My 2022 Toyota Tundra engine failure, CONFIRMED 2023 and 2024 Tundra affected too!
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- čas přidán 6. 02. 2024
- 2022 Tundra 3rd gen engine failure at 16k miles. The seized engine was replaced under warranty, and here is the story / update on how it went. I have since sold the truck back to Toyota, and stand with my recommendation that people avoid v6 half ton and larger trucks.
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Scotty Kilmer warned everyone. Don't by turbo unless you are willing to pay
My man
But everyone says Toyota knows turbos so they are just as reliable as the V8's
Spun bearing. Not necessarily related to the turbo.
Yes it is related. All of the internal parts are under higher stresses than a naturally aspirated engine.
@@Jeff-sp7bgI said “Not necessarily”. You have no idea if it was or not. “Added stresses” is a catch all phrase used by people who don’t know anything about engines. All engines are subject to “added stress” if not properly engineered. Diesels have been using turbos for years and are sone of the longest lasting engines made. My neighbor’s new Tundra was lemon lawed back due to a hybrid electrical issue. Had nothing to do with the turbos.
$30k in repairs and they couldnt give you a brand new engine? I think there is a reason they didnt want to talk to you. Something ain't right.
I think of a lot of it comes down to supply of parts. I know for a fact that they could not get cylinder heads. I think they were getting so much backlash from customers they were just doing what they could and were too afraid to talk to people about it. That's definitely not the right answer, I own a mechanic and custom shop and I wouldn't do that to people. But when you have a truck that no one can repair except the dealership you're kind of at their Mercy I suppose. I ended up having Toyota by the truck back
I bet you they didn't have any engines available had to fix that one
If they are still building new tundras, then they have new (long block) engines available.
Toyota doesn't ship complete engines! Just the short blocks and parts that have been damaged. We've done 6 tundras in the past year.
It would have been cheaper to replace the engine.
The only reason I can th8nk as to why they didn't was because there were no extra blocks available.
Sell it while you still can.
I wouldnt trust their repairs.
100%. I drove the truck another month, and then went through with the Lemon Law buyback
Damn that’s wild!
@@TheGaginator Will Toyota recognize the Lemon Law with only one failure? I thought it had to be many problems over a given time period.
@@barbwire7449 If a dealer cannot supply parts or repair the vehicle within 30 days a you can apply for lemon law
@@TheGaginator what did you replace it with? Also, was it the federal Lemon Law or your state's local interpretation?
Man am i glad i have the 5.7 v8
Yeah dude, those are excellent engines
As if there haven't been blown 5.7's before lol
@@YerBoyTroydue to owner neglect of the proper maintenance schedule.
@@mikehughes8023
No. I remember back in 2007 - 2008, the first few years of the redesigned Tundras, Toyota having to replace blown 5.7L V8s. I never buy a vehicle within the first few years of a redesign. Toyotas and Lexus’s are the most reliable overall but even they can’t overcome the new redesign bugs.
Very rare
I really want to thank you for posting your video about your Tundra motor failure.
I was so in love with this truck before my motor blew.
Small block rebuild will cause me to never trust this truck moving forward
It was nice to know I'm am not the only one having this same issue...
Thanks again for posting
I made a follow up video about the buy back process that I'll post soon
@@TheGaginatorI would like to see that .
*Short block rebuild. If this thing had a Chevy small block in it you’d have no engine problems 😂
Wife and I just bought two new to us 2021 Tundra 1794 crewmax trucks. The 5.7 is awesome and we plan to run these two trucks for many years. The migration to the twin turbo claptrap was a huge misstep and jeaporadizes the reputation of the entire company. They would have been golden if they slapped the new tranny and hybrid system on the 5.7.
The 5.7 is amazing. It;s sad, but eh EPA is killing vehicles
This is exactly what I was holding out for on the purchase of my Tundra. When I saw the direction they were going with the new 22' I began the frantic search in mid 2021 for the last of the 5.7 V8 Tundra. So glad I was able to secure a 2021 Tundra Platinum. Love it and have zero regrets!
1794 is the way to go, nice choice
Toyota got regulated out of the 5.7
Long live the 5.7 V8, 160K and runs like the day I bought it with 28K
100% man, those engines are really good
Agree this is my second Tundra with the 5.7 engine, this one a 2016 1794 148,000 miles, no leaks, burns no oil, runs like a champ.
167k on mine. Water pump and tension pulley are my repairs so far. Love it.
What happened to Toyota? Did the managers from Boeing go there?
Kinda funny, you hated the 4Runner, but they routinely last 300,000 miles and are legendary for reliability.
I have have several 4runners, and didn't hate it for it's engine. It was crazy uncomfortable inside. My back hurt so bad after 30 minutes of driving. I tried all kinds of stuff to make it better. Put about 4k miles on it.
@@TheGaginator Yeah, the seats are firm, that for sure.
Have you ever driven the previous gen Tundra? If so, I'd like to know difference in seat comfort between that and your 2022. I have a 2019 1794 that I only paid $47K for, but also have a very bad back. Wonder if newer truck is better. Local dealers don't really let me test drive for hours at a time to really see...
The 4Runner rides harsh and rough.. Nothing comfortable about it.. It is very reliable and it looks good are the main perks.
@@charlesjackson1700 We have the 4WD SR5, which is firm, but not particularly harsh to me. Maybe the various upgraded off-road versions are harsher than ours, but I would agree it’s not plush lol.
Scotty Kilmer was correct in saying it was a huge mistake to drop the 8 cylinder engine and go with a turbo 6 cylinder.
He was right. The EPA is killing vehicles
Scotty is a joke
Broken clock I guess
These stories and videos are what make me continue to be METICULOUS about maintenance on my 2014 Tundra. It's never been to a shop for a repair, 175k miles on it and it runs, drives and nearly looks like new. I'm good.
Good advice
I have a 2015 with 382,000k ZERO issues. Replaced starter last yr. Keep up on the maintenance and they will last. This is my third tundra and I can say I wont buy a new one.
The problem with the new Tundra isn't a lack of proper maintenance issue, its a factory defect...
@@charlieone604 no kidding. My point was that I intend on maintaining MY Current vehicles (2013-2015 T/L) so that I continue to AVOID having to replace them.
I’m sorry you didn’t get that from my comment.
Your frustrations are fully valid bro. That must’ve sucked, but thankfully your and your fam are all safe! Keep livin king 👑
Thank you for the kind words man!
Glad you sold it back to them... I would have NEVER accepted anything less than a brand new motor. I was tempted to buy a '22 but ended up buying a pre-owned, loaded '21 1794 Edition with 14k miles on it. The salesman actually said it was the better truck. I've had it for two years and not a hiccup. Trucks been perfect.
Man got made a great choice. At the time of my purchase, it was cheaper to buy a 2022 than a 2021, otherwise I would have gone with the tried and true v8
The salesman wasn't lying
Calling one of the worlds most reliable and great built trucks miserable from behind the wheel of your blown up Tundra on the shoulder of a toll road is bold. 😂
Initially, I had a strong reaction to that, as well. But if you think about it, this guy went through a lot of stress with his family, and he might be speaking from emotions, you know what I mean? Give him some grace. Yes, the 4runner is extremely reliable, for a man who has children, the backseat leaves something to be desired. Tundra definitely has more room for the children.
I'm sure the 4Runner is great for some people. My body did not agree with the interior, and was the main issue. I can deal with low power. I could drive for 6 hours in the tundra without stopping and have no issues with body pain. Driving the 4Runner for just about 30 minutes my back is destroyed. (recent spinal fusion) I've owned close to 500 personal vehicles and the 4Runner is just not for me. I really enjoyed some of the other 4runners that I had mostly older models.
Well that most reliable truck was built off the reputation of the 2021and older Tundra's which had those terrific V8's . This newer Tundra 2022 and newer has yet to prove its reliability and frankly I don't believe it can ever be as reliable as the v8 Tundra's.
@TheGaginator
There's no way on earth would I keep that truck, I'd cut my losses and run away from it
I love toyotas have a bunch of them , if that was me I'd use the lemon law and get my money and don't look back
I knew this was going to happen with a v6 turbo. Alot of folks called it
I Would definitely trade it in before the warranty expires, No Doubt!
100%! I let Toyota buy it back even though they gave me a lifetime warranty
@@TheGaginatorso you sold it even though they gave you a lifetime warranty? That warranty is worth 10’s of thousands of dollars. Honestly.
Although I get chills thinking Toyota techs are completely ripping the car apart.
Tough situation.
Right now the Naturally Aspirated Toyota Tundras and 4Runners are looking really good right now even if they are used/pre-owned 😊
100%!
Update: we’ve had our Tundra back two weeks after the engine failure and rebuild. Today it died again.. spent 3 hours waiting for the tow truck. Still waiting for a response from Toyota as to the buy back or replacement. I guess a lawyer will be next. Very frustrating
Wow this is AWFUL!! I hope you get this resolved. I sold my truck back to Toyota. I didnt trust the partial rebuild
Wow! At this point Toyota should be offering to buy these trucks back as soon as these failures happen. Yes it would be expensive but is it more expensive than losing customers for life? Hope they do right by you.
Look into a lemon law lawyer.
@@TheGaginatorWhat was the process for the buy back? What's the requirements. I have a 24 Tundra with almost 8k miles.
I’m so glad I have the 5.7 in my tundra
100%
My 2022 Tundra just blew up / it sounds very similar to what happen to you. I have it on a lease and will be trying to find someone to take it over. I don't believe this motor will last as long as the old ones.
I agree, and that's why I went ahead with the buyback
buyback? more info please lol @@TheGaginator
@@TheGaginator
What is this buyback you are referring to?
@@davidglover3380 There are lemon laws, essentially if the vehicle sold to you falls under the category of a "lemon", the company has to buy it back from you.
Clearly they have an engine design flaw with this truck. People want to talk about other manufacturers and their reliability but this sounds like a wide spread issue and BTW I'd want to see a new crated engine COMPLETE going into the thing otherwise buyback. None of this picking and choosing what parts are still good. It spun a bearing, I want a completely new engine
It’s crazy I get to watch your video on this issue with the 2022 Tundra. I have a 2022 SR5 Tacoma V6 and so far no problems. As I’ve been taking it for service, I noticed a 2022 Tundra Platinum with over 7k miles getting parked on the front of the dealership building with a recall fixed. I’ve been putting my eye on a new 2024 SR5 Premium package and SR5 convenience package with no dealer add ons at MSRP with our sales person. Glad I came across your video. Will hold off until Christmas to buy a new 2024/2025 Tundra. Good luck with your truck!
I ended up having Toyota buy the truck back. It seems like the issue was resolved by the late 2023 truck luckily.
from my mechanical engineering perspective I'm also looking to get tundra .... last year...2021!!!!
ower steering light has nothing to do with the engine liar
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Who hired you Chevy lol
Dude, you should never take this truck back from Toyota. You bought a brand-new truck that has already given you an engine problem. I will take it back and tell them you need a new one. The truck is too new for all these troubles. Toyota is beginning to start building junk cars like the American ones. This has to stop
I agree. Lesson learned
Americans are building better cars now tbh
@GoogleDoesEvil Since when and which make? 🤔🤣 All you have to do is type the year and name of the vehicle, followed by the word "problems," into the CZcams search bar. You will find millions of videos of customers complaining about the many problems with their new cars.
@TheGaginator Hi, did you know these new Toyota Tundras qualify for the lemon law? The dealership will take it back and give you all your money back, right?
They should have kept the 5.7 V8 as an option and then mate it with an updated 10 speed automatic transmission and/or update the axle ratio to help with fuel economy. There really was no need to reinvent the wheel here.
100%
This stuff always happens during the weekend (Plumbing usually breaks on Sunday morning) so you can have maximum trouble. Nice looking truck by the way.
Truth! Haha. God really came through during this one though. There was alot more to the story, but didn't want to make the video long. And thanks!
LOL.. DID YOU WANT TO SAY NICE PLUMBING PIPES??? lol
Sorry to hear about this - you never know truthfully. Any vehicle could have issues. Thx for sharing and hope everything works out in the end. Pray your next purchase goes smoothly
Thank you for the kind words Kevin! My current daily drivers are an older Toyota, and older GM.
Power steering light has nothing to do with the engine liar
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Who hired you Chevy lol
lol it's funny what some consider miserable. I would consider a vehicle with a blown engine at 16k miles miserable. Hopefully Toyota gets their shit together with these turbo engines. If I had to choose between the 4.0L v6 and the 3.4L twin turbo V6, I'd choose the 4.0 1,000 times.
The engine power wasn't miserable it was the comfort for me. I could Drive the tundra for 6 hours straight without stopping but only 30 minutes to an hour in the 4Runner in my back was killing me. I put 5,000 miles on the 4Runner and did multiple trips across the country. I tried all kinds of different positions and seat cushions to help with this, but my body just didn't agree with this 4Runner
Never mind...3UR FE. 1GR FE is also near bullet proof
2011 Tacoma here. 160k 1GR-FE 4.0l. .5qt oil use in 5k oil changes. Silky smooth engine. No problems , but those seats are murder. Good luck in future Toyota trucks.
@@tomphillips2608 I had a 13. The v6 is very reliable.
sorry you had such difficulty. I’m a retired service advisor/manager Lexus , Toyota, Ford etc. My son now works for Lexus, they are constantly having issues with new models and having to deliver new units with one key only due to chip shortage. I’ve been out for 7 years (bad back) but unbelievable stories like yours make me feel so bad for the industry I worked in 40 years always to strive for customer satisfaction and high survey scores. I had lost faith in the post covid work where nobody cares! I always had advisors contact all customers everyday by 3:00 even if nothing had changed. The New world is not the one i grew up in. I own several cars my most reliable is a 2000 Camary 2.2, and a ‘72 Nova. Hope you the best ! Ford has had engine problems with turbo motors as Well. Man I would have a hard time keeping that truck as nice as it is unless I was provided concrete evidence something was done to prevent future catastrophic failures. At a minimum they should offer you a free hundred thousand mile extended warranty.
Thanks for the comment! It really is disheartening seeing how much the industry doesn't care about customers. The new stuff just isn't anything close to the old stuff. I have had at least 5 older Toyotas with over 300k miles. Currently Have a 1996 Corolla beater with 205k
Time to go back to normal v8 power no turbos
I know a guy who had the same problem with about same mileage maybe a few more on it with a 2023. waited 3 months to get it repaired and after getting it back 7 days later it seized up again.
Wow that's absolutely awful! I was upset with having to wait a few months and getting my truck back, I can't imagine if it happened again I would be livid.
@@TheGaginator They replaced they said everything that oil passed thru. Haven't heard much from either toyota or the dealership from what he said. Not sure what his plan is now.
Imafraid to part with my 2000 tundra after these stories
@@Jeff-sp7bg Its a very small amount of new Tundras that this is happening to. All in all ,the fact that it is happening and no immediate fix is the concerning part. I had a 22 Tundra ordered and waited 14 months for it and finally gave up and bought a Sierra with a 3.0L Duramax.
@@patrickc8190 how do you know how many are having these problems?
Toyota has always buried problems like this, even with simple recalls, DOA
Yep. Spung bearing cylinder no3 for me..32k. Hâte my Truck now...
Ridiculous right? I sold my truck back to Toyota. I'll post a video on that soon.
A few weeks ago I watched my neighbor’s new 1794 Tundra being hauled off on a flat bed. Toyota bought back under lemon law. Neighbor is out a ton on all the extras he bought for what he thought was going to be a dream vehicle for him. 😢
Dang that's sad.
Toyota is no better than any...never as capable as big 3. Or as much technology
And Toyota will do their best to keep all this very quiet, they always have, that’s one thing they are very “reliable” about
Power steering failure 😂😂😂 which associates to engine being locked
Stop capping bro
@@fettaboyproductions6022 this is not a Tik Tok site therefore we don't tolerate Ebonics..or ignorance
Makes my 2000 GMC Sierra SLT that I’ve owned for 23 plus years look that much better! Broke down one time in 183K miles (fuel pump). Had 5K miles on it when I bought it in 2001 for $12,900 cash!
That body style GM truck is one of the most reliable vehicles ever made. I've probably had close to 20 of them. I went with a 2008 GMC Yukon with a 6.2 and no DOD to worry about
I'm a toyota dealership tech and I've seen 2 of these trucks come in with under 30,000 miles on them and the engine locked up. I love the styling and comfort of the new tundra's, but I'm weary of the engine. I wish they would've stuck with the V8
same man, It was the most comfortable vehicle for trips. Better than my GMC Denali
I have a 2021 Tacoma ,wanted to get a new tundra but now seeing your video I will be more than happy with the 2021 tundra with a V8
100% buy a 2021 or older Tundra, they are very reliable
Fellow DFW resident here, dump it! I know it's not apples to apples, but I had a very similar situation with a 3.5L EcoBoost SHO. The cam phaser issues popped up with less than 30k miles, and religious oil changes, but I loved the car so much and pushed through. I got to know my Service Advisor and one of her kiddos, spent about two months in a rental car while mine was getting various issues repaired. That car did not go a whole year in the four I owned it without needing some kind of work. Shortly after the warranty ended, I got a MIL for cam crank correlation (forgot the exact P code)...I was done and just sold it to Carmax with 60k miles.
Great advice. I did end up having Toyota buy it back. I am going to post a video on how that went.
@TheGaginator Glad to hear! No hate against Toyota, but I don't wanna see anyone go through that, especially another father and husband.
Plenty of 5.7 tundras had engine failures to start with..Don’t buy the first year even Toyota
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There are also plenty of 5.7 Tundras with over a million miles proven. 😊
We just went through the same process. 22 tundra SR5 4x4 same color 😂. They had our truck just over a month and sounds like the exact same repair.. short block and components. I’ve filed a claim with Toyota asking them to re-purchase the truck because I also don’t have faith in a brand new truck with a re-built engine. I would have felt a little better if they had dropped a new factory crate motor in it instead of opting for a re-build. They had the truck for 3 months last year for a rattle in the diver side door. Out of 17 months of ownership, we’ve only enjoyed it 13 months. Love the truck and believe in Toyota as a reliable brand. I hope they do right by their customers in this situation.
This sounds like the exact same experience that I've had with my 2022 SR5. It went to the dealer three or four times for all different kinds of interior noises ranging from wind noise to rattles. All of which the dealer was unable to fix and I ended up just figuring it out myself. I felt the same way with them replacing the motor and then not having confidence in it. I went ahead and did the buyback and I'll do a video on how that process went. Thanks for the comment!
Having worked for toyota as a mechanic at a dealer. You can't buy a crate engine from toyota. They have short blocks. An engine with no cylinder heads. That's how they have always done it.
The old Toyota is dead. This is the new Toyota with Turbo slapped on everything if you’re lucky maybe you’ll get 100,000 miles out of it.
Toyota only ships short blocks and will only include heads if there's damage up there. It's standard procedure for most foreign manufacturers to only replace parts that are broken/damaged and reuse everything else.
It’s the bearing issue being made out of cast iron versus aluminum is the main culprit of these vehicles. Cast iron doesn’t dissipate heat as well so having bigger contraction and expansion of the material like cast iron is bound to cause problems.
Great looking truck. I have a 22 limited trdoffroad with 41k. Bought in March of 2022, build date was in February of 22. Only had little glitches there and there. Other than that the engine has been solid. I would ask toyota for a extended warranty as far as they can go. At least to hold you over a a couple years. I'll be getting a 2025 when my lease is up. Sorry you had to go through that
Thanks for the compliment! I'm glad your truck has been good, I think these trucks will probably be fine in the long run but I just had a few that were no good from the manufacturing point. I ended up going with the Toyota buy back on this, even though I had a lifetime warranty through the dealer that I bought it from. The headache wasn't worth it
My 2022 Tundra seized yesterday at 20811 miles. I’ve been told I’m getting a new engine. Mine is the second one my dealership has seen, both 2022’s. Thank you for posting this video. It’s good to not be alone in this situation.
Dang that really sucks. Hoping they get it fixed up in a timely manner!!!
Its warranty work dealerships take their time doing the engine swap. Really they should have dropped a brand new engine.
I agree, but the issues at the time of my engine work was parts availability unfortunately. I argued for a complete engine replacement, but they could not get cylinder heads
Thank you for your truthful video. And I'm sorry for all the apologists and those who are saying not to believe what you've experienced.
Thank you for the kind words, I wasn't trying to bash Toyota or anything like that I just wanted to give my experience and maybe help someone else out that has this issue
This is practically the same experience I had with RAM recently. Just got my 2021 RAM 1500 Big Horn back from them on Feb 28 after bringing it in on Jan 2, 2024. Only 16k miles and continual overheating issues. Finally found out that a cylinder head was warped and needed all new head gaskets. Damage internally was so bad they replaced the entire long block. Having it back for about a week now, I have the same feeling you do, don’t think I trust the truck anymore and trying to decide what to do… Take the gamble or sell it. Oh yeah, and service reps were just as bad at RAM… Never heard a word from anyone and couldn’t get a return call.
If you want a full size truck with a NA V8 as well as the "reliability" (I quote this because reliability is also dictated by how diligently a person maintains their truck or car) of a Japanese brand, look into the Titan. The amount of features and what you pay for a top trim Pro-4X is for lack of a better word, incredible. You get a 5 yr, 100k mile warranty too. Where I live in NY, some dealerships around me is actually offering them below MSRP since the F-150 is the go-to for most full size truck buyers.
While Nissan sedans and crossovers with the Jatco CVT are time bombs, their truck lineup is actually legitimate.
good points here
I bought a new 2023 Titan Pro4X last June. The dealer gave me a $7k discount with the doc fee as the only adder and financed it at 0%. And the dealer included a life time drive train warranty. I'm loving it, powerful, quiet, very comfortable. Old school in many ways with its V8, hydraulic steering, no cylinder deactivation, no stop and start and not good on gas but I'm retired and don't drive much.
I bought a frontier in 22 (almost bought a titan) Nissan has really stepped up the quality in their trucks, people ignore em, very underrated.
100%, Nissan is the new Goto for quality reliable trucks and suvs.
Never touch ANY of their cars.
Toyota just drove their reputation, customers, and company profits off a cliff.
Better act fast, Titan is going bye bye
Buy a Nissan Titan. Has a V8 with no cylinder deactivation and doesn’t shut off at stoplights, and they are really dealing on them since it’s the last year of production.
Idk man, I wouldn't want to buy a truck that is being discontinued either.
I wouldn't worry about that, it has a 5 year, 100,000 mile warranty, many mechanical parts are used on other models and OEMs have to support their products for 10 years minimum. @@TheGaginator
I bought a new 2023 pro4X XD, so it has the 6.5 foot bed, this Christmas/New Year Nissan was dealing more than the big 3, I got it for a little less than $54K OTD. It's replacing my '09 Frontier that has over 215K miles and has been bullet proof. The best vehicle I have ever owned.@@TheGaginator
I have one love it love it
It’s a shame Nissan doesn’t continue it after Toyota dumps their V8. It might have driven Titan demand up. I’m looking at them now.
Keep us on the loop.
I ended up having Toyota buy it back, and I talked about it in my next video
Man am I glad to have the 4.7 V8 1st Gen Toyota with 270k.
Yup, it will last forever im sure
271k on my 4.7. It is a 2007.
My 22 Tundra engine locked up January 1st. The dealership it is at seems to really be trying to help me. They still do not have a date when all the parts will be delivered so it can be fixed. Not happy with big Toyota.
Hopefully yours is fixed soon! I'm going to psot a follow up video soon about this. I sold the truck back to Toyota
Unfortunately you will have to get used to being unhappy
@@TheGaginator how much did you lose? What are you replacing it with? I have thought about buying an older one.
It’s very interesting that a new Toyota engine broke so fast. My wife and I currently own three Toyotas but I don’t think I am going to buy any new Toyota with Turbos and hybrid combined. These cars and trucks are going to be a nightmare outside warranties. They need to bring the 5.7L V8 back so that people can choose if they want a v8 or a twin turbocharged 3.4L V6. I am glad they took care of you.
I have owned several Toyotas with over 300k miles, and will continues to buy the older ones. The EPA is the true killer of vehicles. Forcing manufacturers to conform the regulations that technology hasn’t caught up to.
As soon as they get your money its, thank you very much and have a nice day.
Yup pretty much
Beautiful Tundra you got there, looks great, I bought a 2023 Tundra SR, as base as you can get them, I only have 3K on it now, I have a few issues with it, from a whistling rear air vent (dealer has a fix for it) to dash rattles and a engine start stop feature that hasn't worked in the winter (programming) My dealer has been a pleasure to work with so far, so the minor issues I have with it, I can live with. It's a shame Toyota and the dealer did not live up to their image on quality and durability in your case, a dirty engine after a rebuild is totally unacceptable and the lack of communication is a poor response on the dealer. I like my Toyota and this is my second one, but I don't think they are as bullet-poof as everyone makes them out to be.
Thanks for the compliment! I worked really hard to get this truck where I wanted to and did a lot of R&D myself at my own shop. From what I've been able to find the 2023 trucks don't have the reliability issues that the 2022 trucks did. They still have a lot of the Interior quality problems though, it went to the dealership several times for all kinds of interior noises rattles and whistling. Hopefully your truck will be great! I am just been pretty upset with the way new vehicles are. I went back to driving my old cars
@@TheGaginator I hear ya, that is why I still drive a 2005 Ford F350 6.0 Power Stroke!
My 4runner ORP is comfortable AF, drove it outta state 4 times already no complaints from me, but everyone has different body types.
It's got to just be body type! I'm sure it's plenty reliable, but I couldn't stand driving it.
I bought a new 2022 Tundra in July of 22. I loved the ride quality and driving comfort with no squeaks or excessive wind noise. I sold my Tundra in November of 2023 while the value was still good. The main problem that convinced me to sell it was almost every time that I cold started the engine there would be like a light hammer thump as the engine lit off. This was almost like a piston detonation but dull. Very well could have been a connecting rod bearing or a piston wrist pin giving out. Either way i did not want to keep the truck plus what I had read about other problems with the newer Tundra’s. When sold my truck had 9,482 miles on the odometer. I wasted my time taking it to the dealer mechanic’s which naturally turned out as “could not duplicate”. My wife’s car is a 2023 Corolla Cross and we like every thing about it except for the very limited cubbies for storing front seat driver and passenger items such as iPhone, gum etc. but the best thing about the car is that it has a great naturally aspired engine. I doubt that I will ever buy a turbocharged vehicle again. I’m sorry for the problems that you are having with your Tundra and God bless you and your family 🙏🏻.
Thanks for the comment! I agree with sticking non turbo for daily drivers. Turbos are for my fun cars haha. I had the clunk on start, wind noise, and dash rattles also. My wife was interested in the new Corolla, or Prius, but after the issues with my truck, we got get a Chevy Volt.
I agree with the whole naturally aspirated engine logic. My 2015 Tundra with the 5.7 engine is going strong, not one problem. My wife’s 2017 RAV4 needed some front brake work after only about 40k miles but other than that it’s also been great. The world isn’t building new engines with reliability in mind, that has already been done. Now it’s all about emissions reductions and all these problems
I've been on the trade for over 40 years. I will have to say the most common thing is an improper cleaning of the block before assembly. The crank will tell .Also, if they didn't replace the heads, it is because it had oil pressure. If not, it will eat the cams and journals in the heads
Very good information here
my understanding is that this motor is shared between tundra, sequoia, Lexus gx and landcruiser.
That is correct. Now even the latest 2024 models are still having this same failure !
What engine oil was in the engine? What was the weight?How many miles on the oil change? What was the engine rpm at cruising speed?
Toyota 0w-20 oil. 2k miles or less on the oil. It has been serviced the month before.
I was really wanting the new Tundra but the twin turbo V-6 was just a huge turnoff for me. I don't understand why Toyota did not try to make a hybrid version of the 5.7 with the new composite bed and lighter frame. The V-8 5.7 , 4.7, 4.6 are solid and were proven. The V-6 Turbo should have been an option like Ford does with their F-150's. I will hold on to my two V-8 Tundra's and look elsewhere for a new Truck for now. Sorry about your engine issues.
100% on all your points. Toyota has had awesome engines before this. We can thank the EPA for all the issues with new vehicles.
Would be awesome to hear more about the 4runner fails. Man I would be outraged if my family was stranded and everything you went through. Seems like you're a peaceful guy props to you!
The 4runner was just so uncomfortable. I tried really hard to make it work. I used 5 different types of cushions even. I'm sure plenty of people like them. It was an AWFUL situation for sure, but hey, God's got a plan and it always works out.
So glad I have a 2UZ-FE in my 03 4Runner, 178k and perfect.
Excellent presentation BTW.
Hey thanks! I bet the 4runner I had to drive would have been reliable, but it was just too uncomfortable
Excess Machining Material within the Lead Main Bearing Oil Gallery...seen two myself. Early '22 Builds. Just comes down to not cleaning the block well enough after machine work was done. Has nothing to do with a poor design of the engine, etc.
Great info ^. The engine design seems solid to me, I was told there were manufacturing issues with the main bearings.
Considering what this guy’s been through, he seems super chill. I’d have been throwing f-bombs left & right lambasting Toyota. And here I am about to plunk down money on a hybrid ‘24 Tacoma. 🤣
Everytime I had to talk to Toyota
🙏 *Dear God, please help me not kill anyone today, Amen* 🙏
Not gonna lie man, I was probably more upset at this situation than anything else in my life haha.
@@TheGaginator 🤣 “God grant be the strength and decency not to murder the QA person that birthed this faulty product into the American market.”
Did you know of anyone else personally who was affected by these same issues?
You get to deal with a turbo and a battery! Good luck!
Buying the first model year run of any new vehicle is a big risk. I wouldn't touch the new 2.7 turbo tacoma for at least the next 3 years considering all the issues with the turbo tundra
@@dustincollins16 appreciate the insight. I’ve weighed the Pros and Cons and gone back and forth beyond reason. Truth is, older Tacomas have a weak v6 that often “gear-hunted” when hitting higher rpm’s. So, 6 of one, half a dozen of another. I’ll bite the bullet on this one. I’ll be starting a channel based on my experiences with the truck as well. Might give me *some* leverage with Toyota if anything goes habitually wrong.
Bring back the 5,7. in the new truck. It would sell like hot cakes and coffee.
100%!
💥 for sure 💥
Man that sucks. I'm sorry you've had to deal with that. I love the body style of the new Tundras. In a perfect world, new body style with engine swap for the I force V8!
Man that would have been great if these came with a v8! I liked alot of things about this truck
Sorry this happened to you. I have a 2023 TRD pro that has been rock solid. That dealership sounds like a nightmare to have to deal with. Just got some info on why the engines have been blowing last week. He told me that 50 engines have blown so far. The blocks were not cleaned properly after machining. Metal particles left in the engine block. He said that 2022 model year are the engines with this problem.
I've heard the 23 models are good. I was told that the bottom end parts were sourced from a lesser quality plage for a few months. Who knows man.
@@TheGaginator it’s just like the turbo problems. A couple dozen trucks have a problems and the sky is falling! 😂 At the end of the day Toyota will fix it. I love my TRD pro and feel lucky to own one!
I have a 2023 and mine blew with 33k miles
@@davidglover3380 what did they find out when they tore it down? Were you running a JB4 tuner?
@stevemorris6270
They think it's the Rod but it might be the main bearing
My dealership is waiting on a Toyota guy to show up before they tear it down
No I didn't install a tuner...
Can it be LS swapped down the line? Probably could sort that out for less than 10k no?
Haha 100%!
No, because its a small twin turbo and the motor mounts amd a bunch more would need changing or custom work.
I have not seen one new Tundra or any Toyotas broken down on the side of the road and this is the first video I have seen on Utube. GM, Ford and Dodge do have big issues. That suck you and your family were stranded on the road. I am driving my 13th Toyota ( 2021 Toyota Tacoma TRD Offroad) 90k no trips to the shop. I wish you good luck in what ever you do.
Thanks for the comment! I too have owned MANY Toyotas, several with over 300k miles, and loved them. Hopefully the bugs get worked out for other buyers
My v8 tundra had no engine cap for a week. Dealer forgot to put the cap back after an oil change. It was seating under the hood the whole time. Oil spilled under the hood i took it back they admitted their mistake and gave me new oil change and complete wash . V8 runs with no issues even after all this happened. V8 is simple and does not quite on you.
100% The v8 is the way to go.
My best friend of 32 years bought a brand new 2007 Toyota tundra with a 4.7 V8. He ran that thing like there was no tomorrow; reliable truck for the past 15 years, never a problem besides maintenance. He just traded it in last week for that new tundra with the V6 turbo…. I advised him against it, but he went on the head and pulled the trigger. Let’s see what happens.🙄
I really hope the new one is reliable for him, but there is absolutely NO WAY these turbo engines will last as long as the 4.7 and 5.7
Your best friend is F'd.
Wow bro, I am very glad to hear that you and your family are okay after dealing with that ordeal, thank God. We knew that there would be some issues with the first year model of any vehicle but this one has left me seriously skeptical in my decision to purchase a new anything toyota for now. I don't know if the lifted modifications had anything to do with the diving dynamics at this point but it would sure be nice to know if it did but anyway, let's see what you will get next. I did read in your comments that you did sell it back to Toyota which I definitely would have done too and simply avoiding your calls so that they wouldn't have to explain anything to you is extremely poor customer service. A simple answer of "we don't know why your product failed like this as of yet but we will certainly have an answer of some sort for you asap would have been a better and more appropriate way of providing service to you from this dealership. Over 60k is a lot of $$$ for these vehicles and I really hope that this truck was simply a lemon and not a recurring thing for other Toyota tundra owners of the new gen.
Thank you for the kind words. After some time has passed I've been able to gain some information about the failure. Apparently the engine crankshaft bearings or associated parts were sourced from a lower quality supplier for several months in 2022 which caused the failure
You are welcome and it is both disappointing and good news, disappointing that Toyota has decided to increase their profit margin at the expense of their perceived customer satisfaction, reputation, and loyalty or is it because it's built here in the USA and secondly, it's also good news that your lifting of the truck (for which I said to myself, if anyone would know, it would be a legit mechanic) had nothing to do with the modifications of the truck in this capacity other then possibly decreasing full economy which would have left me to definitely believe that the turbo charged v6 will not be reliable after all but, it isn't the case for you. So for now, a new Tundra is still up in the air for now but I will wait for a bit and doing a lift and replacing the tires with 35's on it is still something foreseeable in the future. Bless you and your family and your subscribers and continue the good work on your youtube channel.
It’s really not the first year of that motor. It’s been out for quite a while in the Lexus, so the motors been true trade it’s just a rare thing happened to him, also tired he doesn’t want you to know where one wrong because they’re very proud of their trucks. That’s why they weren’t communicating with you.
I have a 18 tundra… I bought it 2 years ago…. Had 17k miles and it has 27k now. I was so close buying a new gen tundra but here in commiefornia (100 mile radius) I couldn’t find the truck I wanted at msrp…. All wanted a 20k markup… F that and the tundra they rode in on. Found a limited 4x4 trd off-road crewmax in mesquite brown. Absolutely love the truck. It was a lil pricey but $47k was worth it to me. Besides the price after sitting down and doing hard thinking I didn’t want to have a v6 and deal with turbos… man, I’m glad I got what I did… the new tundras are so beautiful and the infotainment system makes me want to cry with jealousy but I simply love my thirsty girl. Brother, I truly hope you come to a decision you a live with. I too am on your side and line of thinking about what if it breaks out of warranty… I couldn’t do it. I’d get an another brand of truck or get a v8 tundra. Best of luck brother
I wanted a 2021 Tundra, but anything 2019-2021 was MORE expensive than a new one. I made the wrong choice
i bought a cheap older nissan titan replaced timing chain i like doing my own work older vehicles are the way to go cause parts are everywhere and there so much easier to work on
Yup I agree. At my shop, we've seen that vehicle made in 2019 + are garbage. I am back to driving old stuff. My current daily drivers are a 2008 GMC and 1996 Toyota.
many consumers have tried to tell Toyota to stop with the bullshit twin turbos and turbo 4 cyl now in the Tacoma. They dont listen. They will .
Yes you're right I was a little disappointed to see that in the new Tacoma because it looks like such an awesome truck. The government is the problem driving crazy high efficiency out of small engines
It's going to take time to get better at anything. I would be more afraid of a company that never strives to be better. 10 years from now, your opinions about Toyota won't matter.
@@bad_vaporizervery true Ford's been doing turbos for over a decade now and have taken the reputation hit but I would trust them with turbos over the newly designed Toyota turbos.
That's an expensive lesson learned. My whole minivan was $10K paid in cash and just passed the safety / emission inspection on its eighth year. Really glad I'm blessed in this climate.
Minivans are so slept on. Toyota sienna is great thus far
100% I went back to older vehicles. I have owned hundreds of cars, all paid in cash. This was the first time ive ever done something like this. Lesson learned.
It is scary. I have thought about getting rid of mine before the warranty goes out. I love mine so far. I have the air ride on mine & it’s the best riding vehicle that I’ve ever had, that’s including Fords,Chevy,Ram,Cadillac……
This is a common problem, I was advised from the service writers and the parts guys at our Toyota dealer not to buy the new tundra for the engines having a high failure rate. I am sure over time toyota will correct the issues. Sounds like the dealer did their best to take care of you.
Hoping all the bugs are sorted out now for other people's sake. It's the EPA who is ruining the reliability of vehicles
@@TheGaginator yeah the EPA loves to screw up a good thing
Why was the 4Runner so miserable? Let me guess… performance?
Haha yes performance was awful on the forerunner, but the comfort was why I hated it. I have lots of other vehicles and I've driven very slow things. I daily drive a Ford Festiva a lot of times haha. The comfort of the Forerunner was something I just couldn't get over. I could write in the tundra for 6 hours straight without stopping, but the 4Runner would destroy my back within just 30 minutes or so. I did at least five very long road trips in the 4Runner across the US and i definitely would never purchase one
I’ve been super hesitant to do a aftermarket lift and tires on my 22 tundra because I’m afraid Toyota will void my warranty if I have the same issue. It’s good to hear they didn’t give you any hassle
Yup, they will be fine as ling as you stay at 3 inches or less
Why waste you money on a useless lift.
Thanks for the honesty. One doesn't find it much these days. I own a 2014 Subaru WRX STI 5-door, and despite thousands (maybe millions by now, I don't know) complaints about engines self-destructing, the failures (most being similar to your supposed crankshaft bearing failure, or piston ring failure) were being caused by aggressive throttle application under 2,500 RPM causing excessive boost pressures and creating major havoc with engine internals. I have never had a problem with mine (I also own a 2002 WRX bugeye wagon) because I don't get on the boost until after 3K RPM. Teaching younger generations to not be so aggressive with throttle application is difficult, to say the least. I do own two Tundras, one a 2006 with the 4.7L V8, and a 2018 with the 5.7L. The 2006 Tundra is by FAR a better truck, in my opinion. I bought the 2018 in May 2018, and have pretty much just stored it since. It's only got 4K miles on it, but the '06 has over 270K with NO problems except for the factory recall for ball joints.
Like I said before. The turbo engines won’t last
Truth
What was wrong with the 4Runner? I understand the Tundra and the 4Runner are not in the same category. All these new trucks and suvs are way overpriced.
I suspect that it has to do with the Tundra being a new design with all of the modern amenities and the 4Runner essentially being a 13 + year old truck. That said, you never hear of a 4Runner blowing its engine with 16K miles on the clock!
4Runner way overpriced and grossly underpowered
For me it was the interior comfort. I can deal with the low power, I drive plenty of low power vehicles. I could ride in the tundra for a very long time without taking breaks, but the Forerunner would kill my back after less than an hour of driving. I've owned older 4Runners and they were not a problem
100% thrue
@@TheGaginator I totally get it, I went from a 2013 Altima SL to a 2020 RX350 F Sport. The Altima seats were more comfortable on long trips to me.
I know the Lexus has more comfortable seats in non F sport models. Maybe the limited 4Runner has better seats then the one you drove.
I was looking to purchase a 4runner before they pull the V6 and the 5 speed for reliability reason.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
Have a 2023 -- put 12k on it so far. No issues at all. Big comfy hauler that's crazy quick too.
Hopefully you'll never have any issues out of it. I really did love a lot of things about this truck, the comfort and towing capability where my two favorite things. It towed better than my V10 F250 and got double the fuel mileage
bring back the 3ur-fe
I'll buy the old generation... 5.7l V8 all the way and it'll be cheaper, more reliable and easier to maintain
@@desertblade1874 yep, only a coolant valley plate to worry about every 100k. Not a bad DIY job
haha heck yeah
4Runner miserable??
I've had older 4runners and I really enjoyed them. This truck was just so uncomfortable I could not write in it for 30 minutes without having back pain where I could ride in my Tundra for 6 hours without taking a break no problem. The lack of power in the 4runner was also a complaint. I'm sure they're great for some people
Gorgeous truck. I said when this engine first came out. If they're going to take a smaller V6 block and push the same hp as a larger V8 block, that hp now has to be distributed over 6 pistons, rods, and bearings instead of 8. It also has a smaller crank. Because of that, I've been saying that they hopefully upgraded all the bearing areas, rods, crank, etc to take that added stress per part. Typically when you take a smaller engine and increase the power this much, you reduce life. Same with engine speed. Turbo engines tend to rev higher to spool turbos. Rule of thumb is, if you run twice the engine speed, you get half the life. But maybe they did upgrade all the bearing areas, and this was just a machining mistake. As far as I'm concerned, turbocharging a car engine is fine, because the engine is not under heavy load very often. With a truck however, it's not only a heavier vehicle, but it's expected to tow, and haul heavy loads. It's a lot to ask out of a smaller chunk of iron.
Solid info here, and right on point ^
Hey nice truck the wife and i have the 2019 Toyota Tundra double cab sr5 not 4wd but has everything else like bed cover and so fourth our engine bay was filthy also i have a pressure washer(ryobi 2000 psi) and i covered the entire engine in car wash soap and then used a tip on the pressure washer that allowed the water to come out at a lower pressure to knock off all of the dirt/and grime off the engine it came out sparkling clean where you can eat off it. i also used my air compressor and blow gun to blast water from all of the electrical connectors under the hood i made sure everything was completely dry and then started the truck up and have not had any issues. i guess these engines just get filthy.
Thanks!
As a Toyota fan boy, I am not a fan of any part of your story. Especially the sh_tty service from the dealer. I've been skeptical of the new generation with the turbo engines. Now I'm really worried. I just bought a 2021 with the V8 and love it. Hope it lasts me a long time.
Yes I'm a Toyota Fanboy as well I'll admit it. I have owned many many Toyotas ranging from pretty much every model that they make. I don't think you're going to have any problems with your 2021, those trucks routinely see 300,000 miles
Toyotas not built in Japan 👎
BOO indeed. Assembled in Texas, but parts sourced from Mexico among other places :(
I work at a toyota dealership in Central Florida and we were the first dealership to replace an engine on a tundra, 50 miles with a spun bearing, 👍 good job toyota, and seen many more after that
Geeeeez
Toyota needs to simply offer a direct buyback on all the 22-24 Tundras and go back to the 5.7.
I totally agree with this
v8 2021 tundra😇. As high as 21mpg on the Hiway no lie. Last of the keeper Tundras for a while at least
I wish i did this. At the time that i bought this truck, a used 2012 was selling for MORE than a new one. I couldn't bring myself to pay more for a used vehicle. My mistake.
Debunking the myth of Toyota quality.
Unfortunately in this case. I've owned several Toyotas with over 300k miles though.
Wrong, Toyota previous gen vehicles are the best in the world and it's not a debate or even a close race.
These new gen smaller displacement turbo pos engine are destroying the brand and customer base.
Brother I fully understand the frustration. I used to be a huge ford guy and had a major issue with my prior 2019 150. Never did sit well with me so I got rid of it because. At this point man not many trucks have the reliability of prior generations. Maybe get an extended warranty for if it happens again.
I went back to driving older vehicles again. I've always driven things at least 15 years old if not older.
Im a technican at a Toyota dealer and I can comfortably say the new generation Tundras are JUNK!!!! From fuel lines leaking, turbos failing and engines locking up do not own these trucks out of powertrain warranty. I dont even wanna mention the 5 or 6 recalls already out on them. If you own the 5.7 UR Series V8 Trucks KEEP EM!!!!!!!!
100%!! The 5.7 trucks are still the bomb. We have a customer that brings his fleet trucks to out shop, and they are all Tundras with 200-300k miles. Never any bigger issues than common wear
Pro Tip: Never buy the first generation of any engine or transmission.
It takes them at LEAST two years to find and fix the design flaws.
100%!!!
I have of the early last gen tundra v8. The 07 and 08 had alot of transmission issues. The issues disappered post 2009 when toyota did a change inside.
At 155k my tundra gernaded the transmission. I put 5k to get it fixed. Still tows my 7k trailer for past 30k miles at 185k.
Outside of that the truck has been good other than a airbag light that cost me 2k to fix a feq years ago.
But still running strong😂 . No rust pulls my trailer all day and the crewmax has space
I should have bought a 5.7 for sure. I tried to get a 17-21 Tundra, but they were almost the same price as a new one, and I just made a poor choice
My 2022 tundra double cab sr5 the waste went out of it 24 hrs after purchase. I drove my 2020 tundra while it sat waiting for parts for 2 months..they fixed it.drove it for a year and a half.then traded it for the 2024 model tundra
Man I feel your pain...had a similar issue but with 2023 Ford Explorer ST we bought a year ago. 2 months after purchasing ( not to mention waiting 7 months to have it built) with 1600 miles had powertrain malfunction, service engine soon, & pre-collision assist not available messages. Had it towed to our local dealer & had to wait over 2 months. We did same as you filed a lemon law buy back. At end we had a choice to return it or receive a settlement from Ford. We kept the car with the settlement money. It turned out to be software issues. Had modules replaced & reprogrammed. I finally got a letter in the mail from Ford yesterday to correct the rear camera issues that has been plaguing these Explorers. I'm hoping it helps with the pre-collision assist that still pops up from time to time. Trust me I wanted to get rid of it but seems every manufacturer is suffering all kinds of recalls. Just recently heard Toyota Tacomas are getting hit too. Hopefully you get compensated for your troubles. East Texas resident here.
Oh geez this sounds awful, 7 months! I had Toyota buy it back
Loyal Toyota customer for 20 years ! But after looking and shopping no more Toyota's going FORD !
I'll be staying far from new vehicles as long as possible.
My engine seized right after my 25k svc. Going back and forth with dealer now to figure out this nightmare. My options to choose from presented to me so far are:
1 purchase a new truck that potentially has the same issues and Toyota will be nice enough to let me out of my original leased vehicle that is sitting In the svc dept with a seized motor.
2 voluntary repo and ruin my credit
Was reading through the comments and getting depressed about you and others getting there dream vehicle only to have it be a dealership garage long term guest. I remember watching videos with the former truck chief engineer comparing the old 5.7 Tundra to the competition and how they would sacrifice fuel economy for reliability etc etc. I am surprised they did not replace the whole motor since they must have spares now that the model has been out for a few years. I have a 2015 double cab SR5 plus with 5.7 and TRD off road package with about 90 thousand miles in central Canada which has real winters. Other than regular maintenance I replaced tires at 60 thousand miles and changed the belt tensioner and belt. If you liked the old body style I would consider a low mileage 2021. I saw some videos of the new Tundra with rear door window trims not lining up, air whistling in rear windows. door handles rattling and driver seat trim cracking. Good luck.
It really is sad to see all these new vehicles going bad. At my shop, it seems all the major brands have gone down hill on quality since 2019. When I bought this truck in Sept 2022, it was cheaper to buy a brand new vehicle than a used one. I searched for 2 months all over for a 2021 in decent trim for less than $55k and couldn't find one.
I sold the tundra back to Toyota and went back to driving older vehicles.
I've had a couple of Toyota's and I can't say they are that bulletproof. Never had an engine failure but a lot of other bad components such as water pump, alternator, suspension and brake issues. So in 2009 I bought a new F150 4x4 with the now notoriously bad 5.4 V8. I am still waiting for it to blow up. I have 150,000 miles of heavy use (trailer towing) all over U.S. I have replaced the alternator once and the A/C compressor 3X. Otherwise nothing but normal maintenance and 5000 mile oil changes. the engine has never been touched. And it does not leak oil at all. I guess I'm lucky. Probably living on Borrowed time but I certainly have gotten my money's worth. Also have worn out four sets of Pirelli ATR's. It still runs like new.
I have had at least 3 Toyotas with over 300k miles. I truly believe the EPA is the killer of vehicles.
I find my 2.7 ford eco was great for every day driving , but once I started to pull my 6000 lb. Trailer , the transmission gets up to over 130 degrees Centigrade and that’s going uphill , especially where I live . 7 years later before my warranty expired the truck started to miss fire and dealership changed out the two heads because of bad carbon up valves . After that , I put in a catch can and a Misamoto transmission radiator which kept the transmission running at 94 to 96 degrees when I was pulling the trailer. After a few more issues I went and traded for a second hand 2020 f150 5 litre v8 with the same mileage. I noticed the engine and transmission ran a lot cooler because the engine is not covered up like my eco boost engine. The reliability of the boost motors also in lots of cars will be problematic and for me to keep a vehicle running for 20 years is out of the question . My 2000 f150 5.4 is still running when I sold it down the street.
You are 100% correct on all your points. I too own a 5.4 F150 , and mine has close to 300k miles!