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I can’t for my life understand Arsenal-fans going after Steve, he’s had the most sober opinions of Arsenal for years now. Big up everyone in the panel and congratulations to City, a true juggernaut of English football. We go again next season, coyg!
You should know his views aren't so sober on other platforms. That might explain why Arsenal fans have a go at him.
@@franklingoodwin I can only go on what I’ve seen myself the last couple of years and by that metric his opinions have been the most sober.
@@franklingoodwinhe really only has a go at any rival club when the fans start chatting and trolling, which is very understandable
Occasionally shots taken from time to time but it’s easy to tell when he’s out to rattle
because steve makes out like he IS MAN CITY. Like his whole life is fked if man city dont succeed. He's started to humble himself more recently, maybe hes finally realised when man city win it isnt HIS ACHEIVEMENT OR FAILURE.
He is hypocrite
You should see what he says when talking to United and Liverpool fans
So glad us city supporters have big Steve as a representative of the club on these shows.
You don't even know who Shaun goater is 😂😂😂😂 you are bot a citeh fan
@@JackButland-tt9zk ohhh yeh really got me with that one 😢😢😢
I like that Steve bloke, he does talk a lot of sense and knows football. Shoutout to Turkish, I’ve always respected his opinions. COYG
No he doesn't and you're not real
Love Big Steve and how he keeps it real
Respect to Big Steve as always,not seen him for ages!
Yes Big Steve. Guy is a legend. Proper blue.
Big Steve is a baller 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Best league in the world. This is my favorite panel and I look forward to these shows because it's not just people talking over eachother and arguing. You guys are class. Toda madre! -mexican gooner.
Respect to the panel….Big Steve so logical….what a stream….i enjoyed every bit 🫶🏿
I agree with Steve about our striker position, yes we have scored a lot of goals but we need that difference maker in those close games, City away, Bayern, thats where the Haalands and Kanes step up, one chance and those games turn into wins
haaland doesnt score against big teams.
Kane never steps up you clown look at his record
How many goals did Kane score in the knockouts this year?
@@anch2602he’s
Scored against every team in the prem is that big enough
Really good show guys I'll defo be back for more a this! 🔥
That scouser has usually been quite balanced when i've seen him on here, but his head's gone today... he's let his emotions get the better of him, and he's also let the media whip up those emotions.
Saying Jurgen's one of the best ever? Come on... he's a great manager, but not one of the best ever... is he even top five Liverpool managers? Shankly, Paisley, Dalglish...
He tells Steve to calm down, but he's the calm one... he bangs on about resources but Liverpool have had as much resources as City - if their owners won't spend it, that's not City's fault... Plus from around 1960 till 1992 they had more than anyone else in the league.
This is what we do big up Big Steve
Real Manc, Real Scouser, Real North Londoner, how it should be 💯
How many real manc, real scousers or real north londoners in the players or coaching staff?
Incredible xenophobia on show. You massive pleb 😊
@@tamberlame27 what’s that got to do with my comment?
Word lol, fans like Steve are probably the only City fans I take seriously, cause he’s been there from the dark days
2 real big UCL winning clubs and a small one from North London
Respect Turkish… not like some Arsenal fans who don’t see no progress… I’m sure I’m older than most of them and I know what it takes To win but I’m not ArtetaOut
Lee gunner talks absolutely nonsense, he says arteta is trash but arsenal have lost one prem game in 2024...
I can’t remember the last time I watched his channel bro
@@seunafolabi1672 its getting worse lol, hes seen that saying sack atreta gets views and is now doing daily vids about it..
Big up the panel great content .
Great show. Good to hear the arsenal and liverpool persoective.
Not over yet, one more win. I hope we can do it and i have faith in pep and the team. Whatever happens im proud of city.
I love this show!
good stuff
Didn’t know Turkish had Irish in him big up ⬆️
The Liverpool violins "we haven't got the resources of ...." -- Everyone remembers last summer when they tried that 100+ million move for Caiceido --- they have had plenty of money.
Liverpool going on like they don’t spend huge when they do ha ha
We spent 700 million in 10 years and won everything arsenal and utd spent 2 Billion since 2016 transfer market website to check for your self
Klopp is beloved. Pep is a tool who is respected. Same thing about the teams. Liverpool is class and the history is amazing. Man City amazing team not likeable or relatable. Its about the feeling they bring out of football fans. Klopp is a legend and someone any player would die to play for. Pep is feared. To me it’s not all about trophies - no it’s about the feeling that arises in your heart. There is something that’s is just “off” about Man City. I’m an Arsenal fan btw.
ONLY THINGS THATS OFF IS YOUR JEALOUSY OF CITY BUT GUESS WHAT WE GETTING FOURPEAT AFTER TREBLE WHERE IS YOURS ?? 🖕🖕🖕🩵🦈🦈🩸🩸🦈🦈🔝🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🔝🔥🦈🩸🦈🩸🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️
This show is fire
I agree about the cup competition thing. A striker helps with these things
Wenger was amazing, he did incredible things in the Premier League. Winning titles at rivals ground.
It’s an average of 91 points to win the league atm and pep is a genius!
I’m a Gooner and the only person who’s come close to him in 2 season is his apprentice arteta because arteta learnt from pep simple as that!!!
Welldone city 👏 Hate it but welldone
We were basically as close this season as you were last, fell off in the last month.
115 charges fc and you're saying well done when they have cheated for years?
Not close enough was it lol
best trio in the biz
Turkish, what’s the “Extra” that u taking about? I can’t never find it
Such a matured conversation unlike those clowns on DR sports
COME ON CITYYTTT
There are only 3 PL managers who have won all 4 major trophies with an English side - Pep, Alex Ferguson and Klopp.
10:15 Lets not forget we have been on the end of it vs Madrid, 3 goals after the 90th minute 😭 I guess it’s not quite the same though because it wasn’t a final or title deciding game.
Imagine someone had the nerve to try and downplay Pep on his way out, Steve would lose his head.
Even as a City fan, I found it strange how much he wanted to downplay Klopp at the end of this show. It seems like he was just getting irritated at the media love-in that him and Liverpool have been getting over the past few years and he let it carry over into the show. I get some of the points he made but it came off pretty harsh.
@@danielcarbaugh4354 Was very strange, i like Steves opinions most of the time but it seems sometimes he goes of on a twitter fan style rant.
If you checked Man City’s player salary you’d see it’s not even close to the other PL teams. There’s still a big divide and everyone’s playing catch up
Klopp has 3 of the top 10 highest points tallies in PL history. If Wenger and Mourinho’s teams existed in the era of Pep they would have won less as well
Why do I have a feeling Steve is holding back on some of what the two panels were saying.
Because he was
He always takes it easy on these two which is annoying!
There's always context with rivals, money, squad size. Its great to know because it means I can discard Liverpool's entire history, 80's era, Gerrard Istanbul all because they spent more than my club. Good to know
20:45 Feels FC
Gotta love the whole the richest team always wins the league argument. I mean if that's the case how Leicester won it ill never know but more importantly Manchester United until recently were the richest team in the premier league (until 2023 when City surpassed them according to Deloitte's own rankings). Yet they been no way near the title since Fergie left. Resources are only part of the game, managers and buying well is more important. Also nobody ever mentioned that Spurs has an actual BILLIONAIRE bankrolling them (joe Lewis) yet they constantly win nothing.
from the second i for the first time heard tottenham were the supposed title deciders i laughed knewing they were gonna loose their games unwards including chelsea
Saeed the goat
Why was this stream so Liverpool/City heavy when Arsenal can still win the title on Sunday?
From an outside perspectives as a Canadian Gooner; My assessment of the biggest clubs (in terms of titles/supporters: 1) MAN UTD 2) LIVERPOOL 3) ARSENAL 4) CHELSEA 5) MAN CITY 6) TOTTENHAM . I would like to hear what you lot in UK think. Is that order correct?
i thought steve and city fans didnt care ? looks like deep down despite all your noise ....................... YOU KNOW THE TRUTH
The truth is you've won nothing for 4 years after outspending them...
Also you have to start back from the city takeover because that’s when their spending actually took off. If you compared their spending now from when they were taken over in 2008, there would be no debate that city is cumulatively far ahead in terms of spend
Exactly. This nonsense of “oh Arteta has spent more than Pep since joining Arsenal” is cherry-picking at its best and leaves out context. Of course he’s spent more because he’s playing catch-up and City already had a massive headstart in terms of finances and talent at their disposal. So, obviously Arteta has had to spend more in order to challenge City and make up for all them years when Arsenal were financially-stifled due to paying for the new Emirates stadium and were forced to sell their prized assets to rivals. Arsenal sold the likes of Clichy, Sagna, Kolo Toure, Nasri, and Adebayor to City all in a span of 5 years, which helped build them into the juggernauts they are now. Those were dark times. Swear people have short memories.
Exactly that spending built the foundations but people like to disregard it
Steve turned nasty as soon as James started talking about Klop and how special he is to Liverpool.
What’s James doing in this chat 😂
5:30 wrong. Klopp would not have the premier league titles if Pep was not there. The reason Klopp is where he is, is SOLELY, because Pep was in charge of man city. There is no saying if there wasn’t Man City or the top team that the second place team would finish 2nd
Kloop is a baby coach in EPL, just a passion merchant. 1 COVID tittle in 8 years? And you want to put him over the Wenger and the special one??. Kloop is in the bracket with Claudio R.
Twerkish crying .love to see it. Congratulations Steve .thank you 💙😢 😂😂😂
We couldn’t cut the annoying one out considering his club isn’t in title contention ?
all your Arsenal reps are loud mouthed blerts, James speaks knowledge.
I've found a solution for you all.
Let Ten Hag stay and consider sacking him at the end of next season. Use the next season to offload as many players as you can and get rid of the ones who have been there the longest.
It's not healthy having a team whose players have served under so many managers. With each new manager, you get new players, and the cycle never ends.
This Arsenal fans tears are too sweet😘😘😘😘
James here for vibes
BIG STEVE KNOWS HIS FOOTBALL HE SUPPORTS A JUGGERNAUT LIKE I DO PEOPLE WHO SAY CHEATS 115 US CITY FANS DONT GIVE A SHIT 🩵🦈🩸🦈🩸🔝🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️🛢️
For a grown ass man Steve debates like these kids on social medial. I absolutely hate Lpool but to disregard Klopp is crazy, top tier manager & a PL legend for sure. Disagree with James that he’s ahead of Mourinho & Wenger tho. I cannot wait for city to be little citeh again to humble these fans
I think you’re just a little too obsessed with little citeh, but we will be fine whatever happens lad
He didn't disregard klopp he Said he's the 5th best premier league manager of all time.
That's praise for a manager that only won one.
But at liverpools peak we were told they had the best keeper, cb, lb, rb, and best 3 forwards.
Klopp should have won more and yes it's fine margins.
Liverpool fans view him differently, the same way city do about mancini.
@@madeinengland9488 115 charges. Next summer we will be there
@@NECinhocorrectly so they claimed that, they had the best in class in those positions. And yes he did disregard Klopp’s legacy at Lpool saying he isn’t a prem legend, he absolutely is
@@chesterton18 so a manager with so many of the best players in the world, let's say 7 (gk, cb, lb,rb, +3 forwards) and he only wins one pl in 9 years, plus on occasions finished 3rd or lower? Is that not under achievement? He finished below ole's united one season and and united last season.
Personally I don't particularly like klopp but rate him as a manager.
It's about opinions, klopp for me isn't a premier league legend. He gets extra credit for two second places, but also finished outside the top four more than once.
FFP introduced to limit the competition- nobody is that thick to not understand this. It was a norm, richest club used to dominate football with odd cases here and there. ManU, Liverpool, Barca, Madrid all did that. "Winning trophies with spending less" got glorified when city came in and ran the shop the best way it could be and other clubs were envy of the money, structure, sporting dominance. Now clubs instead of reaching in their pockets and investing are making their fans go after city instead of them. City is doing what they did for decades but now in social media era- crying and tears can be seen more.
The scouse accent😅
I can't catched what he said coz I don't understand u don't understand
Mr scouse you bottled the lead and the league!!!
Liverpool were 5 points clear weren’t they this season, is that not a bottle ?
Baby bottle that lad😅
The real story isn’t that City bought their league titles. Its that if they didn’t have all that money at the time Pep would never’ve went there.
Even after the 4th title people rather remember Pep, KDB and Haaland then the club they played for.
People rather want Liverpool and Arsenal win the league and thats just the 📠
The scouse lad going on about it’s not about trophies 🏆 what are you talking about? It’s trophies or nothing! Have some pride man 🩵 MCFC 🩵 Love Big Ste & Turkish
Steve with the blinkers on about his own club as always
You will get it when your club wins trophies year in year out😂
Literally everyone is like that with their own club, wind your neck in. You're telling me James and Turkish are totally unbiased when it comes to their clubs? Come on mate.
Klopp better than Wenger? Wenger changed the way the entire Premier league played!
James Redman absolutely deluded on Klopp. Wenger and Jose are levels above. It's about winning,not competing. What a muppet
It's not concrete that pep is leaving ,he can easily just stay for a long time ,not sure what Steve is referring to
As a city fan, the general feeling is that he’ll leave next summer (2025). What he does must be exhausting physically and emotionally, we saw Klopp eventually got burnt out and it’ll be the same with Pep. What Fergie did was pretty supernatural, I still don’t understand how he had the motivation to keep going another 14 years after the treble, he had nothing left to prove but kept going anyway. Not to mention Pep has family in Barcelona and he’s more accustomed to that sort of climate.
@@edenholt4394 okay sounds possible....in that case the most plausible destination is Girona for Pep and both clubs can just switch managers and everyone wins(city will have a drop-off but still a great manager the girona guy)
@@seadonrodrigues1819 No disrespect to Girona but I think it’s probably more likely that Pep would rather just take a break from managing. Maybe then in a couple years he returns to Barcelona? It’s weird because there’s not many big clubs where I can picture Pep going to, Barca or Spain are the only teams I can really see him being up for
Nobody respects Citys accomplishments, Big Up to the clubs and fans that do things the right way, Honor and Integrity!!!!
The Liverpool guy is jarring, cutting off everybody constantly and making zero actual points just absolute waffle. Quality from Big Steve as usual and Turkish not bad yaself
Why would Steve need to be humble? Hes about to do a 4peat? If you’re the best around arrogance comes with the territory
He couldn’t even run 5 yards😂
If Man City do secure 4 in a row after this weekend, then Arsenal fans should demand that Arteta gets sacked because he’s had two straight seasons where he had a chance to secure the league and he bottled it both times and has only one trophy secured overall during his tenure as manager of Arsenal.
Steve's arguments against Liverpool are so disingenuous to the point that it doesn't even make sense what his points are.
liverpool boy is not talking sense 😳
Shame on Manchester city shame. 115. As a separate note even if they were within rules are we supposed to be impressed when they win with the player costs they have? They perform on par with their financial wherewithal Congrats to them. And to be clear I like pep and respect him. Huge fan of Foden and am very comfortable saying he’s way better than Saka. Huge fan. But the club itself is tainted either by the charges and/or the huge spend. If you can’t win w those players that would really be poor. Congrats. Bayern Leverkusen team of the year. I’m impressed w them.
As you said amazing team but it’s hollow bc of the foundation.
“They perform on par with their financial withdrawal” I don’t understand this narrative when we see time and time again that money alone doesn’t buy success. Their spend is within the same borders as the other top 6 clubs, and yet their success the past decade is unparalleled. If you want to believe City are “shameful” because it helps you digest just how dominant they’ve been, knock yourself out. United consistently broke transfer records and were financed by American Billionaires (which people seem to think is ethically better then Saudi money?) but I bet you don’t bat an eyelid at them. As for the 115 charges, if you want to think that those charges are SO significant that city’s success is all fraudulent then believe that, but if you really read the charges you’ll realise any rules they allegedly broke were to help them reach the same levels of the top clubs, not to directly surpass them.
You do realize the wage structure that everyone is debating is inclusive of bonuses for competitions right? Just like LFC. Last year we won the treble so it would stand to reason that the wage bill for 22/23 would be the highest. Look at LFC wage bills when they nearly won the quad or CL or PL relative to seasons not winning anything. You’ll see the wage bill is smaller. LFC and MC wage structure is based heavily on how many comps the team is competing in, how far into the competition they go and winning them.
@@MCFCTheMadHatter well said. The summer we bought Haaland we even came out with a positive net spend. Plus we’re constantly bringing in money from selling our academy talents
@@edenholt4394 Spot on. I would also add that since Pep came 2016/17, these are the following GROSS spend (true accounting measure of what a club is investing) Transfermkt:
City: 1.15b pounds
Arsenal: 1.017b pounds
LFC: 750m
MU: 1.156b pounds
Chelsea: 1.653b pounds
Tot: 796m pounds
Since 2019/20
Arsenal: 714m pounds
MC: 640m pounds
Since 2020/21
Arsenal: 578m pounds
MC: 498.5m pounds
If you want to do net spend, the above teams all have higher net spends than City with the exception of LFC and its by about 100m. Remember, in net spend, you also incorporate academy player sales too and City have over 400m pounds in sales of academy players since 2016 as our academy has been a gold mine which certainly helps out the net spend.
How did Carlo Ancelotti do with everton with no money tell me that answer before u tell me pep won't win anything at a small club pls I'm waiting
If there’s no Pep v Klopp according to Steve then how good are your titles and achievements really?
You’re just downplaying your own clubs achievements, from a guy who I respect because he came from a position down the leagues to have more nuance than this.
Arteta was top with 6 games left and chose pre dubai tactics that every arsenal fan saw was not working (zinny lb, havertz mf etc) if Arteta cant make the CLUTCH call with 6 games to go in Arsenal's own hands then how can i trust him to compete with Pep who will 1000% strengthen the 4peat team?!?!
Klopp = Emoball
A Liverpool fan talking about bottling the league??😂😂😂 mate you were 5 points ahead of both Arsenal and Liverpool with 6 games left and now u are happy to be in 3rd..credit to city l, pep is the greatest manager!
#ArtetaOut
One more game left and these smug sods think it's over let's see what happens Sunday don't you dare lose against West Ham because north London forever will be ringing in your ears forever.C.O.Y.G 🔴🔴🔴
I like Big Steve, he talks a lot of sense on the logistics and tactics of football, but he’s incredibly disingenuous when talking about the way his club is ran. ‘Now they can’t talk about net spend with us’ ‘they can’t say we’ve bought the league anymore’- as if City hasn’t spent the 2nd most amount of money in PL history (despite only being around since 2008) with Pep spending 1.5 billion; city fans always like to say, ‘in the last few years we’ve got the lowest net spend AND we won the treble’ acting as if investment and finances isn’t accumulative and they’re just not profiting of the 2.5 billion they’ve spent in the PL.
‘We’ve lost Kompany, Aguero, Silva, Yaya, Gundogan, etc,etc, and we’re still consistent at the top all because of Pep’ Pep is a great manager, one of the best, but let’s not act like all these players weren’t immediately replaced by the best players in the world in this positions. Steve just can’t seem to accept the way in which his club is run and how the finances got there in the first place.
That monologue was pathetic and full of hatred. Get a grip😮
@@michellemaggs75 why are you doing your English homework in the comment section?
Steve stop winding the liverpool fan up no
For me West Ham has nothing to gain from the game they cant get Europe. So most them players gonna be on the beach and what about Paqueta? He wants to go City next season. I'm sure he would rather go to the champions of the premier league. West Ham have the 3rd worst defense in the league, they cannot hold onto wins as we saw against Newcastle. Plus its at the ETIHAD where city rarely drop points then finally il add West Hams record is bad against city only 1 draw and 5 losses against City in past 6 games in the PL and in total 24 wins for city and 2 for West Hame with 5 draws. Just can't see West Ham doing anything this Sunday.
if 115 comes to fruition, little steve gonna grow his hair back from the stress.
We need that expeditiously
Well done 115FC
Zzzzzzzz Orrrrrrr dry your eyes bitter.
Grow up
Thank you
@@SuperCityMCFC you're welcome. y'all deserve it 🙌💙
Thank you , bottlers FC ❤
If these Footballing Gods are real, they will check Steve’s arrogance this weekend
You can be arrogant if you win 7 trophies in 18 months, but I do get it from a rival perspective
Did the Liverpool fan say arsenal bottled the league 😂😂 we going into the final day still contending while Liverpool bottled it weeks ago and they were supposed to finish above arsenal 😂😂😂😂😂😂 these Liverpool fans are so 😂😂😂
Lol Steve doesn’t respect Klopp 😭. This city dominance needs to end! I don’t like how my man’s talking at all
Liverpool 🎻....they raid clubs take all their players, spend huge money but they all pretend they work on a shoestring budget it's actually mind numbing.... Klopp inherited a team of very expensive signings, all massively sort after players at the time, Benteke, Lallana, Clyne, Sakho, Coutinho, Lovren etc ....just because they ended up failing they make out they weren't all big signings at the time....🤦♂️😂
Coutinho was sort after? He was an inter flop who no-one was after for like 8 million, how is that a big signing? Same with Sakho and Clyne, the others you mentioned where medium signings and EVERY SINGLE ONE was pre-Klopp
@@seanc411 You're re writing history. I was there and I remember they were all big money and sort after players
@@SuperCityMCFC”I was there” like I wasn’t 😭 strange logic. How is 8 million a big signing. All the others you mentioned were between 12-20 million. And again signed pre-Klopp.
liverpool bootled the league this season
Love how my man hasn’t changed his dp yet. King Kai🫂
Disagree with James. Said Liverpool won a title they had no right to win and that’s what makes Klopp great. He is great but you’re still giving off underdog story by saying that but yet If we go back to that season, Liverpool fans were telling us Alisson is the best Prem keeper every, same with VVD, Trent, Robertson, Salah best RW ever in the prem, mane best LW ever in the prem, Fabinho best DM ever in the prem. It’s very hypocritical. But that’s Liverpool fans.
James is rattled
We respect pep, we do not respect city
that scouser was rattled simple brendon flopp 1 prem 9 years sunday that is it
It was not a rivalry if you are now supporting said team to win a trophy over another 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
brendon flopp 1 prem 9 years may 890m spent . ranieri 1 prem 3 years 79m spent
City spend 400M on wages and agent fees a year, arsenal only turnover 500M a year lol Arsenal spend 220M a year on wages and agent fees. Every 5 years city spend nearly 1B a more on there squad than arsenal. get your facts right steve you spend the most money by absolutely MILES, but people like to ignore wages and agent fees and only look at transfers.
If you use your brain, then you will know why City have big wages than Arsenal..If Arsenal start winning things then you will get it.. More trophies more money for players..Your wage bill would go up to 300+ if Arsenal win the league this season
@GermanChickenwing I didn't say it was bad a thing. You're correct, you turn over like 780M a year so you can afford to spend more. But people love to leave out wages and agent fees that's why you can have a stacked squad and we can't, we simply can't give that many people massive wages
@@AFCWipo Fairs
Not even close
@@SuperCityMCFCbroski there’s literally BBC and Swiss Ramble articles supporting what he’s saying. City and Chelsea are clear of the rest of the league when it comes to agent fees and wages. Chelsea paid £75m ($93m) to agents to sign players including Moisés Caicedo for a British record £115m ($146m) fee, as well as Cole Palmer, Christopher Nkunku, Romeo Lavia and others. Manchester City paid £60m ($74.7m) in agent fees on players such as Joško Gvardiol, Mateo Kovacic, Jérémy Doku and Matheus Nunes.
Manchester United paid £34m ($42m) in intermediary fees, Liverpool, £31.5m ($39m), and Arsenal, just over £24m ($29.8m).
Spurs fans are still embarrassing. Gonna be a joy to watch you lot bottle it in the Europa Conference League Quarter finals