Project Horizon: America's Military Outpost on the Moon
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Is it brilliant though? They are like the new audible, handing out free trials to anything that movea.
Not to sound like a crazy Democrat in th is day and age, but Russia did come the closest to possibly destroying the world with their test of the 100 Megaton (downgraded to 50) nuke.
The only reason they didn't was because the head of the project replaced the depleted uranium shielding with common lead shielding, thus decreasing the power by 50%.
Thank you Simon for that awesome and scary Megaprojects video. You are a legend.....allegedly.
Do the Panzers of WW2 Germany
Here's an idea for a future video on this channel...Armored Trains. Particularly the ones uses by the polish and russians in WW2, and Trotsky's Armored Train in the Russian Revolution
When you asked "Why don't we have a base on the moon? What went wrong"
The ad break went to a Tik Tok advertisement, and I genuinely thought "Well that kind of answers that question"
😆 You're so spot on, a sad reality for sure.
NASA can't get human tissue through the van allen radiation belts without frying it.
(Look it up!)
Makes me wonder how they did it in '69.
@@edanderson8382 they went around the inner belt and skimmed the weaker part of the outer belt.
Well Tik Tok is based in China, and the CCP wants to be 'the top dog' now, after stealing allot of America's technology. So even slight hints are going to suttle brainwash everyone to think of China.
@@alexanderkubiak537 That's right. Also they were traveling rather quickly and didn't spend much time in the worst of it.
When I first saw it, I really thought that 2001 A Space Odyssey was (partly) a future documentary. It was a given that by 2001 and beyond, we'd have moon bases, orbiting hotels and humans traveling to Jupiter. Now the best we can do is celebrate when two astronauts launch from US soil after 15 years of having to use Russian rockets.
This comments funny showing you know very little about rocket/ shuttle engineering
@@bobbythomas6520 Wha? You think that these types of things (or similar) wouldn't have been realized had we kept going to the moon for 50 years?
New channel idea “The Cold War Channel” that must be a gold mine of subject material for the ever going empire of SimonTube!
As someone who lived through that, I not only endorse this idea, I demand it! As an American, I demand our British ally, Simon, take up this mantle, and perform as he does on other lovely subjects.
Right. Simon, get on with it!
it is a good channel
John Linde
Another American with an ego, so original
@@boglenight1551 It's a joke, not a dick. Don't take it so hard.
On a serious note, I'd love to see such a channel, and would subscribe to it immediately upon knowing it exists. I truly enjoy Simon's delivery, and I love the British accent.
John Linde
Here we have another old homophobic egotistical American who thinks that they can demand things just because they think they’re above everyone else.
Megaproject Suggestion. Longest deep bore ice core in Antarctica. Took years, loads of drama with it and they found some cool stuff like a fresh water lake under the ice containing previously unknown lifeforms. Would go Well with the other hole projects that are popular
Speaking of deep holes, how about the Kidd Mine as well?
The imagination of the people who thought of stuff like this is kinda awe inspiring
If the N1 had worked and the Soviets had landed on the moon first I bet this project would have been fully funded.
Topic idea: The worlds longest/largest bridges. Not just how they were built but how the things to build them were built. How do people decide what types of bridges are best? How do they clean up the mess after a bridge fails like how galloping gurdy did?
@Rebecca Washburn
RE: ". . . like how galloping gurdy did?"
It's Galloping Gertie. NOTE: Gertrude (Gertie) was a common female name at that time.
@@spaceman081447 Oh ok thanks, I have only ever heard the name and had no context for trying to spell it.
@@rebasack21
RE: "Oh ok thanks, I have only ever heard the name and had no context for trying to spell it."
You're welcome.
You should do a mega projects on how you manage all of your channels!
Yes!!!
He's a hired actor.
Speaking of nuclear reactors on the Moon, NASA is looking into that again. On a side note: Conceptual space illustrations are one of my favourite art genres.
Having read The Martian by Andy Weir, this is literally 80% of everything he described in the book....damn...
His second book is on the Moon.
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv
RE: "His second book is on the Moon."
The book is entitled Artemis.
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv That's a long trip to read a book. Is there an e-book version, possibly?
@@jaymzx0 yeah I think you can find a kindle and pdf version of it
@@EthelredHardrede-nz8yv yeah it's called Artemis. Not as good as The Martian but definitely worth a read
Megaprojects might be my favorite channel in the Whistler CZcams Empire for the sole fact that we get to see Simon geek out and it’s fun
Actually you would want the reactors in the same structure as the crew quarters so it can be more easily accessed. As far as radiation a submariner on a US submarine (they are all nuclear these days) receives less radiation on patrol (the nuclear techs included) than they would if they were top side. In fact the folks on the moon base would receive much more of a dose from cosmic radiation than they ever would from having a small well shielded trash can reactor accessible from their quarters.
I know a fellow who was a Navy nuke and if you want to watch him lose his mind just call where he worked as; "Glow in the dark land." He will launch into a diatribe about how just going out in the sun exposes you to more radiation than working engineering on a US Navy nuke sub.
isnt the actual problem the weight of the shielding?
@@TheRomanWolf Short answer, yes. Long answer, one of the best radiation shields is a necessary commodity, water. So the weight penalty can be off set by that. Subs separate the reactor compartment from the forward of the boat with the NFO tank, so we know it works.
after 2020 a mental hospital on the moon wouldn't be a bad idea.
The only question is is the moon big enough ?
Just as well. It would be a _Luna-tic king bomb._
Just don't send people prone to suffering from TDS to the moon?
I wonder if we just need another Cold War to kick off innovation like this and the Apollo programme.
Like competition on a nation-v-nation wide scale would fuel it. Just without the whole nuclear button shit as well.
Let’s ‘accidentally’ drop these plans by the Chinese military’s doorsteps and watch *Space Race 2.0*
You dont need to, they have already said couple of years ago they are looking to have a base there within next 8 years so mid 2020s. They are working really well at their new rockets, rovers and probes and should be credited more for it. They will be the first there. Murica is doing it half assed as usual, but once President Harris comes in, all funding will be stopped.
@Herman Greenfield Using "OMGWTF" and "adult" in the same barely legible sentence, must be a know nothing self absorbed millennial that does whatever their Facebook propaganda tells them to. Perhaps you should slink back into your "safe space" before it gets too hot for you snowflake and you melt.
@Charles Lim Far side - it isn't dark : )))))
@Herman Greenfield Let me guess, the comment about Harris makes him a Nazi? You people are clowns!
@@anarchyantz1564 dude, they are a troll and not a very good one at that, giving them attention only feeds them
reminds me of my favourite Sci-Fi TV series growing up called 'Space 1999'. Moon-base Alpha.
love the final words. keep up the good work!
Thanks for the video Mr. Whistler!
To be honest, I was expecting some more indeep analysis of the technicalities of a Moonbase, maybe a rendering of the facilities, some hypoteses on the scopes and objectives of the installation, a list of the necessary technological breakthroughs, how it could be powered, the description of the Earth - Moon communication links, how and how much Nations other than U.S. may be willing to partecipate, and any possible competition. The proposals from 70 years ago for a Moon Base are no longer relevant.
Please this is not a criticism from my side, I do highly appreciate your video as it is, it is just a list of my expectations when I clicked on it.
Again, thank you for your hard work.
Regards,
yeah, i agree. next Video an hour long please.
In the 50s people decided to accomplish a task and then solve problems on the way to getting there. Today we think of all the problems, try to solved them and never even get off the ground in the first place (literally in this case). Don't be afraid to fail!
Best yet. Absolutely superb. More like this. Hundreds more please
Excellent work Simon and G'day from downunder and thank you and your team for your videos
There is so much going back in time on megaprojects we should be swimming in paradoxes.
Nope. That’s just a very stressed blend of your imagination and provided rhetoric causing the mind to wander. There should be a few doctors interested in prescribing treatment for such an illness.
Well if you need assistance with that from of all places CZcams comments then I’d say your in some kind of trouble. Maybe try letting Alex Jones and InfoWars know about that. Then I’m sure you will get the credit you so rightly deserve
Hahaha, just cause you think your winning doesn’t mean mean you are. While your gone try reviewing your English as well. Like using semicolons to express connected but separate concepts in a sentence. Don’t worry you’ll be able to do more than support someone else’s ideas eventually; one would hope.
Say whatever you want to try to make this thread about your character and not your content. Should anyone like to read through this including the ones who posted the video, they will see your first comment. Try to remember next time when you speak you are building on your previous words. That’s how a debate works; which is what this was. However, you start with outlandish claims, then try to attack my character and “leave”, then present yourself as a character. All this while not addressing my first words, but by changing the subject. I see someone was watching the presidential debates recently. Too bad most people see through this. Don’t forget to show your friends this thread
@@blakewilliams1959 "you think your winning"...try YOU'RE next time, b4 u go bashing others grammar ...just sayin
Asteroid 2020,The only candidate that you need to worry about.
And the best, most qualified, candidate the people should vote for
Let us vote for the Rock (not DJ, the space rock) to lead us into a new era of enlightenment and we shall all bask in its glow! Praise be to ATOM!
@@anarchyantz1564 We are the Children of Atom.
@@jacobhuff3748 Exactly, soon we all shall reach division and become one with Atoms glow!
We will establish a colony on the moon, when ET let's us.
We probably already have a base on the moon. It’s just kept secret from the general population.
Great episode!!!
"...nuclear reactors. Two of them housed in the same
buildings as the soldiers."
Simon, kindly refer your sights to the Los Angeles class
submarines. (Or, any other class of nuclear sub.)
steve
The Canadia Avro Arrow would a great topic, or even part of a after ww2 common wealth plane video.
The History Guy did a video on the Avro Arrow last November but I'm sure Simon's team could put together a little more on it.
yes
8:33 regarding living in the same enclosure as a nuclear reactor, Simon says radiation poisoning is bad which it is. But if your nuclear reactor is giving off enough radiation in particle or energy form to poison you something has gone horribly wrong.
Right now there are people living in close proximity to nuclear reactors aboard aircraft carriers and nuclear powered submarines. And on US nuclear powered submarines there has never been a significant release of radiation or any nuclear accident. So these things can be built safe enough to live next to.
Yes, but the shielding used is *heavy.*
@rogerwilco99
_"And you can shield using just regolith from the moon's surface if it's thick enough."_ Agreed.
But then you better place that reactor OUTSIDE of the cabin. Because you don't want to fill a good portion of your habitat space with regolith.
Reminds me of the storyline in the series 'For All Mankind', on how both the the US and Soviets created bases on the moon.
"Technological advances have narrowed and
plateaued. We have state-of-the-art smartphones seemingly released every month... But, is this really changing the world? Are we still pushing the boundaries of innovation?"
@Charles Yuditsky Well arguably we may not be pushing forward, but we are pushing deeper. Stuff gets more effective, cheaper, mass produced. I think that also is important for future. It's cool to have 1 rocket to get to moon and back (with lots of luck or so they say) but that's not building anything anywhere. Next step would be streamlining that process and that's sort of what happens even now with Elon's recyclable rockets etc.
@@PetrSojnek Some people also preferred to work on making more effective and cheaper horse carriages, while some invented a car...
It is typical for true innovation to cease when monopolies take over. Takes time to shake that up, sometimes decades. Plateaus benefit a few oligarchs with great power.
The scientist were not talking about nuclear power generating stations most people are familiar with but smaller devices called betavoltaic devices that convert radiation directly into electricity similar to how a solar panel generates power from photons. much smaller and simpler.
Im amazed you know of Betavoltaic generators those also power the TR-3B and TR-6 Charged Particle Beam Weapons Systems.
I have been following this channel for a while now and I absolutely love it. I have a suggestion, please do tell me if this has already been done, the massive global network of satellites that connect our daily world together.
you're actually really funny mate! Love the content
How they got around having a reactor in the same tube? Submarines....
I love how he brushes off the whole thing as fantasy, without giving a single solid reason for any part of it to be impossible. There was not a single thing, including the chickens, that could not have been done by 1970.
@@markpoidvin5382 I don't doubt they could have pulled it of from a technological perspective. But the cost would have been insane. And definitley not by 1970 considering Armstrong was up there in 1969
Well considering we have reactors on ships I don't see to much a problem or reactors in habitable areas.
Shielding just might be a little bit of an issue. In the Apollo days it took 950,000 gallons of fuel to get the LEM to the moon, so imagine how much fuel it would take to get enough lead shielding up there.
@@parkerea That is for active reactors. The way to do this is to take it to the moon as parts and assemble it there - the shielding would simply be big ol' pile of regolith between people and the reactors.
You would have to assume that the 12 stationed soldiers would not have the 100% technical know-how to contain any problems that would come with having to maintain 4 nuclear reactors....on the moon....
Greenpeace had a problem with putting a few grams of polonium on a satellite to go to Saturn, what do you think they'd say to sending pounds up?
@@koori3085 were not 100% accurate at sending shuttles to space, which is why it was ruled out in just blasting all of our nuclear waste to the sun. Any one accident could spread radioactive fallout everywhere. Be like chernobyl all over the place.
Just want to say that I really enjoy all your videos! =D
Excellent stuff
Perfect timing to catch this before I sleep 👌
Where are you from?
@@ethanknight6597 some where In asia
Wouldn't a moon base seem logical as a stepping stone to a Mars mission?
"We _cannot allow_ a mine-shaft gap!" - the perfect Cold War metaphor courtesy of Kubrick and Scott
“Gentlemen, there is no fighting in the WAR ROOM.”
“Mein Führer! I can walk!”
Of course now you have to do Project Lunex, the competing USAF version.
Living in a cylinder next to reactor is silimilar to a nuclear sub? So I guess not to crazy.
Nice insight, cool video….and 1 sharp dressed man!
I'm over the moon for your space content, keep it coming
Ummm....we do have a now-funded moon base project.... artemis
Was announced like last month....be a great video idea *hint*
They're lights on the moon. They shine at random intervals. Liquid salt reactors are light weight and compact. Those ambitious engineers and scientists were only in their late thirties when they came up with these ideas.
That was fun and interesting. Thanks. It's appreciated.
Great video 👍😮
I have read that report. Davy Crocketts and Land Mines are not in it, but i see them mentioned everywhere.
Where the hell did that idea come from?
So, what you are saying is that a Death Star was conceived in 1959.
Fallout Equestria: Project Horizon has taken on a whole new level of understanding for me after watching this.
Haha exactly
You should do a video about Camp Century. A Military Base underneath the ice in greenland. It was actually built during the cold war.
When I was a kid, there was a show hosted by Walter Cronkite called “the 21st century”.
He said we would all have our own personal robot.
Well, it’s the 21st century and I want my damn robot!
🤬
I have been saying the same thing. It might be a few decades, but it WILL happen because someone (someBOT) needs to cook, wash clothes/dishes/car, vacuum, run to get groceries and change the babies diapers. You can't rely on in insufficient lazy human to do all things. That lazy human will be laying in bed with his latest model BB-Busty, thinking of the long night he had with her/it/him/thing and planning on his next all- nighter.
Say “Alexa” out loud.
You’re talking about an American Army base on the Moon, when we haven’t even yet dealt with those Nazis in their secret Antarctic base?
And this is not to even mention Air Force *Project Lunex,* the Russian *Project Zvesta,* and *Pink Floyd* on the dark side of the Moon.
_C’mon, priorities!_
Yup Nazis beat the americans and Russians in this one.
Always those damned Nazis on the dark side of the moon 😂
A must see enjoyable guilty pleasure movie
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@Andy Peek : Now, now. Don't be so down. There's light at the end of the cosmological tunnel.
_(*Sigh*. Why does_ nobody _get my humor?_ and/or _Why can't they understand that I know everything, all the time?....)_
Hey simon big fan of all your channels
All 11? Great 👍
Boi with the blaze is bleeding through to the sister channels lol keep up the awesome content and hard work Simon and co. 🍻
Simon: We need to travel back to the times of the Cold War.
2020 World: Can we...not?
You really think we’re not already in a second Cold War? Or that we might not be still fighting the first cold war with new boundaries?
For a great classic sci-fi book about settlements on the Moon, check out "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" by R.A. Heinlein.
Then Mars must be a Bitch!
Love these topics! I suggested this a few times haha too
Speaking of moon bases, let's not forget the TV show, Space 1999. A nuclear pile detonated causing the moon to leave orbit.
Just take what we've learned from nuclear-powered submarines and use it for the moon. We've had sailors next to nuclear plants for many many many years
We need some absurdly ambitious projects right now?
Elon Musk: Hold my beer! Except that I'll go for Mars straight away.
Well, the lunar variant of Starship proposed as part of Artemis would be able to land ~100 tons per trip. That's basically the full Project Horizon mass to lunar surface just in two landings (not two flights - there would be multiple Starship Tanker flights to reafuel the Lunar Starship before each flight) & all of this using reusable rockets.
Not the 100+ expendable launchers needed to do the same in the original proposal - no wonder the costs were projected to be so high!
So progress is certainly being made. :)
To be honest Simon, I love every video you've made.
I have however noticed a lack of airports, and would like to request Denver International Airport first.
It's the second largest airport in the world by land, 5th busiest in the USA and in the top 25 busiest in the world.
There are also a number of conspiracy theories surrounding it, which are pretty interesting.
When it was being built it went massively over budget (par for the course really), and had a few malfunctions with a baggage claim system.
Still a very interesting megaproject that I think you should cover!
Elon Musk seems to be taking the reigns on the absurdly ambitious projects, and I am glad he does. At this point, we are going to need private industry to help push the boundaries, especially since our Federal plans for major space projects, like moon bases and the like, seem to fall through and change every 4 to 8 years when a new president comes into office.
We've already got bases on the moon and Mars, the public space program (NASA) and the us navys secret space program (solar warden) are two completely different things. One of the most top secret things on the planet.
@@keeganscorner3837 sources? Lol
@@keeganscorner3837 show me the space launches for the infrastructures lol. We would have surely seen them ;)
@@kettelbe I will show you the video footage, what is your email
@@kettelbe they don't use conventional rockets for space travel, they have advanced way past rocket technology. But we the public don't get to know about this kind of stuff.
How do you know that they haven't built a secret base on the moon that nobody knows about yet? Haven't you seen space force, the tv show? 😂😉
...Space 1999?
@@hosermandeusl2468, yeah, and look how that ended!
Nah it's because the Nazi's went there in the 30-40's . Then when the US went there when we did they where like fuck off this is ours now. Lol 😂😂. Idk it sounded better in my head.
If anyone has a moon base, it's Elon. Probably partnership with Richard Branson. Virgin-Tesla Corp. Since water has recently been discovered, I imagine Nestle will be next.
Engine problems ? Stuck in orbit?
Toilet frozen ?
Did your rover get stolen ?
Call Space Force.
Same month service maybe available.
This concept sounds like it would make a great movie! Some kind of cross between The Martian and Moonraker
You guys should do a video on Oveanbird, the massive new modern Swedish sailing car carrier ship. The the looks pretty rad and would be right up your alley. Wish you and the crew the best. Thanks for all the content.
come on simon,I have been asking for you to do a video about the original world trade center that was destroyed on september 11th,2001 please do it for me
“Do something challenging and awesome for the betterment of science and humanity’s future?” Nope! Do it because your political foes might do it first! Right away!
The betterment of human life and the fight against communism are one in the same. I’d rather eat than send people into space, while communists are always willing to starve their population to fund what the boss wants, to genocidal levels.
@@justinmartin4662 OK boomer. I'll let you finish that Koolaid you are drinking.
There has been talk about using ancient volcanic tubes/caves to form bases underground which I find to be really interesting..
Simon can you do a part 2 about that!?!?
I'm glad he brought up that their vision was aspirational. As outlandish as it may have been, it would be nice if we could come together and accomplish something as incredible as this.
if it wasn't for religion and politics.... we would have been 1000 years advanced, at least.
If it wasn't for religion and politics we wouldn't have society or science.
Unfortunately, it seems that these days the only things that count are politics, racism, and all the (fake) social media posts. Humanity needs to stick together and to move onwards instead of beating each other up.
I love your videos and channels, and the way you present them, please keep it up!
Well said, Patrick.
Speaking of space, a Megaprojects video on the space shuttle would be sweet!
Good video 👍
Do the Pennsylvania Turnpike! It was quite a megaproject!!
Man I love this guy
@12:17
Loved this video!!! We NEED to come together as a species!! The world IS getting better and healthier and we need MORE collaboration :-)
PLEASE PLEASE do St. Peter’s Basilica!!!
The video starts at 3:20, with some waffling ( yes Simon, I know what the moon is ) - then another advert at 5:10 - it finally resumes at 6:40
Hi, great channel and videos!
I think it would be fun to do a megaproject video on the 'minitel', the french communication service built before the internet that brought online ticket booking, news, games or even chat to every house in France in the 80s, and that has been used for more than 20 years…
Regards
10:54 now THAT'S the content im here for!
Thank you
🖖🏽 loved this
Oh please, talk down to us even more, Whistler,.we love it
The latest space force video implies there is an enemy base on the dark side of the moon.
Surf ‘n’ turf on the moon would be quite interesting
Speaking of the cold war and moon bases.. The DOS games "WAR" and "MoonBase" were *awesome* staples of the pre-CGA/monochrome era of confuser gaming.
Video suggestion: the Pikeville, KY cut through project. An entire mountain was removed to divert a river and prevent flooding.
The main reason I can see for going to the Moon is see whether humans can survive in 1/6 th gravity. With only three seconds for radio signals to travel back and forth. anything worth doing there can be done from here remotely. If we don’t know the effects of 1/6 gravity, any ideas of living on Mars 1/3 gravity is lunacy.
SIMON! Do a video on the Antarctic Snow Cruiser!! Please!!
The graphics for this video are getting very wild!
It's great to see the Apollo Applications Program wikipedia page made into to TV series on Apple Streaming.
love the chickens, astronauts shooting into the air. hilarious bro. so US stylie
Topic Idea: Snowy Hydro Scheme in Australia, because why not?
Recommend doing a video on the worlds largest Oil Supertanker ship, the largest ever made is the Seawise Giant previously named Jahre Viking.
This video was more amusing than informative. It was like a fellow from the 1800s giving a tongue-in-cheek talk about his ideas of the future to a present day audience. I would have preffered a video about viable modern day ideas for a future moon base concept such as ALL of the base being underground since the moon is subject to the occasional meteorite strike. Any above ground structure would need to be built like a bunker wiht main access from below, and emergency access only on the surface. Lighting would be mainly provided by bundles of optic fiber cable bundles from collector arrays on the surface filtering sunlight via smaller bundles of cables throughout the base, plus a series of electrical lights and generators powered by solar arrays under armored glass also on the surface. Any greenhouses and farms would also need to be underground.
Any radar/radio communication arrays would need to be alored against meteorite strikes, or retactable for the same reason.
Military protection would be in the form of wire guided missiles, rocket batteries, electromagnetic rail guns, and combat rifles and pistols using caseless ammunition to avoid the nuicance/danger of ejected shell casings; bullets nowadays have their own oxygen in their proppelants so they should be perfectly usable on the moon and in space. Recoil can be dealt with via proper training.
Claymores are also a nice touch. RPGs are also viable since they are essentially man portable and recoilless.
Finally, for lunar surface transportation, a modified wheeled armored vehicle is a better bet than any fancy lunar roveras protection against meteorite strikes. save the lunar rover design with big windows for the tourists who will not mind the sanger of meteorite strikes and gamma radiation hazards.
I had almost all of the pictures you used as rotating backgrounds on my computer in college. And I had alot.
There is an alternate history where this video is called, "That time a bunch of soldiers died of radiation poisoning on the moon"
"The Conquest of Space" -- Ronnie Reagan must have watched that film. "Space: 1999" -- so sorry, Gerry Anderson. George Jetson as our future's "everyman" (not so). A planet-killing asteroid hitting the earth? We're doing a cracking job of destroying ourselves sans any space rocks -- only a lot slower. Thanks Simon, for the info and a few laughs. Your videos are amazing!
Another great vid mate. 👏. Honestly though I hope humans never colonise the moon, we can’t even manage this planet never mind the moon.