Top 10 De-Evolution Cards in Yugioh (Cards which are weaker versions of other cards)
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Occasionally they'll print cards that are actually just weaker versions of existing cards, or younger versions of existing cards, which were printed after the original cards and not before. In this list were to go over summon the best cards in the game, which were supposed to be de-evolutions of their original counterparts to be weaker, but on some occasions actually surpassed their original inspirations in playability.
Script by hiru
-The List-
Intro: (0:00)
10-Elemental HERO Neos Alias: (0:19)
9- Lightning Vortex: (2:15)
8-Foolish Burial Goods: (3:16)
7- D.D.R. Different Dimension Reincarnation: (4:32)
6- Mind Control: (5:48)
5- Pot Of Prosperity: (7:06)
4- Appointer of the Red Lotus : (9:03)
3- Curious Lightsworn Dominion: (11:06)
2- Return From The Different Dimension: (13:14)
1- Grinder Golem: (14:42)
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I disagree with foolish burial goods being a weaker reprint, by nature of the cards they’re completely different. Unlike Lightning Vortex and and Raigeki you’d never use burial goods in place of foolish burial.
It’s more like an homage to Foolish Burial
Yeah but the theme is the same. And weaker. Lots of these cards were never really used in place of their evolved version.
Unless sending ice barrier I guess but still, the context of the card is def different.
Can agree that its a retrain though, similar to the jar series they're not replacements for one another imo
Fled coming in lecturing youtubers - you right though
Sending a spell card to the graveyard isnt as powerful as sending a monster to the graveyard overall. I believe a stronger point to argue would be foolish burial goods isnt a retrain of foolish burial.
Edit: i believe an actual retrain would be, "send 1 monster from deck to grave, but, you cant use effects of that monster until your next turn". This is a weaker retrain
I'd call Burial Goods a side evolution. It does basically the same thing but for the opposing card types
I think it’s only a “downgrade” because it’s a hard once per turn. Not entirely sure though.
Yeah, Peaceful Burial is an actual downgrade - it's a trap, hopt and you can't use sent monster's effect
@@dabbingperson9236 that would be the sticking point, but it isnt like Lightray Grepher that is not only a side, but also a downgrade
A direct downgrade would be peaceful burial, a trap that lets send a monster but not activate its effect
@@crayons8693 and like everyone else, I forgot that one
I'd also add Metaverse in here. It has downgrade from Terraforming in that it's a Trap that needs to be set first and is therefore slower. But the fact that you activated it on your opponent's turn made it busted as hell for Mystic Mine decks
Hell of a good thing for us Toon players to get kingdom back up.
As a Labryntj player its just a terraforming when i have one if my monster in my hand xD
Sometimes, being a Trap Card is better than being a Spell Card.
Top 10 strongest cards that were low rarity in their debut pack. Would be interesting to see which "pack filler" cards ended up being the most impactful. One example I can think off the top of my head is performapal monkeyboard which was originally common
Pankratops
So basically Dino rabbit vanillas
Skull Servant
Gren maju da eiza
chaos sorcerer being common in IOC was obscene
By the time we're on Master Rule 54, DuelLogs will still be writing Konami as "Konomi"
I bet he's gonna write it as Korone soon to see who notices
@@HazeEmry Ko'one*
10:27 Knightmare Griffin is looking a lot different from what I remember lol
lol oops
If Griffon was a Link-2 I'd shid and fard
Love how this channel always just tells you straight up what’s going down and gets right into it, no fooling around 👍🏽👍🏽
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I feel like Beatrice is more fitting to be a de-evolution card for Lavalval Chain than Curious
Right the 3 card mill alone makes it kinda better imo. Because you still can foolish what you like and then on top of that get 3 more in grave. Seems better honestly
They both are, I just talked about the one which was better of the 2, which was Curious.
@@TheDuelLogs 100% see where you are coming from. Definitely fits the motto to mention both, as both have very similar effects.
I thought that was curious, too.
I'll see myself out.
Lavalval shouldve been locked by fire as material 😭
Everyone abuse him and we fire duelist dont get to use him
Another interesting one might be cards which used to be weaker than other cards with similar effects, but as the game progressed actually became more powerful. E.g. Heavy Storm remained legal long after Harpie's Feather Duster was originally banned, but today HS remains banned whilst HFD is now merely limited, because potentially destroying your own backrow as well is often now a benefit rather than a cost. Same story with Premature Burial being legal for some time after Monster Reborn was banned, but being still banned now whilst Reborn is back at 1, cuz of its potential to be looped back to the hand again and again.
I wonder what decks would benefit from Heavy Storm the best and possibly broken if it became legal once more. Runick comes to mind certainly.
@@jvsonic2468 It also would mean that you could use the usual nasty floodgates on your opponent's turn like TKBOO, Gozen Match etc. and then remove them on your own turn, which would be evil
@@nyecrozier8663 those and other floodgates like them are evil from the get-go anyway. Those need to be at least limited. Master Duel is already on it's way to do so as some of those cards are on their radar (in the Semi-Limit list)
@@nyecrozier8663 if a deck is playing floodgates, it means it can easily play under them as well.
Premature Burial got banned because of Hidden Armory being able to search it out. At that point, the TCG and OCG largely shared a ban list so the OCG at that time was in Synchro era so being able to repeatedly get back Synchro materials was pretty broken and these days, you can add Xyz and Link monsters to the mix. It's the nature of the card that makes it broken on top of a really strong effect (the fact it's an Equip Spell so it benefits from Equip Spell support, the fact it's effect only destroys the monster it's equipped to if the card is actually destroyed rather than just removed from the field and of course no hard once per turn which wasn't really a thing back then). Heavy Storm has the floodgate interactions. Being able to turn off your own floodgates while also being able to wipe your opponent's back-row for no real cost is pretty broken. Not to mention being able to trigger your own back-row floating effects.
Akashic can't use token as material. But still, you can link into Link Spider before summoning Akashic Magician.
1:07 as a suggestion for future videos; it would’ve been nice if you’d displayed an example of a Neos fusion monster here.
There's literally one on-screen starting at 1:05, Elemental Hero Air Neos. Your comment is the time when it leaves the screen. What is this suggestion even?
@@kennyrichardson3842 It’s a joke.
Specifically, about how Konami, with no official explanation, appears to be pretending like Air Neos never existed. It’s never been re-printed, and doesn’t appear in recent games like Master Duel. The joke, then is in pretending like it doesn’t exist and can’t be seen.
@@kennyrichardson3842>he doesn't know
@@kennyrichardson3842 i have never heard of an elemental hero air neos, are you sure it exists?
@@Hempujonsito Clueless
Ah good old Grinder Golem...
My brother used it as fuel for a Relinquished/Thousand eyes restrict deck that annihilated me and many others...
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Tuning. You can add any Synchron Tuner from your deck and mill the same number of cards from your deck as the level of the monster instead of just 1 card.
This was such an interesting topic honestly, amazing video!
Good vid as always. I was surprised there was no mention of brilliant fusion and gem-knight fusion
I rlly love these types of Videos man
hey just found your channel and love the content. couldn't help but notice the lack of dragon coverage though haha kinda weird. feel like talking about some of the best extra deck dragons in history would defiantly kindle some fans for the channel to grow.
Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Top 10 Cards that special summon monsters, but for the rest of the turn after the effect resolves you cannot special summon monsters except for Level/Rank/Link 2 Monsters
tell me you want to see sprights tech without telling me you wanna see sprights tech
XD
Surprised he didn't mention how Prosperity allows to still use your Extra Deck since it lets you pick which monsters to banish, as opposed to Extravagance which randomly banishes cards from the Extra Deck.
Yeah that’s a big difference, prosperity is for decks that still need their extra deck and extravagance is for stuff like Elditch
People still used their extra deck with extravagance before prosperity was released banking on the idea that their important pieces wouldn’t be banished off of it similar to people using desires. Not a common practice because u can also just run desires but still
He did mention this at the end of explaining the pot cards
@@ryansanagustin6553 Using Extravagance like that was sort of restrictive on Extra Deck building. You'd need to run multiple copies of key cards to lower the chances of losing out on key cards. Extravagance is really good for Decks that don't need to summon from the Extra Deck since it could essentially be used as a draw engine. Desires is largely one of those cards that Decks need to run rather than one they want to run. A few exceptions exist like in Gren Maju Decks.
@@ShiningJudgment666 I agree with u wholeheartedly but that’s not really the point I’m trying to make. I’m just saying a sizeable amount of people have run extravagance while using their extra deck as part of their combo, but people would find it easier to use desires for draw if they need their extra since it’s less risky.
Love your videos man, very fun
I was happy to see Lightning Vortex on the list. I put that card in pretty much all of my decks.
Also, for Foolish Burial Goods, you could send Shaddoll Core to get a Shaddoll Spell/Trap back to your hand so you could get Shaddoll Fusion and fusion summon from your deck or Shaddoll Schism if it was popped and use your graveyard and sends an opponent's monster to the graveyard that shares the attribute as the fusion monster
3:14 the Discard can help you out much depending on your Build, like in Fable Decks.
Yeah especially during Goat for Chaos builds.
I bet that zombie dude on the artwork for Overdone Burial is all like "bruh, okay, I think you can just bury me for real now." Lmao.
#1 - In the long run, who could have guessed THAT would be Yubel's strongest card?
Thanks for the videos brother now I can make my Inferno tempest deck much trigger much easier than before
People use prosperity over extravagance not just because you dig through 6 cards, but because you choose what to banish. That's enough of a change that makes it see use since that's better than randomly banishing.
Damn, I’ve watched over 20 videos and never noticed I wasn’t subscribed.
There is an Editing mistake around 1:06 where there is a Black Square in the middle. I guess this things can happen from.time to time
Appointer of the Red Lotus is better than Trap Dustshoot. You can banish searchable 1-of cards (for exmple a Salamangreat Gazelle) or an engine card you know they only have one of and make it so they can't search it out anymore. That is way better than shuffling one back permanently.
I used Grinder Golem as a tech in my janky relinquished decks way back in the day..... my boy had such a glow up......
Neos Alius lived up to the Neos name well. Versatile, always ready to fight, and contacting with Everything.
I feel like half your life points is less costly than a exact amount because you can always cut your life points in half
You hit Number 10 right on the head. It's used for everything but the actual effect.
Pot of duality was actually semi-limited at one point. It did saw competitive play during the late synchro era all the way up to qliphorts. However, it slowly fazed out due to being unable to special summon and the high speed of the game.
Neos Alius is one of my fav cards, i just love the artwork
This list was mixed. Some were good some not that good. Imo foolish burial goods and ddr are inspired by foolish burial and premature but not deevolution... just a different focus/nature. Monster Reincarnation x Monster Reborn was another example as well.
I would suggest top 10 "unlimited atks"... something that get attack based on X monsters on Graveyard/Banished something like this...
Some monsters: Rage of Deep Sea, Gren Maju da Eiza, Buster Blader...
Despite the silly loops, I still think #1 should be swapped with #2, but otherwise I definitely expected a good chunk of this list due to how prolific some of these "weaker versions" are
10:24 yup that's Knightmare Gryphon alright
Fusion of Fire is also a much weaker version of Super Polymerization.
Never seen grinder golem, that's a crazy card!
Grinder Golem was very useful once in the past in a niche OTK (Evil Hero Dark Gaia), because of its stats.
1. Level 8 - cost for Trade-In/Advance Draw.
2. Fiend with 3000 ATK - serviceable ATK for that time as fusion material for Dark Gaia.
3. DARK attribute has decent support. You could "Allure of Darkness" to get your other combo pieces.
4. can use Creature Swap to get your Golem back and give your opponent a 0 ATK monster ripe for attacks.
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Both Alius and Lightning Vortex are staples of my Duel Links decks. Alius is a really cheap to get and the 1900 Attack is still one of the best for 4-Stars. Lightning Storm is a great comeback card which has saved my butt from a field of Monsters tons of times.
I can recommend a good level 4 for Duel Links. Alexandrite Dragon is a rather good beatstick but it lacks defense.
@whissan5979 Yeah but it has no protection though
man I hate that facedown attack position isnt a thing anymore I love janky stuff
Ah, the Grinder Golem bounce house. Makes perfect sense that it got on the list
really interesting
D.D.R seems like it may be a de-evolution of Return from the Different Dimension as well (or possibly a fusion de-evolution), as D.D.R in reverse is R.D.D (Return Different Dimension) and they both summon banished monsters, with D.D.R being restricted to only one while R.D.D has no limit to the number of monsters it could summon.
Weaker can sometimes be stronger when put in the right one. 😎😎
I might be confused but, Duelogs said Knightmare Gryphon and Gryphon's Effect; but the card Shown was Phoenix which is the one that destroys a S/T by discarding one card.
Otherwise fascinating video.
Custom card Idea for a devolution of Curious. A Link 4/5 which requires the exact amount of monsters as the link ranking one of the monsters used has to be a Fusion/Ritual/Synchro/XYZ monster and all the monsters have to have different names or levels/ranks.
Idea: Worst monsters that can’t be tributed (by your opponent, you, or both)
Idea 2: Best cards that Reborn to your opponents field.
Dude lightning storm is a game changer why did I never know this card existed?
You’d think this would be everywhere with how much people love raigeki
With quite a few archetypes that benefit from discarding, it's interesting to now see a de-evolved card become more valuable than the once banned predecessor.
hey just got a crazy idea, top ten synchro dragons of all time!!!!! feel like the fans would get a real kick
I remember how i created a golem based deck run 3x grinder golem and a trap where i can get it back. I never thought it will be so broken someday. I have this old deck still around
You missed the best part of Prosperity imo, that you get to choose the Extra Deck cards. Having to banish at random with Extrav heavily punished playing all 1-ofs, meaning the only decks that could play it without heavy drawback had EDs with everything at 2-3 copies. By being able to choose with Prosp you could play powerful 1-of cards without fear of accidentally banishing them.
the spiral line with curious into nightmare gryphon to set up red lotus haha.
1:05 it's him! It's missing the bird
When are you gonna cover more of the best ranks? I’m waiting for best rank 6 monsters. Wave high king Caesar better be up there lol
You haven't done top ten flip monsters yet
I really like big eye
As sorting top 5 cards of your deck is great
I think card be broken if wasn't a flip monster
Foolish Burial goods is more of a sidegrade. A true downgrade to Floosh Burial would be Soothing Burial as it does the same thing, but is on a trap and prevents you from using effects of the monster sent for that turn
Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like there are so many graveyard, return from grave, negate and search effects in the game that Confiscation could come off the ban list at one copy and probably do next to nothing. You would have more of a hard time deciding which card to send to the graveyard than actually feeling inconvenienced or disadvantaged since you could cycle it back without too much trouble. It just feels like it has been outclassed at this point with hand traps able to also put a stop to it as well. I feel like it would be just like Change of Heart.
but as mentioned in the video, it's more of a tool nowadays to get RID of handtraps, rather than actual value cards like back in the good old days.
I always thought that Appointer of Red Lotus was actually distant cousin from the card Lightforce Sword which does the same but you dont pay life points, do not look at the hand and returns after 3 turns. Not sure where to put that card as in related to any other.
Video idea: top 10 cards that have alternative artworks.
I didn't know Grinder Golem was so powerful but it makes a lot of sense now.
About pot of prosperity vs pot of extrav :
Extrav banishes randomly from the extra deck, whereas with prosperity you can choose what you banish, which is incredibly better as you remove the burden of seeing your most important card getting randomly banished like you did with pot of desires
Top 10 decks most powerful in duel links history plz
I enjoy that Lightning Vortex was both on this list and the Worst Retrains list
Top 10 Archtypes that focus on a type of gameplay.
Like, top cards that want to be banished, cards you want to STAY in the deck, cards to be destroyed by a card effect. Etc
Video Idea, Top 10 Generic Floodgates (I dont remember if is already one video about that)
I run 3 FBGs in my umi control. It fits the deck swimmingly
Bit funny if they bring grinder golem but stop you from you using the tokens to sp s any monsters from the Extra deck at all and you can't atk with the tokens at all
You could add Anti-Spell vs Imperial Order in a future video
I'd like to see top 10 cards that are more beneficial or benefit your opponent more than you when played
Make a list for cards that target single specific cards like gryphon feather duster and that pot of greed monster. Or w/e its called. Jar robber? Etc
Let's get a list of the best "000" cards of each set! Like how Jinzo PSV-000 was incredible! Whereas Vortex the Whirlwind STOR-000 never saw play!
Jinzo was game-defining back in the day.
List ideas:
Top 10 rank up spells
Top 10 cards that could come off the banlist.
Top 10 cards that see play outside of their archetype
Top 10 cards that don't fit in their archetypes
Top 10 extra deck monsters that require other extra deck monsters
Top 10 splashable extra deck monsters for each type
Top 10 worst mill cards
Top 10 cards that show actual cards
Top 10 stall cards.
Top 10 generic pendulum cards.
Top 10 special conditions in the games.
More Rescue Rabbit, please.
Are there even 10 rank up spells?
Hold up, Dimension Fusion during the Chaos Era (Chaos Return, I think that was first ban list) was actually considered a Trash UR since it would give back your opponents cards permanently and everyone was basically running the same cards anyway. So unless you had a Raigeki the card was too advantageous for your opponent, RftDD was seen as the stronger card since it gave you an open field to attack for game.
I always looked at D.D.R. as a retrain of Return From the Different Dimension. Instead of flooding the field with 5 monsters, you have to choose 1 without the restriction that it had to be 1500 ATK or less.
Nevermind
Lightning vortex can actually setup some good plays sometimes. I run it in specifically Synchrons because why not.
Crazy how Raigeki is unlimited now lol
Praying for a de-evolution of some of the banned link monsters like Union Carrier, Verte Anaconda, and Halqifibrax. Beyond the Pendulum does an okay job replacing Electrumite
Oh yeah salvation just released in master duel, it's the only rainbow bridge I don't know anything about since it's not in the structure deck...
I would compare ddr also to escape from the dark dimension. mind control to brain control in addition as well. Especially since brain control got an errata making it weaker while it already had more restrictions then change of heart that is now unbanned.
2:32 It’s not a downgrade. It’s the Regeki version of “Dark World lightning.”
Just like dark world lightning, it’s a copy of a previous lightning art spell card that was a famous removal card back in the day, with the added caveat of “you discard 1 card.” Like I said I predict they did this not just so they would be illegal for Jackie in the game but also so that this car could be used in synergy with dark world decks.
It’s basically a second Radecki but because I’m assuming it came out at the same time as yugioh GX card you showed before it was an elemental hero card and because this card has a discard effect and mimics a classic lightning removal spell, just like DW lightning. The Dark World archetype also came out during the GX era(in season 3 Bronn kills most of Jaidens friends ❤️)
Video idea: Top 10 Shaddoll cards
Best deck archetype for each summing condition.
i atopped playing after gx, tried to get back when xyz summons were new. pendulum and link juat broke my resolve to even try to comprehend the rules anymore. still nice to watch these videos though
Metaverse - De-evolution of Terraforming, Trap card so slower however surprising a field spell on your opponent's turn got it limited/banned while mystic mine was legal
Call of the Haunted - De-evolution of Monster reborn, Trap card and SS from only your GY and in Attack position, however it being continuous and no "if this card leaves the field" means you can bounce it and use it again
That's all I got right now
I love the fact that these cards were meant to be weaker versions yet somehow players found ways to make them really powerful. Talks about how creative Yu-Gi-Oh can be, regardless if many complain about the meta so much.
My number 2 didn't even make the list, (maybe its on your banlist), but Heavy Storm 100% should be on the list. It was supposed to be a deevolution of Hapries Featherduster, but nowadays it is considered much stronger.
I have some of these cards on this list.
Even though its been banned for a while now, that Grinder Golem sequence just sums up modern yugioh right there, except without the part where Ash blossom crushes your hopes and dreams in an instant
hand traps, combos so absurdly big takes up most of the time spent in a single duel, and kaijus
it really grinds my gears ngl
The Grinder Golem sequence is absolutely tiny compared to most sequences. It's also extremely powerful at setting up long sequences though.
Do Top 10 Red Eyes Cards.
That dry sarcasm on #10 😂😂😂
Did you make a video for top cards that are not hard once per turns yet?
Return from a different dimension and dimension fusion, were printed around the same time. Its not exactly a de-evolution just another variant
10:26 you mention Gryphon but the image show Phoenix. HazukaSHII