my old acer triton 700 while having a modern screen (small bezels and 16:10 screen).
I like asus' dual screen implementation over this one from corsair.
Funny how on the website the battery life is rated as 1.25 hours. I mean, at least they’re honest
It’s a cool and radical laptop in terms of design and approach, and the software is something that can be fixed, but the price is definitely too high for the specs. I hope it doesn’t end up like the Corsair A500, because the hardware is definitely special and not as much of a failure as that cooler
the design is so sleek
The GPU tests are really low. The RX 6800M is a 140+ W GPU and is running at half of it's power. Maybe there's a way to increase the performance of the GPU with a toggle or a BIOS/vBIOS update :)
I can buy it now for 1000$ is it worth it?
Who else remembers back when QHD+ meant 3200x1800?
XPS 15 2014 remembers!
I just hope that Corsair will use Alder Lake and RTX for the Voyager.
Corsair could have made a good ultrabook lol.
nice watch.
I hate corsair, but I have to point something out. Corsair doesn't have any experience in the market? They own Origin PC, and this is just a rebranded Origin laptop that you can't configure. That being said, the experience that Corsair does have in the market is overcharging for the same exact laptops that you can get from XMG and Eluktroniks
Typical Corsair. Great Hardware, rubbish software. Thats why changed my whole pref setup from full corsair to Pulsar, keychron and byerdynamic. It was never about the Hardware.
Its high time we put an end to 16:9 aspect ratio. Every lapyop should be 16:10 at least
I mean I’m not in the market for a laptop, and never will be. However I think they had a good idea going with this, features are cool, price is way too high, streamdeck implementation is cool, battery life is subpar, and finally the part that always irks me is how companies for peripherals are trying to be every single item on your desk. What’s next? A corsair GPU?
It's the first of a brand new product series, they could have named it anything, yet they named it "a1600"?
ha ha. Why do you compare this 2.4 kg heater with competitors of 1.8-2 kg, and not with a legion weighing 2.5 kg?
this piece of monsoon costs as 7i 12800hx+3070 ti, has the same weight.
I'm not even saying 5i pro 12700h+3070ti
if you fire 5i pro up to 95c like this laptop, from one it works at 105 watts and outputs 18k in cinebench23 30 minutes
Honestly that it can’t keep up with the G14 in some tests is inexcusable
Why is Corsair shipping out laptops that haven't been thoroughly tested? This is 2022!
The laptop is nice! Thanks Corsair!
those numbers of the low wattage 6800m make you really wonder what is the point of 6800s. Why not just lower wattage on the 6800m like Nvidia does for their thin and lights instead of creating a whole new chip. Low wattage 6800m handles 1440p better than the 6800s.
Help!!
Corsair voyager a1600, QHD, ryzen 7 - 6800HS with 6800M, is this better option or legion slim 7 rtx 4060?
go with legion as they won't have any drive issues with these AMD advantages devices
I can get the Asus g15 AMD advantage edition for $1000 less, sometimes is sells at bestbuy for $1299, sure it has the amd 5900hx, but it has the same graphics card, the amd 6800m. This thing is so overpriced for the specs it has.
this year Sony and corsair entered new many sectors for the first time for them
and none of them feel competitive ! idk why testing like this in Recession
I clicked the moment I saw the thumbnail has a laptop with a built in nexus
Personally, I've never had an amd laptop without driver and software bugs :(
Kinda dig how the whole thing looks like a stick of dominator ram lol
If I could sum up this laptop in one word, it would be: Overpriced.
Agreed
to Whomever priced this i want to send the Steven he "i will send you to Jesus" gif
It's funny how the main competitor of this 16 inch 3k "streaming" monster, is a G14 that's a grand less, runs cooler, and that you can actually carry around...
I avoid first generation of anything, let alone a maiden product line. Corsair should have done this in a budget level tier.
That said a year later, I saw a model with an R7-6800HS coupled with a RX 6800M, for $1049. At that price, If I were in the market right now, I would have this on my Radar.
i bought it as mobile workstation for work and the first thing i will do when i have it, i will wipe windows and install linux.
The drawbacks are not worth the gimmick of having a few customizable buttons. Get something else, cheaper and more performance. Like a legion 5.