Honestly, I think everyone can agree that they're genuinely better off as solo artists. Especially Camila and Normani. Camila was already great and her solo career made her better. Normani was really pushed back in the group and look at her now, She's finally getting the recognition she deserves because she's so underrated.
Im sorry but normani is the 2nd one who had the most solos and screentime. Lauren is the one who was pushed back. I remember some of their live performances Lauren was just there dancing holding her mic 😂
@@woopshtbetta Yeah I know 😅 I'm also talking about her treatment. I don't remember quite well so I might be wrong but I think she was treated the worst from fans (I remember Lauren and Camila being the most loved ones though.)
@@woopshtbetta Ummm wrong. It was mainly Camila and Lauren who had the most screen time and was the most “popular” bc y’all loved to ship them even though Lauren didn’t like that at all.
Okay wait, I love normani but she's not really doing anything. Guys my comment has nothing to do with normanis skin color... I'm genuinely confused on why that's even something to respond to me with. She's a lovely dark skin woman who's killing it, that doesn't mean I can't point out that she hasn't done anything or put out any work in a minute. I'm not really into her music like that so it's not like I'll know anything 🤷🏿♀️. Nvm they deleted their comment.
@@JoseHernandez-ei1vp hasn't she been solo for like 3 years?? and she still doesn't have an album out, while I'm pretty sure the other girls have released either an album/ep of some sorts. 😭😭 she keeps coming back like once a year, doing a single that gets like a mediocre amount of attention and just disappears. I lover her a lot and I am truly rooting for her, but people are gonna start to move on from her if she keeps this up 🥴
I think the problem was that after Camila left the group the label wasn't interested in the group anymore so they didn't promote them at all. It's all about promotion and money. Because we know nowadays there are so many songs that are horrible but are everywhere because of promotion and payola. The song wasn't bad and the album wasn't bad either. They have really good songs. But nobody outside from the fandom knew about it because of what i said before.
Normani with Sam Smith in Dancing With A Stranger is up there with my favorite duets of all time. I hope to hear more of her future collabs. she has an amazing voice.
I wouldn’t say it’s “the song that ruined their careers”. It’s just the song they made before realizing that they’re not gonna make it and breaking up.
@@JayyThao Honey, you can word however way you want, in the end the song that ruined their career was DOWN. You’re just taking it a bit too literal. If DOWN didn’t flop so badly, they wouldn’t had gone on that hiatus. That’s on period.
@@superbluerock8327 honey, that song did not ruin their career. It’s a song they made before they broke up. Ruining is when you put out a really bad song that everyone hated so much that they cancelled.
@@littlesparrowchirps2311 Aw thank you! I don’t know honestly, I didn’t make it. I don’t know their name but I know that a Japanese artist made it. I found it on the Internet a few years ago and have been using it ever since.
Down was not unique enough to highlight their new era cuz it sounded like something they've done before, however that album was so diverse and full of HITS....it was so underrated and the fact that it was the first album where all of them had writing credits, I'm pretty sure this album meant a lot to them.
Although I loved them, only 4/11 of their songs slap and none of them are single worthy. They needed better songs and a set tone for their new era. They had potential.
i loved that album but they needed to come back with a bang if they wanted to follow up work from home,also i think their management gave up on them kinda but it's whatever now i just need normani 1 😔🤲🏽
@@noutelie what a horrible take. Every song on that album is great. The only song that was meh was “Bridges”. Angel and Lonely Night would’ve made great singles (Angel was the second single but it should been the lead).
If they made ‘he like that’ as their main single then they wouldn’t have flopped!! that album was probably one of my fave 5h albums and deserved so much more recognition
This was the group with little to no chemistry between them. I am glad that they all went different ways towards their own choices and career. Edit: I am so terribly sorry if i offended anyone. I really am.
Lmao, Normani and Lauren's relationship as well as everyone (I'm talking about the 4 of them) with everyone else prove you wrong. They love each other. Just listen to what Lauren says on the Zach Sang interview.
When I was 12-13 I loved listening to their songs: 1.Down 2.Work from Home 3.Don't Say You Love Me 4.Worth It But same here I'm happy they went their own ways coz damn it's been idk 6 years or more since then we all listened to their songs and ngl he's right about their song Work From Home being everywhere Even in the Philippines back in 2016 when my Dad and I would take a taxi ride to the mall I always loved the song coming up on the radio
You definitely have been doing some research, but all in all Fifth Harmony stopped being promoted after Camila left. The budget for music videos were less, He like that got no promotion for radio and the remix flopped as well. The girls knew that they weren't getting treated right, and decided to let it go, I can't really blame them.
@@tamari1127 yep there is a remix still on CZcams. They cut Ally's verse and added French Montana. It honestly didn't make the song better, they could've kept Ally's part.
It wasn't their fault, it's important to recognize that. They were treated like trash by their company I'm so fully glad with how free and good they all are being now, regardless if they're doing something musically or not. I'll always support the four of them
So i guess you were one of those who hated camila in 5h and still give shade after she left. Glad she is the most successful of them all now. She was the face of 5h and the one that carries the group. No wonder their album flop when she left. 😝
"Down" didn't end 5th Harmony. Lack of promotion from their record label did. After poor sales their record company pulled the plug and they tried to push Camilia. And that didn't really work either.
False Camila flourished after she left the group and want even signed to their company for them to try and push her. When she left their sales dropped because she was the bread maker and the most biased member of the group. That and coupled with the rumors of them bullying and excluding her they hit rock bottom. The company did a good thing by pulling the rug because why invest in a train wreck. They weren’t really make money from them anymore and this is a business. You can’t pay everyone off scraps so they had to have their budged cut.
I honestly think no matter how good the song was, it would’ve flopped anyway. Camila was the star of the group, and most people stopped caring about 5h after she left.
Lies. They were all stars. Camilla just had the most attention n was popular n got treeatdd the best. And even after she left the album was 🔥 fire. Better than their previous album. But Camilla fans kept dragging the girls claiming the girls bullied her. Well after all said and done Camilla was hot for one or two years now she quiet and fat 🤦🏽♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️n her Cinderella movie flopped so bad. They said she sounded like bones cracking.
It wasn’t the song that ruin their career as Fifth Harmony, because of their label treating them like shit and overworked them as well. Nothing to do with the song they release, they just had shitty management. That is the real reason.
Even if they hadn’t released Down I’m pretty sure they still wouldn’t have been successful. With Camila gone and a shitty label like Epic Records that wouldn’t invest in them (no promotion, not enough tracks on the album, low budget for tour and music videos etc) they didn’t stand a chance as a group, and since they all originally wanted to be solo artists they were destined to break up eventually.
Omg so true because why are so many of their unreleased songs soooo much better than what they actually put on the albums. The label just didn't want these girls to succeed, sigh
Camila had a boost when she left the group early. She’s the ONLY artist that has an Audio and Music video to reach 1 billion views. Fifth Harmony didn’t stand a chance and it was better to split up and focus on themselves. Now Normani is the second most successful one from all of them.
@@fbi1156 yeah but the execution was such a bully move. Them trying to explain it was just a damage control because people didn’t laugh about it and switched on Camila’s side
@@mangerboire7893 If I am not mistaken it is a scene where there where five of them standing on stage at first while hiding their face and then suddenly the girl in the middle kind of jump off backwards. I am so sorry if I cannot explain well and I do not know if I am really correct. That is what I remember of their performance.
I wouldn’t say the song ruined their career. Actually, their management stopped promoting them after camila left, which is kinda the biggest reason, in addition to mistreating them.
Funny how when Camila left, they implied that she wasn't "strong and committed" like the rest are, but when the rest left, it was just them "needing to be authentic to themselves." Seems like a bit hypocritical to me 🤔
It was obvious the audience only saw Camila as the star of the group. They weren’t destined to be a girl group anyway. They all started out as solos but X-Factor made them to be a group. I’m glad they all went their separate ways and are doing the things they originally wanted.
yeah Camila stood out the most because of her unique voice and charisma. however it’s unfortunate when fans narrow in on only one artist when the others are talented as well. Same with 1D (Harry styles) and Little Mix (Perrie)
Its called perspective. You zero in on where the Director wants you to look. Camila was the labels pick over the other girls. But the most talented had the whole package, the savage on stage every time was Dinah.
@@redeemedstone I agree, Dinah was my personal fav for that reason but if you also watch the 5h takeovers and see more of their personalities you’ll see that although the directors pushed her in front, she was also very quirky and likeable which made it easy to market.
I feel like the reason they mostly "flopped“ was their label not really standing behind them after Camila left, bad promo, Down as a lead single, but especially the whole drama surrounding Camila‘s breakup and the gp kind of "choosing“ Camila‘s side. I loved their last album, but to be honest I think they are better off as soloists and they wouldn‘t have been able to hold the success they had as a quintet.
It’s not just that it’s also the fact that these girls treated Camilla like shit that’s why she left I mean a band member leaving to pursue a solo career never seem to effect other groups take one direction for example zayn malik left the group to go solo and he’s done well as a solo artist but the other 4 boys did great as well even without zayn they kept hitting numbers and charts but for these girls the second Camilla left the label didn’t want them no more what label is going to want a bitch group of girls
He Like That was such a summer song, I don't know why they didn't use it as the head single... their label is stepping them up to failure though, they don't want Down to be the head single too, but the label insisted.
Down follows the hit-making formula of Worth It and Work From Home, so why choose something else when you can stick with the iconic sound? The higher ups thought it would work, but the formula wasn't the problem. It's Camila. Using He Like That wouldn't have changed anything.
@@scissor_w_gwen so the formula is repetitive chorus, beat and verses? Also i agree, without camilla the fanbase decreased drastically, the fanbase wasn't an ot5 stans, so the label took advantage of it and used the most popular member for center
@@scissor_w_gwen trust me i still remember when they released Down. the public didnt like it because it sounded like worth it and WFH. they wanted something different and better. so He Like That/Angel/ or any other songs would be perfect for lead single. not Down
@@shafiqdemi That's...what I said. They *thought* it would work. However, without Camila, they failed to please the public. Down was strategically their best move by playing it safe, but somehow still backfired because it lacked the flavor that Camila added to 5H. But you do have a point. Angel was (imo) the best song on the album and deserved much more.
Even if down became successful, im pretty sure they already planned leaving after this era, lauren was already counting her days with her contract on fifth harmony. The amount of stress and labor that the girls were given explains why they all wanted to leave one by one
Tbh the song “Down” was really good and the album but it was so weird without Camila.. Watching live performances without her was awkward because Camila always spoke to the crowd & held fans hands whilst performing but after she left the Group.. The live performances were kinda boring & there wasn’t much communication with the group and with the crowd I always wondered what they would be like as solo’s (that was their dreams anyway) especially when Camila did IKWUDLS it got me thinking about it Camila with her unique voice Normani being the best dancer/riffs/going low on notes/whistles Ally with her huge high notes Lauren with her raspy voice Dinah with the falsettos/riffs/high notes I’m so thankful Normani is being seen for her singing and her amazing dancing I’m happy to hear Camila solo (ngl she was my (is) favourite and it was 1 of my dreams just to hear a song with only her voice.. Sorry) I’m very happy to hear Lauren because she uses almost no Auto Tune and we can hear her raspy voice so much better! Dinah and Ally haven’t really given us a song that shows their full potential (the things I know they are capable of doing) I’m currently waiting on a song from Dinah and Ally that gives us feeling.. High notes/whistles/falsettos/riffs etc (I have heard all their solo songs and ones that haven’t been released) both of there songs “Bottled Up”/“Low-key” are soooo good but I’m waiting for slower music (I think all of them sound better when its a slower song) kinda like.. “1000 hands” “no way” ect Sadly the Record Label only allowed them to put out “catchy/upbeat” songs but I honestly preferred all the “emo” songs😂👀 we could actually hear ALL their vocals My favourite solo songs are Ally - Perfect Camila - Tbh I can’t choose because we got to many choices but maybe Something’s Gotta Give/I Have Questions Dinah - Heard It All Before Lauren - Falling Normani - Love Lies My favourite Fifth Harmony song is probably No Way My favourite without Camz is Don’t Say You Love Me/Messy I love all songs with AND without Camila.. I miss them so much, I hope in future we get a reunion of all 5🤞💕
Before the infamous Star Sprangled Banner performance Fergie had been rather less popular than she was before. Fergie peaked when she released The Dutchess where all of the singles released from the album were very successful (the album is very amazing too!). Tbh she actually gained the attention that she hadn't gained for quite some time since that performance.
Aw I still listen to their song “down” I like it. I remember watching them perform it early in Good Morning America ❤ I’ll always love their music. 🎶 from all 3 albums 😊
I also think them being petty and shading Camilla at that one live concert was the biggest impact against their career. Then people started noticing how much Camilla was actually getting bullied by the girls, especially at old interviews.
@@kaitlyn_ashby Have you ever watched any interviews when they would asked about her. Normani literally said she would call her racial slurs and disrespect the other girls. You can literally look it up and it’s there.
The label didnt believe in them in the first place. I also do not know why Down was the single they released first, every song in the album was so much better than Down
the rest of the girls are shining too dinah she’s singing for her culture lauren she’s singing for healings and ally is doing her own thing it’s not just camila and normani that’s having goood things
They are all treated badly by their labels now though. Lauren even went independent now because she wasn't allowed to release music and I feel like Normani is being held back too
It would’ve been so good if they put Lonely Night as their main single!! I can’t imagine how good the music video would’ve been if they did one for it!
I kinda honestly think, the song Down. Wasn’t the reason for the downfall, I think it was more the fact that. They weren’t getting much same attention and popularity as foursomes, like when they were fivesome with Camila. I do agreed about her popular member of group, ever since she left the group as the group was never. Ever really the same and popular anymore without her, that’s why I think why the group lost their popularity. And they were never same after that and I believe that why the band break up.
I love Fifth Harmony as a group and I hope they release music together again with all the 5 members, it will be so iconic 🔥 I will forever be Harmonizer ❤️
Misleading information. Their last album "Fifth harmony" was 1 of 2 of their most successful projects. It sold 46k the first week, and was actually their 2nd most successful Era. Although 'Down ft. Gucci Mane' peaked at #42, their album debut at number 4 on Billboard Hot 200. This marked their fourth top 5 and third top 5 album. Same as Destiny's Child. Internationally, the album did great numbers as well, even debuting at number one in Spain. That Era after Camila left, was not how people set it out to be. Fifth Harmony still bagged a lot of success off that album and it wasn't a flop. I think people expected the worst or a "flop era" because the pressure was on Fifth Harmony at the time, but they still came through. It seems people believe it was their worst era and didn't give them credit for how hard they've work during that time.
Camilla brought a lot to the table like she brought her unique voice, her energy and the way she stands out in music videos.Her harmonics or whatever. She was a valuable asset and also she had a fleet of fans who weren't happy about the way things went down. She also did so well as a solo artist and utilized Fifth Harmony's popularity to her advantage and produced owesome music she kinda stole the spotlight.
After the VMAs when they did that stunt I was over them. That's also why...idc if Camila was whatever she was but when you choose hate you get what you gave. That's what happens.
That stunt made them lose a lot of their fans. Most of their fans were just there for Camila, and trying their best to also support the other girls....but when they pulled that stunt, the fans gave up.
@@williammahe guess the best way to get back at racism is doing stunts 😆 really showed her to stop being racist huh? It didn't because if it was about racism something worst would have happened. That's not how you correct and approach racism. I've had my fair share of racism even from my own birth mother who's white. If it was really about racism and not jealousy I think that stunt would have been different.
@I and its been proven its a normani stan who did it. she apologized said she never thought normani will see it and left twitter now, but her friend was bragging about it. like?? that fandom is a fvcking mess. they loved pitting the girls to each other.
I used to love fifth harmony so damn much i even bought tickets to a Lauren Jauregui's concert and payed vip to see her and i gotta say that SHE'S SUCH A SWEETHEART i told her that i love her voice and also that I've been loving her since fifth harmony and she literally changed the topic once i mentioned fifth harmony to complementing me in such a cute way, I'm sure that the group didn't have the same impact after camila left, because the managers probably didn't want to keep promoting the girls like when they did when Camila was still on the group i still love them all
@@samyscreation1435 literally every girl on that group has a problematic past it's just that camila is way more relvant so her actions are considered to be heavier and she's also the only one that I've seen apologized for her past and actually show a change of attitude with actions, the others just ignore the call out lol.
@@nathanielgrand I don’t really know. I just love how her voice sounds and the tone. Also her dancing is so good I could just watch her dance for forever
Not people literally spinning accusations without even knowing the group lol. The four girls were close and still are close and literally lived through the trauma of the music industry from being kids to young adults. They all even speak about how bonded they still are.
Honestly that album had some grt songs like 'he like that' ' dont say u love me' which actually were really good if ppl didnt just leave em coz umm Camilla's shreak voice(goshh idk y ppl even like camilla's voice so much she isnt gonna last that long
i feel like in most bands even though we love them together like for one direction for example they always shine sm more when they are individual artists like niall horans songs are j ❤ but in 1d he barely had any solos. Even fifth Harmony Camila and normani are shining rn ❤
I remember when Camila started her solo career always stanned but I’ve also stanned the girl group after she left and “down” was such a good song and the rest of their songs were so good as well. It’s sad how things went but I guess it was the ending of that era.
what ruined their career was Camila leaving.... just like The Spice Girls when Geri left. their first 2 albums sold 30+ million each, and the third album barely sells 3 million.
Deadass. It’s literally mixers and Camila fans who made that up. Especially the little blenders. Maybe if mixers focused on LM as much as they did on 5H then LM wouldn’t be so local and unknown everywhere.
@@rotisserie8444 It's funny how you're talking about mixers trashing 5H but here you are, trashing LM. "They wouldn't be so local and unknown everywhere". You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Little Mix is popular in a lot of countries. I hope you know that you're going just as low as those disgraceful stans did when they hated on Fifth Harmony.
Honestly I don't really care what anybody says but they literally flopped because Camila left she was literally the main focus of the group and she was pretty much the only reason they were even still together. Not to mention they were destined to break up eventually anyways considering they all wanted to pursue soloist careers anyways. Which I think it was better that way anywho and supposedly their record label f****** sucked to so. And I really do hate to sound harsh but most boy band / girl groups don't usually last and at most they last for a few years and they usually just end up breaking up I actually just found out recently I never knew this Never Shout Never broke up like forever ago and that's why I haven't heard any music from them but I just found out recently apparently Christopher Drew was still putting out music and I just didn't f****** know
They are still my favorite group bc i love their songs and they each have so much talent. I love to follow their solo careers and see the art they always wanted to produce
Nahhh! Normani’s the most anticipated one. Camila has proven herself already and im excited of normani’s album! Lauren deserves a supportive label tho ☹️
@@woopshtbetta yeah normani is more popular but in my opinion Lauren has more beautiful voice. again being talented doesn't mean you have to be famous and i would prefer stanning a unknown person than stanning someone who's racist and annoying (camila)
Honestly, I think everyone can agree that they're genuinely better off as solo artists. Especially Camila and Normani. Camila was already great and her solo career made her better. Normani was really pushed back in the group and look at her now, She's finally getting the recognition she deserves because she's so underrated.
Im sorry but normani is the 2nd one who had the most solos and screentime. Lauren is the one who was pushed back. I remember some of their live performances Lauren was just there dancing holding her mic 😂
@@woopshtbetta Yeah I know 😅 I'm also talking about her treatment. I don't remember quite well so I might be wrong but I think she was treated the worst from fans (I remember Lauren and Camila being the most loved ones though.)
@@woopshtbetta Ummm wrong. It was mainly Camila and Lauren who had the most screen time and was the most “popular” bc y’all loved to ship them even though Lauren didn’t like that at all.
Normani hasn’t done shit but dance and be a model for other ppls videos. She’s boring and should just stay a dancer!
@@darkday1450 hater detected
Glad they went their own ways, Normani is finally shining the way she needs to
1000th like
Okay wait, I love normani but she's not really doing anything.
Guys my comment has nothing to do with normanis skin color... I'm genuinely confused on why that's even something to respond to me with. She's a lovely dark skin woman who's killing it, that doesn't mean I can't point out that she hasn't done anything or put out any work in a minute. I'm not really into her music like that so it's not like I'll know anything 🤷🏿♀️.
Nvm they deleted their comment.
@@basedblackgirl9920 only real fans know how much she’s doing. She doing it all. This year is her year
@@JoseHernandez-ei1vp hasn't she been solo for like 3 years?? and she still doesn't have an album out, while I'm pretty sure the other girls have released either an album/ep of some sorts. 😭😭
she keeps coming back like once a year, doing a single that gets like a mediocre amount of attention and just disappears. I lover her a lot and I am truly rooting for her, but people are gonna start to move on from her if she keeps this up 🥴
@@aetheruhh I keep hearing it’s the record labels fault for her not releasing an album yet 😩 but idk
I think the problem was that after Camila left the group the label wasn't interested in the group anymore so they didn't promote them at all. It's all about promotion and money. Because we know nowadays there are so many songs that are horrible but are everywhere because of promotion and payola. The song wasn't bad and the album wasn't bad either. They have really good songs. But nobody outside from the fandom knew about it because of what i said before.
That's so true. Camila is really talented but so is the other girls.
This 👆🏾
They should be an independent musician with no label
I always thought it was funny because her voice irritates me. It’s too whiney and I think the others are better songers
@@myliza700 same!
My fav vocalist was Normani
Normani with Sam Smith in Dancing With A Stranger is up there with my favorite duets of all time. I hope to hear more of her future collabs. she has an amazing voice.
Love this song!
I wouldn’t say it’s “the song that ruined their careers”. It’s just the song they made before realizing that they’re not gonna make it and breaking up.
@twice it’s not. If you open up a dictionary and look up the word “ruin”, it’ll give you a definition, smarty.
Ok so ruined, cause if it didn’t flop they wouldn’t have broken up sooner
@@JayyThao Honey, you can word however way you want, in the end the song that ruined their career was DOWN. You’re just taking it a bit too literal. If DOWN didn’t flop so badly, they wouldn’t had gone on that hiatus. That’s on period.
@@superbluerock8327 honey, that song did not ruin their career. It’s a song they made before they broke up. Ruining is when you put out a really bad song that everyone hated so much that they cancelled.
@@JayyThao same thing
Lauren is so underrated she deserves so much more
She actually sings, she always looked like an extra
She is painfully underrated man.
I FUCKING KNOW, she's my mom and I's favorite! Her voice is just so damn good and strong.
She's painfully lazy
Yesss this is the oneee
Their song Don't say you love me is amazing, so sad 😭😭 they were great!
"Down" is actually one of my favorite songs by them, probably one of my Top 3 faves by them.
I think they were all better as solo artists, all good just not together.
Could I ask about your pfp? I really like it and was curious where it’s from ^^;
@@littlesparrowchirps2311 Aw thank you! I don’t know honestly, I didn’t make it. I don’t know their name but I know that a Japanese artist made it. I found it on the Internet a few years ago and have been using it ever since.
@@stitchedmouthgirl Oh I see, thank you for answering ^-^ Yea, it’s really cool looking >w
Guess they aren’t “Better Together” …they’re first album name…😂
Even though I do miss them as a group I agree Especially considering how it went behind closed doors with their management
Down was not unique enough to highlight their new era cuz it sounded like something they've done before, however that album was so diverse and full of HITS....it was so underrated and the fact that it was the first album where all of them had writing credits, I'm pretty sure this album meant a lot to them.
Although I loved them, only 4/11 of their songs slap and none of them are single worthy. They needed better songs and a set tone for their new era. They had potential.
Lmao this profile picture tho
i loved that album but they needed to come back with a bang if they wanted to follow up work from home,also i think their management gave up on them kinda but it's whatever now i just need normani 1 😔🤲🏽
"Down" for me sounded like "work from home"...
@@noutelie what a horrible take. Every song on that album is great. The only song that was meh was “Bridges”. Angel and Lonely Night would’ve made great singles (Angel was the second single but it should been the lead).
DOWN IS A BANGER
If they made ‘he like that’ as their main single then they wouldn’t have flopped!! that album was probably one of my fave 5h albums and deserved so much more recognition
This was the group with little to no chemistry between them. I am glad that they all went different ways towards their own choices and career.
Edit: I am so terribly sorry if i offended anyone. I really am.
Lmao, Normani and Lauren's relationship as well as everyone (I'm talking about the 4 of them) with everyone else prove you wrong. They love each other. Just listen to what Lauren says on the Zach Sang interview.
When I was 12-13 I loved listening to their songs:
1.Down
2.Work from Home
3.Don't Say You Love Me
4.Worth It
But same here I'm happy they went their own ways coz damn it's been idk 6 years or more since then we all listened to their songs and ngl he's right about their song Work From Home being everywhere
Even in the Philippines back in 2016 when my Dad and I would take a taxi ride to the mall I always loved the song coming up on the radio
looking from the outside it semeed like they were not even friends, just co-workers
@@MilaBelen they don't
WRONG.
You definitely have been doing some research, but all in all Fifth Harmony stopped being promoted after Camila left. The budget for music videos were less, He like that got no promotion for radio and the remix flopped as well. The girls knew that they weren't getting treated right, and decided to let it go, I can't really blame them.
There was a remix for He like that???
This the one! Their label didn’t care about them when Camila left.
Right. But he like that was one of their best!! Oh
@@tamari1127 yep there is a remix still on CZcams. They cut Ally's verse and added French Montana. It honestly didn't make the song better, they could've kept Ally's part.
@@canon6363 oh yeah, now I remember. Thx.
I absolutely love Normani! ❤️❤️❤️🌺🌺🌺
Patiently waiting on normani's album😭
It wasn't their fault, it's important to recognize that. They were treated like trash by their company
I'm so fully glad with how free and good they all are being now, regardless if they're doing something musically or not. I'll always support the four of them
the FOUR of them?
the shade💀
@@_erik_2138 😂😂😂😂‼️
So i guess you were one of those who hated camila in 5h and still give shade after she left. Glad she is the most successful of them all now. She was the face of 5h and the one that carries the group. No wonder their album flop when she left. 😝
THE FOUR OF THEM. YES GIRL
"Down" didn't end 5th Harmony. Lack of promotion from their record label did. After poor sales their record company pulled the plug and they tried to push Camilia. And that didn't really work either.
I recognise a true harmonizer comment when I see one. Thank you! Everyone else commenting is so wrong
False Camila flourished after she left the group and want even signed to their company for them to try and push her. When she left their sales dropped because she was the bread maker and the most biased member of the group. That and coupled with the rumors of them bullying and excluding her they hit rock bottom. The company did a good thing by pulling the rug because why invest in a train wreck. They weren’t really make money from them anymore and this is a business. You can’t pay everyone off scraps so they had to have their budged cut.
I honestly think no matter how good the song was, it would’ve flopped anyway. Camila was the star of the group, and most people stopped caring about 5h after she left.
Lies. They were all stars. Camilla just had the most attention n was popular n got treeatdd the best. And even after she left the album was 🔥 fire. Better than their previous album. But Camilla fans kept dragging the girls claiming the girls bullied her. Well after all said and done Camilla was hot for one or two years now she quiet and fat 🤦🏽♀️🤷♀️🤷♀️n her Cinderella movie flopped so bad. They said she sounded like bones cracking.
I care more about the other four, then I care for Camila. She’s nothing but a money maker for her legal company, that’s all she is to me.
It wasn’t the song that ruin their career as Fifth Harmony, because of their label treating them like shit and overworked them as well.
Nothing to do with the song they release, they just had shitty management. That is the real reason.
Finally someone with sense. These other "fans" in the comments make me want to vomit
@@terrispencer4913 Yep, I agreed. Thanks👍🏼
At least you are making sense
And because they were bullies
@@Thisshitsdumb They never bully her, that just bullshit story.
Even if they hadn’t released Down I’m pretty sure they still wouldn’t have been successful. With Camila gone and a shitty label like Epic Records that wouldn’t invest in them (no promotion, not enough tracks on the album, low budget for tour and music videos etc) they didn’t stand a chance as a group, and since they all originally wanted to be solo artists they were destined to break up eventually.
I hope Shakira is not under epic anymore. Anyways when she was under epic she only had like 2 hits per album max.
Omg so true because why are so many of their unreleased songs soooo much better than what they actually put on the albums. The label just didn't want these girls to succeed, sigh
Camila had a boost when she left the group early. She’s the ONLY artist that has an Audio and Music video to reach 1 billion views. Fifth Harmony didn’t stand a chance and it was better to split up and focus on themselves. Now Normani is the second most successful one from all of them.
I think their AMA’s performance is what actually ruined them. It was such a bully move. BIG MISTAKE
@@woopshtbetta they explained what the reason behind that was.
@@fbi1156 yeah but the execution was such a bully move. Them trying to explain it was just a damage control because people didn’t laugh about it and switched on Camila’s side
@@woopshtbetta could you explain quickly what is it please?
@@mangerboire7893 If I am not mistaken it is a scene where there where five of them standing on stage at first while hiding their face and then suddenly the girl in the middle kind of jump off backwards. I am so sorry if I cannot explain well and I do not know if I am really correct. That is what I remember of their performance.
I wouldn’t say the song ruined their career. Actually, their management stopped promoting them after camila left, which is kinda the biggest reason, in addition to mistreating them.
I mean, “work from home” was an IMPOSSIBLE act to follow. That song blew up. I don’t even know what they could’ve done to top it.
Funny how when Camila left, they implied that she wasn't "strong and committed" like the rest are, but when the rest left, it was just them "needing to be authentic to themselves." Seems like a bit hypocritical to me 🤔
I wouldnt call someone who leaves in the middle of a tour commited
@@leavemealone322 She was correct to do so, however, seeing how she just went on a consistent rise right after.
Camila is racist so who cares 😁
EXACTLY
Camila made her best decesion. She went on a high note constantly after that. And the rest of them no where to be found.
It was obvious the audience only saw Camila as the star of the group. They weren’t destined to be a girl group anyway. They all started out as solos but X-Factor made them to be a group. I’m glad they all went their separate ways and are doing the things they originally wanted.
Many groups started as solo , little mix/ one direction guess they all weren’t destined to b groups
yeah Camila stood out the most because of her unique voice and charisma. however it’s unfortunate when fans narrow in on only one artist when the others are talented as well. Same with 1D (Harry styles) and Little Mix (Perrie)
Its called perspective. You zero in on where the Director wants you to look. Camila was the labels pick over the other girls. But the most talented had the whole package, the savage on stage every time was Dinah.
@@redeemedstone I agree, Dinah was my personal fav for that reason but if you also watch the 5h takeovers and see more of their personalities you’ll see that although the directors pushed her in front, she was also very quirky and likeable which made it easy to market.
@@noutelie agreed, but who knows what else they filmed of the other girls that ended up on the cutting room floor.
blame their label
Camila stand out among the group.i don't even know the other girls.
You knew normani when she dance infront of Camila. Camila wasn't all that "either she was there or nothing still would have been a flop.
I feel like the reason they mostly "flopped“ was their label not really standing behind them after Camila left, bad promo, Down as a lead single, but especially the whole drama surrounding Camila‘s breakup and the gp kind of "choosing“ Camila‘s side. I loved their last album, but to be honest I think they are better off as soloists and they wouldn‘t have been able to hold the success they had as a quintet.
YES
It’s not just that it’s also the fact that these girls treated Camilla like shit that’s why she left I mean a band member leaving to pursue a solo career never seem to effect other groups take one direction for example zayn malik left the group to go solo and he’s done well as a solo artist but the other 4 boys did great as well even without zayn they kept hitting numbers and charts but for these girls the second Camilla left the label didn’t want them no more what label is going to want a bitch group of girls
Correct
He Like That was such a summer song, I don't know why they didn't use it as the head single... their label is stepping them up to failure though, they don't want Down to be the head single too, but the label insisted.
Down follows the hit-making formula of Worth It and Work From Home, so why choose something else when you can stick with the iconic sound?
The higher ups thought it would work, but the formula wasn't the problem. It's Camila. Using He Like That wouldn't have changed anything.
@@scissor_w_gwen so the formula is repetitive chorus, beat and verses?
Also i agree, without camilla the fanbase decreased drastically, the fanbase wasn't an ot5 stans, so the label took advantage of it and used the most popular member for center
@@scissor_w_gwen trust me i still remember when they released Down. the public didnt like it because it sounded like worth it and WFH. they wanted something different and better. so He Like That/Angel/ or any other songs would be perfect for lead single. not Down
@@shafiqdemi That's...what I said. They *thought* it would work. However, without Camila, they failed to please the public. Down was strategically their best move by playing it safe, but somehow still backfired because it lacked the flavor that Camila added to 5H.
But you do have a point. Angel was (imo) the best song on the album and deserved much more.
Angel would have been a good lead single or even dont say you love me
Even if down became successful, im pretty sure they already planned leaving after this era, lauren was already counting her days with her contract on fifth harmony. The amount of stress and labor that the girls were given explains why they all wanted to leave one by one
Tbh the song “Down” was really good and the album but it was so weird without Camila.. Watching live performances without her was awkward because Camila always spoke to the crowd & held fans hands whilst performing but after she left the Group.. The live performances were kinda boring & there wasn’t much communication with the group and with the crowd
I always wondered what they would be like as solo’s (that was their dreams anyway) especially when Camila did IKWUDLS it got me thinking about it
Camila with her unique voice
Normani being the best dancer/riffs/going low on notes/whistles
Ally with her huge high notes
Lauren with her raspy voice
Dinah with the falsettos/riffs/high notes
I’m so thankful Normani is being seen for her singing and her amazing dancing
I’m happy to hear Camila solo (ngl she was my (is) favourite and it was 1 of my dreams just to hear a song with only her voice.. Sorry)
I’m very happy to hear Lauren because she uses almost no Auto Tune and we can hear her raspy voice so much better!
Dinah and Ally haven’t really given us a song that shows their full potential (the things I know they are capable of doing)
I’m currently waiting on a song from Dinah and Ally that gives us feeling.. High notes/whistles/falsettos/riffs etc (I have heard all their solo songs and ones that haven’t been released) both of there songs “Bottled Up”/“Low-key” are soooo good but I’m waiting for slower music (I think all of them sound better when its a slower song) kinda like.. “1000 hands” “no way” ect
Sadly the Record Label only allowed them to put out “catchy/upbeat” songs but I honestly preferred all the “emo” songs😂👀 we could actually hear ALL their vocals
My favourite solo songs are
Ally - Perfect
Camila - Tbh I can’t choose because we got to many choices but maybe Something’s Gotta Give/I Have Questions
Dinah - Heard It All Before
Lauren - Falling
Normani - Love Lies
My favourite Fifth Harmony song is probably No Way
My favourite without Camz is Don’t Say You Love Me/Messy
I love all songs with AND without Camila.. I miss them so much, I hope in future we get a reunion of all 5🤞💕
To be fair, the management they were under is notorious for inhumane treatment. They probably would have left the moment their contracts ended anyway.
“The song that ruined careers” the American national anthem, Fergie
Before the infamous Star Sprangled Banner performance Fergie had been rather less popular than she was before. Fergie peaked when she released The Dutchess where all of the singles released from the album were very successful (the album is very amazing too!). Tbh she actually gained the attention that she hadn't gained for quite some time since that performance.
Dude I love fergie, she’s great
Down was inescapable in PA for only a week though. Thanks for reminding me of that banger of a song.
Honestly down idc what anyone says it was good i mean camila always has same god damn voice with what sounds like same songs over and over again
Can’t wait for Normani’s album, Laurens music is amazing and I happy Ally & Dinah are doing what they want the way they want too.
same I’m so excited for normani’s album she deserves all the success
I read Ally’s autobiography. So good. Give it a read!
@@Onmymind1 not gonna lie. I got it for Christmas 2020, I’ve just not remembered to pick it up and get into it yet 😬
Ally has a latin pabulum coming soon fun fact/ Dinah released an ep a while back
@@jordannow13 loll I have a hard copy, but I also listened to the audio book to follow along or for a listen. It makes it easier.
all these bands and their “indefinite hiatuses” 😂 just spare us the lies and say y’all are breaking up. It’ll hurt less
I know. Little Mix also said so but they were stronger compared to Fifth Harmony. Bond, harmonies etc.
Tbh I don’t know any of there name except for Camilla and Normani .. I have herd there songs on the radio though and they all have rlly nice voices
imagine how big they would be if “Angel” was just promoted properly but im glad they’re doing well now esp camilla and mani.
I actually love the songs they released after Camila's departure.
He like that, Down, Deliver, they were so good.
Same and Angel
he like that is my SHITTTT it’s such a nice dance track
omg me too!!
Me too
LONELY NIGHT, MAKE YOU MAD, SAUCED UP. THAT ABUM HAS NO SKIP
What really killed them was that performance when they threw anyway the body representing Camila
Yeah...
This
No, it was a power move, litterary exposed her or being racist
@@queenofthenight3518 ...no? That's not what did it at all. Hell, the gp didn't like them to some degree because of it.
This! Then camila just finished them by having her #1 song on her own and specially by not reciprocating the shady attitude the group had towards her.
Down was work from home part 2. Imho they should’ve promoted “angel” and “he like that” more
Aw I still listen to their song “down” I like it. I remember watching them perform it early in Good Morning America ❤ I’ll always love their music. 🎶 from all 3 albums 😊
they're all so talented its a shame what happened to them
I also think them being petty and shading Camilla at that one live concert was the biggest impact against their career. Then people started noticing how much Camilla was actually getting bullied by the girls, especially at old interviews.
Maybe if Camilla didn’t say and do things to them then maybe they would be nicer to her. So it goes both ways.
@@AC-ir2mz wheres your proof that she said or did anything wrong to them??
@@kaitlyn_ashby she's a mean racists who let normani get bullied by her fans and didn't say anything about it and she admitted to making racist posts
@@kaitlyn_ashby Normani came out saying that Camilla would use racial slurs towards her. Camilla also said she did so.
@@kaitlyn_ashby Have you ever watched any interviews when they would asked about her. Normani literally said she would call her racial slurs and disrespect the other girls. You can literally look it up and it’s there.
Blessing for them as it’s been said by many, they were abused, neglected, & mistreated by their label
Work from home everywhere in 2016
2020 : oh honey....
The label didnt believe in them in the first place. I also do not know why Down was the single they released first, every song in the album was so much better than Down
I'm still glad Normani is the one of the Good things to come out of this hiatus
Who
@@JM-mr6pz bruh
@@JM-mr6pz Someone with more success than you’ll ever have in your life.
@@devinespaces2976 awww look at you!!!!
the rest of the girls are shining too
dinah she’s singing for her culture
lauren she’s singing for healings
and ally is doing her own thing
it’s not just camila and normani that’s having goood things
I love them throughout everything they been thru, great pop group ❤
Down and songs in thatbsame album was dope! It was a radio hit
They are all treated badly by their labels now though. Lauren even went independent now because she wasn't allowed to release music and I feel like Normani is being held back too
Is this true or not
It would’ve been so good if they put Lonely Night as their main single!! I can’t imagine how good the music video would’ve been if they did one for it!
I kinda honestly think, the song Down. Wasn’t the reason for the downfall, I think it was more the fact that.
They weren’t getting much same attention and popularity as foursomes, like when they were fivesome with Camila.
I do agreed about her popular member of group, ever since she left the group as the group was never. Ever really the same and popular anymore without her, that’s why I think why the group lost their popularity.
And they were never same after that and I believe that why the band break up.
I love Fifth Harmony as a group and I hope they release music together again with all the 5 members, it will be so iconic 🔥
I will forever be Harmonizer ❤️
The album tho was critically acclaimed. Even tho the sales weren't great I think the group would still end in hiatus. It's better for them.
Misleading information. Their last album "Fifth harmony" was 1 of 2 of their most successful projects. It sold 46k the first week, and was actually their 2nd most successful Era. Although 'Down ft. Gucci Mane' peaked at #42, their album debut at number 4 on Billboard Hot 200. This marked their fourth top 5 and third top 5 album. Same as Destiny's Child. Internationally, the album did great numbers as well, even debuting at number one in Spain. That Era after Camila left, was not how people set it out to be. Fifth Harmony still bagged a lot of success off that album and it wasn't a flop. I think people expected the worst or a "flop era" because the pressure was on Fifth Harmony at the time, but they still came through. It seems people believe it was their worst era and didn't give them credit for how hard they've work during that time.
If I remember correctly the album sold more than Miley’s Younger now album which dropped around the same time.
exactly. and the “Fifth Harmony” album had sooo much more potential it’s filled with bops
Norman and Camila got a chance to shine on their own
In my opinion, their last album was their best even though it didn’t have that much commercial success. It was so cohesive and they sounded amazing.
Also their label didn’t promote their last album AT ALL
Normani coming in with her dudududut song YES
I love that song, and thats the sound i just used 😶💀
This was my favourite album from them its sad that it didn't do so much
What ruined their career was them dissing Camila by throwing that body off stage
I had a secondhand embarrassment from watching them
Yea I was thinking the same the shade really shouldn't have come out cuz they got sat down real quick.
@@DreamOutProud They had too, it was a pr stunt. I hated their management so much still do
That’s not a song lol
Wym
The lead single should've been He Like That, Down was a really basic first impression
down>>> work from home
but y'all aint ready for that convo
Camilla brought a lot to the table like she brought her unique voice, her energy and the way she stands out in music videos.Her harmonics or whatever. She was a valuable asset and also she had a fleet of fans who weren't happy about the way things went down. She also did so well as a solo artist and utilized Fifth Harmony's popularity to her advantage and produced owesome music she kinda stole the spotlight.
I still listen to all of fifth harmony’s songs even the latest and oldest albums they have
same 😅I was such a huge fan of them in 2014-2017
Personally.. i think *Down* was okay.. it wasn’t that bad tho
I agree, “Down” wasn’t a bad song. It was just it didn’t get much attention, that it deserves.
Work from home was my jam back when I was working from home 💀
After the VMAs when they did that stunt I was over them. That's also why...idc if Camila was whatever she was but when you choose hate you get what you gave. That's what happens.
True! That was so disappointing and Camila unfollowed all of them after that. she wasn’t expecting that kind of treatment from her former bandmates
I mean "whatever she was" was racist so...
Its almost like it was their managements decision to pull take stunt and not theirs….🤦♀️
That stunt made them lose a lot of their fans. Most of their fans were just there for Camila, and trying their best to also support the other girls....but when they pulled that stunt, the fans gave up.
@@williammahe guess the best way to get back at racism is doing stunts 😆 really showed her to stop being racist huh?
It didn't because if it was about racism something worst would have happened. That's not how you correct and approach racism. I've had my fair share of racism even from my own birth mother who's white. If it was really about racism and not jealousy I think that stunt would have been different.
Look at Normani now thank GOD and I happy for the other good as well
Down was a hit
Angel should’ve been the FUCKING DEBUT single to the album
They should have just added a new member instead of taking a break.
Right!!
Like Sweet California
For sure
That's ridiculous You know they would have been getting more shade than ever tbh 😂😢😅😊
Not only that yet the racism Normani was enduring also.
Right.
Yep. Americans hate her for being black in a group
What “racism”? A few random people online making comments? Come on, as if that matters
@I Whatever, just ignore trolls
@I and its been proven its a normani stan who did it. she apologized said she never thought normani will see it and left twitter now, but her friend was bragging about it. like?? that fandom is a fvcking mess. they loved pitting the girls to each other.
The song didn't ruin their career they did.
I used to love fifth harmony so damn much i even bought tickets to a Lauren Jauregui's concert and payed vip to see her and i gotta say that SHE'S SUCH A SWEETHEART i told her that i love her voice and also that I've been loving her since fifth harmony and she literally changed the topic once i mentioned fifth harmony to complementing me in such a cute way, I'm sure that the group didn't have the same impact after camila left, because the managers probably didn't want to keep promoting the girls like when they did when Camila was still on the group i still love them all
When Camilla left the group that’s where it begun to flopped and then Camilla being more recognize on her solo career
*as a racist
@@samyscreation1435 girl she’s one of the most streamed female artists lol. Also every girl in that group had a problematic past so don’t even.
@@samyscreation1435 literally every girl on that group has a problematic past it's just that camila is way more relvant so her actions are considered to be heavier and she's also the only one that I've seen apologized for her past and actually show a change of attitude with actions, the others just ignore the call out lol.
Racist*
@@amanda-almeida she a one hit wonder. Besides most people don’t fw anymore because of her racism.
In my opinion Normani was always the best in 5th Harmony. Im so glad she’s making her own music now, but she’s so underrated.
That's everyone's opinion though even camilizers, that's y they mad
How was she the best ? I’m wondering why this is your opinion
@@nathanielgrand I don’t really know. I just love how her voice sounds and the tone. Also her dancing is so good I could just watch her dance for forever
@@nathanielgrand bcuz she isn't lack luster
@@Mr.Mister-24_th I always felt like she was the most underwhelming of the group lol. That’s my opinion. You have yours.
I still listen to work from home, especially since I now work from home 😂
They were extremely unprofessional, in my opinion. THAT ruined their career.
Not people literally spinning accusations without even knowing the group lol. The four girls were close and still are close and literally lived through the trauma of the music industry from being kids to young adults. They all even speak about how bonded they still are.
Fifth Harmony “Make you Mad” is a bop
Honestly that album had some grt songs like 'he like that' ' dont say u love me' which actually were really good if ppl didnt just leave em coz umm Camilla's shreak voice(goshh idk y ppl even like camilla's voice so much she isnt gonna last that long
Atlast! Somebody said it . Camilla literally sings so bad . Like somebodies choking her lol
i feel like in most bands even though we love them together like for one direction for example they always shine sm more when they are individual artists like niall horans songs are j ❤ but in 1d he barely had any solos. Even fifth Harmony Camila and normani are shining rn ❤
I’m good with them being solo… like Lauren’s music is amazing… her debut album was a 110/10
I remember when Camila started her solo career always stanned but I’ve also stanned the girl group after she left and “down” was such a good song and the rest of their songs were so good as well. It’s sad how things went but I guess it was the ending of that era.
what ruined their career was Camila leaving.... just like The Spice Girls when Geri left. their first 2 albums sold 30+ million each, and the third album barely sells 3 million.
Yep!
2016 is the biggest year of every Top idol exist today😭
The dramas, movies, songs were 🔥
I love how people keep making up lies about them having no chemistry?? Like y'all never really stanned them
Deadass. It’s literally mixers and Camila fans who made that up. Especially the little blenders. Maybe if mixers focused on LM as much as they did on 5H then LM wouldn’t be so local and unknown everywhere.
@@rotisserie8444 It's funny how you're talking about mixers trashing 5H but here you are, trashing LM. "They wouldn't be so local and unknown everywhere". You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Little Mix is popular in a lot of countries.
I hope you know that you're going just as low as those disgraceful stans did when they hated on Fifth Harmony.
@@varunravi27 At least Little Mix's songs are so famous in asian. Not only famous in west countries like other american artists
all of them can't even spell Camila's name right and they speak like they knew everything that happened to group.💀
Down is a really good song idk what y'all talking about cos when Down dropped it became #2 on iTunes overnight 🙃
No one even cares about iTunes anymore💀
I genuinely cannot name a single song by them
If losing one person destroys your group, you weren’t bringing anything special to the table, you were just riding someone’s coattails.
Honestly I don't really care what anybody says but they literally flopped because Camila left she was literally the main focus of the group and she was pretty much the only reason they were even still together. Not to mention they were destined to break up eventually anyways considering they all wanted to pursue soloist careers anyways. Which I think it was better that way anywho and supposedly their record label f****** sucked to so. And I really do hate to sound harsh but most boy band / girl groups don't usually last and at most they last for a few years and they usually just end up breaking up I actually just found out recently I never knew this Never Shout Never broke up like forever ago and that's why I haven't heard any music from them but I just found out recently apparently Christopher Drew was still putting out music and I just didn't f****** know
They are still my favorite group bc i love their songs and they each have so much talent. I love to follow their solo careers and see the art they always wanted to produce
I miss them ever since,I even feel jealous for Camila,bcoz we ended up loosing all of the four,so was the point of leaving for others to fall
Starting on X Factor, someone leaving the group then announcing a hiatus.
Why do I feel like, i have heard this story?!👀
Thank God they are on hiatus. Lauren's project is one of the best.
Nahhh! Normani’s the most anticipated one. Camila has proven herself already and im excited of normani’s album! Lauren deserves a supportive label tho ☹️
@@woopshtbetta yeah normani is more popular but in my opinion Lauren has more beautiful voice. again being talented doesn't mean you have to be famous and i would prefer stanning a unknown person than stanning someone who's racist and annoying (camila)