The 10 Biggest Pitfalls That Ruined Fighter's Careers
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I think the fact TJ got caught for EPO is one of the reasons fans seem so unwilling to forgive or treat it like a one time thing. You don't just start taking EPO, you need to be using it for a few months to get a serious benefit for it.
Its my personal rule that even if youre my favorite fighter, if you miss weight, I root against you for that fight. If you pop for PEDs, I root against you forever.
@@jacksdad734 Who?
Also Usada didnt catch him.
@@jacksdad734 totally agree, combat sports are the worst for sucking up to ped cheats where its easily the most dangerous. athletics, cycling, both just dismiss anything to do with ped users
@@jacksdad734 I agree. I don't understand how Jon Jones is a multiple time offender for using steroids and a multitude of other crimes but he isn't shunned from the sport like lance Armstrong was from biking
Honestly, Hendricks didn't seem like a "weight cut" problem per say. Usada showed up, and suddenly Hendricks couldn't make weight or win a fight. He also wouldn't get tested with gsp. His legacy is one of a cheater in my eyes at least.
came here to say exactly this. very surprised they said it was a weight cutting issue and even more surprised that your comment doesn't have more likes.
@@petrpanthr3925 well you cant just come out and call someone a cheater with no definite evidence of it, no matter how obvious the signs are.
@@coater2281 you can, but you can't prove it.
He needed a letgit chemist to let him pass Usada test.
@@petrpanthr3925 He couldn't re hydrate with an IV anymore, so it makes sense to use either argument
I'd say bad management/coaches would be a major pitfall. Look at Ronda Rousey. She got it in her head by her coach she could box when she was a submission specialist. When she went against actual strikers, she got knocked the hell out. Another is Diego Sanchez getting with that farce of a manager.
"Was surpassed by far more efficient and comprehensive techniques."
That being Frank Shamrock his brother, that guy is the OG (original GOAT) and he doesn't get the respect he deserves
Well said.
Frank was always the better Shamrock brother because he evolved with the game and knew when to call it quits.
"you gotta get up. You're a legend."
@@danelynch7171 from the other legend Nick Diaz!
@@SunTzuMedia that was one of my favorite moments in MMA history.
Pitfalls are things you don't see coming. More than a few on this list made choices that sped up the end of their careers if not ruined them altogether.
Such an amazing and entertaining video, thank you for the effort you guys always put into your content!
I don’t care what anyone says anderson silva didn’t ruin his career. He just loves fighting. That’s why he was so great in his prime. Just like Roy jones jr
I agree. That’s like saying because Mike Tyson lost late in his career his whole career was ruined. Haters can get fucked.
The fact you say you don't care just shows you don't care about facts. Anderson did tarnish his legacy, its not even debatable at this point. Popping for roids and racking up consecutive losses in the twilight of his career will hurt his place in the GOAT conversation. In his prime Anderson was widely considered the MMA GOAT, today almost everyone puts GSP ahead of him when back in Anderson's day, it would have been considered a laughable proposition because Anderson finished fights and GSP did not.
The loss to Jake Paul doesn't hurt his legacy that much because Jake is a much better boxer then he's given credit for, and Anderson at 47 years of age gave Jake (who is almost half Anderson's age) a tough fight. Its not nearly as bad as when Tyron Woodley got flatlined by Paul.
This is the average MMA fan logic. I hate telling people I’m a MMA fan cause they assume I’m a MORON
He did Nandrolone in his prime
Roy Jones was never accused of PEDs 🤔 he just lost his speed as he got older, which was his style. Anderson, unlike GSP was always arrogant on top of his drug use and got wrecked for 5+years
It is always surprising to me that so many fans refuse to recognize that most fighters (and professional athletes) are using PEDs. The ones that get caught are just that, the ones getting caught. Doesn't mean that the rest don't do the same, they are just better at disguising their use or are luckier with random testing.
Said this same thing to a dude here and he was ready to kill.😂
@@nashbullet3213 Yeah some ppl have a warped perspective from years of demonizing the practice. The athletes' livelihood and legacy are on the line, of course they will look for ways to gain an edge.
Every world class athlete in every sport is on something
@@BlockyRaptor agree there
FINALLY!!!!!! Someone with common sense!!!!
Anderson silva will forever stay a legend, I'm glad he got that boxing bag before he eventually retires.
Middleweight GOAT
Anderson Silva is a bum that got beat by a angsty former teen disney star
PEDs
Dive bag
how many of his wins was he juiced tho
@@CornPop2 All of them. You dont only juice the tines your caught
Since Tommy brought it up, I think Creed III should play out like Rocky III with Donnie losing to his former friend and winning the rematch.
It would be so gay if they had the same layout for creeds story
@@kylekimosabi2062 what year do you live in? Is it 2015, aka the same year the first movie came out where Donnie lost his first match by decision like Rocky in his movie.
@@RomaroBrandon that wasn’t Rocky, or Creeds first fight, creed was an undefeated club boxer in Mexico that worked in an office in LA, Rocky was a journeyman boxer fighting drunk for scraps in Philly, im not saying there isn’t similarities, but it would get annoying to follow the same story would it not?
@@kylekimosabi2062 you really arguing with strangers over fictional boxers?
@@etlonjonh you really felt the need to comment saying this? And it’s not really an argument it’s just a conversation 😂
Good video love your channel!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥keep it up!
If the clickbait is true losing to a guy in his 20s whilst being 48 is not a downfall
In a different sport also
Its because for some reason people are still not ready to accept that Jake is more than a youtuber. Dude been training boxing since the Deji but people too blinded by hate to see how much he's been improving with each fight
@@marseanbostic3377 i don't care if he is improving, Anyone that says otherwise is just blinded by hatred lol
But I just dislike the 2 of them (Paul Bros)
When you’re a 48 year old legend with nothing to prove and you’re fighting some CZcams kid whose best opponent is Tyron The Frozen One Woodley and you lose, yeah that’s a downfall
@@kylekimosabi2062 No context damnit just the ages!
Tyron saying he was working for 14 hours a day on cobra kai when he is in only 2 scenes. Fucking hilarious excuse!
sounds better than "I let this random dork knock me out for cash"
@@kombatcamera It must have been a lotta money because that knockout was embarrassing.
I mean he could've filmed a lot more scenes that were cut from the final product. Very common thing in television and movie industry.
surprised you can kick that high, impressive!!!
It's crazy how Conor fits with most of these
Big rig failed to make weight because the team lack real experts on it, they are college wrestling coaches that build a team around hendricks in terms of combat, and was regularly rehydrating him through IV. Once USADA came in and IV was banned, the man was dead in the water.
You forgot to mention the time in NY Jon Jones pulled up next some homeless dudes trying to score drugs in the pandemic and got busted.
Number 5 is one of the most frustrating aspects of the sport atm. I wanna see the best fighters fight the best fighters to get to a title shot, not the best shit talkers running their mouths to get up the rankings. May as well just dump the rankings all together and introduce a fan voting system or some shit.
Doesn't work that way. You gotta get asses in the seat.
Video idea. Weight classes with the most missed weight. (Total pounds missed)
"Training UFC right out the gate"- Based Toe hold
Man I was really hoping they would have a clip of the Grand Master from Mexican martial arts "sipping on his "Secret Juice
Well luckily for me you were let down weren’t you. Seriously go away. You’re not allowed around here. Cool kids only.
Rocky III syndrome! Tommy coined it.
Another one is an elite rival. DC and Valentina would easily be considered among the GOATs if they didnt have the actual GOATs in their way keeping them from reaching it. Both would be legit 2-division champs with no real competition.
Paddy has also said he’s gonna stop bulking when he fights top talent
Anderson Silva never should have taken that fight with Joke Paul.
Speaking of thriving... Tommy Toehold can't miss
TJ is my favorite natty vegan athlete.
Hendricks weight cutting problems coincide with implementation of USADA ??
Nice shot of belal and khabib when talking about being complacent
Do you think y’all could do an episode where the reaction clips or funny bits are nothing but Will Ferrel?
Tommy you a 🐐
Injuries should be on the list, perfect example are Dominick Cruz and Cain Velazquez
I don't think Silva and Jake should be up here. People are still calling dude a youtube/disney boxer despite training in it for years now. I can understand why Jake is starting to get a bit frustrated 😅
Then maybe he should box a boxer 🤷♂️
@@munkeyinspace5331 he attempted to fight two of them already, let's not pretend that he's avoiding boxers
Agreed. The fact Anderson went the distance with Jake (who is a better boxer then he is given credit for) doesn't hurt his legacy all that much, especially since Anderson is almost double Jake's age and it was a fun fight. Can't say the same for Tyron, who made it a snooze-fest and got flatlined in the process.
Jon jones being sober would be like keith richards being sober... It would be weird
Why don’t you try sort your life out mate you’re still going 5/5 with your mates on a 10 bag behave. 😂
When in the USADA pool, fighters should have their weight regularly documented. Then when training for a fight, they should be held to a specific limit of much weight they are allowed to cut down to their weight class. For example if all year you average around 215, you should not be allowed to cut anymore than 20 lbs a couple weeks before the fight. Problem solved and now it's more fair for everyone
sounds safer too.
But that’s not USADAs job. They’re a third party that specifically test for blood and urine.
10:08 I had to rewatch this bit like 5 times. Japanese pro wrestling training is no joke!
Pause it at 8:53 and please tell me what is going on with his knee?
Anyone know where I can find the song while the list is being read? Not the Rossett song played in the beginning. Any help would be appreciated.
Even though he didn't even make it to the fight to begin with. Dillon Danis should be on a part 2 of this list since he pulled out of fighting KSI like last minute
Pro wrestlers are actually independent contractors as well. You'd think that they wouldn't be, but they are
Clip at 7:24 slow motion not credited to TheSlowMoGuys.
Fighters are their own biggest enemies, while anderson has always been a commendable and outstanding striker i had a feeling that he was gonna loose cus hes a 'striker' not a 'Boxer' plus the age and everything idk why he did that to himself but lets hope it was worth it cus if i were him id prolly go into maniac depression if i lost to someone like Paul😂
I believe Paddy will get serious with new juicy contract
Kicking a fighter out for weed is hypocritical especially in a state where it's legalized for recreational use.
In Vegas it used to be a 20 year prison sentence for the possession of a single joint.
I respect Anderson for continuing to fight.he could’ve easily retired after escaping chael and been a goat but loves fighting by
Great card!
Bones' tattoo on the right side of his upper chest is "Philippines 4:13".
Tell me something I don’t know.
Bruh. I saw the promo where rk bro was reformed and thought is that Matt? No way and then completely forgot about it. That was Matt XD. I have been out of touch with WWE for a minute.
Rocky 3 was a good title but you could also call it the Allen Iverson conundrum. Athletes who get to an elite level then say fuck it to practice not realizing you need to work twice as hard to stay on top.
That and Johny Hendricks post USADA was nothing to who he was prior.
If you need to cut weight for an advantage, you're in trouble. I always took advantage of the depleted state people were in in wrestling
The most I ever cut was about 4 pounds and I was almost always stronger than the kids I wrestled even though most of them walked around heavier. I think it's an imaginary advantage in a lot of cases, and I saw a lot of guys throw their metabolism out of wack
Anthony Cruz,
Size matters, big time, especially when it is minute differences separating two fighters, who are among the best in the world. Having an extra 10, 15, or even more pounds on your opponent is a big advantage. If you can do a properly disciplined weight cut, and are going in against someone who doesn't cut, you have a big leg up. Problem is that cutting weight through dehydration will always be dangerous, and that many guys lack the discipline to do it somewhat safely, leading to the disastrous weight cuts. I have always wished weight cutting wasn't a thing, because it just makes shit way more dangerous, especially when you consider the brain contains a ton of your body's water. I don't know how you could stop it though... even if you weighed guys say 2 hours before a fight, guys would just go more extreme and try to rehydrate on even sketchier time frames... inevitably leading to even more dangerous situations. Only way to accomplish anything close would be to have some kind of maximum walk around weight that you checked on, which would be laborious.
@@crx122 agree to disagree. I may be biased because I did my best when I hardly cut anything
@@crx122 someone told me maybe weight cuts just affected me more 🤷🏻♂️
@@5liter yeah I never had to cut more than 5 except ONE TIME and I hated it
#1 waiting for the cyborg crying clip and it was there
Dis thambnail make me cry bratha
I'm just gonna say what I'm thinking. Jones never fights at heavyweight. Maybe in the PED era, but not now.
What’s with the club music?
Benson Hendo… went to welterweight in uf because he was already past his prime and boring. He had no choice to go to bellator
What's the song?
This video woulda been good if the music didn’t clash hard af with tommy trying to speak to us.
It was Mojahed who promoted Leon
"Traning UFC" mma on point i heard of UFC but what discipline is UFC?
Paddy’s issue is two fold he thinks he’s far better than he is and dosnt look like he’s improving very much as he keeps just saying he’s had a bad performance and next time he’ll show us who he really is, and his over eating clearly effects his cardio and conditioning because of the weight cutting
I call it getting Clubber Langed lol but yeah
I think Broken Native, Carla, and Dustin wins by decision. I can feel it
Everyone: Fighters shouldn't fight past their prime
Also Everyone: when is jon jones coming back its been 3 years
Well that's cause jones wasted a good 90% of his prime , and because he has taken virtually no damage he might still be in his prime
would hardly say leon edwards has ruined his career
love most of your content but this list is shoddy
Woodley was barely on Cobra Kai. He was in 5 scenes 7 max. No way he worked 14 hour days. Maybe 14 hours total
On movie or t.v sets you could have one line and be there all week saying that one line a hundred different times in different ways, emotions etc.
Wanderlei cheated to win on MANY of those pride wins. Holding the ropes while head stomping was against the rules.
I don't care about whose in the fights i only care about the fights themselves, so "career advocacy" isn't a pitfall winning fights is all that matters so why do people care about who they call out or what interviews you get? They're athletes i want to see them compete in a sport they're not actors begging me to see the next marvel movie i will be ignoring
Who is the guy at 4:13 ?
Woodley was in like 2 scenes in cobra Kai😂
It would be sweet to see that preteen Disney idol fight someone closer to his age that hasn't had a career full of wars. I thinking he might have a bit harder time dealing with a actual boxer that's not 15-20 year older than him.
Anderson Silva is good in my book idc if he looses now watching him from a kid was great
Why does Balian sound like the Geico lizard?
What’s up with the music during the video….
jones is the kind of guy to take steroids so he has no excuse to lose and then drink himself to shit so he again got a excuse to lose...
Bruh..... Stop with the promos if youre going to have ads
If paddy well you already said it while im typing
The Matt Riddle is funny now seeing how the UFC and WWE are merging 😂
Well he got released from WWE so what does that say
Well as a Brazilian i can say that at least to us Anderson didn't ruined his legacy, basically nobody cares if he lost to Jake Paul he's 48 years old what he did before it's DONE nothing can erase he is the best middleweight of this sport history
Note from the start: if Izzy is the betting favorite, I’m putting money on Alex. 2-0 and he’s the underdog? Sign me up
Why the f*** is Anderson Silva still fighting?
Big rigg got usada
There is 1 camera angle for the Silva knockdown by Paul where you can clearly see that the punch completely whiffed and then Paul has a confused look on his face...not to mention that Woodley the aspiring actor/ dare I say rapper fell to the canvas exactly like dude from the new Rocky movie... your body just doesn't fall like that unless you are trying not to hurt yourself when you fall...down to exact feet position... watch when Woodley got knocked out by Rory Macdonald..that's what he looks like knocked out...fake as hell those Paul fights...but so are alot of boxing matches anyway...it a fool to even watch the highlights for free after this Silva BS
Dude you seem really confused. There are so many things wrong with this post, but one major thing is that Rory Macdonald never KO'd Woodley. Rory won by decision. I don't like the Jake Paul bullshit either, but he landed a punch that dropped Silva idk how you can say it whiffed.
Watch the head snap...
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Ufc well lost oot on Matt Riddle what a fkn character and fighter
Dude we don’t need the underlying music
I personally think Jones has inner demons and the youngest sibling mentality. I really don’t think he would be as dominant as he is without the road he’s taken
The Kurgan!!!
You definitely should have added the Sam Kinison clip during entry 5 where Sam implores women to " tell us what you want , we will do it "
It would have been so apropos imo
8:00
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In my book anyone who loses to the pauls doesnt really tarnish their career. If anything its the opposite, hadnt fought for ages and cashed to secure generational wealth sure "the spider" might have lost a few fans but he did something bigger them himself and his fight record. He has 0 interest in boxing and its all about generational wealth.
Taking points off your own reputation to secure your families family future and so on is respectable. If dana paid them a bit more we wouldnt see p4p's cashing in a decade after their career.
5:52 imagine pushing Jon Anik and still fight in the ufc....
Anik, especially at that point, was a nobody compared to Bones.
I think fans who are less interested in the sport believe that losing fights after their prime ruins their legacy. Anderson sucks now and that’s normal but you will never be able to take away what he did.
Dana White holds grudges better than any women
Makes me think it's likely he's actually on the DL
Jones using the alcohol as an excuse for an excuse, he didint get drunk to say that was the reason he just thought it would sound better to say than he just wasn't upto par 🤦. Face it you fucked up don't make excuses 🤷🏼♂️😂
Tyrone Woodley saying that the 14 hour days filming Cobra Kai are complete BS. He was in barely any scenes lmao
Arnold Allen and then Michael chandler was perfect lol
With Jon jones I don’t understand why people let his out of cage exploits effect the way they see his talent:/
I can't take this CZcams channel serious because everytime they predict someone to win they end up losing and then act like they never said the opposite
Nothing disappointing about Wanderlei's career whatsoever...dude couldn't be in a boring fight if he tried
It was a little disappointing for his biggest fans in the UFC, especially at the time. Many of them believed Wandy would become a UFC champion, and some questioned why Rampage was even getting a trilogy fight with Wandy considering what happened in their previous two contests. While almost none of his fights were boring, the fact he didn't win all of them did disappoint some. The KO losses to Rampage and Leben were evident he was long in the tooth.
Anderson legacy was ruined with the 2nd failed drug test same as Jones. First time I give someone the benefit of the doubt unless it’s like TJ and you can’t have a tainted supplement. But let’s not act like the Paul fight wasn’t just a paycheck they were dancing together to MJ before the fight that wasn’t legit
Telling the story of the Johnny Hendricks decline without mentioning that it literally coincided with the implementation of USADA testing seems slightly disingenuous, my guy.