Honda CT125 Locked & Loaded Big Bore 142cc
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- This video is about Honda CT125 Locked & Loaded Big Bore 142cc Holy Cow things progressed much faster than I had expected. Took the bike to the mechanic around 4 PM Monday and he sent me pictures of he bike Tuesday morning at 6:40 AM showing his work on it Monday evening and then called me at 7 AM to tell me it was done and that he'd be right over with the bike. So much for not getting it until Thursday noon....... I do a heat cycle break in on all my engines that are new or rebuilt. This CT is no different, six heat cycles of an easy test ride with a complete cool down period and do it again until I've done it six times. This video was shot on the second of the six test rides. This bike now does what it should have done from Honda. Not hammering Honda, but 150cc bike would have been perfect, add some adjustable suspension and the bike is perfect..... You be the judge by what you hear and see in this video. My next video will be out in the country side to really see how it performs.......
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One thing I forgot to mention on this video. The mechanic charged me 1,000 Baht, which is $32.25 US and that included an oil change......
Hi Okie. What weight oil are you running with the big bore kit. Thailand looks a great place to ride. Thanks again for posting.
@@patrickbowtell I'm using Shell Advanced Synthetic Based 10w40. Pick a brand you feel safe with and stick with it. The oils today are so much more advanced than 20 years ago it's ridiculous. The oils just don't break down like they used to.......
Excellent. 👍
@@MisterMitchMM Thanks Mitch.......
..nice upgrade ,ride was smooth,is it possible to retain the original exhaust pipe,just love the old looking pipe...great day.
I recognize that it’s too late for this comment to affect your break in procedure, but you may get another bike. When breaking in a new engine, or one recent,y overhauled, it is good for them to be run at a variety of RPMs. Lugging around at a low RPM might feel good to the rider, but it’s the engine that we’re trying to satisfy, not the rider.
I like the way you had the bike outfitted. Good stuff.
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When I break in a new bike or an overhaul, it's always done the same way. Take it for a ride, give it some gas, slow it down, ride is slow, ride it fast. I always ride it like I will ride it in normal conditions. I just don't ride it till it gets so hot that it fries the engine. Take it a little easy, but make sure you ride it like you want it to perform. Get it heated up, then let it cool down for a while. Then do it all over again. Multiple runs lets the engine slowly set the metals to their tolerances. Do it to fast or to slow and the metal won't harden properly. It works for me, can't say that it will work for everyone else.... thanks for the comment, always welcome....
Break 'em like you ride 'em! I break in my bikes the "Motoman" way... hard. Change the oil at 20 miles to get the gunk out. The first 20 miles are the most critical. A bike that's broken in under a load will have a better ring seal. Never had a failure. Tests have shown they produce more power than one broken in easy, which get blow-by on the rings. Finally got my CT125 in New Mexico yesterday.
With a heat cycle you let the two different types of metal expand and contract without going into huge expansions and then contracting. It allows the piston to groove into the cylinder without sticking and that is usually the fear with going up with bigger pistons, is sticking one...... I'll be doing a little harder riding today while testing sprockets, should be interesting......
I did 6 heat cycles on my new Kawasaki Z1 900 back in 1975 and I'm still riding it. Lots of miles, lots of good times!
I've gotten all kinds of comments on how to break a motor in on a motorcycle from ride it hard to putting along at idle. However, the most comments I got were that a heat cycle system is what they used and have had no problems with their motors..... Makes sense that with different metals rubbing up against each other that the expanding and contracting of those metals is at different rates........ Thanks for the comment.....
Love the upgrade Eddie. I agree 6 heat cycles is what we used to do back in the day. Never had an issue. Thanks for the ride. All the best. Mitch 🙏
Still got one more heat cycle to do and then I'll take it for a 50 Kilometer joy ride tomorrow. The day after that, I'm retracing some earlier video rides.......
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What is the 6 heat cycle break in !???
Thanks
@@moulin6 A heat cycle is staring up a cold engine to the touch of your hand. Let it warm up a bit and then take it for a smooth half throttle ride. My rides are about 5 Kilometers long. Once back home, let the engine cool back down to where it is cold to the touch of your hand. Usually takes about an hour for this. Once you have done this, repeat the process again until you have done it six times. After that I ride the bike around and put a couple hundred Kilometers on it before whacking up the throttle to full twist......
After watching so many videos about this bike you finally got it right and I am sold on the modifications. GREAT JOB
Thank You
Thanks you, it's a blast to ride this bike now, I'll never sell it...... Thanks for the great comment....
Holy Cow! It's been 20 years since I rode my various 200s (Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki) but that 142 looks to accelerate just like them on the road.
It's not as fast a 200cc bike from years gone by, but it's enough to get an old mans heart feeling younger..... Thanks for the comment......
when i was a kid me and my step brother used to race a kx 80 with a 90cc kit on it in the 125cc class. every winter we had to do a full rebuild and full polish of all the parts was a right pain weeks of work and weeks of wearing it all in ready for the racing season to restart. i have seen a lot of kids blow up there race bikes by not wearing them in right. as long as you dont hammer the bike and top end it you should be ok just go easy on it for a good few weeks. it sounds really nice with that pipe on it have fun :)
ps they banned the KX 80's from the 125cc class in the end as the kx 80's could out turn the bigger bikes they did a class just for the KX's in the end as so many of the lads got them. are kx was a beast so fast for its size so much fun
Thank you for sharing this experience with us brother. Enjoy your ride
I'm having the time of my life with this bike......
Thanks.
Looks like a beautiful place you live in.
Good on you for that!
I have thought about getting one of these, and of course doing what you have had done to yours... slightly bigger capacity.
Seems to go very nicely.
Great video, keep posting them, getting closer to pulling the trigger on one. Love the upgrades.
I've got a couple more things I want on the bike and then I'm going to do a video with a breakdown on everything I've done to the bike......
Great post. Thanks. Scootering around ChaingMai - one of my favorite things to do, especially when a stop for a Chang and a soccer game are on the agenda.
Be sure to check out some of the other videos I've done on the CT125. There are so many places around the Chiang Mai area to see, I've got a lot of sight seeing to do. Where do you watch the soccer at?
@@TeamDNFracing - I'm not in CM now. Hope to get back some day. There was a place in the Square called, BKO (Before Kick Off). I was usually the only foreigner there. My family and I watched France win the World Cup a few years back on the bar street in old town - that was a lot of fun.
I just purchased a Trail, switched out the 14 T sprocket for a 13T and had good luck with better traction in the mountains. Enjoyed your video.
That is the easiest upgrade you can do to the CT. It makes it so much better of a trail bike. What did I just say? It's a trail bike.... What was Honda thinking when they put the gearing on it that comes stock? Something so simple would have meant that their sales would have been even higher through the roof than they already are. However, they could have also put the dual range transmission on it and the problem would have been solved. Oooooorrr, they could have put a 175cc engine in it and people would have been happy with it.... Or not..... I love my CT, even when it was bone stock, I loved it..... This bike is one of the most fun bikes I have ever had. But it won't stop me from trying stuff on it that people want to know about.... Keep watching my videos, there are some awesome bike trips in there and lots more upgrades that actually make it a better bike.... I still love my CT, won't ever sale it......
love the idea of the bigger bore.Seen another youtuber that put a bigger wider front tyre on it with a new trail type guard.Bigger back tyre fitted ok.Be more forgiving with comfort
We played around with tires of all sizes a few years ago and found that no larger than a 3.00 X 17 rear and a 2.75 front kept the bike stable in most all of the off road conditions. It also kept the ABS light from a constant flashing which means the ABS is not working. We've also done extensive testing on the different sized sprockets, front and back which also affects the ABS system. Here is what we've found. If you run a 2.75X17 front tire and a 3.00X17 rear tire, you will have minimal ABS system fails. If you run anything larger than that, it really affects the ABS system. If you run a stock 14T front sprocket, you can go up to a 42T rear sprocket with very little ABS system fluctuations. If you run the 13T front sprocket with any other combinations, it messes with the ABS system. So, the optimum setup which we run now is a a 2.75X17 front tire with either a 2.75/x17 rear or a 3.00X17 rear tire, and use the stock 14T front sprocket and the 42T rear sprocket. It gives you a little bit lower gearing and still maintains the ABS system with a very few once in a while issues with the ABS light flashing. Nice thing is, just turn your key from on to off really fast and it resets the ABS system as you are going down the road. Only happens during long high speed runs, so remember the steps to reset it. Hope this helps...
Just found your channel it's amazing Thailand looks wonderful
It's a great place to retire in. I call it the Endless Summer...... Life in the tropics is the way to go......
Wow, seems to be a great improvement. Interested to see the comparison when you get into the mountains. I bet it'll be great with the 14t on the front. The fun factor on these is going to be hard to beat.
I don't believe there is a bike on the market today that can beat the CT125 in the fun factor. I really do love riding this bike, even more than any other bike I have owned. However, from the first couple rides I made on the bike, I knew it still could be a better motorcycle. With some better suspension, the bigger engine and a tire that is a little more aggressive, it would be perfect.......
Love that bike. The last bike I had was a Hodaka ace 100 from probably 1970 or 72. That bike of yours is the perfect bike!
I hated those Hodaka 100's. Why you may ask. Because I had a 1970 Yamaha 90 MX and those Hodaka's would smoke my Yamaha. I should have sold my Yamaha and bought one of the Hodaka Ace 100. Instead, I sold my Yamaha 90MX and bought a 1972 Yamaha DT250 MX. That was a really good bike. But seriously, you probably had one of the best and most reliable bikes of that era. Since I had the Yamaha 90MX, my parents wouldn't let me sell it to get another 100cc class racer. Yep, that Hodaka kicked ass, mine included...
Cool . I look forward to seeing you take it up in the mountains.
Probably won't happen until next week sometime. I really want to put a few miles on this before making it work really hard.....
That scenery looks beautiful brother!!
Nice thing about Thailand, is the scenery is awesome in most areas. Thanks to the tropics for creating it all.......
Thanks for posting 👍 It sounds great! I have one of these trail 125 on preorder, I do wish we could get the tan color in the states.
Take care 🙂
I wanted a red one and ended up with the tan. Now that I've got it, I really like the tan with black accessories on it.... I believe you will start to like the red a lot more once you get it and start having fun riding it......
so funny, over on Ride with Warro he said he wanted the red but could only get the tan. A lot of people love the CT125HC but also wanted just a little more ooopmh - I love this conversion! Look forward to updates.
While the tan looks nice and low profile, I really dig the candy red in the states, makes me more visible to fellow motorists.
I'm waiting for the black on tan in the US, too. I want it as a hunting/backwoods tool, so the more subdued the better. I think Okie's looks fantastic!
As a power sport mechanic the problem with the wider piston is that proportionally it doesn’t get any longer, so when the tolerances are real tight or looser it has a higher than normal even probability of getting cocked sideways in the bore and sizing. So you wants to get more wear time before pushing it to hard, and the valves have nothing to do with the fuel injection. He was probably saying more so the valves are what is holding back power now because they can only flow so much. At least that what i would assume he meant.
Thanks for the comment. This piston a stock Kawasaki piston is going into a stock Kawasaki cylinder sleeve. As long as you have good bearings, and I would assume this being a new engine that Honda installed good bearings in it. There should be no side to side or cocking of the piston in the cylinder. What the hop-up shops have done is to utilize stock parts from two different manufacturers of the same engine design and utilizing that one uses a shorter crank yet larger piston to the others longer crank and smaller pistons design. No difference than if Honda took the same basic engine design with a 90cc piston and then went to a larger 125cc piston....... There is a reason I broke my engine in slowly and don't rod the piss out of it. However, there has not been any reports here in Thailand of this 142cc kit detonating like the 181cc kit has. I wouldn't be surprised to see Honda eventually go to a 150cc CT in the next two years and still keep the CT125...... Again, thanks for the comment.......
Thanks for this video Eddie , what a great up-grade for a little money outlay ( well in Thailand that is )
Take care .
I could never have done all the upgrades I've done on this bike if I still lived in the US. I just would not have been able to afford it.......
Back in the day, 70's & 80's I used to do big bore on the Honda 90's and 110 forward slant engines like that one.
IIRC they were all punched out to about 150cc size back then too and we broke them in just like you did. Cycle them through a few heat cycles with mild ride. Then just ride them like we stole them. Which really loosened them up and allowed them to spin freely. Course I'm talking about total rebuilds. I still have a few big bore Xl (100 &125 cc ) engines in my shop. There is one engine out there that we bored, ported, polished and balanced to 163cc, and it dynoed out to 21 HP. Fun times. Thinking of putting together one of the 1974 XL frames I hung onto and putting it back on the road.
Good Video Dude I live in North Texas. Not far from the TX-OK State line.
Been kicking around getting one of the New CT 125's or maybe a PCX 150 Adventure for scooting around out here in the country. Riding a KLR 650 at the moment, but as I get older, getting on and off is getting a little harder to do.
The big bore kit really opened up some mild power on this bike. Not near what you were getting from yours, but enough to make this an even more fun bike to ride...... Thanks for the comment......
I would buy 2 new one's today if I could find them. the dealer wants 200 each down and says I might get them in a year. the dealerships floor was about empty and I live in a medium-sized city in Missouri.
Hi from Ireland, Love your blog I am hoping that honda europe brings the ct 125 to us soon Keep them coming Thanks.
From what I've heard, they are having trouble with the EU emissions so they are not expected to ship that way anytime soon. Check with your local Honda dealer and see what he says. Let me know what you've found out so I can post it on a video.....
Thanks I will keep an eye on this, And get back to you.
That looks so great and not just crazy speed ride !
Awesome video. So cool to see this before it hits our shores. I also wish this bike was a 150.
I'd like to see Honda make two CT models, a 125 and a 150 model. Those who just want the normal power of the CT125 with all the high fuel economy and smooth ride and the CT150 with some punch in the power and suspension that is tunable........
Awesome! You mentioned earlier you liked your mechanic and boy this just proved why. Fast and that pricing? Wow. I was super excited for you watching this. This piece proves great thing do come in small packages 📦... the 'one' box your kit came in 😄👍.
I was really surprised when he called and said he had it done. I was thinking no sooner than noon on Thursday.......
Great video, beautiful place too!
Thank you very much........
I know this is a couple years later, but break-in is for beatings and (mostly) rings. These take time to make a proper seal to the cylinder wall. Heat cycles is for head gaskets, cooling system. Both are necessary, but heat cycles alone will not allow the rings to seat probably. This is why during break-in you are supposed to hold and then vary engine rpm. Hope this helps.
Heat cycles do just that, they heat the entire cylinder, rings and piston up which in turn expands those items. When they cool, they in turn contract those same items. This is the reason for doing heat cycles to a new engine. When the engine has sufficiently completed these heat cycles to the point that they no longer expand or contract, then the engine can go through more rigorous harsh cycles. That is the reason to do the original and short cycles to allow the components to harden to the point they no longer go through these cycles of expanding and contracting. I've been doing these for decades, never lost an engine to over heated and stuck pistons or rings. It works for me, it may not be what you were taught or believe in. I appreciate your comment, but this is the way I've been doing it for years, it has never failed me.....
@@TeamDNFracing the purpose for the crosshatch pattern on the cylinder wall is specifically to abrade the ring outer surface and cylinder wall to "file" themselves to create a near perfect seal. This just takes time to happen. This is why a new engine makes les power than after a few thousand miles. This seal is only formed by friction, not heat. What the heat cycles does do is get the rings to expand less so the end gap is less likely to expand and contact the two ends and seize up inside the cylinder. Both are necessary. By doing your heat cycle system you are greatly decreasing the odds of the ring gap from expanding to the point of contact with the 2 sides. This prevents catastrophic piston failure. But the final wear pattern of the rings just takes time. Your way does work. I am definitely not disputing that. Just that the engine continues to break in for many more hours of run time. You may even notice your oil level decreasing during this break in period. This is much less common today due to vast improvements in the ability to actually produce truly round cylinders, improved metallurgy, etc. And also why synthetic oil isn't recommended for the first thousand miles or so. Too slippery to allow proper ring wear in. I've been building engines since the 70's and have even worked with an oil company (Pennzoil specifically) about this. The thermal cycling is by far better than just running a new engine for hours. But even doing a cam swap can require specific break in. It is common now for the engine on a new vehicle to go through a break in period even before it goes into a new vehicle. Most top brands do this now, and have for years. This mitigates the engine warrantee issues significantly.
@@goatman3828 I wasn't going to get into a debate about engine builds but after reading your comment and checking out how many CZcams videos on engines that you've produced, I've decided to make one more comment about your theory. If you've been building engines since the 70's, then you know that cylinders are bored with a precision machine. Has been that way for decades and is still done that way today. As for the cross hatching of the cylinder wall, how do you think those crosshatches get on the cylinder wall? As for the cylinders not being perfectly round and the rings need to mate up to the cylinders what happens when there is friction between the cylinder wall and the piston rings. It creates HEAT, the same HEAT that I do in my cycles. If the build is done correctly, then the piston rings will be fitted as per the specs for that set of rings. This alone keeps the piston rings from expanding to the point of seizing together at the ends and creating damage to the cylinder wall. I could go on and on but like I said, I'm not going to debate why I do certain things to my builds. As of now, I know of NO top brands that break their engines in before installing them in their vehicles. It's not cost efficient and the added time will slow production. They are fired up, run a bit and shut off then shipped to the dealers. Also, engines do not gain more power with time on the engine, they lose power slowly with wear. Thanks for the comment though, I did get a chuckle out of it......
@@TeamDNFracing I think we are basically saying the same thing from a different perspective. But engines DO gain power after a proper break-in due to better compression with rings fully seated, valves seal better, less friction frome rings and bearings. I didn't mean to start an argument, though Utube content might not be the best way to determine someone's knowledge and experience. I watch you regularly and thoroughly enjoy your content. So let's agree that we both are basically saying the same idea with slightly different viewpoints from our experience. And will continue to look forward to your vids. Enjoy your life. Wish I was living your tropical dream too.b 👍
Beautiful set up
Thank you........
Thanks Troop, for the scoop on the Big Bore Kit, Jerry D.
Wish I could find a shop that would export these to the states, it would really help out the guys in the US......
That bike looks so good!
Thank you for the compliment and I really like it the way it is..... A great little bike for kicking around in the great outdoors.......
like the idea with the heat cycling. i'd done exactly the same after burning out 2 inlet valves on 2 new royal enfield 500 cc singles running them in quick. good move there. bike certainly sounds good with that exhaust too
I watched video after video to find the exhaust that I liked the looks and the sound of. This Diablo fits the bill to a "T".........
So for less than $140 your now riding a 142cc? ...wow! ...that is cool! Will stay tuned for the post-heat-cycle tests!! Well done Eddie!!
I'm going to take it for a spin today and see how it feels. After I get a few more kilometers on it, I'm going back to a couple places I did when the bike was new and compare those areas with the stock vs. Big Bore....... Expect tests on the 13, 14 & 15 tooth countershaft sprockets also......
Cool video got my one down here in new Zealand really enjoying it might look at doing that to my one 😀 but do have bigger bikes ride a suzuki v Strom 1050 xt to work every day looking forward to your next video
Cheers 🍻
Congrats on getting your CT125, you will have trouble finding a bike that is more fun to ride than this one. Every time I get off mine, I have a smile that last for an hour..... Super fun to ride......
Great video, looks loads of fun , would be good if they did a 200cc engine in the same model .
I'd be happy if they just did a 175cc engine, that would be plenty of power for the bike. I'm pretty sure this 142cc kit may be all it needs. Seems good so far......
Very cool video, i was looking for more top end speed on my CT125, so I installed the big bore kit, rejetted the carb, added an after market air breather, and changed the ratio on both drive sprockets, the end result, my top speed increased to 78 mph, horsepower went up to 11.7 hp and my gas mileage went down to 73 mpg, not to bad of results, but really if someone is looking for better performance just purchase the KTM 200 Duke, it comes in at $3800 here in the states......
Loved your little story, and yes, if you want pizzaz, buy a different bike, because Honda made a pig for sure on this one. However, it really is a fun bike to ride and I love the heck out of mine the way it is now. To bad Honda won't build one like this or maybe even a little better than this one. Yes, the price is outrageous in America and the dealers are just sticking it to the poor guys who think this is something it's not. Don't really think I'd be taking that KTM Duke some of the places I've been with my CT though. Nice thing about all the bikes out there, you can't go wrong if you do lots of research before you buy...... Thanks for the comment, loved it........
I doubt I’ll get mine for another year. But when I do I’m going on a 10 month tour.
Now your talking, have fun....
..great upgrade,nice ride, smooth,was wandering if possible to retain the original exhaust pipe..like the old look.thanks alot.
I've still got all the stock parts in my shop, won't be getting rid of any of it. If I ever decide to sell it, always put the stock items back on and then ask extra for the accessories. If you're meaning could I get the same results with the stock exhaust? I don't believe so because according to the Dyno results, they had the larger pipe on for that. The stock pipe is restrictive, yet gives good power also, but I don't think it is as good as the after market pipe........
Interesting, I’ve been to that area, beautiful.
Nice bike thanks for sharing subscribed
Getting ready to go for another trail ride today, Should make for a good video. Thanks for the Sub.......
You just gained a subscriber!
Thanks man, appreciate it.......
Very informative. Going to get a CT125 for my wife. Maybe another next year for me. May have to go with the big bore kit on mine to keep up with her. Thanks.
If you give her a years head start on riding that thing, my guess is you'll need the Big Bore Kit just to stay close to her..... ;-)
Should be great to see the performance comparison with more demanding hills, trails and speed in comparison to the stock 125cc. From my observation in the videos, it is already a success. One can almost feel from watching, the increased torque and responsiveness from this ride today. The mpg will also be interesting. I agree, there will be a decrease in mpg but my guess is that the big bore cc increase will not be too detrimental in the overall trail rides. Basically, if you do not have to ride the present 142cc bike as hard with increased throttle as before, to maintain same effectiveness on the trails, that saves fuel and engine wear. You might also get far more functionality from each of the four gears, feel like a better all around bike.
Bingo, you nailed it. My thinking from the very first rides I had on this bike in the mountains. IT NEEDS MORE POWER! If what I've done to it now doesn't accomplish that, then I was wrong all along about the little engine. We'll see how it does in the next two weeks. My guess, it will come shining through like a champ......
Great video just put mine on pre order
They area really fun bike to ride.......
Looks like a lot of fun. I just bought a V strom 650 here in Australia because the CT 125 is unavailable for at least 12 months.
In another 12 months, you might just buy one because everyone else is having so much fun on them......
Vstrom - great bike , you wont be sorry you bought one .
@@TeamDNFracing it costs $7000 in Australia
Might be fun but it hurts
@@tristan6509 If I didn't live in Thailand, I might not of bought the bike just because of the outrageous prices that are being collected in Australia and the US....... However, it is a really fun bike.....
Eddie it looks like you may have it sir, the bike is running awesome. I bet I can't get one installed in VA for 33 bucks but I'll try. I miss living overseas where people charged what the job is worth not what they want. Have a great day. I am starting to record my rides, it is not as easy as you make it look. Check out my first ride but be kind sir. LOL
As soon as I finish with the comments, I'll look it up and watch it. I don't believe in leaving nasty comments on CZcams, so be prepared for a kudos on yours..... And once again, thanks for taking the time to leave a comment......
@@TeamDNFracing Thanks Eddie.
I love how he's in full gear with gloves and everything while people around him are only in slippers and T-shirts lol
Such is life in the tropics,,,,, I love it here........ Thanks for the comment.......
Nice man
The more it with this kit on it, the more I like this bike....
Honda should offer the big bore as an option, also a passenger seat and pegs as another option. Hard to understand the rather high $3900+ price if Honda wants to sell a lot of these bikes.
Great upgrade...
I believe it will be what I need for here in Northern Thailand.......
Yes it is, and it's the Best option that Available to Increase the Power of the Engine...Actually I'm looking to buy a Adventure motorbike for My Adventure traveling through countries, do you recon this bike for longer travels (Let say 600KM per day), i like this bike because it's cheap and very easy to maintain...
@@nilushkodagoda250 I was a little tired and ready for a rest after a 220 Kilometer ride in the mountains one day. I don't think I could have done 600 K in a day and been able to ride the next day. However, the bike never let me down during any of my rides in the stock form. I've still got to do some regular riding on the modified version before I can say the same for it.......
the big bore kit and the sproket change was the first thing i thought, i didnt think anyone would do it, but alas the man himself did it. Thanks for this, it seems to grant more,im definitely sold on doing this. I was thinking getting one bigger but for what i need it for this bike is just right with these mods. Also, try to make affiliate links to parts you buy, it make it easy for us viewers to buy the parts and puts some coin in your pocket. quick question, how is fuel usage after the kit was on?
Once I get all the mods done, I'm going to do a video on everything I've done to the bike with costs and links to where I got them from. The fuel tests will be coming in a couple weeks when I make my first trip back to the Sticky Falls location which I did a fuel test with the bike stock.......
Could you share the manufacturer of big bore kit? Great videos and looks like it really pulls well. Safe travels!
The big bore kit was purchased from an on line shopping network called Shopee, the link to it is in the video that I made a couple days ago where I revealed that I had gotten the big bore kit. However, the company that has them for sale on the on line shopping network is Itimgarage. The kit is advertised as 142cc bore up kit. Here is the link to the item on the on line shopping network: shopee.co.th/(-CT125)-%E0%B8%8A%E0%B8%B8%E0%B8%94%E0%B8%84%E0%B8%B4%E0%B8%97-142-cc-Honda-CT125-by-Itimgarage-i.107474676.7445181572
Nice video.
Thank you.......
600 miles was breaking mileage on my bike. It lets the components and internals get in their grooves. Metal expands and contracts. You don't wanna mess up any tolerances or you'll have engine troubles. But I'm sure you know that
I've never been one to just rod the piss out of them from the start. That has always worked for me so I've stuck with it.......
Dear Sir,a fan from Chicago here,my question is about the bag or storage that’s on the front rack,could you share where it came from,thank you and please keep on posting videos!! And enjoy your retirement…..🤙🏽
It is a carry bag made for a Honda Cub, your Honda dealers should be able to get you one of these. I bought mine from an on line shopping network here in Thailand and they won't ship overseas. Look up Shopee.co.th which is the network and find the bag and take a still photo with your phone and show it to your Honda dealer.... Good luck and thanks for the comment......
Thai people know how to big bore these engines, here in Brazil we do have something similar to CT 125 it's called pop 110i, very powerful bike.
Nice video sir
Thank you......
It sounds like it pulls really good when you roll on the throttle.
Couldn't be more pleased with this Big Bore Kit, it really makes this bike do what I want it to do.....
I still hope to pick up my CT this week. The dealer got it, but wont let me pick it up until they change the shifter. Said some had recalls. I would have thought this one would have came in with that taken care of. No big deal. Its cold here in Virginia so I wont be riding it anyway. Do you recommend breaking in my new stock bike with the 6 cycle break in?
Good decision to mod the Hunter cub. Hope it works well long term.
Good mechanic, good parts, fingers crossed and then my wife just said to me: Why didn't you just buy a bigger bike? I couldn't answer that one.......
@@TeamDNFracing can't imagine there's a more practical option that's fun to ride and convenient to zip over to the market. Scooters are boring and I'm not sure I'd want to fire up the africa twin to grab some groceries.
@@steeve1 I've had four other scooters here since I made the move, none of them put the smile on my face like the CT125 has. I believe the smile is going to turn into a teeth showing grin with this big bore kit on it though. This is probably the funnest bike I have ever owned.......
Loving the videos. About to buy a new CT125 and want to do most of the mods you've done. Where did you get the parts from. I live in Buriram Thailand so I shouldn't have any problems. Cheers
Mike
Mike, thanks for the comment and it is so nice to be able to help someone get some of the accessories available here in Thailand. Go to Shopee on the internet and type in CT125 in the search bar. It will give you about 25 pages of accessories to look through. Also, I bought some of my items from The Cub House here in Chiang Mai. They have several stores throughout Thailand so just search for them on the Internet.... Here is the link: Shopee.co.th.
Great video man! Are you on standard gearing now? (standard sprocket sizes)
I've got the 13 tooth countershaft sprocket on it right now, but that is going to be changing as I test all three to see which one will pull the best all around for the riding conditions for me here. I strongly believe the 14 will end up on the bike full time. I'd really like to keep the gearing stock as the hi way speed with it is adequate and the new found torque from the BB kit should let it pull second gear in the mountains now. I'm hoping that anyway......
My break-in system is drive it how I'm going to use it....never a problem.
There are a lot of people that do it that way and never have a problem also, I just want to make sure the piston and sleeve have a chance to expand and contract without getting to hot to soon is all. Thanks for the comment........
Stock Honda no problem's, after market parts its probably better to be safe and do a break in like this. But end of the day if it's yours do what you feel is best.
Hi from Australia. I’m a new subscriber. Really helpful info. Tell me though the 142 big bore kit is aftermarket. Is it Honda? Or some third party? What else was needed? I think I saw a new larger fuel injector came with the kit? I assume you would need to change the exhaust as well? I see you have. What brand exhaust? Anyway interested in all the changes needed to complete the big bore up grade. To date any issues with the upgrade and how many kms/miles have you done with it in?
Wow, good questions. I really should do an update video on the Big Bore Kit. The kit is put together from several different vendors. Honda is part of that with the two gaskets, head and base gaskets. The wrist pin and "C" clips are Honda as well. The Cylinder is a Honda exact match, whether it is Honda or a copy, I don't know but the sleeve in it is matched to the piston which is made by ART Pistons and the rings are also. I do believe the larger injector is Honda, but don't quote me on it. Not a lot to this kit, but the increase in Torque is what really impresses me, as well as just a small amount of HP and this little engine does come alive.....As for what really makes this a complete set up is I added an SKA air filter. It is very similar to a K&N filter. Lets the little engine suck more Oxygen for that larger piston. Without putting on a complete exhaust system to match the new air intake would defeat the entire build. I opted for a K-speed Diablo all black full exhaust system. Sounds mellow with a little bite to its bark. The entire system really livened up the power and now I can run stock sprockets and still maintain my top end, yet now the low end will pull steeper grades that before where a struggle in first gear sometimes. I'm not real sure what the cost would be for all of this in the US market, but I'm pretty sure, on my SS income, I wouldn't have been getting the Big Bore Kit and intake and exhaust mods, probably to expensive for me..... I will be doing a video on it within the next two weeks to let everyone know what all I've experienced with the BBK and what all I had to do to get where I'm at now......
I have had Honda motorcycles since I was a teenager I own A couple now Honda always builds things for reliability I wonder why Honda if they thought it was a good idea they didn't put in a bigger piston at the factory. I have seen friends over the years try to hot rod there motorcycles with big bored kits Exhaust systems cams And it never worked out good they were never as reliable as coming from the factory stock. The engineers at Honda are not dummies they build motorcycles For reliability, Good luck
Good comment, but Honda has to conform to emissions all over the world and so to conform to those emissions standards, they can't always produce an engine that performs like those of us who want a little more power. They also build to sale, not always to perform. The bottom line is profits, and this bike is making them profits, lots of profits. It is also targeted at older riders who have that nostalgic thoughts of the bikes of yesteryear and for those who really don't want to take the bike off road. Me, I want it to perform, as delivered this bike does not perform, so I made it to fit my needs. I really like the bike now, but Honda could have built this same bike and charged more for it and it would have been worth the extra money..... As for the Big Bore Kit that I installed, they have been making these kits in Thailand for a decade now for this particular engine model. It has proven to be very reliable, and it works......
Nice Bike and Mods you put into it. Can you share where can we purchase the accessories you have on it , Thanks .
I have a video out on all the accessories I've installed on it. I believe in that video I told where I got all the stuff from. Bad thing is, most of it is not available to US buyers as I can't seem to find places around here that are willing to ship overseas.......
What kind of bag do you have sitting right in front of the seat..... Which would normally be a tank bag
Is it supposed to be heavily modified for a 125 cc ? Pulls ? Please explain differently?seems solid 👍how many gears do you have ?
Sorry for such a late response to your comment.... The bike has a noticeably stronger amount of torque than stock and this is what I mean by it pulls. With more torque, the bike will continue to gain RPM's while going up an incline from a lower gear where the stock engine would start to fall off the RPM's in the same locations. I have done nothing with the stock transmission, it still only has the four gears. However, I have played around with the final gearing with sprocket changes and have settled on continuing to use the stock 14T countershaft sprocket but adding a 42T rear sprocket instead of the stock 39T sprocket. That gives the bike more low end grunt and takes a little bit (very little) off the top end. So basically, it will now pull itself and me up more steep grades without powering out. Most of that comes from the Big Bore Kit and then the lower gearing of the sprockets helps also. If you can't get a Big Bore Kit for your bike, I strongly suggest going to a 42T rear sprocket over the stock 39T sprocket. You will notice a difference with just this addition. The rear sprocket I got is from a Honda Wave 125i model bike. Ask you Honda dealer to look up a rear sprocket for that model (years 2013 to 2020) and that sprocket is the exact bolt pattern as the Honda CT 125......
Wow Thailand is amazingly beautiful
will the fuel mixture adjust itself or is it set for the 125 cc., will it run lean ? Still haven't got these in the UK. because of this covid nonsense. Thanks from the UK
The kit came with a larger injector which throws more fuel into the combustion chamber than the stock one. I've had no issues with load backfiring, popping sounds or the engine running hot. The ECU seems to adjust ok for the elevation I'm currently at. Won't know about the mountains until I put some more Kilometers on this new piston. Probably be next week some time before I make a trip up into the mountains......
I wanted to ask you also about the stock fuel injector? Did you have to modify it at all, or replace it?
The kit came with a larger fuel injector, it was a install and nothing else. Works great.......
Where did you get that exact big bore kit ? I want it for my 2022 CT125
Howdy from Liberty OK
Right back at ya......
So apart the fuel injector that comes with the kit, did you made any changes to the fuel mixture using some kind of fuel controller? And what’s the estimate Hp with this Kit?
Good question: The larger fuel injector seems to handle the fuel needs just fine. I did install an SKA air filter with a modified air intake cone in place of the stock snorkel tube to the rear rack for better air flow into the engine. The fuel injection system adjusts fuel output to air intake to give the optimum fuel/air mixture. These mods seem to work very good so far. I've installed an aftermarket Diablo by K-Speed exhaust system on it as well. With the added air intake, fuel injector and larger exhaust system, the dyono readings for the Big Bore Kit were as follows: : : : 9.4 HP @ 7,083 RPM and 11.9 Nm @ 5,430 RPM. Stock HP is 8.0 and Torque is 10.0 so the increase is 17.5% HP and 19.0% Torque. These are big numbers for this small of an engine....
@@boosted. There are some really good aftermarket companies here in Thailand that specialize in this engine design. It's amazing at some of the speeds the bikes with this engine can do........
That is a great price for parts n service!!! Ok, I put a 181cc kit on my honda monkey. I suggest u get the Opmid oil temp gauge that fits perfect on the handle bar bracket. Don't go over 245F! I rode mine without the temp gauge at the time, from Salt Lake city down to moab utah n the piston melted/cracked n threw pieces out ( n that was downhill at 95degrees). Ur at similar temps n going uphill. That will be risky.. Trust me, my temp gauge shoots up fast when climbing. Kitaco super oil pump wouldnt hurt either. If your engine stays cool enough, I wldnt touch anything else or ur looking at ecu modifications. But if u want more more power, replace the cam and get the DHM ecu from DHMotoring for $100. Yes he is young and does racing but he knows his stuff n will program ur ecu exactly to the engine mods. If you need to carry more stuff when u ride, have a local thail build the Sherpax trailer from Kipmoto for you. I love mine with my monkey. :) thx
Don't really need anymore power than what the 142 kit gave me. I'm impressed with the overall performance of it now. You're not the first one that I've heard of that fried the 181 kitted engine. I've got a 1,000 Kilometers on the BBK now and I've not had any over heating problems with it. Won't be putting a trailer on this bike, don't stay out over night so really what I can haul in my backpack is enough for my trips. Thanks for the comment and be sure to tune in for some more of our rides......
@@TeamDNFracing absolutely. My thai wife grew up in Bangkok but went to Bangsaen for college so I have been looking to live by her college or pattaya area. But chang mai was second on my list. Having less nightlife in CM is a drawback. Hmmmm. Perhaps I should reconsider because doing daily hill trails really interests me. Ur living my dream :)
@@ka509 I'm having a blast with this bike and my wife is ok with me going on adventure rides once a week. She is pretty special. If you're ever up by Chiang Mai, look me up......
@@TeamDNFracing nice. We travel in thailand every year for the last 6 years except this one. Im gonna go through all your library clips so that i don't ask questions u have already posted. Fyi it is awful here in Chicago.
R.O.Is Honda making the Big Bore kit, if so is there a parts #, can someone from the U.S .buy the kit, from where you bought yours, and do they speak english??? keep up the great work, Jerry D.
Honda does not make this kit. The cylinder is Honda, the gaskets are Honda, the wrist pin and clips are Honda. The Cylinder sleeve, Piston and rings are from a Thailand company called Art. Look them up on line, you may be able to get them to ship the items to you. I shared a link in the description about the company I bought the kit from. Someone commented that they tried to buy the kit, but they would not ship it to the US. I believe you are going to have to get a kit from a dealer in the US that can import some.....
I wish Honda would make this in a 150 or 175. Living in the US I would like a little more speed than the stock 125 provides, which seems to be around 50 mph from the videos I've watched. I'm currently leaning toward the Yamaha TW200 though I like some of the features of the Honda better.
It would be nice if they had of put a 175cc engine in it. I know there are a lot of people that would like the extra speed. I was just originally disappointed with the lack of low end power. With my Big Bore Kit in it, that problem has been solved. I don't really go over about 50 MPH anymore and I only do that speed when I'm heading to the mountains to go trail riding. Not real sure I'd feel comfortable going any faster than that on the bike..........
Recomandation for a good rodage at new big bore kit:
1- Don't leave your motor at idle speed for a long time (more than 5...10 sec.). This motor have a small oil pump and she don't up inaf amount of oil at low rpm. at crankshaft, back piston and camshaft.
2- About you run with speed some kms, you don't stop your bike imediately. Leave the bike to run with slow speed last km. If you stop the bike very quickly, the motor don't have cooling...and the piston rise up he's dimension to much. Is not good!
3- If you go up to the mountain, don't go up very long time in 2-th or 3-th gear! The motor don't have inaf cooling and the piston he melt and glue to the bore. Leave the motor to cool at the edge at road some minutes at 2-3km to go up.
4- The rodage keep 3-4000 km, but the first 500 km is very important! In this period, you go near the top speed for 2-3sec and leave the motor to run at medium speed for 1-2km to cool...And another...
5- After rodage I recomand you to put in your motor full-sintetic oil (Motul 300V-double ester series...is a very good motor oil...is better!).
6- At every oil change oil you must wash the centrifugal oil filter case, and the oil pump filter!!! Is very important!!!!!! This motor don't have a paper oil filter and the oil acumulate in his self many mud and clutch residual particles...This remain in pump filter and in centrifugal oil filter... Many users don't make this operation and goes out his motors!
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I love your bike! I love CT125! Your bike luck great... run's very well with the new "big bore kit" and with 15 teth sproket! And she's sound is very nice! Is a good combination!
Where did you get that bag for the center frame rack?
I got the bag from an on-line shopping network here in Thailand. It is called shop.co.th and they have a policy of not shipping out of Southeast Asia, so it is hard to get items from here to overseas locations. You might try Beezdeals and see if they have them. The one I got was for a Honda Super Cub......
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Denada , , , Hope I spelled that right...... Thanks.....
So what is the too speed with the big Bore kit and your gearing?
Don't know, haven't opened up the throttle past half way yet. My guess is it will be very similar to stock as the gearing will be the stock gearing and the big bore kit will not make it go any faster speeds as much as it will get there quicker and pull stronger under a load. I don't plan on doing top speed tests on the bike as I don't really need to go faster than about 85KPH on the Thai roads. My reason for the big bore kit is to be able to run the hi way speed of 85KPH and then still be able to climb the twisty and steep mountain roads without having to drop down to first gear all the time.......
I wonder how much the heavier piston might affect the crankshaft balance.
One of our three BBK installs has 12,000 Kilometers on it and mine has 9,000 Kilometers on it and they are still going strong with no noise, vibrations or funny sounds coming from the engines..... You have to remember back 50 years ago, we would bore out the bikes cylinders 1st, 2nd, 3rd and even 4th over when they wore out. Never had crank problems back then, still don't.... Hope this answers your comment, the extra weight is very minimal.....
So do you think big bore without cog changes is the way to go?, can you go bigger?
I assume by cog changes you are talking about are the sprockets. I believe the Big Bore kit will give it the added Torque it needs to pull steep grades with the stock 14 tooth countershaft sprocket on it. I won't know for sure until I get up in the mountains with it and before I do that, I want to put a few hundred Kilometers on it in the flat lands. Before I go up in the mountains, I will be doing some tests with it and the 13, 14 & 15 tooth sprockets. Keep watching and I'll get these tests done as soon as I can.......
what front and rear sprocket size are you using during this video?
The rear sprocket is the stock 39 tooth and the front is the 13 tooth sprocket. The reason it is on there is I'm going to be doing tests with the 13, 14 & 15 tooth countershaft sprockets and I want to save the stock 14 for last as I believe it will give me the best of hi way and mountain roads now that I have the big bore kit on it.
How much is the gasoline in your area?
I’m in Krapramento, California the Krapital/Krapitol and Costco & Sam’s are about $4.19/ 87 Octane gallon.
Is your gas readily available AND good quality?
Thanx
Thailand imports all of its gasoline and I've never had any problem getting all I want. We can even still get no-lead (they call it Benzene) for 22 Baht a liter. The Baht is 32 per US dollar. So basically less than $4.00 US per gallon......
Nice👍 How does it change the bike's too cruising speed on paved roads?
Sorry to say, this BBK installation did not have any change on the cruising speed of the bike. It did improve the low end power delivery quite a bit, we gained in torque and that is really what we were after with adding the 143cc BBK. However, this is a fairly early video on the changes we did to make the Honda CT 125 into the machine that Honda should have made. From this stage here, we installed a Hot Cam, an ECU from an MSX/Grom which can be re-mapped to increase the HP and "SPEED" of the bike. We couldn't just add these items and have the bike perform the way we wanted it to, so we also had the entire head ported. That means the combustion chamber was ported to lower the compression which was increased beyond the bikes capabilities with the addition of the much larger piston and cylinder sleeve from the BBK. The air intake on the head was ported, the fuel intake on the head was ported, the exhaust port on the head was ported. We even had the butterfly valve in the throttle body replaced with a larger one as well as installing a new SS air intake tube with an SKA air filter. All of these items were needed to stop the pre-ignition knock we developed on two of the three bikes we used in our testing. The one bike that didn't have the pre-ignition knock was always run on high octane gasoline so maybe that kept it from developing the knock. With the mods that we now have on the bike, it will go over 115 KPH and cruise nicely at the 90 KPH range with throttle to spare. I don't recommend running these speeds down the highway for this reason. It is not a road bike, it was never meant to run highway speeds and is geared that way. It was always meant to be able to ride from your home, to the trails and if that meant you had to run some highway, so be it, but it was never meant to sustain those speeds for any length of time... So in our experiments with this bike, top speed has never been what we are trying for. We've always just wanted to be able to go to the trails and rip up some dirt. The way our bikes are now, we can do that very easily......
@@TeamDNFracing Thanks so much for these details. Really useful information. My max speed is 110 kmh. I like this bike as it is light enough, and it can carry a bit of cargo like a sleep tent, some food/water.
@@MS-ji6oj I really like these bikes even with their shortfalls that Honda could have changed to make the bike even better. I like the extra power my bike does now have, but the only time I really use it is on the off road riding trips, which it really comes in handy. I have set my bike up to where I can carry my sleeping bag, a tent and a small cooking setup as camping equipment. Don't really need a chair of any home comforts, so this bike handles the choirs very good. Plus the bike gets great fuel economy and is not real heavy when you tip over with it.... Some good points about a small Adventure bike like the CT....
i found 4 and by the time i called them at 9 am today when they opened they was already sold. even the one that i talked to yesterday that said he could ship it me said while he was trying to get a rate someone else sold it.
That sucks, getting one sold out from under you.... Good luck getting one and when you do, you'll love it, they are a fun bike to ride anywhere.......
A like Honda Ct 125.
This has to be one of the most fun bikes I've ever owned....... So much fun to ride......
What does this kit do to your top speed? I didn't see anything about that
Very little change in top speed. I got way more low end pull off it though and that is what I was looking for as the mountain roads and trails here in Thailand sap the power quickly off this little engine. Still won't go much faster than 60MPH on flat hi-ways. With the way Honda has this bike geared and set up for MPG instead of speed, it will take a larger piston, different gearing and a camshaft to get more speed from it. I don't like taking a small engine like this and pegging the throttle and leaving it there and that is what it takes to get top-end speed runs. It does cruise comfortably between 45 and 50 MPH though. The big gain with the kit was Torque and that is what I was after.... Thanks for the comment.... There is a guy in Japan who has worked his engine over pretty good and claims he is getting over 70 MPH out of his now, but I'm not real sure what all he has done to it. His name is Fumio, not sure of his last name, but see if you can find him on CZcams and check his videos out......
@@TeamDNFracing thank you for the explanation. I have a stock 2021 CT125 and currently looking at some performance mods. Enjoy your videos, keep 'em coming!
thanks for sharing your thoughts and upgrade. do you think it is possible to buy this motorcycle in thailand as a foreigner and travel to Australia (and visit south east asia on the way...)?
When Jonny Mac visited, he purchased a Honda CT 125 to tour around Thailand. If he can get one, I don't see any reason why you couldn't get one also and then have it shipped across from place to place and then to Australia. Might cost a bit for shipping, but it would make one hell of an adventure.......
@@TeamDNFracing thanks for taking time to respond, I appreciate it. When you buy a bike in Thailand, don't you need a local address and a local insurance for the license plate?
@@thotbanks922 I really don't know, both of my bikes are in my Thai wife's name. However, a friend that used to live here, bought his bike in his name, not sure about the insurance on it. I do know you can get an insurance policy from the dealer when you buy the bike and it isn't very expensive. I don't see any reason why you couldn't buy the bike and insure it through the dealer. Would be a fun experience traveling through South East Asia on one.......
Can you explain what a heat cycle consists of? How long is it, etc. thanks
Sure, here goes: One heat cycle consists of starting with a cold engine to the touch of your hand. Start the bike up, let it warm for a few minutes. Have a set course to go ride the bike on, mine is about 5 Kilometers long. Ride the course using no more than half throttle and shift through the entire gear range. Speed is not an issue here as the throttle amount is. Don't over throttle the bike. In a 5 Kilometer ride, the bike will get up to operating temperature and stay there. At the end of the ride, shut off the bike and let it cool down naturally. Should take less than an hour, but I give mine at least an hour. Once the bikes engine is back to cold to the touch, you can begin another heat cycle. I do this six times which allows the different metals in the engine to heat up and either expanding or contract to what heating and cooling would naturally happen without being overly stressed. After six heat cycles, the bike can be ridden more aggressively but I would not do prolonged throttle settings until I have put about 200 Kilometers on the bike. That is breaking a bikes engine in a heat cycle method. Hope this helps......
I have the same bike here in the Colorado. I contacted the company from the link you posted and they will not ship to the states...Any other options you know of that would ship to the States? Thanks!
Man that sucks. I'd be getting in touch with any aftermarket companies in the states that makes sleeves and pistons and put your own kit together. Honda may be able to supply you with a new cylinder. If you can get that, they will also have the base gasket, head gasket, wrist pin and clips. Someone has to make sleeves that will fit this engine and do a bore job with a piston for you. Get on line and start shopping for aftermarket supplies for this particular engine. The Honda Wave, Monkey, Grom and CT all have the same upper end, to this engine design, just different lower ends components. Check your Honda dealer for big bore kits for the Monkey and Grom, there should be something at least for those two bikes in the states as they have been there for a while. Let me know how it goes so I can pass the word around........
@@TeamDNFracing Okay will do. There are some other companies that offer Big bore kits from 143cc-186 like Koso and Takegawa. They all recommend aftermarket oil coolers, remapping the ECU for correct fuel ratios. I just didn't want to get into that. I am really curious how you like yours and your report once its broken in. I was hoping for just a plug and play unit like the one you have. I will let you know what I find out.
I was looking at Phillipines myself, Texan in Philly, it's getting expensive around this joint.
That is the reason I retired to Thailand. Way to expensive to live off of SS in the states. I've got a pretty good thing here, so I don't expect to be back in the states any time soon......
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Thank you........
from this point of view it looks like an Honda Ruckus
Na, the tires are to big for a Rukus...... ;-).
Great video and it seems the bb kit really helped it. Have you ridden a monkey 125 and how do you think it would compare to the ct?
I have not ridden the Monkey bike, but I would assume with the clutch it would be snappier than the CT125. Same engine basically, but being able to rev the engine to power out of stuff is a huge advantage. Now the sad news. Here in Thailand the Monkey is 105,000 Thai Baht as the CT125 is 86,900 Thai Baht. Go figure!
Thanks for your reply. They are more expensive here in the USA. I live in Arkansas 45min from Memphis across the Mississippi river north east and 45min from Mississippi going south east across the river. I've check prices in all three states. The ct125 abs is 3999 and on waiting list until Jan and April. The monkey from 2019 to 2021 are 3999 and abs model is 4199. I'm currently riding a 09 ttr230 Yamaha..looking for something street legal and definitely more comfortable to rear. lol. I live in Farm country and plenty turnrows to ride.as well as woods and hill climb trails. Have two kid's and we all ride together and love it. I love the country side there in Thailand. My wife is Philippino. I've ridden he Honda wave 100 and 125 over there in the Philippines. Loved the wave 125. Tired everything to get one here but couldn't. Now trying to decide between the monkey and the ct125. Watched every video I can find to compare them. Happy riding, Keith
@@keithtrent4446 I've had two Honda Wave 125i and they are really good machines, just not near as fun to ride as the CT125. Hope you get one soon, your whole family will love it......
Made mistake on the ct125 price. It's $3899 not 3999. Before taxes. Got a call today from a dealer this evening. Said they just got one in. Going to go check it out tomorrow. Bad side is its already sold.
@@keithtrent4446 Going and seeing it is just going to make you drool all over yourself. Best stuff a rag in your mouth and wear a mask so people don't see you drooling.....Smart dealer, "come see it, you'll like it, you'll want one and buy it".....However, you won't regret getting one, they really are a blast to ride......
I think instead of modifying the bike you should have just bought a Honda CRF450RL as a second bike. They weight almost identical. The CRF450RL would provide the most capabilities for your location. Then just use the CT125 when your riding around town.
I don't think his mods add up to even a few payments on a CRF450RL lol.
There are several reasons I bought the CT125 over a CRF450RL. My desire to go rocket ship speed has long left my ability to hang on to such speed. Old age has managed to make my once super bulked up body into a shriveled up pile of skin, bones and fat. After so many years of riding and racing bikes, quads and doing extreme sports, my joints are no longer joining in on the fun. The left knee is to the point of I don't know when it is going to pop out of joint as much as I know it is going to do it when I'm in front of a bunch of people. Once I have fallen, I'm that person who is yelling "Help, I've fallen and I can't get up". Honestly, it's that bad. It is much more reassuring to know that when I put one of my feet on the ground, the other one will also reach the ground with the CT125, not so with the CRF. More than anything though, my wife said she doesn't have enough money to pay for a bigger bikes life insurance policy. So I bought the Honda CT125. Ok, ok. Actually I like the bike, but I can do things to this bike here, that just aren't financially possible in the states. This engine design has been around here for decades and there are literally millions of them in the Asian countries. There are also an unlimited supply of after market companies for bikes like this here that are not readily available in the states. It's amazing some of the modded bikes that are in Thailand alone. There are those in the states that will do similar things to their CT125, if I can help them to not make mistakes on their mods, then I've done something. Plus, I enjoy doing this and this bike is so much fun to ride, it won't be leaving my possession anytime soon...... Watch my video on my last trip to the mountains a couple weeks ago. One of our group fell over on her CRF and I helped get it back up and to our parking spot next to the coffee shop. I dodged several questions then on when I was going to get the CRF250. Good comment though, keep them coming......
@@TeamDNFracing LOL just giving you a hard time for moding the bike. I had a CT90 as a kid and as soon as the CT125 makes it to Austin, I'm getting one.
@@MarkWatsonSMTX I hope you don't have to wait to long, because you will be missing out on some serious fun factor riding. Going riding today, doing another video also, so be sure to check it out...... Thanks for the comments, I try my best to answer them all but I know I've missed a couple.......
@@wootks You're right.......
I put a 190 cc 5 speed in mine :)
Well that should rip down the road pretty good.......
How ?
I’m going to put a 350 v 8 in mine auto
You would know the answer to this. Do you the trail 125 would fit into a Uhaul cargo van? I pick mine up dec 12th.
Should fit in the cargo van with ease. Do you know of anyone with a pickup truck that would go with you to get the bike? Might be easier to get in a pickup.....
@@TeamDNFracing unfortunately not.
@@nathanburns5153 In that case, the van will have to do.. Should be okay......
Post more videos of u riding some city streets
We just took a road trip with the CT's and I've still got to edit it, coming soon......