The Human Tsunami - The Most Insane Attack Ever Seen
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- In the stillness of a Korean night, a distant bugle sounded - a chilling note that every American and United Nations soldier came to dread. It heralded not just any assault but the impending "human-wave" attack. From their positions, UNC troops watched as the horizon itself seemed to shift, with thousands of Chinese soldiers advancing, many armed only with grenades and raw determination. Tales had circulated among the UNC ranks of these adversaries, so fearless they'd charge into the very jaws of death. Witnessing it, however, was an entirely different ordeal.
This audacious tactic didn't emerge in isolation. Early in the war, the Chinese plotted their counter as American and UNC forces confidently pressed into North Korean territory. Utilizing the terrain and the element of surprise, they executed a series of ambushes that sent the UNC reeling. Recognizing the need for a strategic pivot, by early 1951, the UNC fortified its positions, stretching defensively from east to west. The Chinese, ever adaptive, responded with their now-infamous "human wave" - a tactic as much about psychological warfare as it was about numbers.
While historians might debate the terminology, those who faced this onslaught had no doubts. Veterans recounted the overwhelming force of the assault, comparing it to a tidal wave or a stadium's crowd spilling onto the battlefield. One poignant reflection captured the scene's eerie intensity: "Suddenly, the whole hillside stood up."
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My uncle said his unit watched as their 50 cals melted for firing no stop. The carnage was beyond anything he could have imagined.
After I came home from Desert Storm, my uncle and I spent some time talking about seeing the elephant. His time in the Korean War. I was probably the only other person whom he talked with about his time in Korea besides his father, who was in USMC and in combat in WW1. One of his things he wanted me to do was stay in the Army. That was the only time I had ever seen him drink any alcohol. I'll keep most of our conversation with me, some of it was the experiences of the attacks in waves.
My friend told me it is the most incredible sight to see humans explode in some cases and others fall as parts fly off. My dad described a fire base being attacked and he happened to be there when it went down. They had a quad .50 set up and when the field was full of the enemy bringing the attack the guns opened up and nothing survived. It was over after the crew went to work, My dad's Sgt in Vietnam who fought in Korea said the brass and links were 3 feet deep around the guns. They were in a panic at the end as the guns kept firing. They stopped servicing the guns keeping all four running. This meant linking the belts together rather than stop and open the feed cover. The receivers were getting so hot the color changed. He said bullets could be seen going down the barrels as the systems failed. The velocity was falling off and they knew it was over without air power. It was the air power that won the war. It is hard to believe what it would take to make a ramp of body parts and clothes to reach 6 or 7 feet. Most of these insane fights were at night to minimize the pilots strike, My friend gets emotional about the napalm hitting Marines but the Colonel assured him it saved the battalion. I wish Mel Gibson would make a movie about the war and let people know what kind of madness took place there and the selfless sacrifice men gave. My friend will cry as he describes Marines give their life to save his and the guilt is a heavy price of survival. When he was wounded he had jumped in the back of the quad .50 because a Marine had been killed. He was hit by a piece of steel through his knee. A Marine said hey look. When he was finally taken to be with the rest of the wounded the XO came down and told them my friend the FAC is getting on the next helicopter. He told me there were Marines with the most horrific wounds of every sort laying all together waiting. He said they got me up and I was gone the ground war was over for him. He regained flight status and was in the air over Europe with nukes. He has lived a fascinating life. He says the ground war in Korea changed me forever I came back a very different person from the one who left.
The Germans talked about this regularly in the east. Horrific.
My grandfather was a tank commander who survived the Korean War. He didn’t like to talk about it but he had a similar experience. My uncle has told me stories about the waves of humans papa had to mow down
My Dad (Marine 1st Battalion, 1st Division) received a Silver Star for his heroism on April 23d 1951. I have a better understanding of what he went through by watching this video. Thank you for your stories.
Kudos to your dad. Kudos to you for remembering him.
Wow, what a great story, and I thank him for his service!!
your dad is a hero
Yeah this war doesn't get as much spot light as it should. Would be really interesting to see some documentaries.
What happens when you start building an airbase next to china's border.
My uncle was in the 7th infantry division, 17th Regt HQ. They were one of the few that made it to the Yalu River. The very next morning he heard the bugle calls and said it looked like the mountains across the river were covered in ants. It was the human wave. They started crossing the river in mass and he retreated with the rest of the 17th. They got caught with the marines at chosin. He was one of the few to survive. He told my dad stories of lining up rifles in his fox hole to be ready for the human wave attacks that would come at night. He told my dad he would go through rifle after rifle mowing down the enemy. He survived all that only to be murderer in the late 70s before I was born. Dad still talks about his closest brother often. You are remembered uncle rudy.
Interesting....my grandfather was in the Marines at the Chosin Reservoir battle. He passed away from pneumonia back 97'. Poor bastard survived 2 tours in Korea and 2 tours in Nam just to be taken out by some illness. Sorry for your lost bud hope your uncle RIP.
I met a Canadian guy who was there he used the same metaphor. (an ant hill). He said there wer 3000 dead chinesein in his area when it was all over. He was on a machine gun.
My grandpa said the same thing, they were like a swarm of ants. He also said he was glad they would give them advanced warning with all the bugles, whistles and yelling. It's a good thing they didn't go the Jap route and infiltrate at night for the banzai charge to get launched when they were already on top of them
The PLA already crossed the Yalu. To be caused crossing would have been disastrous. The crossing was in the dark and undetected by the UN (US)
That's mested up live through all that death just to come home to be killed. I know what you mean. My friends an I survived Afghanistan an a few of them came home an died.
My father described one of these attacks.
He and his engineering detachment had to place explosives into opposing cliffs in order to produce enough aggregate to be bulldozed to cover the thousands of dead in the valley.
A family member went up on the mountains to put their recoilless rifles up there. Kudos to your father and all that served.
That is so sad.
Good. They breed too much.
I knew a Colonel that said he never could get rid of the smell of the bodies after sitting out in the sun for days as the battle kept going
@@seymourwrasse3321 My condolences for his suffering.
My grandfather was the firing chief of the 12th field artillery B company 2nd Division 155 mm howitzer's most decorated division in the Korean war! Gave daily and nightly support to the 23rd infantry division! Heroes are all the men and women who served this great nation!
Theres no telling how many lives that steel rain saved. He probably lost his hearing but saved countless men.
The actor Michael Cain lived through one of these "human waves" while he was in the British Army and he said it changed him forever.
No, you've misrepresented Michael Caine's story. He, and three others, were on a night patrol and were cut off from their own lines, they thought that the Korean/Chinese forces were between them and their own forces and they had no way back. They, Michael Cane and his comrades, thought that they were in an impossible situation and charged what they thought was the enemy fully expecting to die and basically decided to take as many of the enemy with them as they could. As it turned out they were disorientated, the enemy was not in front of them and the all survived. What changed him was the knowledge that in such a desperate situation he found in himself the courage to fight and die. That is what every man fears, how will he react in such a situation.
That's another one of his experiences over there. The one I reference is how he witnessed wave after wave of communist soldiers attack and be killed with the communist leaders having no regard for strategy and the preservation of their troops - they were "cannon fodder"...@@davidtuer5825
The father of a girl I dated had been a Marine at the Chosin reservoir. He had a copy of an old issue of Life magazine with a photo of him on the cover. His name was "Red" McClintoc and he worked as Capt. of a tow boat locally. He also owned and worked a shrimp boat in his latter years. I never heard him talk about Korea. He was a very quiet and mild mannered man but I sensed it would be advisable to not get on his bad side.
My best ever Girlfriend's , we are still friends , Father was in the Australian Navy WWII NewGuinea & Coral Sea. He was six foot four and sixteen stone ,
I gave him a lot of cheek, but never really messed with him.
Good bloke.
The Glorious Gloucesters were total heroes and were very badly let down by their allies. They will never be forgotten.
That is how the 1st Marine Division chopped up 10 divisions of Chinese, but still had to retreat.
Friends dad is Korea combat war veteran. Told us about this battle. They had Quad .50 caliber flat bed half tracks in firing line formation, and the chinesse did not stop coming.
Reasons why we developed the Claymore mine, Cluster Bomb Munitions, Daisy Cutter bomb, and Napalm, Flechette rockets and various grenades and artillery shells,etc.
Useful tools, and why you don't see this tactic anymore also the causality rates would be much harder to hide.
And as you say legality of weapons it better but much more important the targeting and directing is way easier and more accurate.
In Vietnam battalion level attacks was a thing. In Iraq and Afghanistan company level attack tend to wipe as the response was fast an accurate
The US had Napalm in WW2
@@magnemoe1You still see this in Ukraine
Wagner group used this tactic allthough with smaller units,attacking Bakhmut
My dad was an Infantry veteran of Korea and Vietnam. Dad said waves would come at them especially at night. They would pop flares and dad said the North Koreans looked like ants coming up their hill. Dad had just joined the Army as a machine gunner and recoilless rifle gunner. I asked him if he ever got overrun as a machine gunner ? Dad said, NOPE he just mowed the enemy down with his machine gun or if in real close he would use his rifle as a baseball bat.
I thank your dad for his service to help fight the global scrouge of Communism, a stain on humanity.
Savage
so he killed hundreds ?
@@macnasty7605 he survived
I heard that John Wayne lobbied his agent for 30 years to get to play your Dad in a movie, any movie. Sadly he went to his grave broken and disillusioned. Nobody was able to write a movie that was capable of adequately capturing the scope of your Dad’s contribution in rolling back the red menace over those crucial two decades. Damn those commie bastards! ☠️🤯🤬😡
The slow walk at the Somme was insane.
Absolute madness. The only unit that didn't get decimated and captured all their objectives were the Irish who decided walking was moronic and ran for their lives across no man's land.
Dr. Arthur G. Neal professor of sociology @ Bowling Green State University in Ohio was one of the 42 survivors of Pork Chop Hill. He had the payroll satchel for everyone as it was payday and he was doing Money Order transfers back home when the battle order came. He kept the satchel the whole time. He said it was difficult with communication English speaking American, Spanish (Puerto Rico) and South Korean mixed troops languages. He said they buried themselves in dead bodies and called in artillery on themselves.
The timing of that attack must have really irritated him
@@doodlegassum6959 Timing of any attack would have been the last thing on their minds I'd have thought.
Yeah two of my great-uncles who fought in Korea one in the US Army the other in the US Marine Corps told me about these human wave assaults. And that sometimes they had to break these attacks up using point blank artillery fire.
My dad was in the Army during the Korean War. He got lucky. He was a radio operator in Hawaii.
Canister shot, I hope!
@@stanleybroniszewsky8538 Kudos to your dad, he did his part/duty.
The strength of the Chinese army was about the same as UN/USA forces.
@redwater4778 lol it definitely wasn't in any way thats crazy to say. They had numbers sure, but they didn't have shit compared to America
My great uncle was at Chosin. He told me that he killed so many Chinese that he had to alternate the barrels on his .30 cal machine gun to keep it from melting. 1st wave, no weapons at all, 2nd wave, sticks and farm tool, 3rd wave would be armed with rifles, and the 4th would be well-armed professional troops.
My dad was over there until they signed the armistice. He received two bronze stars. He only talked to his friend that went through D Day. Never mentioned anything that happened in Korea.
My uncle Tony was a cook, and the Captain came back from the front lines and told the cooks that they needed to get their rifles, and the cooks said that they had lunch ready for the men! The Captain said that everyone was dead and the 12 cooks needed to defend 1 mile with 4 50-caliber machine guns! My uncle was on one, and one of the men was loading, and the other was getting boxes of bullets! They both died, so my uncle had to load it himself! He said that he could feel the bullets flying past his ears! He said that waves of Chinese were coming, and while shooting, he saw arms and heads flying off the attackers! I only saw my uncle cry once. He felt bad for the families of the chinese soldiers that he killed! He said that he must have killed hundreds! He threw his medal into the ocean on the way back to Japan! I love you, Uncle Tony! 😢
Good thing your uncle was good at making minced meat.
Dufus.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis actually he thought that he had killed well over 300! He was fighting for his life and his country, so! ☠️ 🫡 ☠️
@user-qt4ee4nb1h I understand that there are people who are anti-war, but my uncle was too! That's why he was a cook, but he had no choice! 💩 for 🧠's! Hahaha 😁 😆 😂
Well, the North did invade first, and china had no real reason to get into the UN operation. they just made the future worse with their bullshit ideology from the 60s, all for Mao's paranoia
I interviewed Ted Hearn, an Australian veteran of the Battle of Kapyong in Korea, where Australian and Canadian troops held off a Chinese advance on Seoul.
The interviews were actually of veterans of the WWII 2/14 battalion. Ted had served in the Middle east, then in New Guinea including the vicious fighting against the Japanese in appalling conditions on the Kokoda track. He had collapsed with scrub typhus and woken up in hospital in Australia. His records were marked not to serve outside Australia, but he was able to volunteer for Korea.
He said that Kapyong was worse than anything he experienced in WWII. He said 'They came on in waves like ants, blowing bugles and making funny noises'.
Ted also said that Korea had two temperatures. Boiling hot and freezing cold. He said 'We should have apologised and given it back to the Koreans.
I live in British Columbia Canada and I know a Kapyong survivor of the Canadian UN contingent. He was in the Princess Patricias Canadian Light Infantry D Company platoon. He and 26 members of his platoon held off a Chinese wave attack for three days. Our troops were armed only with bolt action WW2 303 cal. Lee Enfield rifle and a couple of 30 cal. Machine guns. They were being overrun the second night and so the platoon Lt called in an artillery strike 25 yards in front of his own position.The New Zealand gunners were superb in laying down fire and miraculously no Canadian was injured. In the morning the Chinese corpses were piled high. Although D platoon took the brunt of the attack the rest of the Canadians prevented the Chinese from encircling the whole company. Their actions stopped the Chinese from using a direct road into the heart of South Korea. President Harry S Truman awarded the Princess Patricias a Presidential Citation one of the few given to foreign military units. My friend turned 91 this past spring and had the local newspaper do an in-depth interview with him in March the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Kapyong. The South Koreans still honour the Princess Patricias.
@@DavidMScott-cs8pp Give my regards to your friend.
Yes I know of the Canadians fight on a hill on the other side of the valley.
The Australian unit was the third battalion Royal Australian Regiment which was also awarded a Presidential Unit Citation. They also used the bolt action Lee Enfield and Bren guns.
Regarding Kiwi artillery, in the Vietnam war, at the battle of Long Tan, an Australian Company was holding off wave attacks By the VC and NVA and called on NZ gunners at their base kms away to bring down fire almost on top of the Australians. It saved them but 17 Australians were killed before armored personnel carriers arrived which drove the enemy off.
The Australian veteran I interviewed was Ted Hearn. His nick name in the WWII 2/14 battalion was Junior, because he was under age when he joined up. Some of his story from the obituary I wrote for the Melbourne newspaper The Age when he died in 2011 at the age of 89 follows:.
Hearn was born in Cavendish, in the Western district [of the state of Victoria] but never knew his parents. He grew up in a boys home and in foster homes...Hearn was working in a tannery when World War II began and his foster parents, who were on a trip to England sent him a telegram telling him not to join the army until they returned.
As soon as they returned he presented himself to the recruiters at the old booking officers at Flinders Street Railway Station. "I went up to the bloke there and he says 'How old are ya?' I said 'Eighteen' and he says 'Aahw, you're too young'.
"So I went to the next window and the bloke says .How old are ya?' I said 'Twenty one' And the next thing you know I'm marching up to Town Hall. There's a lady who grabs me and says, 'Son you're too young. Don't go.' I said 'I'm goin' lady whether you like it or not. Hoo-roo.'..
He first saw action in the hard fought but largely unrecognised Syrian campaign. The enemy were the Vichy French - Foreign legion and tough colonial troops who the allies were trying to win over to De Gaulle's free French...
After the French surrender there were the usual soldiers' high jinks, including "knocking off" supplies to sell to the locals for beer money. Hearn and an engine driver mate went so far as to "borrow" a steam train to the border. Nobody missed it- or them...
[At the battles against the Japanese on the Kokoda track in New Guinea Hearn was wounded in the hip by a mortar round and walked 90 km back down the track to have the wound treated. In the later Ramu Valley campaign he collapsed with scrub typhus and woke up in a hospital in Australia. His papers marked not to serve outside Australia he finished the war in a supply depot. Never the less he managed to sign up for Korea.]
"The funny thing is that when we first went ahead we went right up to the capital of North Korea. We got up there and thought this is good. The war's over in five minutes. Then the Chinese come in and they soon got rid of us. Pushed us right back to where we started from"...
His two separate stints in the army came to an end because of a football match. Bored with white washing rocks at Victoria barracks he absented himself to watch a football game and was hauled before a senior officer. a fellow Kokoda veteran who recognised Hearn's campaign ribbons heard the soldiers contrition and a plea not to be treated like a raw recruit; If that happened, Hearn said, He would rather leave. Two days later, he received an honourable discharge."
At the last reunion lunch where i saw Ted he was in a wheel chair. "They cut me leg off" he said, still cheerful and chatty. I told him that another WW II veteran i had interviewed, Jim Coy who had given Ted heaps of grief for signing up for Korea had confessed to me that he had tried to sign up for that war but had been turned down. Ted had a bit of a discussion with Jim after that.
Lest We Forget.
PS. I visited Vancouver for a conference in 1997. I am a a scientist by trade, now retired and thinking of going to BC for a holiday. I had visited Montreal and Ottowa when I was doing a post Doc at Syracuse NY in 1986- 87.
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Great story. Yes I knew of the Aussie citation and the fact that they took a lot of casualties in defending their area. Story goes that as the Canucks and Aussies we’re moving up to the hills the South Korean army was fleeing down right past them which caused my friend to wonder what in hell was going on. Kudos to the Aussie infantry and Kiwi artillery. First class all the way 👍👍👍
I always get annoyed that Australia has always been there for other countries but we just get called Allies never Australians The yanks have a real problem with saying Australia
In our defense for years you guys were known as common wealth, colonial, etc. in history book and documentaries over here, and well we don't have a tendency to change very quick lol.@@James-kv6kb
Splendid video enhanced by brilliant narration that fit the immensity of the battles and the stakes of the conflict. 13:08
One Korean War Vets bio described the waves "like men trying to put out a fire by jumping into it".
My Dad was there at the Chosin Reservoir, he only talked about it a few times when he was drunk; bugels, drums, whistles, wave after wave of Chinese, firing non stop, piling bodies for defensive positions.
Yes, my Father was there also. He spoke about it once in awhile. He talked about his Column being attacked from the hills. He remembered the wounded on trucks being hit over and over again . The blasting bugles, he said every muzzle pouring out lead was red hot. My Fathers name was Frank S Lopez.
@@stevelopez372 wow, my dad's name was Francisco lopez Jr. From El Paso tx. Army infantry
@@stevelopez372😅
Funny how Chosin Rservoir was considered a human wave attack meanwhile Omaha beach landing was not, despite Omaha beach landing having much more casualties lol
Bill Speakman (Black Watch) from Manchester (UK) was awarded the Victoria cross for staying & covering his mates, when he ran out of ammo he threw everything he had, cans, rocks, rifle, at the enemy to hold them off. He lived & spent his twilight years as a Chelsea Pensioner. Massive Respect.
So true. Mao sent out half million KMT soldiers who surrendered to communists troops in 1946-1949 civil war to death, ran the first wave of suicide strategy. They had fought Japanese invaders along with American allies. And years later, they met in Korea, as enemies. They were carrying their Japanese invaders' guns which were gift from Stalin given to Chinese, and they were either frozen to death or bombed by free world armies. Even for those who were fortunate enough to survive and managed back to their country China, were discriminated or hurt to death in later Mao's revolution. And as for General Peng, the commander of Chinese communist army, were sentenced to death by Mao in 1966.
My father was an artillery officer with Task Force Faith on the East side of the Chosin...later he became the first liaison officer to the Ethiopian Battalion in Korea. It is worth noting that at the end of the conflict...things had not returned to the pre-war situation. The MLR was no longer the 38th Parallel... Rather, in places it was noticeably North of that line. The 38th was a line on a map and was absolutely tactically hopeless... The final positions were ones that eventually the South Koreans could plausibly have defended on their own...at least against the NKPA... YP
Abbasynia still me thinks?
I spent 1965 north of the 38th at Camp St. Barbara. There were places (off limits) littered with quilted uniforms, gear and bones. Bombed-out buildings and trenches and bunkers were plentiful. Google earth shows it as beautiful today. I'm glad. Great people!
@@craigoliver8712
No, Abyssinia was a name applied by Portuguese explorers who contacted the Christians of Ethiopia in the 16th century. They applied the local name for the inhabitants, Habaśā, and then transliterated it into their own language as Abassia (with Abassinos being used to identify the people living there). This became Abyssinia in English and many other European languages.
However, the name Ethiopia pre-dates "Abyssinia" by over a millennium. Ethiopia derives from the ancient Greek term for all of sub-Saharan Africa. In the 4th century, the Kingdom of Axum's control extended from the shores of the Red Sea to the upper Nile valley, including much of what is Sudan, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djibouti, and Yemen. Axum's rulers used the name Ethiopia (Αἰθιοπία in Greek) to refer to their country. As such, they were essentially claiming to be the 'Kings of Africa' (or at least Africa south of Egypt and Libya).
Axum eventually collapsed into a number of rival tribes and petty kingdoms, but those living in the region still used name of Ethiopia ('Ītyoṗyā, as it became in the local Ge'ez language), and any groups who aspired to reunite the scattered tribes and restore the Axumite empire used the name Ethiopia to describe their ambitions. Thus, to the locals living in the region, the area was always thought of as "Ethiopia" (never as Abyssinia - that was strictly a European label).
Abyssinia only became the formal name of the area after Mussolini conquered Ethiopia in 1937 and established an Italian colony there. Prior to that even the League of Nations and Haile Selassie referred to the country as Ethiopia. It retained colonial name only until 1948, when Ethiopia applied to have the UN have its name revert back to the older historical name for the country.
So "Abyssinia" was only the name of the country for a brief 11 years, and that name had been out of use a good three years before any Ethiopian troops arrived in Korea.
Thus endeth my extremely pedantic (and dreadfully boring) history lesson. 😜
My dad wasn’t around much, but I remember him telling me about a war story that was told to him by my grandfather. From what I remember my grandfather served with the 27th Infantry Regiment. The only story he told my dad was when unit was overlooking a valley when the Chinese started charging from cover over a hill, my grandfather told my dad that “it looked like the ground was moving”.
Soviet tactics: It's not important that we have 5 time bigger casualties, it's important to have 6 time bugger forces.
and thats why their population is a fraction of what it should be lol.
"Quantity has a quality all it's own"
If you don't have the same money to' buy weapons like your enemy, you have to use another way of combat.or not?
@@giannidemichelis3086yeah....just prove that people's lives don't mean crap to you. I don't understand why anybody would fight for scumbags like that.
Yeah those buggers really like their expendable masses
My uncle fixed bayonets in Korea......a part of him never came back.
I don't know, mending bayonets doesn't seem like such an emotionally difficult task.
@crusader7356 World View.
Its been several years, maybe ten? Since we first started watching the Dark family, the quality that got us to sub is still here in full measure. It's a pleasure to still be subbed. Thank you. All the best to you and yours!
Did i hear french bayonet charge? Wasn't aware they were a part of this conflict. Super cool.
Hollywood does you no favours.
My dad did his first tour in Vietnam in 1966. At that time there were veterans of WW2 and Korea in the ranks. 2/327 there was a Sgt who described a battle during the daytime which was rare. He was in the 2nd ID assigned to a quad .50. There were two on their line spaced apart criss crossing the field of fire and they traversed the barrels to be level at 200 yards. Before the napalm was dropped saving everyone due to guns overheating the PLA had formed a ramp 6-7' high from the guns chopping them up. Witnessing this left a mark because he kept saying as he was telling the story I'll never forget that. I also heard Colonel Weber describe a column of PLA marching down the road 6 abreast and his unit had a quad .50 so he ordered them to open up on the column. He said that after a few minutes some of the men stopped shooting because of what they were witnessing, the Chinese kept marching into the fire!! One bullet will blow a human into chunks and it will pass through several men before losing energy. It is shocking to hear a story like that and begs the question why?
Asian people have no respect for human life. They prove it in every war that they fight. WW 2, Korea, Nam.
Because they wanted to defeat the enemy. That's why. In their eyes they were fighting for the future of their country, people, and the world. That kind of inspiration and tenacity often makes people do incredible or horrific things. We obviously had our own reasons for fighting and we obviously thought we too were the "good guys". But to the Koreans and Vietnamese we were invaders, or colonizers standing in the way of their progress
(And no, I'm not condoning or supporting the PLA, VC, Nkoreans etc, I'm simply being devils advocate here and explaining their point of view, which is important and should not be devalued or ignored)
@@BigWheel. He means, it begs the question: why do we continue to wage war, to seek our ends through this horrific means. We never learn--even Vietnam wasn't lesson enough, and on we went to Iraq and Afghanistan. Humans are violent, fearful and greedy. Why?
They were worried about their social credit score.
Thanks for sharing. My I ask what’s PLA? I’m sure I will know soon as you say it but I’m having a brain fart lol. I’m sure most of them didn’t mind dying in war cause it was an honor or something like that in their culture
More content on the Korean War please. It is known as the forgotten war after all.
Honestly if they didn't make the M*A*S*H series most people wouldn't know at all.
@@Rig0r_M0rtis If we talk too much about it eventually we have to talk about burning down villages with napalm, MacArthurs drive to send America into war with the Soviets and China, Rhee's extensive history of war crimes, our refusal to hold democratic elections or referendums for unification. Korea was the first and most obvious attempt for America to create quasi countries and as a result, why North Korea is the center of fake news. It's best to forget for us Americans.
A U.S. Korean War vet told me that the massive swarms of Chinese had to climb over their comrades bodies to keep charging.
He said the piles of enemy bodies got so high that we had to keep pulling our machine guns higher up the mountain just so that we could shoot down over the bodies into the following attackers instead of up into air at the first enemies that crested the body piles.
I can't imagine that insanity.
Cut the bullshit please. Former soldiers will tell you anything (as long as you are paying for their beer).
@@bernarddavis1050 - I know he told me that.
I wasn't there.
Knew him for years and I never caught him in a lie that I could verify
He always supplied the beer, come to think of it.
Who knows?
My ex lied to me for years and my dumb ass fell for it.
She could fool Jesus with those eyes.
@@clintstinkeye5607that’s because you wanted to believe in those lies
The Americans did the same human wave tactic in Omaha beach and yet that shit was glorified lol
Despite being technologically outmatched, the 'human-wave' attacks by Chinese forces caused psychological tremors across UNC lines, a haunting lesson in the dual nature of warfare. Ultimately, the Cold War's first major showdown was a war of wills, ideologies, and strategies, which shaped foreign policy strategies for years to come. It wasn't just a war of weapons, it also marked the advent of 'limited war,' refining enduring geopolitical tactics.
Best count yourself lucky the Soviets were involved in the ground too
AND ALSO THE THEORY OF LIMITED NUCLEAR CONFLICT. U.S. PLACEMENT OF BATTLEFIELD NUCLEAR ARTILLERY IN EUROPE TO COMPENSATE FOR THE MISMATCH IN TROOP STRENGTH BETWEEN THE WARSAW PACT AND NATO.
@@joangratzer2101 big letters, smol peepee
Authoritarian Commies universally see human lives as dispensable like toilet paper.
@@JDDC-tq7qm No, the Soviets were not. I'm sure NK still remembers that the Soviets sold them out. The Soviets' promise of air cover never materialized. NK would not have embarked on this adventure without this promise of support from the Soviets.
If the Soviets had kept their promise of air cover, what might be the geopolitical picture today?
Love all the channels! Keep these videos coming!
As Dad said when he was with the 1st Cavalry near the end of the war. He said fighting the Chinese and North Koreans was like " A lion trying to fight off ants attacking him.". An infantry battalion or regiment would be wise to carry twice or triple the ammunition load per man into combat. If a man gets killed or wounded, take his ammo and use it. A unit will have ammo placed 100 to 200 yards behind them from rifle, mortar, and .30 and .50 Cal ammo to resupply during combat for an infantry unit. Either to run ammo forward or to grab it to retreat into a better defensive position. To have ammo on you meant you can survive combat along with grenades. Grenades was an infantryman's portable mortar or artillery. By the early 1950s was WWI on steroids like in Ukraine now. Dad never forgot Korea because he lost more friends there than at the near end of WWII in Europe.
@reddevilparatrooper - Re: "As Dad said when he was with the 1st Cavalry near the end of the war. He said fighting the Chinese and North Koreans was like " A lion trying to fight off ants attacking him."
I'm glad your father made it home. An uncle on my wife's side of the family - who died only a few years back - was a combat veteran of the Korean War, an infantryman in the 1st Cav (just like your dad). This particular uncle, whom I'll call "Uncle Charlie" (his first name was Charles) was in the thick of the fighting in 1950 and 1951 before being badly-wounded and medivac'ed to the rear and ultimately Japan for treatment and rehab.
Charlie never did get his decorations, his Purple Heart and "I was there" ribbons and so forth - because the paperwork for his citations and a bunch of other men, too, ended up being burned in a Tokyo, Japan warehouse fire. Uncle Charlie got well-enough in his recovery from his wounds to return to limited duty in Japan, but for him, his war - at least in combat - was over. When he got back stateside, his paperwork cleared and he could have gotten his decorations then, but given a choice between going home to see his wife and family or cooling his heels in barracks for a couple of weeks, he took off.
It was only years later that Charlie wished he'd had the chance to thank the men who had risked their lives to get to the aid station. He was only one of a few men in his unit to survive the last human-wave attacks, and being hit so seriously, he was unconscious and didn't have the opportunity to thank his fellow soldiers the way he would have liked. With that in mind, we worked on the VA and the army and DOD and finally got Charlie his medals, which were awarded to him on the courthouse steps in his hometown on Veteran's Day about 12-13 years ago. Charlie used the occasion to pay tribute to his fellow soldiers and the nameless men who saved his life.
I had the opportunity to talk with him about his experiences, which finally came out a bit after so many years, and Charlie said that the human wave attacks were terrifying even for experienced men, and that without his M-1 rifle, he would not have made it home. He had a real affection for that rifle, and also spoke highly of the Browning Automatic Rifle as a weapon that saved a lot of men's lives in action.
The use of human wave tactics to overwhelm an enemy is not just unsettling to the typical westerner, but alien, too. Western societies teach, at least give lip-service , to the value of individual human life. But the mentality was very different in those days in that part of the world, and of course the Communist leadership in Peking (Beijing) was not answerable to the civilian population for the carnage the war cost.
I've heard stories as a military historian for many years that the North Koreans and Chi-Coms both used to clear minefields by marching men through them, in the absence of less-brutal methods. The Soviets did the same thing during the early days of WW2 in the East, before they had any sort of sophisticated mine-detection or removal equipment. Those troops had no choice: If they disobeyed an order to move the political officers and their men in "blocking units," so-called, would shoot them instead.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961 Outstanding!! I went back to Ft. Benning in 2018 for my Airborne School reunion. I visited the ranges and the places I was there as a young recruit. Everything has changed. I went to the Infantry Museum and saw that they had the WWII barracks that I went through Basic in 1986 and the displays in it. It brought me to tears personally especially the Panama Invasion and the Iraq Memorial which I did recognize a few names from both conflicts which I was apart of. Honestly my Dad had it hard during his time in combat but I did experience the getting shot at, rocket attack, mortar attacks, and basic infantry combat during Panama and in the towns, cities, of Iraq. I experienced how I got lucky as not to get hit and to shoot back when gettig shot at. Dad was right about combat, if you live through it you will never forget it.
@@reddevilparatrooper - Glad you made it through "seeing the elephant," isn't that what you grunts call experiencing combat for the first time? If I had it to do over, I'd definitely look at going airborne. My ambition as a young cat was to be a fighter pilot, and when I didn't have the perfect 20-20 vision needed, I sort of lost interest in that whole ball of wax and got on with life. After 9-11-01, I tried very hard to get in but was a bit past the age cutoff and so no dice. Looking at how things ended in Afghanistan, maybe that was a blessing in disguise.
If you were in Panama and some of the other interventions of the 1980s and 1990s, we sound of an age. Those may have been "small wars," as they say, but there's nothing "small" about 'em to the guys fighting in them. A stray 7.62x39 round can end your life just as quickly in a place like that as in some big dust-up like Vietnam.
I ended up not being in the military, but I did maybe the next best thing in terms of understanding what high-velocity lead projectiles can do to the human body - I trained up as a medic and worked doing trauma care for a while. When you see GSWs (gun-shot wounds), MVAs (motor-vehicle accidents), burns, crushing injuries, etc. - it really opens your eyes. Folks with amputated limbs. Big level-foour trauma center. The kind of place the military sends their medical people to prepare them for going overseas into a war zone.
I've done some parachuting, too, back in the day, but I wasn't doing it into a hot LZ or with bad guys shooting at me! I've heard that airborne is pretty watered-down now - at least getting the tab - but back in the day, going airborne was special. Those guys had tremendous esprit de corps and motivation and didn't back down from anyone. Back during WW2, the brass figured out that they had to separate the 82nd and 101st A/B troopers when they went on leave and into town, because if there weren't any Germans around to fight, they'd go to work on each other after they'd had a few too many beers in 'Blood Alley' or whatever they called it. That's some real fighting spirit right there!
Thanks for writing...
McArthur's only mistake!?!?!???? That's rich! His buffoonery is legendary.
truman fired his arrogant ass
this channel is straight up propaganda,
he literally calls south korea democratic when it was literally controlled by dictator rhee at the time
my dad was on Heartbreak, said it looked like an avalanche with their white cammo. Dad was a gunner on a watercooled .30. He never finished the story, always left it unsaid, i was usmc, he needn't finish. I was on a m60
Theres so many Clint Eastwood quotes that would be great here
Why ?? He doesn't know anything about the Korean War ... except how to dodge that war . Don't confuse pretenders with the real thing . Live , learn and apply the knowledge .
@@genaro5766 yawn. I'm talking about film quotes
My mom's brother was USMC in Korea. He talked freely about it without any emotion. He said they were mowing the reds down like tall grass with a scythe.
I know a man who fought there (Dutch) that said that the us army threw gazoline in the trenches and let it. North Koreans ran out, burning, and were mowed down. The man told me this without any emotion.
He also told me that the americans smoked and used after shave so that the north koreans found their positions.
So he killed several human beings. What a guy.
@@PureBlood1111 no he didn't.
"Quantity has a quality all it's own"
"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."
I loved seeing the Korean war dispute.the documentary film & presentation was classic dignified exceptional.thank u
The glorious Gloucester Regiment brave men 🙏 I salute you all salute 🫡
During USMC combat training they brought in this old Korean war Marine. Medal of Honor Recipient.
He was a machine gunner. He said they'd fearlessly charge and he and his A-gunner just mowed down everyone l, to the point they had to shift position.
I've been to war and I struggle to imagine such bloodshed.
Same thing happened with the german gunners during d day. They laid waste to so many americans they just walked away from the guns.
The Korean war with its mass human wave attacks enabled the devastating technology and the realization that the more of them there are in one place the more that can be neutralized. Hackworth's book was a perfect description.
Yep. but somehow Japan human wave banzai charge didnt help them win against the American nor the Chinese didnt manage to beat the British in Opium war. Only fools will believe human wave is the reason why Chinese can hold the US in Korea war.
A friend of mine who recently passed away May 16 of this year, Oliver Lee Davidson, was a quad 50cal gunner during the war, he once stated he "mowed them down like grass" during the attacks.
MASH took some liberties, but more or less portray a lot of this.
10/10 show for anyone who hasnt seen it. Well worth at least one watch. (The first 3 seasons are so much different than the rest of it. A little more slapstick than the rest of the shows drama/comedy, so do hold that against it)
MASH 4077 is still one of the best US Shows ever.
@@trevorhart545 simply one of the best shows ever, many lessons in there.
@@trevorhart545 It's been extremely popular in Czechia
Soviet doctrine, quantity has it's own quality.
AWESOME video D5, more on the Korean war please 👍👍
The Air battle for Korea needs a video of itself. Maybe Dark Skies?
Why have you not included the Battle of Yultong (battle of Yuldong) wherein the Filipino soldiers being surrounded and outnumbered 40 is to 1 successfully defended and even pushed back the advances of the Chinese offensive? They only retreated because they were ordered to.
Yes, that definitely needs to be included! And also that statement from MacArthur "Give me 10,000 Filipinos ....."
LOL.. Obviously , you believe this stupid BS narrative of Filipino bravado?
A friend from work told about a human wave. He didn't say where or when, just that it happened.
It came suddenly, they must have crept close under cover. they just appeared, running at full tilt. They fired as fast as they could. When it became obvious they were going to run out of ammunition the head sergeant told all his men when I say regroup, run as fast as you can for our last fortified position where there is ammo and make a stand. You are no good to me dead and there will still be thousands of the bastards out there after we run out of ammo.
That is what they did. They ran like rabbits. The Chinese could not keep up with all the gear they were packing. My friend said it was a good mile they had to run. They kept their rifles but dumped all other gear. When they got to the fortified position they told the guys there to get ready a wave was coming. They didn't believe him. My friend and a couple others scouted out every machine gun they could find and set them up. Before long, the wave came. In just minutes, they had piles of bodies out in front of them. I don't know if the Chinese used drugs but the idiots were climbing over dead comrades right in the face of machine gun fire. This time my friend said they didn't run out of ammo, the Chinese eventually realized they didn't have enough bodies to sacrifice and retreated. My friend and a few others didn't want to let them retreat, he and a bunch of others grabbed Jeeps and machine guns and chased the Chinese for along ways. His thinking was, kill them today or they will be back tomorrow with more comrades.
I didn't ask what happened to all the bodies.
My cousin, John Aid (R.I.P.), a 3 war veteran (US Army) was serving in Korea when the Chinese poured across the border into the war.
While I was recovering from an injury at Ft. Bennings Martin Army Hospital during January of '91, my cousin told me in a phone conversation that there were so many Chinese surging forward that the mountains literally looked like they were moving!
Are you confused or just full of it?
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This history video is very detailed and educational.
The Forgotten War ... 3xs deadlier than Nam. NKO war deaths were about that of Nam only it was a third of the Time. Dad came home in the dark to no one , unlike WW2.
The People's Liberation Army platoon is divided into three squad units, and a squad is divided into three teams, with three combat groups in each to support each other.
The three-person combat team formed an arrow-head attack formation, with each soldier having a clear division of labor: attack-cover-support. An infantry squad is divided into three groups, the squad leader, deputy squad leader, and a team leader, each leading a small group of people to act.
During the operation, three soldiers formed a combat group, with two soldiers in front and the team leader behind, in a triangular formation. Three combat groups formed a combat squad, and three combat squads formed a combat group. During the attack, they formed a "skirmish line" "The formation unfolded.
When the combat squad is deployed, soldiers can change combat formations at any time according to the instructions of the team leader or squad leader. After the combat group is deployed, they use: "spoken language", "sign language", "bugle", or "radio" to convey tactical instructions. The front of a combat group The maximum width can be expanded to about 800 meters.
And?
@@user-qt4ee4nb1h - The human wave is not a chaotic charge towards the defense position.
@@user-qt4ee4nb1h NIce bot.. Only Idiots will believe Chinese win by just human wave tactics.
Your narrative is spot on becos this stupid video and plenty of fools think Chinese win by numbers and blind charging. I pity the new generation with no brains to think of simple things and logic.
@@user-qt4ee4nb1h And, during the honeymoon between China and the United States in the 80th when they stood together to against Soviet Union, PLA taught this tactic to the US army. Later, the US military adopted this tactic in Iraq and Afghanistan.The US army helped PLA to upgrade their Soviet-made equipment to western standard .They all learned from the enemy.
They, the Chinese used the same tactics during the 1962 Sino-Indo war.
No wonder Grandpa didn't like crowds of people. Those boys deserve more recognition
McArthur moved north without adequately protecting his flanks. British officers pointed that out before hand. McArthur's arrogance caused this.
If McArthur wouldn't have been fired South Korea may be communist today. The best approach towards the Yalu river was to use the phase line retreat strategy that Ridgeway implemented later on in the war, along with an emphasis on increasing ammo and firepower such as the Van Fleet load to counter the human wave tactics. McArthur was overrated and terrible at strategy and logistics. His tactical brilliance at Inchon was overshadowed by a mismanaged home by Christmas offensive unequipped and unprepared for Chinese entry into the war.
He got a lot of soldiers killed in WW2 and Korea.
@@duanepigden1337 I agree for example the defense of Philippines.
Right, the reading I came across stated that McArthur left most of his supplies in Manila. He was told by the Pentigon that they would send reinforcements from the states. An ocean away?? And he believed that? No wonder that was a disaster.@@wsurjec6414
@@wsurjec6414 -- very true. Worse part is he ran away leaving his men.
"UNC" means "United Nations Command" in case you were wondering.
The ole "drown them in our and their own blood" approach.
8:39 It was probably the embedded French there who saw the human waves and were like "Ah yes, the old Bonaparte Bumrush. Needed a warm up jog. Fix bayonets, boys, let's show these amateurs how to massacrer des porcs." **Bayonets are clattering unto rifles to a chorus of 'hon hon hon' as confused Americans look onward.**
Hearing stories of German positions overwhelmed as guns had literally melted from overuse, as soldiers scrambled over a mountain of their downed comrades is terrifying
An old friend was at Inchon he said that if weren’t for the Quad 50s. They probably would’ve been destroyed
I believe they did this because it’s also a type of psychological warfare. I must say these people were Brave/Nuts
Hearing Sha!Sha!Sha!Sha!
More like dead dumbasses, either they died from bullets or starvation it was their fate
My Dad USMC POW _both_ Chosin and Wake Island. 1965-6 XO 2/3 Operation Double Eagle, later at Dai Loc. RIP 2011.
"Orders were given and buttons were pressed"
Thats cold
My friend seen this every day they sent to attacks of about 500 men until the British run out of ammo insanity
The Chinese perspective on this sort of attack is interesting, the losses were not seen as acceptable other than for propaganda purposes. I knew a veteran from the British forces in Korea and he was glad he was manning a water-cooled Vickers machinegun and not an air cooled one. He said it was only the ability to link belt after belt for the gun that prevented the position coming under serious threat, the never ending stream of bullets proving just as deadly as in WWI.
The Human Tsunami.
I like the way that sounds, and how it just rolls off the tongue with more grace and style than most other combinations of random nouns.
I'm going to start introducing myself as The Human Tsunami from now on.
There is a wicked story about three Australians that held this attack back from a mountain pass area while the allies retreated.
It's amazing we never get a lot of airtime when it comes to war history despite kicking ass many many times.
@@James-kv6kb as a South African, I feel you. Most nations have to tell their own tales of valour, which sucks when you don't have a film industry the size of Hollywood.
at 5:50, on the right hand side of the screen.. a horse and rider tumble to the ground.. the horse gets up and keeps running while the rider just watches it go!!
It's ground into a horse's DNA - whatever happens, you stick with the herd, because a horse out on his own is a clear target for predators. You get the same thing in horse races, if a rider falls off - the horse keeps going.
Well, the rider knew that wild horses CAN drag you away, no matter what Mick Jagger says.
As Stalin famously said when talking about the endless amount of T-34 tanks ready for battle. "Quantity has it's own Quality".
It’s INSANE!!! Absolutely & utterly INSANE!!! It’s MORE INSANE than all other INSANE videos! INSANE INSANITY it is!!!
I may be wrong, but The "Human wave" was basically the strategy of every army since the dawn of time. Only with auto machine gun fire did it cease to exist as a "strategy"...
You are wrong. Tactics more sophisticated than "lets bury them in our dead" have been in use throughout military history. Even in the blackpowder musket era, when the most effective way to deliver fire-power was the massed volley at short range, there have been smart ways to do it and stupid ways.
I thought the chinese human wave army was extremely doped up.
The Red Chinese point of view regarding what are "acceptable" losses in combat has always been very different than our own, than that of the typical American or typical westerner. Westerners tended to reckon the value of the individual human life very differently than the typical East Asian - especially in those times. It is politically-incorrect to say such a thing in this day and age, but it has a real basis in fact. And the People's Liberation Army, which in those days was a very large but relatively backward technologically-speaking, used its surplus of men to compensate for its lack of advanced weaponry and equipment.
To give an idea of that mindset, during the 1960s, a Chinese PLA general was engaged in a meeting with his American opposite number and apparently the discussion got heated and turned to the possibility of a nuclear exchange. The American told the PLA general that they would lose as many as two-hundred million dead in such an exchange, but the Chinese general shrugged his shoulders and said that such losses were considered acceptable by the party leadership, since China had never lacked for enormous numbers of people.
@@GeorgiaBoy1961
True.
@@realhorrorshow8547yeah like standing in rigid straight lines
I’d be curious to find out what the ratio of machine guns the American Forces/ UN Forces had during these battles. I’m thinking in terms of the First World War when such mass frontal attacks were the only battle plan and yet held lines, for the most part. Were the lessons of defence in depth lost during this time?
2 30 cals per PLT.
Remember defense in depth takes time to do well. Additionally as mentioned briefly in the video the Chinese were smart and waited for coalition forces to advance before counter attacking and basically sticking to the retreating forces so they couldn't stall their momentum. This makes it hard when you get back to defensive lines to be 'ready'. Also the region was not easily traversed and the Chinese managed to get breakthroughs along most of the few trails and roads the forces would have to retreat from and harassed them the whole way back.
the chinese were very out guns, and often outnumbered as well, this video is straight up propaganda 11:45 he calls south korea democratic even though it was ruled by dictator rhee at the time
Chinese: "Human wave attack!" French (fixing bayonets): "Mon ami, you have made le fuck-up."
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
The "Glorious Gloucesters" defending "Gloucester Hill" in Korea!
You'd think the U.S. would've been more prepared for human wave attacks by the time the Korean War started. Sounds very much like Japan's Banzai charges in the last 2 years of WWII.
Or studied Russian ww2 tactics
We rapidly demobilized. It's as if we forgot that the world was still a dangerous place.
@fighter5583 - The truth is that the U.S. was pathetically ill-prepared and equipped to fight the Korean War when it began with the North Korean invasion into South Korean on June 25 1950. After the great draw-down of the once-huge U.S. armed forces after WW2, by 1950, the U.S. military was not at all prepared to wage war in the Far East. To the extent anyone in the Pentagon thought war was coming, it was thought that it would be on the north-central plains of Germany at the Fulda Gap or someplace like that. Soviet Blitz into the heart of Europe.
When the Korean peninsula was divided between North and South Korea after WW2, the communists installed Kim il-Sung as the leader of North Korea and - with Soviet aid - he began building a very large, well-equipped and trained army, which included heavy weapons such as armor and artillery.
The South Koreans got an anti-communist named Synman Rhee as their president, but due to fears by the Truman administration and the State Dept. that he was so bellicose against communism that he might invade the north if given the means to do so, South Korea's military was kept small and lightly-equipped and lacked tanks artillery and many other forms of modern weaponry and equipment. The U.S. Army had troops there, a small advisory and trip-wire force without any heavy weapons whatsoever other than a few leftovers from WW2.
After the war started, the U.S. did snap out of its funk and began to spin up production of war material, but it took time and in the interim, the army was so desperate for tanks that it was raiding veteran's memorials for retired tanks to be refurbished and put back into service. Truman's Secretary of Defense, Louis Johnson, had boasted of cutting the military budget right down to the muscle and bone so that no "fat" remained, and then he kept on cutting. Units that were full-strength on paper were 1/4th or even 1/5th of their supposed authorized strength and most lacked enough modern equipment.
Ultimately, of course, the U.S. did not go to war alone in Korea, as the United Nations became involved and it became a true multi-national effort.
because the chinese did not use human wave attacks they used night fighting and infiltration tactics, they pretended to be south koreans and stabed soldiers in the back without them knkowing.
this entire video is propaganda.
11:45 he literally called rhee the dictator of south korea "democratic"
When I was a teenager I knew 2 butcher's that experience this battle. They told me that their gun barrels got red hot
I served in the 1/23
Second Division.
Every year we March 92 Miles on a three-day road march, there and back. In honor of our fallen battalion brethren.
Worst part is we do it in January. Marched in the coldest weather I've ever encountered, was there in Korea.
The story of the 1st and 23rd is amazing.
The "tomahawk"battalion, was a leg battalion.
Our CO was right out of the Ranger Battalions.
Man did we hump some yamas!!!
Walked all the way back to camp hovey from the DMZ.Ect.
I was there for Keene Mill son's 50th birthday. High alert.
Then vice President Bush, came to inspect us on the DMZ.
Only time I had steak and lobster in 12 years of service.
Smoking in the mess hall, picking fights with whoever. Those were the days.
My great uncle, the late Gen. Matthew Ridgway was tasked at cleaning up MacArthur's mess. I wonder why these vids don't accurately portray these missteps as a major contributing reason the US coalition had to dig itself out of the veritable hole MacArthur's command dug them into...
@johnmacaulay2915. Yep. Another lack of remembering history. Don't attack during cold, snowy winters. Macarthur forgot both Napoleon and Hitler going after Russia close to the beginning of winter.
It's always "US and allies" but when do the 1000 Filipino soldiers get credit for staying in their post vs 40,000 Chinese troops while everybody left their post which played a major role in the Korean war!?
Don't let people ignorant of history get you down. Anyone who is at all familiar with the Philippine people knows of their bravery and ferocity in battle, how hard they fight.
Grandad was a SGT of a mortar group in the 8th army. Didn’t talk much about it and I understand why now, as these dates line up with when he was there.
The US found a great counter to these wave attacks:
Quad mounted .50 caliber anti-aircraft guns.
The human wave attack sounds like the childhood game "Red Rover"
Always someone foolish enough to throw their life away for a government
Brainwashed Communism
Harsh but true, the road to hell is paved with good intentions
Or their religion. Or both
@@bfnfedboy2 Both
Japan ww2
Never did a human wave attack achieved a major victory in a combat situation
WOW! I had no idea. THANK YOU!
My uncle was one of the guys who walked off pork chop hill. He did it holding his guts in place.
it seems amazing that the Japanses used these same tactics only a few years before the Korean war and that it was the British and the Americans that FOUGHT for the Chinese..how a few years changes things
It gets confusing at times, that's certainly true. The communists versus the nationalists in the Chinese revolution, had begun fighting one another in the 1930s, and during that decade China was also invaded by Imperial Japan. A development which put the internal struggles of the Chinese people on hold, at least to an extent, while the foreign invaders were resisted and expelled. The Roosevelt administration dealt mostly with Generalissimo Chiang Kai‐shek, who headed the nationalist faction of the revolt. When the Japanese surrendered and the war ended, the conflict on hold between the communists under Mao and the nationalists began again, and ultimately the communists succeeded in winning their struggle against the nationalists, who were forced to flee to Formosa - now known as Taiwan - in 1949.
In international relations there is a saying and it is said that there are no permanent friendships or allies, only interests. That's a cynical view, to be sure, but quite common in those circles none the less.
Exceptionally well narrated video on a little know Chinese tactic.
Pretty well known I'd say, even infamously known
A few too many historical oversights and duplicate/misplaced footage shots that should have matched the narration. However, the most notable aspect of this video was that this was not a "...civil conflict..." (12:14) but rather a coordinated effort by No. Korea, China and the Soviet Union to expand communism. The people of So. Korea wished to live in a free society vs. one that No. Korea had implemented: that is, a Stalinist totalitarian regime even Stalin was impressed with. A stellar book entitled, "The Coldest Winter" by David Halberstam is worth the read and will certainly put much of the Korean War, its background, the politics from all sides and the brave men fighting the Communist forces into vivid perspective.
Can go with most of that except the 'So. Korea...free society' bit. It took decades, and a lot of political struggle, to become free. It certainly wasn't at that time.
Mr. Summerblade, tks for the post and please note I wrote "...wished to live..."--Lord knows the effort it takes to sustain a Republic (as America is finding out) let alone implement a free one in a country devastated by decades of war and personal/political intrigue. In any case I appreciate your thoughts and have a meaningful Xmas!
Another great Dark Video. Chinese and North Koreans possibly still have the human title wave approach as a last resort tactic in reserve. They're plenty of them.
My father survived Porkchop Hill. He walked in while we were watching the movie Porkchop hill, all he said was, there sure was a whole Hell more of them than that...😢
This is a thirteen minute video just to tell us that eastern militaries that aren't influenced by the west always eventually default to this.
Hackworth talks about the waves of Chinese soldiers in Korea in his book about face
As king Edward said in braveheart, "the dead cost nothing." It's expensive to maintain millions of mobilized soldiers. With a Chinese level population, you use pyhrric tactics and win battles and save money to feed tens of thousands of men.
How come you never mentioned the Turkish heroism and successes at the war. Every Korean War veteran I met has talked about Turkish heroism. Turks had the second largest UN contingent and you did not mentioned that. Why?
Was it UN or did you want to say NATO?