Ian Brady and Myra Hindley: THE END: Part 3
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Myra was just as bad as Ian. I do feel very sorry for David, though. He was only 16 when Ian started trying to pull him into this. And he didn't realize what was going on soon enough, but at least when he found out that those two nut jobs were killing people he put a stop to it. It ruined his life, but at least he saved the lives of countless other people that would have no doubt been murdered if they had been allowed to continue.
rip Brady and Hindley 🙏🏻
I feel so sorry for David and Maureen, guilty by association. If it hadn't been for them more children would have died, whatever mistakes they made and clues they overlooked they didn't deserve what happened to them. RIP.
I feel kinda sorry for David Smith in this situation. I dunno. Must've been traumatising, and he went to the police straight away. Without him, they may have never been caught.
Agreed. (I would've died trying to get out of that house, instead of helping them as David felt he needed to do for his safety, but he did stop their crimes.)
Read his book, if you have not. The torment the public put him through afterwards was absolutely disgusting
He went on to killing his own father a few years later, I think he claimed it was an assisted suicide.
I just read up on it, and your right, it wasn't murder, I apologise, and he only served two days before being immediately released.
@Abbie Hunter I wondered about that. I imagine he was. How could he have taken on 2 killers? I don't know , i've never been in that situation so I am trying to see his point of view. There's no evidence linking him with Lesley or anyone except Edward. But wouldn't Hindley have killed him if he got involved? That might have meant getting close to her man and taking him
The prison guard pouring salt in her tea is my level of petty 👏👏
Yesss, I thought the same xD
😂😂😂
Yes!
Haha XD Right!? This pleased me greatly :D
Lol they were probably spitting in her food everyday
I haven't been able to get the murder of Lesley Ann Downey out of my head since the last episode. I can't contemplate the horror that girl went through and the idea of her mother having to listen to that tape is heartbreaking. Anyone who could hear those pleas and not do anything to stop it is pure evil. No question Hindley was every bit as guilty as Brady.
And she did it all for a man! (Had it been the other way around I would be saying he did it all for a woman.)
Leslie's step father said that, that tape haunts him to this day he has not slept a full night since they had to listen to that tape. I feel for anyone who had to listen to it.
Tom Ripley I too have always found the thought of that tape really horrifying!! Don’t know how you ever come to terms with knowing your child was murdered so cruelly whilst calling out for you!!!
My daughter has leukaemia the thought of losing her is unbearable!! But if that happens at least I’ll know that many good people have done all they can to make her well, she’s received 10s of 1000s in treatment, transplants etc & been seen by some of best Drs in the world!! Thank God for health care, pray you all have it in USA ASAP ✊♥️♥️♥️
100% agree
I know 😔
I totally believe Myra was every bit as guilty. And just as much of an accomplished liar. I was struck by her concern for her hair and her request for make-up. It immediately reminded me of Jodi Arias. Wow.
Myra was guilty as hell and would have kept killing. The way she lured the kids to their deaths then gloated over their graves made me sick.
So, there’s a psychological theory called “fleas” which basically means the abusee takes on traits of the abuser as a means to protect themselves. However, if a moral compass isn’t there the proclivity for violence is much more prevalent. So while she may not have been as evil as Ian in the beginning, she had to have had a disposition for psychopathy to do the things she did.
I didnt know that it was called this, but I'm so glad I saw your comment. I feel like it's an accurate theory. I know I have done it myself in the past, in abusive relationships. But I took on the traits to defend myself against the abuser.
Great point, and I could definitely see that in this case. You would need to have something internally askew to go along with such horror for so long, and after wards as well.
Not surprised that Myra and Ian had gotten beaten up in prison. The one thing inmates hate with a passion is anyone who would harm a child.
people outside courthouse: “CHILD KILLER, MONSTERS!!!”
Myra: **surprised Pikachu face**
Thank you for covering this, Stephanie. I am from the UK and this case was ever present when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s. I remember reading that after Myra Hindley was convicted, the name Myra virtually vanished from use in the UK when naming girls, such was the disgust about her involvement in these murders. She singlehandedly demolished the notion that children would be safe in the company of women.
I am actually pleased that Ian Brady’s life was sustained for as long as it was, as it was against his wishes. He was ill for a long time and death would have been an easy way out of his physical suffering. He had wanted to die for years, but the authorities wouldn’t give him that satisfaction and ruled against him. Brady thought he was so clever making out he had paranoid schizophrenia so he would be moved from the harsh conditions of a maximum security prison to an easier life in a secure mental hospital. This worked in his favour until he wanted to end his life when it backfired. He tried to argue he did not in fact have paranoid schizophrenia, but was ruled against, kept in the hospital and force fed food against his wishes.
He had the gall to whinge about being treated like an animal and having his rights taken away. As a UK taxpayer, I was more than happy for my money to go towards prolonging his agony.
Similarly, Brady wanted his ashes to be spread over Saddleworth Moor - how sick and such an insult to his victims. Fortunately, the authorities went against his wishes again and he was buried at sea.
I am with you - there is no way Myra wasn’t wholly involved in all those murders, and I’m glad she spent the rest of her life in prison.
I always felt sorry for David Smith. He did what he could to stop those two at the first opportunity and if it wasn’t for him, there would be more victims. His story always added up for me and he suffered terribly. I suspect it was partly because he was a bad boy (which doesn’t make you a child murderer) and also because the public could not access Brady and Hindley, so they took out their anger on Smith instead.
I am looking forward to this before bed
I laughed so hard! I was gonna make the same comment!!
😂😂😂
Myra is a horrible monster
I wanna know why her cell looks like a decorated bedroom! Printed sheets and all! Haha I don't get it!
@@mommy2rae586 I was puzzled by that too tbh but lifers maybe got to be able to make things look more pleasing to them..
“Instead (the prison guard ) gave her a cup of tea with salt in it.” Petty... but that’s the kind of pettiness I respect. “Oh girl don’t worry, you’re going somewhere.” Stephenie, your sass is a breath of fresh air. Much appreciated😂😍
Pressed Between the Pages she’s going somewhere hot where her dark roots will show for an eternity bwhahahaha
Stephanie Harlowe she has much bigger problems than those dark roots now ... it’s a shame England got rid of the death penalty before they got her.
Should you ever decide to cover (some of) the lives aboard the Titanic I would be eternally grateful
Lindsay Brewer oh my god. Yes.
I would LOVE this!
Brilliant idea did this happen? I'm New
Lindsay Brewer ooooh good one
Sarah North Wales
Not yet;)
Myra did it, plain and simple. She was obsessed with Ian and the thought of "if I did this, he would love me more". Just my opinion
they're both guilty. She may not have laid down the fatal blow but she brought him victims she cleaned up the seen. She is 100% guilty
This case has always frustrated me, because Ian was clearly the instigator, but Myra seems to be the one luring the children to their deaths. That is just as bad, as evil, as Ian actually murdering them. But there's this idea that the submissive personality in murder partnerships is somehow less culpable.
Myra knew what was going on. She understood exactly what Ian was doing to those children. Whether or not she participated shouldn't matter. She helped him find victims. She didn't do anything to stop him. She didn't drop hints or attempt to bring it up in other ways. She actively helped him hide evidence afterward, and was clearly participating in the planning and finding victims.
Absolutely ..... thanks I was struggling with conflicting emotions , you said it perfectly .
ladyblakeney Hear hear! Evil woman.
Myra was tough as old boots, I don’t think she was ever subservient to anyone (except maybe in the bedroom with Ian 🤢)
Exactly like never even mentioned abuse or the killings to her sister??? David went to his wife the SECOND he came home. Like come on. I call bullshit
oh Myra was totally evil. If she would have been released, unfortunately she'd have gotten a similar "golden handshake" as James Bulger's killers got.
Definitely. By itself, her concern for her appearance when she was awaiting trial is telling. She was a heartless beach.
There was no way she was ever going to be released - there would have been a lynch mob waiting at the door. It was safer for her to remain in prison. The only reason James Bulgers killers were released was because of their age. There's another infamous child killer, Mary Bell, who was successfully rehabilitated & released.
James Bulger's killers were 10-year-old children. Bad ones, certainly, but it’s not comparable to an adult woman of 21-23 when these crimes were committed.
Yes. She was just as guilty ABSOLUTELY!! Thank you so much for your hard work.
A cup of tea with salt in it, LOL.
Khanh Nguyen 😂😂😂 it’s the little things
Whenever someone gets "sacked" in a restaurant you test all the sugar bowles. It is standard practice for waiters who have been dismissed to salt the sugar in revenge.
Myra Hindley was like Karla Holmoka. She was no innocent.
I think Myra was both. Dark and cold in her heart but also obsessed with Ian and he used her obsession to manipulate and mold her inner evil to his liking. Maybe a little “Like speaks to Like” type situation. Their evil was magnetically charged and they collided.
It's disturbing enough to see a loved one dead, can't begin to comprehend the pain of seeing your child in that state after death. What the murderer's did is beyond us..
“We can’t prosecute them anymore, so there’s no point.” 😳 what?! It’s not about that ! Not for the family. That’s horrible. It’s so bizarre that they would confess to Pauline and John and disclose where their body’s were, but then arbitrarily decide not to do the same for Keith. How does it benefit them to hold back on that one child? No, Myra wasn’t innocent. Was she abused by Ian? Maybe. But she was desperate to have the favor of this evil person, even to the point of participating in child murder. That little detail about her shoes from sam’s murder -no blood inside the shoes, but arterial blood outside-says to me that there’s a good chance she was present for the other murders, too; that and her voice on the Leslie Downey tape. And even if she never personally harmed the kids-I don’t believe that, personally-but even if she didn’t, she was still willing to be the bait that drew these kids in, knowing full well what was going to happen to them when they came with her. That all by itself makes her just as guilty as Ian in my book.
The lack of empathy and compassion there is pretty shocking
It's something that you come across with concerning frequency - yes, this serial killer murdered X number of people, but we're only going to prosecute them for a. the death penalty victim, b. the victims we think we can definitely win, c. victims we can try to prosecute later if we lose the first attempt. So the victims that don't get prosecuted are still officially classified as unsolved.
Brady loved the attention & feeling that he knew more than anyone else, which is usually thought to be why he refused to say where Keith Bennett was buried. He had the police take him out onto the moors under the pretence of disclosing more burial sites, but he never gave them any actual locations or usable information.
No matter what Myra said, there's no way that she wasn't a participant. However, given her possessiveness of Ian when he started to test David & try to indoctrinate him in the same way he had Myra, I wondered if maybe she left him to do certain things himself - kind of a 'shouldn't I be enough' type thing, which in turn could have fuelled her viciousness towards the victims. She certainly was self-centered enough.
Lynn Richardson that is an excellent point. I had not considered that he might be using Kieth’s location as a final power trip... there’s a real special place in hell for people like Ian Brady 😳
Doesn’t matter if they can’t prosecute them, let HIM HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE SUITCASES!
Myra was as guilty as Ian was, even if she was abused, she was in touch with her family and had access to help and support all the time. She didn't oppose Ian not because she couldn't but because she was a willing accomplice.
I loved this case, thank you. Please cover Fred and Rosemary West soon!
takemeaway Yes! I said this on the first part of this series (it’s a close case to me as I live startlingly near to where it all happened and I was only a baby when things were being discovered!)
@Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter They are my role models for my serial killer career 🙄
@Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter bad phasing im guessing or rather serverly hoping.
@@takemeaway285 dude to far.
I'd probably think about editing this. Because you'll get linched here. It's a horrifying case so to say "love" is a really really bad way of explaining your thought.
Maybe say you respect how the story and trail was explained and research incredibly well. But yeah AVOID love.... that just wrong
9:59 I can't imagine literally poking around and sniffing for a body... What a horrifying event
Yeah! That made me grimace, I can't even imagine having to do that. 😳
In Mexico that is the way women who are looking for disappeared family members search fields were they get word that bodies have been buried.
Myra was 100% a cold blooded killer. Looking at my precious babies after watching makes my heart ache so much for those children who lost their lives in the most horrifying way possible. These people were beyond evil.
Who knows how many other people like this are out there, who never get caught.
I think about that ALL THE TIME
I don’t understand why they treated David that bad when he was the reason they were caught
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For some reason I have always found it very hard to picture Myra and Ian in social settings. To me it's like they existed in a vacuum of their own.
Does that make sense??
Maureen Wambui I think that’s how they felt, too
@@StephanieHarlowe, can you cover David Koresh & the Branch Davidians in Waco, TX?
You know that saying...nature abhors a vacuum.
Yay! About to go to sleep and I see this from Stephanie. Always look forward to your videos. You’re the best! All the way from Australia!
Me too! Melb!
Myra was just as evil as Ian. If she had never met Ian, she may have never killed kids but I can see her being a very abusive, and neglectful person. I do believe Ian did manipulate her too, though. He had control over her, BUT she loved it. She wanted him to have that control because, in my opinion, she thought that was love.
Jessi Campbell I agree!!
Like another Karla Homolka IMO 😕
Yes, it's clear she was in love with Ian as soon as she met him at work. She would've done anything for him. Her stalking of him at the beginning of their co-working tells me that!!
The one thing Ian Brady did well in my opinion was to ensure that Myra didn't get out of prison. It makes me so angry that Karla Homolka managed to get out after only 12 years when she was just as bad if not worse than Paul Bernardo. And I think Myra was the same, so I'm glad at least she had to rot in prison till her last dying breath.
I love the October plan! Harloween 2019!
Rainbou yes! Can’t wait!
Loved this series Steph! A suggestion for your next cult series, I think a series on Warren Jeff's and the FLDS would be interesting.
That would be so awesome
Yes he is down right creepy.
Oh my God yes please!
Just finished watching this series. I live in the UK, was born in 1983, and this case is very well known here. I'd like to thank you for being so respectful towards the victims and their families, that's one thing I love about your videos. You clearly research the cases thoroughly and never victim blame. What Brady and Hindley did was horrific, it rocked the nation and we still mourn those children. I hope one day Keith will be found, so that he can be laid to rest with the respect and dignity he deserves. This highlights the stranger danger, that it isn't just unknown men we need to warn our children of. They should have locked those 2 up and left them to die slowly, not fed them and allowed them to reach old age. Why treat them with such humanity when they were so unworthy of it? Absolutely heartbreaking x
It's sad that David and Marueen's lives were ruined because they did the right thing and went to the police.
Any man who would harm a child isn't worth fighting for. Why couldn't Myra see that?
No part of me thinks for even a red-hot second that Myra Hindley was just being manipulated or was in any way doing anything against her will or better judgment. I'm 100% positive she was just evil, she knew what she was doing and she did it anyway because she liked it.
I can't wait for the Halloween uploads. I also want to thank you so much for everything that you do to produce these videos, please never stop making these long videos in multiple parts because when you cover the story with all the details it shows so much respect and care for those who were affected.
Yeeessss!!! I will take son to work at 2pm then that's me sorted for the afternoon, this makes me very happy, very happy indeed 💜😘 x
Some people act like this is fiction rather than fact.
So sad how David was treated afterwards when he did nothing but go and report what they did.
My husky's birthday is 9 may, he turned five this year. He's such a good boy, I love him so much!
Aw that's my birthday! 🤗
@@hannahkennedy24 Cool, you are birthday buddies!
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No makeup for you just tea with salt !!! 😂
This 3 part story was my introduction to this channel and I just gotta say- Stephanie is Really good at narrating these things- she obv. has respect for the subject matter but still keeps it "entertaining"
Thank you so much, Gina! I'm glad you found my channel and this community. We are happy to have you!
Me: it's bed time..
*Notification from Stephanie
Also me: Put some tea on, I'm staying up!
Ozgirl Kerrie are you a fellow Aussie? Same thing happened to me haha
Love you guys!
I love how the prison guard was so politely mean to her by giving her tea with salt hahaha you gotta love the british
Just sat down with a cup of tea and this pops up! Perfect timing😊
I love when you're watching one of Stephanie's old videos (while drinking tea!) and she posts a new one you've been waiting for half way through :)
Such an awesome idea for Harloween! Looking forward to it sweety😘
"Myra in her cell. Trying to look innocent." That was my favorite thing. And asking the guard for makeup *pours salt in her tea* I really really hope they are able to find that little boys body one day. His remaining family deserves to know and I find it reprehensible that they would say finding his body doesn't matter anymore now that the killers are dead.
Why does Myra’s prison cell look like a dorm room?! That’s weird.
I’m in the UK and used to work in the Prison Service for England & Wales. Women’s prisons here are quite soft. The prisoners wear their own clothes, and they have access to hairdressers, nail varnish and make-up. They don’t have cells, they have rooms, and in their rooms they can have a little desk and a bookshelf, a modern private toilet, windows with vertical sections but no bars on them, and the prisoners can have their own pretty duvet covers and curtains and rugs and lots of personal possessions, like a TV and family photos etc. The photo in the video was of the original Holloway prison which was built like a stone castle, but the Government built a new modern Holloway Prison to replace it, which I visited during the 1980s. It was warm and clean inside, with modern plumbing, and it even had tennis courts, gardens for the prisoners to sit in on a sunny day, and a swimming pool. If they prisoners have babies, the babies can live in the prison with their mums. The Government’s reasoning behind all this is that the prisoners’ punishment is that they should lose their liberty, but not their humanity. Personally, I think it’s gone way too far and I would bring back the death penalty.
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree wow. This is taking away half of the whole CONCEPT of prison. It's supposed to be a place you wanna get out of and hopefully never be back again, while suffering for what you've committed. I thought that was the point lmao. We've gone way too far with all this humanism bullshit...
@@Woodman-Spare-that-tree whoa. American prisons are nothing like this. I was in jail for three months (for a nonviolent, accidental illegality) and it was hell on earth. I still have nightmares about it and I have already decided that I will die before I go back. Nail varnish, I fucking never.
You did a great job on Myra and Ian. They are hated to this day, birds of a feather. It’s disgusting how they were allowed to see each other before the trial. Also, Myra was allowed to run around and destroy evidence, before her arrest. That woman was vile, she was Ian’s partner in crime in every sense.
"Left to die like a dog alone in his cell." This is why I love you! You are Savage and always keep it real😘
I kind of believe he was probably violent with her during intercourse, but she still could have left him way before any of the murders so yes both are evil and sick .
7:00 am me: -good morning world-
7:08 am me on youtube: good morning Stephanie
was about to get up and greet the day, then I oop-ed myself right back to the comfort of my bed
LMAO same!
Sounds so good!
There is no way Myra Hindley was innocent! She lured those children to their deaths , no question.
Coffee and stephanie 💗😍💗😍💗😍💗😍💗😍= a perfect morning ! Good morning sleuthanies ☕☕☕☕☕☕☕
Sheila Meador good morning!!! ☀️
Sheila Meador Sleuthanies! I love it!😁
Posted right on time. Ugh I so love you 😫
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You're such a DOLL! The Happy Birthday shout outs are SO SWEET! HAPPY BIRTHDAY MAY BABIES! 💗
I ADORE HALLOWEEN! I'm so excited about your new segment idea!
Yassss!!! I’ve been waiting for this!! They are both absolutely insane. Myra’s willingness to lure children to their deaths is appalling. I don’t think it was just a “spell” she was under either. She’s inherently evil, with or without his influence!! Great series Steph! ❤️
To be fair, the only reason they tried so hard to keep Ian alive (aside from the Hippocratic oath) was because they were hoping and trying to get him to reveal the location of the bodies.
There is an amazing film called “Longford” starring Samantha Morton as Myra Hindley, that explores the relationship between Longford and Hindley.
It’s believed widely that he actually did it because he was infatuated with her and in love with her, (as she had been with Brady). His correspondence and language used wit her in interviews and about her supports this.
It was sickening....he fawned all over and tried everything he could to get her released.....but she just used the old fool 🤯
I do hope they don't give up the search for little Keith's body. Especially with advance technology today. I completely agree with what you said about the case of Keith's brother vs Ian's suitcase. Also not saying I would have been in that crowd calling Ian and Myra childkillers....but that's exactly what I am saying....don't come for me.
I've been waiting for this and listening with my tea. Thank you Stephanie!
I loved watching this series of videos. After I finished watching them I looked into the deaths of Ian and Myra online. I discovered that Ian was declared criminally insane in 1985, and confined in the high security Ashworth hospital where he died at 79. He was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. I found this to be very interesting. Thank you for all of the countless hours of researching you do to bring these stories to life. You do a beautiful job!!
I love these vintage stories. It's so interesting
Myra Hindley formed a strong bond with Rosemary West when the latter was incarcerated in the same prison.
Enough said.
It only lasted about 6 weeks and then they were sworn enemies. Many believe they had a relationship but no proof of it so just a theory I'm putting out there about that bit.
(slightly unrelated: You can still do Slenderman for Harloween: there's a case of two girls who attempted to murder their friend because they thought if they did they could meet Slenderman. Just an idea to mix "creepypasta" and true crime)
I can't say for sure because I don't know Myra at all, but I think the capacity for such thinking was there. Maybe if she never met Ian she might have just been a cold and distant person. Perhaps a touch cruel and aloof, but not so far as killing kids. I think Ian's influence, the insistence that she throw away her morals made everything worse. However, what does it say about her that she was willing to throw away those morals? Like forget Ian's aversion to marriage (I don't think you should compromise on that even if that's what you truly want), but the basic idea that killing a person, a child, for no reason is okay. I've never been in a headspace where I could fathom such a thing so I'm finding it hard to empathize with this idea. In all truth, I'd rather he kill me than kill someone else while I helped or stood by.
Utter respect for David and his bravery .
Please can you cover the Sophie Toscan Du Plantier case... Ian Bailey lives near me and I see him regularly. He was just convicted in France
Have you heard the Audible podcast West Cork about this case? Do you think he did it?
@@12caelestis I have heard it, yes! I definitely think he did it. Because of his arrogance and wanting to be involved with everything. It's almost like he's trying to rub it in people's faces, but he knows that they don't have solid evidence all these years later. Do you think he did it?
Wahhh so behind on my Sitdowns with Stephanie! Good morning! Gonna get comfy, and binge ya before work:))
I absolutely believe that people can be “brain washed” by someone they “admire” ...but like u said, I don’t think that there is anything u can do or say that would convince me to kill. I believe that she is as guilty as they come. She had all the time in the world to do something, and she didn’t. Love ur channel!! This was a great one that I have never heard of!! Can’t wait for ur spoopy suff!! Love me some good old fashion camp fire 🔥 ghost stories!!
This case has become a part of the fabric of British criminal history...my grandmother grew up on the same estate as Myra Hindley near Manchester. They were of a similar age and she often talked to me about what it was like when they were caught in the local area. She said to me once that the kind and respectable friends of her parents who wouldn't say boo to a goose went with the crowds to the courthouse and became like feral monsters, who would have torn them to pieces with their bare hands if they could.
We have never forgotten.
(Also, I would love to series like this about Fred and Rose West. They are viewed in a very similar way to Brady and Hindley. Myra and Rose actually spent a lot of time in the same prisons together) Love your channel by the way!!
A person that has the same story through out the years is telling the truth!! I believe David Smith
When you mentioned doing a video about the Georgia Guidstones I got really excited and had to check if you did. Couldn’t find it, but please make one 😁🙏🏻
i really admire mounsey (think that’s how it’s spelled) for his dedication to john’s case, he never gave up. unlike his superiors who wanted to shut down the search even as they were finding more bodies.
"A cup of tea with salt in it" 🤣☠️ that's a new one for me! Bet I'll be doing this someone who crosses me 😅💯
Thankfully David is finally being viewed as a hero. Of course its way too late and he suffered probably more than the actual killers for years
Was about to go to sleep, then got a notification that Stephanie uploaded. Looks like I’ll be tired in the morning 😂❤️
Ahh!! Stephanie you are the bessttt ♥️ absolutely love waking up to see your uploads. I got my coffee and I’m feeding my son. Such a chill morning ♥️
The fact that a grieving family is denied the right to look everywhere possible to find their loved ones remains is ludicrous! So what if it can't be prosecuted! The point is finding the body for the family to bury
Omg its 5 am where I live and I haven't gone to bed yet but u bet I'm staying up longer to watch the vid!! 💕💕 much love from the Cali Stephanie
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You should do a short series of Where are they now? Like what is Casey Anthony doing now and what has she been up to since the case closed.
Stephanie, perfect as usual 🥰🥰🥰 love it when you upload haha xxxx
In my opinion, Myra was NOT a victim. She was just as evil and twisted as Ian. You can tell when someone is being abused (manipulated). She was more concerned about her hair and make-up. Not buying it for a second. Stephanie, I love listening to your take on all of these crimes. I’m a addicted to your show! I am a single mom of two kids (teens now) and when I get “alone” time I settle in, get comfortable and binge on your crime stories! I’ve never really had an interest in crime stories until I first watched your Gabby Petito case. You do a remarkable job. Most times I’m at the edge of my seat! You should definitely have your own Netflix show! Much appreciation for the time and effort you put into this. Love your passion for true crime! Thank you for all you do! 💕🙏💕
I think Myra was just as guilty as Ian. I’ve researched this a little as well, no where near what you’ve done but what I’ve read was enough to convince me that she was an active participant and had they not been caught so many more children would have been killed. The transcript of what happened to little Lesley still haunts me.
The suitcases should be opened to the public .. It doesnt matter if they are both dead keith's family deserve to know whats in there. There may be stuff about other peoples children in there. We deserve to know
I don’t think he loved her either - she was a useful idiot. I have really enjoyed your insight into this case, thank you ☺️
Agreed!
Yeah psychopaths don't do love.
O she def had a black cold heart & soul... Maybe if she hadnt met him, she wouldnt of killed or even hurt anyone. But she still had it inside her
Yay!!!! Getting my hair dyed and I'm sure this will make the long process pass by 😆
classycassi20 what color???
@@StephanieHarlowe it was ash blonde. I was there for 3 hours 😣
You are so thorough and intelligent, I can't stop watching your videos. Thank you so much for educating the public on the lives of victims who never got a chance to speak. Never stop doing this, please.
Nothing like a morning's bike ride whilst listening to my favorite crime reporter!🤘
Flanigan a-go-go Go you! Taking a bike ride in the morning!
The prison guard putting salt in Myra's tea is objectively hilarious.
Perfect!! I needed this! I was up coughing all night long so I needed this!! FYI, your eye makeup is gorgeous. And I love that you're planning for October already!!
Julia Tovar thank you! I look forward to Fall all year round!
I was in the Met (London) Police Force in 1968. In '70 I transferred to a sex crimes and paedophile unit as one step towards promotion. As part of the induction process we had to view several vile films and listen to the Lesley Ann Downey tape. After about two minutes I stuck my fingers in my ears but couldn't drown out the sound so had to run from the room; I wasn't the first one out either. Needless to say all of us who ran transferred away from that unit at a day's notice. Cowardly I know. There are people who can do it and do but they're much more brave than I could ever be and they have my admiration. Thank you for talking about this case even though it brought tears and bitter memories.
Yay been waiting for this video! Thank you 😊😊😊
Saturday morning coffee is ready, and I can enjoy my cuppa with a new upload from Stephanie. Heck yeah! Halloween is a big deal at our house, too; Harloween will be glorious! 💀 🕸 💀🕸Thanks for everything you do, Stephanie! ❤️🖤❤️🖤
I feel awful for David Smith and his wife. I feel like often times the public demonstrates just as much cruelty as the criminals they are so angry with.
Regarding Myra, I believe she was every bit as guilty as Ian and chose to commit the murders. I think that there is a high likelihood that Ian was rough with her and somewhat abusive, but that she willingly chose to go participate. I think they both were dangerous and deserved to be locked away. The only place where I disagreed with you in this entire video concerned the end of life care for Brady. I believe that if society stoops to the level of behavior that a criminal displays, that perpetuates an attitude of thinking that can be harmful. It's a complicated issue, because the poor families of those children deserve justice and I certainly don't think he should receive better care than what's available to others. But the idea of treating anyone as less than human makes me feel uncomfortable. I often wonder if I'd feel differently if one of my children were victimized, but it's difficult for me to push myself completely into that headspace.
I agree, I think people become unhinged in their anger and disgust.
It’s like with the James Bulger case - it was such an awful crime and the little shits should definitely have been locked up for longer than 8 years. But then you had these full grown adults threatening to murder children - is that really better than two kids murdering a toddler?!
I'm late but I'm here, one of the worst cases for us here, Keith's poor mum left this world never knowing where her baby was buried, I hope one day he will be found and laid to rest with his mum, he has living family so fingers crossed one day mother nature is kind to them.