Best UK Sporter 2024 Browning 525 v MK38 Sporter Eastfield Gunroom review
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- In this video we take a close look at two of the UK's favourite sporting clay shotguns.
Despite being produced in the same factory there are some subtle differences between the Browning 525 S and Miroku MK38 sporters. Matthew lifts the lid on both guns and explains their differences and their suitability for sporting clays.
Finally Matthew offers his recommendation as he chooses what he believes is the UK's best sporter. - Sport
Thanks Mathew. love your content.
I have owned and shot Browning Citori's for about 45 years. It seems that instead of "Less Being More... It really is Less is Less!" The fit and finish of the newer Brownings, exhibit a much lower level of quality than in years past! Great video though!
Thank you for your comment. Interesting what you say about the fit and finish. I am pleased that you enjoyed the video. Kind regards, Matthew
Matthew I’ve the mk38 new trap miroku cousin of the sporter absolutely love it I use a silver pigeon sporter for sporting clays great gun as well I sold the browning 525 sporter as the trigger was sticking thanks from Belfast 👍
Thank you for your comment. I have to say that it is likely that hell will freeze over before any manufacturer produces a gun that holds a torch to the MK38 for what they cost. Kind regards, Matthew
I still shoot a 325 and a 3 800 T . I can't see any reason to upgrade. Love them both.
Thank you for your comment. Proof (as if it were needed) that this design has more than stood the test of time. Kind regards, Matthew
In a previous video you(when you were working in premier guns) you have done the same comparison between these both, I remember you mentioned that Miroku is made of special steel (as it writen on barrels) and browning from recycled, that's not a big deal but it's also a difference that has to be said, I own a mk38 and it's actually a great gun
Thank you for your comment. I believe that both makes are manufactured using recycled steel (they certainly seem to rust the same 😂). Kind regards, Matthew
Miroku are renowned for having straight barrels, that’s why they don’t ventilate the centre of them.
Thank you for your comment. Interesting theory. My thoughts on this are that Miroku do manufacture guns with ventilated barrels for other markets and surely all manufacturers should be producing straight/concentric barrels. Kind regards, Matthew
@@eastfieldgunrooman English gunmaker of certain renown for his barrel making process carried out extensive research into existing manufacturers products before setting out on his journey. His findings were that Miroku were far and away the straightest and most concentric, Krieghoff second, the rest, well, as they say, he is happy to tell the story.
I didn't loose my house this time Matt, as you know I am with you on this, I know I am old but I don't like the plain action, and every Browning I have tried always seem narrow in the hand to me, also why flush chokes I wonder?
The Midas chokes that come with the Browning 525 SL are weaker than the MK 38's Teague ones - do they fail worse? Thanks.
Thank you for your comment. I have never had a problem with the Midas (which are manufactured by Briley) chokes other than they tend to go a bit discoloured. The Teague chokes are excellent though. Kind regards, Matthew
I have an XS & XT pro 32" best ever guns😁👍
Probably a daft question ... But is there one line in the factory making parts that someone then chooses for either browning or miroku or separate lines for each brand? Ie are the parts common ( actions, barrels etc ) and then lightly branded or are they just similar design but entirely different?
Thank you for your comment. Honestly I have no idea. Maybe I will get to visit the factory one day. Kind regards, Matthew
Here in the States, Browning has been good enough to maintain the tradition of a cardboard box for everything from a Citori Hunter to a $4,200 725. There's something to be said for tradition! Even if that means putting it to your loyal customers....
Does the Miroku still come with cylinder and full flush chokes? A bit of a con really. Why not quarter and half.
Thank you for your comment. One of the worlds great mysteries....yes they do. Kind regards, Matthew
Great review
Thank you for your comment. I am pleased that you enjoyed the review. Kind regards, Matthew
Miroku over Browning 7 days a week. Same factory- completely different feels and standards. Browning sell a brand. Miroku sell the product.
I have had the pleasure of owning some very high end guns, and my current Mk10 deluxe takes a second to no gun.
Better of with a yildiz pro sporter same build quality as the mk38 and 525 but the yildiz is by far superior wood and nicer looking.
Yildiz is not even close to Miroku and Browning O/U in steel quality, adjustments and durability. Plus there is a huge difference between the Yildiz guns used in the reviews and the regular production ones…
Yildiz pro range use the same steel from Italy that's used to build the perazzi shotguns so the quality will be as good as the Browning and mk38
@@nicholasrichards2402although i agree the pro is a great gun- an mx12 for silver pigeon money, it isn't a better gun than an mk38, perazzi style guns are nowhere near as mechanically hard as a Miroku. The wood is better. But fit and finish externally again is not up to the european/japan standard. Great guns but an mk38 is better
@@fullchoke01 yes I agree with the fit and finish but the yildiz pro range is getting better with the quality of fit and finish internally and externally
@@nicholasrichards2402 they are great guns. I owned one for 6months in 2020. Probably one of the best buys you can make, small steps away from being very very hard to beat. Over here in Aus though for the same money as a grade 3 you can have a grade 3 mk38/mk10, and they are easily better guns finished to higher standards
You can't beat a miroku at any grade ,i loooked at a beretta eell 40th anniversary edition the other dsy in my local gun shop snd below it was a mk11on the same rack ,the betetta looked like a scaffolding plank in terms of wood ,and the finishing on the beretta for £7000 a grand more than the miroku was awful beretta hsve lost their way unless your buying a so10 ,berettas are so poorly finished
In what way do you think they are poorly finished? Wood to metal fit, joining of barrels??? What?
@1valg the wood to metal fit the engraving is shallow and lacks any detail,
The wood grade is totsl crap no figure to it whatsoever, for the price point get better wood on a sp5 .chequring is to fine laser cut and dosent even match the shape of the grip lines are all wrong ,and the top lever catches the wood and dosent return back to the right position when you close the barrel ,plus the stock and fore end are no where near a match or even made out the same piece of wood barrels are good action is solid and tested but for £7000 when a mk11 is £6000 I know what I'd have plus the oil finish is poor with lots of open grain still and very dry wood that's about it I think 🤔
@@1valgwood to metal is poor on beretta, finishing of machine work on steel, they really aren't comparable. There is more hand work on an entry level Miroku than a top tier Beretta, you don't need to look hard to see this either
@fullchoke01 I know that's why I own miroku guns still have a beretta sxs snd a a400 which are good quality ,but miroku is a much better finished product unless your paying big bucks
@@rossforbes8403I´m not thrilled about Beretta either. The only two i´d ever consider would be 694 and DT11 in sporting versions. EELL´s i´ll never understand.
The wood on Beretta has a tendency to be sub par.
I have a gereral dislike towards engraved game scenes, so i hate them all equally regardless of finish and make. Top lever catching wood i have never seen and i have seen quite a lot of them, not to say it is not true, i just don´t think its a common problem.
A lot of brands don´t oil their stocks enough, pity, since it makes a big difference. Fortunately its easy to do yourself.
I´ll probably never part with my MK-38, unless its replaced by another MK-38 😀
The gnashing of teeth and angst associated with choosing between these brands has always been humorous to me. Either, with an adjustable comb, would be acceptable. I would also lean toward the MK38 due to the tasteful engraving and the Teague chokes. As for the 'container', I would rather recycle the cardboard box and purchase a Negrini case than have to deal with a cheap ABS case. Question: Will those d@mned schnabel fore ends ever go out of style? 🤥
Thank you for your comment. Agreed this is a battle of the brands that will go on for decades to come. Regarding the schnabel forends, many shooters here in the UK opt for a beavertail conversion. Kind regards, Matthew