Mamamax Is a Complete FRAUD...

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  • čas přidán 16. 01. 2024
  • Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at a CZcamsr that frankly has made a mockery of a serious situation that permeates the depths of our society. While he's gained good will in the past, a recent investigation by Mamamax has sealed the deal on his career and calls to action. Thanks for watching!
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  • @SomeOrdinaryGamers
    @SomeOrdinaryGamers  Před 5 měsíci +2304

    Check out Nicholas Deorio's video as well!: czcams.com/video/-p8H5k0REb0/video.html

  • @konstantinivanov1717
    @konstantinivanov1717 Před 5 měsíci +8357

    I love how MamaMax can't drop the edgy creepypasta reading voice even when discussing serious topics or responding to criticism

    • @DougBurgum4VP
      @DougBurgum4VP Před 5 měsíci +643

      It's because he doesn't take this seriously at all

    • @Colddirector
      @Colddirector Před 5 měsíci +853

      I still remember thinking the voice was a little wierd when I first saw one of his videos, but seeing it now is genuine cringe, it makes it hard to watch.

    • @65firered
      @65firered Před 5 měsíci +388

      1:11:29 He drops the voice when he tries to excuse not providing evidence. Kind of interesting that he drops the voice when he's on the defensive.

    • @Thefan
      @Thefan Před 5 měsíci +197

      Yeah there's something really off about him using it to talk about something so serious, he makes it sound like he's making a video about ARGs or something

    • @pramusetyakanca1552
      @pramusetyakanca1552 Před 5 měsíci +104

      Same here. Just tone it down a bit, and it'll be _leagues_ more serious than whatever demonic tone of voice MamaMax speaks in.
      It can make the video more entertaining and can somewhat help call more attention to the topics at hand. But don't go sounding like a goddamn Decepticon.

  • @Arcademan09
    @Arcademan09 Před 5 měsíci +3767

    Him putting on a "spooky voice" , even while *talking about negative feedback* is already a massive red flag

    • @robertnapier624
      @robertnapier624 Před 5 měsíci +195

      Yeah, whatever happened to speaking normally?

    • @redacted2275
      @redacted2275 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@robertnapier624Somehow, he sounds like a bootleg Corpse and people still took him seriously. 🤌

    • @jackdaniel3135
      @jackdaniel3135 Před 5 měsíci +236

      Poor guy is so fake that he even has to fake a voice.

    • @Robbie-mw5uu
      @Robbie-mw5uu Před 5 měsíci +180

      Yeah it's really annoying. Barely Sociable does the same thing. It's like for fuck's sakes, man, you're talking about someone potentially getting murdered and here you are making a spoopy voice to sensationalize and profit from the situation. It's so disgusting.

    • @Calamity556
      @Calamity556 Před 5 měsíci +91

      EXACTLY. How can anyone even take Mamamax seriously when he does a voice like that? What a complete joke.

  • @bvang0520
    @bvang0520 Před 4 měsíci +2039

    Some dude on Fivr got paid $5 to roar with fake vampire teeth for mamamax and is now a cult leader

    • @cc_the_rebel
      @cc_the_rebel Před 4 měsíci +84

      YALL 😂

    • @smartbutvapid
      @smartbutvapid Před 4 měsíci +34

      💀💀💀

    • @jermfanaccount
      @jermfanaccount Před 4 měsíci +185

      this would be even funnier than it already is if this Camdon guy actually ended up being innocent (since there's no actual evidence on him yet) lmaoooo

    • @highdefinition450
      @highdefinition450 Před 4 měsíci +45

      ikr this shit is so goofy lmao what

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 4 měsíci +26

      Definitely had to sign an NDA before making the roaring video😂😂😂😂

  • @BOOMADAM
    @BOOMADAM Před 5 měsíci +1716

    The thing that annoys me is the fact that Max claims "This person will try to make counter claims to disprove what we've said" - Yes. Anyone would do that if they were being wrongly accused.

    • @Lacter12
      @Lacter12 Před 4 měsíci +66

      it's called a kafka trap

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Před 4 měsíci +151

      He also tried to insinuate that anyone who doesn't like him is a pedo/kidnapper/rapist, soooo...

    • @DiamondWisps
      @DiamondWisps Před 3 měsíci +33

      Anyone will make counter claims, wrongly accused or rightly so. That's why the hard evidence he's so mad people are asking for is so important.
      Like, he himself is making counter claims against all the arguments against him, how doesn't he see that? Difference is, his claims aren't backed

    • @Skelath
      @Skelath Před 3 měsíci +6

      This reeks of charity scammer drunk with power thinking he's unstoppable.

    • @MadmanDKDK
      @MadmanDKDK Před 2 měsíci

      @@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      He also consulted ChatGPT for legal advice, instead of asking a pro bono lawyer...
      That says alot about his level of integrity.

  • @GuyWithChainsaw
    @GuyWithChainsaw Před 5 měsíci +4685

    It's kinda hilarious how Max goes from talking about the dangers of AI to using ChatGPT for legal advice

    • @phantomwarrior8686
      @phantomwarrior8686 Před 5 měsíci +213

      Dude is a living controversy

    • @jasonvargas7564
      @jasonvargas7564 Před 5 měsíci +292

      He’s a walking contradiction and a hypocrite.

    • @DomesticBonking
      @DomesticBonking Před 5 měsíci +177

      The funny thing is if you use a lot of AI and ask them a legal question the AI themselves say “ Its important to consult with a legal professional who specializes in the relevant area of law to ensure you receive accurate information and representation if needed.”

    • @phantomwarrior8686
      @phantomwarrior8686 Před 5 měsíci +82

      @@DomesticBonking I guess they literally programmed the AI to always do that when questioned about legal matters so the developers don't get in trouble
      Or something like that, Idk, give a read

    • @PLATINUM_Rook
      @PLATINUM_Rook Před 5 měsíci +6

      I have no idea how I missed that

  • @packgod.
    @packgod. Před 5 měsíci +16788

    The fact he waited 3 years to cover this yet was trying to bash critical for not responding sooner is insane.

    • @rockyraidy7194
      @rockyraidy7194 Před 5 měsíci +709

      It’s honestly crazy how he managed too deceive so many people tbh and the fact that people never even saw through his lies is pretty crazy

    • @cultovcrows8142
      @cultovcrows8142 Před 5 měsíci +743

      gonna need a mamamax diss track now

    • @Eden-qc8if
      @Eden-qc8if Před 5 měsíci +259

      diss track on max when?

    • @error-try-again-later
      @error-try-again-later Před 5 měsíci +288

      Guarantee that if critical HAD done it sooner he would have bitched about "doing it for clout."

    • @havochellian1248
      @havochellian1248 Před 5 měsíci +120

      The amount of digs on Max that could be made into diss track verses is insane. You could get like 5 on just the spicy anime reviews alone

  • @peachmic4875
    @peachmic4875 Před 5 měsíci +1489

    I'm a CSA survivor, and as stupid and edgy I knew his videos are, I still wanted to believe there was some truth to them because I desperately needed to think these monsters would be stopped forever. So I looked up to him a lot for a big part of my teenage years.
    Now seeing everything is fake makes my stomach turn.
    Giving so many damaged people the hope that this could be stopped, but doing nothing about it... It just feels like having salt rubbed into a wound, so it never heals.

    • @l4ur4na
      @l4ur4na Před 5 měsíci +108

      Exactly how I felt. Discovered him and I felt so much comfort as someone who has gone through the things he preached he was “setting out to stop”. Taking a step back and seeing everything for how it is makes me feel so embarrassed

    • @hauntedshadowslegacy2826
      @hauntedshadowslegacy2826 Před 4 měsíci +64

      I feel for you. James Somerton sicced his audience on the asexual community after some of us tried to correct him on some misinformation he'd spread. If MamaMax's fans try the same with you, just know that they're the problem, not you.

    • @MungoFishing
      @MungoFishing Před 4 měsíci +20

      Well he was doing SOMETHING about it and that something is making money.

    • @Dekzek
      @Dekzek Před 4 měsíci +30

      Im starting to think it is a mental health issue and he has delusional thinking. Like I don't know if he is in control of his thinking.

    • @WobblesandBean
      @WobblesandBean Před 4 měsíci +41

      I was groomed as a young teenager, too. The guy was like this "cult leader" too, he was this guy in his 20s who claimed to be a vampire.
      When this story first broke, I was saddened by everyone just automatically assuming the accuser was lying, going "hard evidence" this, "hard evidence" that. When I was groomed, I didn't even know that what was happening to me WAS grooming, that's the entire reason why guys target young girls for that purpose. Also, it happened before the internet was a widespread thing. How could I be expected to go back and get evidence of that? It's absurd to expect young girls to have the foresight and the wherewithal to automatically mistrust someone they're close to and record every single interaction with everyone, just in case. And it's not like the internet doesn't have a marked history of being misogynistic and disregarding most victims without even bothering to hear their story.
      But watching this video, all I feel is a pit in my stomach. If it's all fabricated, that's so incredibly damaging to people like you and me. Because this is so high profile, It just means more victims will be ignored and even flat out turned against by the masses, something I know can be more than enough to drive them to do something drastic, like...um... "Self Crit" (thanks youtube for taking away our voices and not able to mention important topics).
      It's hard not to feel hopeless in the face of all this.

  • @slovakiaballif24
    @slovakiaballif24 Před 4 měsíci +447

    Hearing him unironically say “now we always need things like evidence. We can’t just listen to people’s stories.” sounds beyond parody. Image a world where someone just saying your guilty automatically condemns you to a guilty man’s fate

    • @nignamedmutt7270
      @nignamedmutt7270 Před 4 měsíci +20

      Don't have to. North Korea and countries governed by Sharia Law already exists.

    • @batz3235
      @batz3235 Před 3 měsíci +21

      You could say in a way we already have that. Not legally but how many lives have been destroyed by false allegations. Even when those allegations are proven false later the damage has been done.

    • @evgenivasileuski559
      @evgenivasileuski559 Před 2 měsíci

      I can smell a crowded jails, like, the whole world, even judge, lawyer, and even home shut NEET, sitting in one cell.

  • @KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies
    @KROGANLovesKittensAndPuppies Před 5 měsíci +3536

    "Stop with the theatrics. Present this with the respect it deserves."
    That pretty much sums up how I've always felt about MamaMax. I respected what I thought he was doing but I've always hated the edgy approach. Talking about children's lives, the "look at how cool I am" part does nothing but make a mockery out of a very serious subject.

    • @toasterenthusiast6188
      @toasterenthusiast6188 Před 5 měsíci +171

      Honestly, I'm surprised it took this long for people to call him out on this, it was very evident from his videos that it was all just entertainment at the end of the day.

    • @beccaricciardi2910
      @beccaricciardi2910 Před 5 měsíci +72

      agreed! I respected how he would attempt to out predators, but the edgy clips of himself made me roll my eyes so gd hard 🙄

    • @glasslicker2829
      @glasslicker2829 Před 5 měsíci +59

      @@toasterenthusiast6188I believe that it was probably hard to call him out because his fan base witch-hunt people and most people don’t want to have to deal with that.

    • @Dreamingofthisplace
      @Dreamingofthisplace Před 5 měsíci +13

      W pfp

    • @StitchesAndBitches
      @StitchesAndBitches Před 5 měsíci +24

      i honestly agree, especially now the whole flash and theatrics is just fucking insensitive (also nice deftones pfp)

  • @myboomstick-dx8sg
    @myboomstick-dx8sg Před 5 měsíci +2798

    Funny how when Mamamax gets genuine criticisms, he just deflects by bringing up defenseless children as a shield. What a hero.

    • @panickedshears
      @panickedshears Před 5 měsíci +275

      And then calls the person criticising him a predator without any evidence 🤦‍♂️
      What a douche

    • @whosaprettykitty5076
      @whosaprettykitty5076 Před 5 měsíci +180

      He’s been doing this for a while- using pedfiles and victims as a crutch. He has a terrifying “you’re with me or against me” approach because he will hurl that accusation at you in a heartbeat.

    • @2000_Ribbon
      @2000_Ribbon Před 5 měsíci +70

      Yeah if you've seen his streams recently, whenever he doesn't really have a response to something he just mentions something along the lines of "so you don't want for survivors to speak out about their experiences?"

    • @jasonvargas7564
      @jasonvargas7564 Před 5 měsíci +39

      I’ve warned his fans for so many years. But they never listened. Glad they’re finally opening their eyes to the truth

    • @GrimReaping
      @GrimReaping Před 5 měsíci +23

      Oh wont you please think about the children!

  • @ErisIsAnAbomination
    @ErisIsAnAbomination Před 5 měsíci +176

    I’m only 20 minutes in and as a survivor myself, the goddamn analog horror creepypasta editing is KILLING me. The guy looks and sounds like he’s moments away from flashing “29 buried, 0 found” and a distorted face PNG on the screen, not gearing up to expose something REAL. It’s like he’s pretending to be Anonymous and playing around with this whole thing… What a slap in the face.
    Update: In actual disbelief over the fact that he ADMITS 80% of this shit isn’t real 👁👁

  • @anaisalexandre5558
    @anaisalexandre5558 Před 4 měsíci +171

    (English is not my main language, sorry for the spelling/grammar mistakes)
    I'm a CSA survivor, I was abused by a member of my family for years until I left my home and cut ties with my entire family at 18.
    When I discovered Mamamax's channel, it was almost a revelation. Finally! someone was giving a shit about us, someone who didn't care about the bad buzz or the backlash, he was going all in for us no matter what.
    His videos were extremely cathartic for me, I never got justice because when I went to the police station at 21 years old to file a complaint I didn't have any evidence or proof of what happened, the abuse had happened a decade ago, I didn't have any pictures or videos or anything other than my testimony with me. Ultimately, it was my word against my abuser's and my complaint was dismissed. I knew it would happen, I was devastated anyway. So his style of editing, with the violent imagery of Hotline Miami and the baseball bats and the fact that, maybe, the guys in his videos were getting what they deserved calmed my anger for a little while because God knows I dreamt of doing it to my abuser more times than I can count.
    Now I feel used. I feel like my trauma was used for fame and recognition, that our stories were only there to feed his ego and his online persona. That behind every CSA survivor was a potential ego boost for him. Knowing that he lied, probably created things and made us believe it was true just... I was going to write "disappoint me" but we're way past disappointment. I kinda feel numb. And stupid for putting my trust in a random stranger on the internet, enough to subscribe to his Patreon for a year and give him money just to deceit us. Of course it was too good to be true. I was blinded by my trauma and my need for justice like many others and he took advantage of this to build an entire fanbase. It's sick. I feel sick.

    • @rimanahbvee
      @rimanahbvee Před 3 měsíci +13

      When we are weakest sometimes its easy to form a parasocial esque relationship, all we have is ourselves in the end, sometimes loved ones

    • @anaisalexandre5558
      @anaisalexandre5558 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @islandbabe88 yes and you shouldn't assume stuff about people you don't know on the internet, it's not because I didn't mention going to therapy that I never saw a therapist fyi. learn to be less ignorant and mind your own business, nobody forced you to read my post. good luck x

    • @krisf4969
      @krisf4969 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Your abuser will get their judgement from God one day. Stay strong and remember God loves you! @anaisalexandre5558

    • @outbacksteakhouseofficial
      @outbacksteakhouseofficial Před 8 dny +2

      Your English is perfect, you have a very poetic way of writing that is difficult for even native speakers to master. Thank you for sharing your story ❤

  • @luftballonzz
    @luftballonzz Před 5 měsíci +13082

    what really irked me about mamamax and made me unsubscribe was how his recent videos were filled with weird artistic editing and spooooky cult imagery, and then only like, three minutes of it were ACTUALLY dedicated to the victims and the situation at hand. it felt like it was much more about him and his evergrowing hero complex than it ever was about bringing a predator to justice.

    • @ragingumbreon2003
      @ragingumbreon2003 Před 5 měsíci +830

      thisss omg. I couldn't even take his godcult video seriously because the editing is so over the top and crazy. he barely even discusses video topics and then deflects when called out for it. crazy people in this world

    • @bensadfleck9972
      @bensadfleck9972 Před 5 měsíci +447

      thank you! i had a weird feeling about this guy and his editing style but i couldn't put it to words. This whole things reeks of a 14 year old analog horror for something that should be treated with respect.

    • @Micchi-
      @Micchi- Před 5 měsíci +284

      Too much ARG in the videos

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +214

      I think that really shows where his real motivation and priorities are at. And it’s certainly not about caring about the victims and bringing justice for them

    • @luftballonzz
      @luftballonzz Před 5 měsíci +138

      @@NickyBlue99 you're so right, how could I have been so uncultured 😔

  • @stoiconthastix
    @stoiconthastix Před 5 měsíci +1351

    An NDA does not, I repeat, DOES NOT prevent the disclosure of illegal or illicit activity!

    • @acutelilmint8035
      @acutelilmint8035 Před 5 měsíci +101

      You’d think chat got would tell max that..

    • @fuckiopussigetti453
      @fuckiopussigetti453 Před 5 měsíci

      BREAK DOWN THE WALLS

    • @xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395
      @xhappyponyxwasmyoldname1395 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@acutelilmint8035AHAHAHA after all, “ChatGPT understands the legal system”

    • @theradiantdehd3997
      @theradiantdehd3997 Před 5 měsíci +56

      Any sort of agreement or contract is only as strong as a judge wants it to be. This isn’t an exception. The waivers that McKamey manor uses aren’t exceptions, etc. You can’t just write a contract or NDA that allows you to break the law or to abuse others. How Max doesn’t understand that is beyond me.

    • @madsfiedler3884
      @madsfiedler3884 Před 5 měsíci +8

      they also arent necessarily binding/applicable in Most situations

  • @4nn4h
    @4nn4h Před 4 měsíci +194

    "we need evidence now, we need to consult with lawyers (...) we can't just listen to victims."
    I'm a victim of CSA and CSAM. I don't have enough evidence to bring a case against my abuser, because I deleted and destroyed everything related to him out of shame, fear, and anger. It was a mistake, but it's too late now. I do NOT think my word should be enough to get him locked up, even though I would like him removed from society until he is no longer a danger. For my family and friends, I'd like them to believe me based on my testimony, at least enough to offer comfort - but in a court of law, it's a different story.

    • @rainbowgash14
      @rainbowgash14 Před 3 měsíci +22

      EXACTLY. When someone close to me shares that they were abused by another person, I will believe them unless proven otherwise. In a court of law, it is very different, as false accusations are often life ruining and the law system wants to make sure an accusation has actual merit and evidence backing it up before punishing the person accused.

    • @Mamba503
      @Mamba503 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Absolutely based take

  • @TenkDD
    @TenkDD Před 5 měsíci +169

    I'm not even making any assumption or accusation here but "filmmaker dedicated to empowering children" is the most groomer-ass description a youtuber could ever have why would anyone write that willingly

    • @smokingalcohol2945
      @smokingalcohol2945 Před 3 měsíci +2

      It's because he's a sociopath

    • @TenkDD
      @TenkDD Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@smokingalcohol2945Well duh he's a youtuber

    • @Drakoak
      @Drakoak Před 3 měsíci +13

      ​@@smokingalcohol2945sociopath just means you lack empathy doesn't mean he gotta be cringe too lol

    • @smokingalcohol2945
      @smokingalcohol2945 Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Drakoak he said he enjoys doing this shit to people, and he clearly uses others emotions to his benefit. Thats pretty sociopathic to me dude idk

  • @Wired_User
    @Wired_User Před 5 měsíci +1643

    The woman with the incredibly southern twang just digging into him on a livestream was great. Shoutout to her: asking the real questions and demanding basic effort be put in. 😂

    • @Rhinocodon
      @Rhinocodon Před 5 měsíci +117

      I am quite sure that is Xylie

    • @R_S747
      @R_S747 Před 5 měsíci +207

      Her voice is just great 😂 I love how she doesn't back down even when Max is trying to give her sas

    • @MorganVsTheInternet
      @MorganVsTheInternet Před 5 měsíci +170

      ⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Rhinocodonit was Xylie she freaking dragged him for his stupidity 😭

    • @GekkoOne
      @GekkoOne Před 5 měsíci +121

      "Internet vigilante for views only" sums Max up, short and simple

    • @infinitecurlie
      @infinitecurlie Před 5 měsíci +35

      ​@@MorganVsTheInternet Love Xylie, she's great.

  • @jojothebard6687
    @jojothebard6687 Před 5 měsíci +4393

    Faking a controversy to gain clout is one thing, but actually using legitimate survivors of child trafficking just to elevate your savior complex, warping their real, unheard stories into some sort of pretentious, cringy, and tonedeaf ARG for edgelords is a whole new level of unfathomable heartlessness. This is not from the bottom of your heart, Max. This from the bottom of your ego.

    • @minecrewsupernt831
      @minecrewsupernt831 Před 5 měsíci +23

      Facts

    • @EldenRingStreams
      @EldenRingStreams Před 5 měsíci +31

      Very well said

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 5 měsíci

      With the Spencer thing there's something to keep in mind. She's not a random victim who contacted him. They've known each other since she was in kindergarten with his sister. Now ask yourself what are the odds that someone who considers themselves a "pedophile hunter" would just happen to know a victim of a sensational werewolf/vampire pedophile cult? That seems _incredibly_ fortuitous. And now we know he'll just make things up...

    • @thehunterjk2521
      @thehunterjk2521 Před 5 měsíci +153

      Inquisitor3 killed himself over baseless accusations. Then you got Max over here saying we should believe in baseless accusations because apparently it’s quicker than the official police channels 🙄

    • @ZachGatesHere
      @ZachGatesHere Před 5 měsíci +53

      The fact that anyone still believes Spencer et al are actual victims and not actors in his "film production" still baffles me. I cannot understand why anyone doesn't get that the entire thing is fake. Max has never produced any evidence against anyone and has said in calls to assume that EVERYTHING in his videos is fake except "the person being an abuser." There is no cult. There are no victims. The whole thing was fictional from day one.

  • @SwarfCrawler
    @SwarfCrawler Před 2 měsíci +46

    A thought just occured, he spent hours writing letters to youtubers, if he really cared, he'd spend that time writing the POLICE and filing a real report.

  • @alexiswilf5814
    @alexiswilf5814 Před 5 měsíci +172

    Having given this man money, being a former subscriber for years, interacting in his discord frequently and almost being hired by MamaMax as a voice actor ; learning all of this shit breaks my heart but it definitely needs to come to light. Knowing I supported him makes me sick. Thank you for creating this video

    • @shinski8114
      @shinski8114 Před 3 měsíci +9

      Its a lesson learned. Learn from this mistake and try not to be as naive

    • @chasegimbel1904
      @chasegimbel1904 Před 2 měsíci

      Probably a voice actor for one of his many performances

    • @StrykeSZN
      @StrykeSZN Před měsícem +1

      How did you blindly follow him when he had no evidence. No one to blame but yourself unfortunately

    • @jaspurrz
      @jaspurrz Před měsícem +6

      ​@@StrykeSZN "so youre telling me you were manipulated by a manipulative person? you only have yourself to blame"

  • @treepigg7967
    @treepigg7967 Před 5 měsíci +742

    "Why is it my job?" Its so wild to hear someone try to dodge responsibility like this.

    • @ASpooneyBard
      @ASpooneyBard Před 5 měsíci +115

      Especially because the whole reason they were having that conversation is because he took on the responsibility himself. He could have just told the story and passed the investigation on to someone more qualified, but he decided that it was "his job" instead.

    • @notatrollll
      @notatrollll Před 5 měsíci +89

      Dont forget the batman voice changer to sound oh so cool

    • @jasonvargas7564
      @jasonvargas7564 Před 5 měsíci +26

      I’ve said this many times over the years and his fans kept accusing anyone criticizing max as being pro PDF files. I bet they feel really smart now

    • @jefferyandbob3137
      @jefferyandbob3137 Před 5 měsíci +18

      @@notatrollll oh my god hearing him put on his "tough guy" voice during that was hilarious

    • @lifestokens7469
      @lifestokens7469 Před 5 měsíci +32

      "Why is this my job?" Maybe because you brought attention to this tragic situation, livestreamed with one of the victims multiple times while trying to contact popular internet creators, and is known to have a yt channel that posts about this topic. Like who the fuck else's job would it be. He did a horrible job informing people about the facts on this issue without the bare minimum of proof to back it all up. What I personally hate about all of this is how he has been parading one of the victims. Having her defend him when he is cornered to a wall with speculations and criticism. He is a disgraceful humanbeing for his poor handling of this very serious issue.
      I hope this is resolved and the victims don't suffer anymore from all the negative attention this dumbass has caused.

  • @sylwiasadowska208
    @sylwiasadowska208 Před 5 měsíci +2777

    TBH his predator hunting series feels like something Onision would write in his god awful books. The edginess, the egocentrism, the 'I'm the only one who can save you' mindset, now even questionable relationship with "saved" person, like everything checks out

    • @goldenproject1892
      @goldenproject1892 Před 5 měsíci +181

      Feels like? Bro is straight outta Stones to Abbigale at best

    • @Coopersville
      @Coopersville Před 5 měsíci +29

      Nailed it.

    • @heggy_69
      @heggy_69 Před 5 měsíci +100

      I've been saying this since the first video came out, there was always something suspect about the edgy stuff, it overshadowed the supposed pedohunting

    • @jaymeselijah
      @jaymeselijah Před 5 měsíci +39

      Exactly!!! I honestly didn’t think they were meant to be taken seriously, I thought it was all just an ARG

    • @ChatMort69420
      @ChatMort69420 Před 5 měsíci +44

      Yes!! It feels like the deranged, self-obsessed edginess of an Onision video.

  • @lurientheenjoyer6711
    @lurientheenjoyer6711 Před 4 měsíci +64

    Why tf did mamamax make his voice sound like that? He sounds like an edgelord trying to be all epic and serious, just to sound like he's swallowing the fucking mic. Can't even fathom how anyone could've gone through a whole video of that.

  • @grunkleg.3110
    @grunkleg.3110 Před 5 měsíci +120

    Watching this video a few times has got me wondering: what's the point of Max's voice modifier? Initially it seems like it's a part of the act he's putting on, like he's in danger and needs to remain anonymous out of safety. Then in that What Happened to Mamamax video, you see his face and everything, it looks like he's going mask-off, but he's _still_ got the voice mod on. I hope the point of it isn't to come off as scary, because hearing that voice supposedly come out of a real human's mouth is about as scary as when Sonic.exe bleeds hyper-realiatic blood at me while doing his Kefka laugh

    • @angellozano1938
      @angellozano1938 Před 4 měsíci +15

      He's just being an Edgy McEdgelord

    • @b0tfliez
      @b0tfliez Před 4 měsíci +12

      i think it's just because he's an insanely insecure person lmao

    • @npickle54
      @npickle54 Před 4 měsíci +5

      Is not he on record saying he's insecure about his voice lmao

    • @Iquey
      @Iquey Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@npickle54reminds me of that scene from the mean girls musical when Regina tells that boy to stop faking his voice

  • @AhegaoMachine666
    @AhegaoMachine666 Před 5 měsíci +3339

    Seeing Keemstar come onto a stream to discuss a sexual assault case was the most unserious thing I've ever fucking seen

    • @thehoodedteddy1335
      @thehoodedteddy1335 Před 5 měsíci +361

      Keemstar is human slime and never takes anything seriously, why anyone would want him to cover something serious is beyond me, but then again, Mamamax isn’t treating this stuff seriously either

    • @NomastiAfricanWarlord
      @NomastiAfricanWarlord Před 5 měsíci +134

      If there's drama, you bet your nugget that Keemstar will find himself involved somehow.

    • @AhegaoMachine666
      @AhegaoMachine666 Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@NomastiAfricanWarlord that's true

    • @kennyl4699
      @kennyl4699 Před 5 měsíci +109

      ​@@thehoodedteddy1335 MamaMax literally tried to get Sniperwolf of all people on board to fight against this alleged cult leader. Max actually thinks that a woman who has asked at least a few young teenagers to tw--rk on camera should be a visible part of his movement to take down a supposed child predator. Even if she didn't do that, most of her audience are actual children who would likely find something like this to be very jarring and not entirely understand what's going on; it would be a complete clash with her typical content. So if Max is delusional enough to think Sniperwolf is a good person to get on board, I don't see why Keemstar would be off the table.

    • @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon
      @illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon Před 5 měsíci +68

      What do you mean? Keemstar is known for his level headed takes, deep investigations and definitely not getting himself into drama for more videos.

  • @AraiiarA
    @AraiiarA Před 5 měsíci +2039

    He chose Hotline Miami, a game in which the message is violence, revenge and vigilantism only cause more violence and suffering, to promote himself as a vigilante. Really shows how smart Max actually is.

    • @sporeham1674
      @sporeham1674 Před 5 měsíci +333

      Legit, the whole message of that franchise went over his head, he just saw the blood, neon, and animal masks and decided it was cool

    • @alex_theswan8092
      @alex_theswan8092 Před 5 měsíci +167

      We can't talk bad about Hotline Miami, The Game is great, the Message of it is great, the 4th wall breaks are the best. Him trying to treat it like reality onine though, different story. The game is great though

    • @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943
      @guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Never played it🤔

    • @edoneill6138
      @edoneill6138 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Hotline Miami is really like violence is bad but I don’t remember a revenge story, the girl maybe? Last time I played it was like 3 years ago

    • @kipbop1215
      @kipbop1215 Před 5 měsíci +88

      Literally isn't man. He even wears cosplay masks from the series and was known in the fandom as a weirdo. There's a video on the victim's channel where Max literally dances with it on for 10 hours straight. Max is a deluded villain man.@@frightfactoryYT

  • @GirishManeShine
    @GirishManeShine Před 5 měsíci +50

    "I wanted to be first not the only one" says it all. He only wanted and cared about taking credit for creating the buzz once the videos went viral, not about victims or justice for them. He seems to have god complex and isn't this just vigilantism, shouldn't he be reprimanded for that?

    • @omega1231
      @omega1231 Před 4 měsíci +5

      It's fucking up a potential case, but it's not vigilantism. Vigilantism is dealing out your own justice, so to speak, with violence (intimidation might also count depending on country, region yadda yadda).
      The problem is that by making it such a big deal trying to blast it all over the internet, without going to the police (they should've been involved from the start) and you have an actual predator on your hands, they are just going to leave the country or go low profile until it dies down. It's seriously stupid and incredibly dangerous what he's doing.

  • @ObviousRises
    @ObviousRises Před měsícem +17

    I've been saying for years that predator hunting is a huge grift. These people just want fame and money.

  • @ATLsF1N3ST91
    @ATLsF1N3ST91 Před 5 měsíci +2265

    Soooo no one is going to mention the fact that an NDA can not be enforced when a crime has been committed?? It doesn't matter what NDA is signed, if it can be used in a criminal investigation, the NDA is completely void. I don't understand how or why people don't understand this, because NDAs are CIVIL documents... You can only be SUED for breaking it... Not ARRESTED. It's not a crime to break an NDA, you will be fined/sued. Anytime someone says "I wish I could show you this hard evidence of a crime, but I'm bound by an NDA" they're LYING.

    • @ANDYZMANIA
      @ANDYZMANIA Před 5 měsíci +52

      @@Upsideround this made me giggle. have a little laugh even
      thank u c:

    • @TrendK1ller
      @TrendK1ller Před 5 měsíci +91

      Goddamn finally someone said it like it is. Even I know this and I'm from Finland and our justice system works in a whole different way.

    • @olserknam
      @olserknam Před 5 měsíci +75

      That reminds me of an Ace Attorney case where a stage magician refuses to testify in court so as not to "reveal his secrets", which is, of course, silly and wouldn't fly in a real court of law. But Max seems to think that's exactly how real life works.

    • @duukn
      @duukn Před 5 měsíci +19

      NDA is not for the crime, it's for the piece of "fictitious" video that MamaMax was making, hence the stupid disclaimer in his stupid video. Since Muta is not being questioned by the police or a court room, where an NDA would mean nothing, this NDA would most likely be enforceable if he were to sign it...well in theory because if he came up with the NDA using chatGPT then i can see it being bad enough to not be enforced. You are right in your statement, just does not apply to Mutas case

    • @ATLsF1N3ST91
      @ATLsF1N3ST91 Před 5 měsíci +11

      @duukn The video itself IS evidence of a crime. You don't need to be speaking to the police, for the NDA to be voided. All you have to do, is present the video (or any evidence) and THEN go to the police at any point in time with the video (or any evidence of a crime) and the pending lawsuit will be stayed, pending the outcome.

  • @Jen_Bozo
    @Jen_Bozo Před 5 měsíci +1320

    Someone has pointed out how he stopped the whole "dramatic" editing in a video where he was called out by his exes. So weird how Max is able to be "serious" in a moment where its about him but not about the victims he talks about. It just proved how much of an ego maniac he is.

    • @JumptheTrench
      @JumptheTrench Před 5 měsíci +88

      Exactly, his editing is so cancerous too christ

    • @AnarchoCatBoyEthan
      @AnarchoCatBoyEthan Před 5 měsíci +51

      Oh god that’s a good point. How depressing.

    • @redreaper3065
      @redreaper3065 Před 5 měsíci +13

      I mean the dude (in my opinion) changed his name so that any criminal record/police records wouldn't pop up when you searched his name.

    • @cybercat360_
      @cybercat360_ Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@redreaper3065 that could be a possibility, but in that case you'd likely find statements about him from his victims using his old name. nobody has found anything like that (yet).

    • @redreaper3065
      @redreaper3065 Před 5 měsíci +21

      @@cybercat360_ there was a police report from his one ex that she filed for stalking or something along those lines.
      It seems to be the only accusation that holds water, since Max admitted he did creepy stuff towards his ex.

  • @natelastname5472
    @natelastname5472 Před 5 měsíci +35

    “stop with the theatrics”
    amen. the over the top deep voice was just pure cringe and gave virgin with rage vibes. it did not add anything to the video
    and with topics like these it’s almost disrespectful to the victims

  • @JOVIJOLEE
    @JOVIJOLEE Před 5 měsíci +41

    I can’t do that voice, I’m sorry. I don’t want to hear that while I’m learning about something serious, and I’m trying not to ffwd thru those parts.

    • @dagda1180
      @dagda1180 Před 3 měsíci +8

      Me too, man. It's 'discord mod to kitten' tier of uncomfortable.

  • @doctorgears9358
    @doctorgears9358 Před 5 měsíci +250

    “no pressure”
    while also simultaneously spamming you and trying to guilt you. truly a hero

  • @natemarx4999
    @natemarx4999 Před 5 měsíci +7905

    The moment Mutah considers you an ex-friend, you are going down badly.

    • @cammyman32
      @cammyman32 Před 5 měsíci +256

      I agree! I remember when he was on the SomeOrdinaryPodcast and the guys were still somewhat supportive of him in future podcast videos. I hope Nux and Caleb have heard about this too.

    • @CorpusCacus
      @CorpusCacus Před 5 měsíci +209

      Friendship ended with Mutahar.

    • @LambentV
      @LambentV Před 5 měsíci +302

      Max exploited the friendship for clout and credibility, I’m glad Muta finally burned the bridge.

    • @TalkinKush
      @TalkinKush Před 5 měsíci +45

      This comment doesn’t make Mutah look good like you think it does 😂😂

    • @raybp7512
      @raybp7512 Před 5 měsíci +26

      Stop glazing

  • @Knightmare91
    @Knightmare91 Před 4 měsíci +28

    I tried looking up anything about Spencer being missing in her area of Texas all that comes up is the poster and a bunch of reddit posts talking about not finding anything.

  • @andrewthomasprism9388
    @andrewthomasprism9388 Před 5 měsíci +27

    1:07:40 Ah yes, the tried and true method of, "If I just get really fucking loud I'll win." Also can we just point out that Mutahar brought his fist down in that last Discord Call at the end? That is the scariest shit. Mutahar is a really goofy and really fun guy, so for him to be angry is so alien to me it's scary.

  • @7thTreasure
    @7thTreasure Před 5 měsíci +1627

    Ok, the "ChatGPT understands the legal system" completely knocked me out for a few minutes laughing in bewilderment that someone could actually say this with conviction, and not as a joke

    • @GodsDissapointment
      @GodsDissapointment Před 5 měsíci +64

      I genuinely think that was the first time that a sentence made my eye twitch in the weirdest mix of anger and pure bewilderment.

    • @rnpee
      @rnpee Před 5 měsíci +84

      It's so funny because, I keep thinking about the case where an actual Lawyer got in HUGE trouble for using ChatGPT when researching a case

    • @oldreaddy3341
      @oldreaddy3341 Před 4 měsíci

      Famously.

    • @jordanl5444
      @jordanl5444 Před 4 měsíci +41

      "Is 450 90% of 500
      No, 450 is not 90% of 500. To find 90% of 500,
      you can multiply 500 by 0.9, which gives you
      450. Wait, actually, yes, 450 is 90% of 500. My
      apologies for the confusion."
      My favorite chatgpt quote lmao

    • @nostromza3433
      @nostromza3433 Před 4 měsíci +4

      @@jordanl5444 DAS YOUR NEW GOD DOOD, GET ON YOUR KNEES AND RESPECT YOUR NEW OVERLORD IT'S DA FURE!!!!!! NO HERETICAL WRITINGS AGAINST CHATGPT AND ML ALLOWED

  • @ImMadds
    @ImMadds Před 5 měsíci +1919

    Max sitting on Spencer’s story for 3 years is crazy. Asking others to put their livelihood and careers on the line without any hard evidence is even crazier.

    • @Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl
      @Nicholasmcmath-cr1xl Před 5 měsíci +8

      Same

    • @LeeLee1985Official
      @LeeLee1985Official Před 5 měsíci +1

      Spencer Missing Person flyer is circulating Facebook now because a missing person group posted it years ago and now ppl found it, they are trying to contact her family because they think her family is still looking for her. They are in the comments trying to Tag her relatives saying she lives with mama max now

    • @FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange
      @FuckTheYoutubeUsernameChange Před 5 měsíci +30

      I feel really bad for her and the other survivors.

    • @GrayFox_74
      @GrayFox_74 Před 5 měsíci +9

      Bro wants to straw man the argument but he’s trying to force people who are smart enough to not go in blindly.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​​​@@FuckTheCZcamsUsernameChangeAt this point I'm not sure they're "survivors" at all. I don't think Mutahar mentioned it but Max and Spencer have known each other since she was in kindergarten with his sister. What are the odds that a "pedophile hunter" would just happen to know someone who was the victim of a sensational werewolf/vampire pedophile cult? We already know he'll make thing up.

  • @TuShan18
    @TuShan18 Před 5 měsíci +19

    After threatening to sue Mutahar for defamation, his channel and all his videos have been privated. He put a torch to everything. Make of this what you will, but it looks like it’s all over for Max.
    All I can do now is hope that if there are any victims of this Camden character, they see some actual justice, and find peace in what has happened to them. They deserve so much better than this.

  • @sakuyaizayoi1945
    @sakuyaizayoi1945 Před 4 měsíci +16

    1:05:37 Holy shit, him pulling up a ChatGPT answer is comedic gold. The cherry on top of the shitpile. He honestly just entered his questioned, saw the answer and went; "Got him"
    Actual rebranding to Mamamoron

  • @TheDoctorMD
    @TheDoctorMD Před 5 měsíci +1735

    Appreciate Muta's restraint when Max said "ChatGPT understands the legal system."

    • @MavvodoHall
      @MavvodoHall Před 5 měsíci +143

      I feel he's trying to save himself a fucking stroke

    • @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63
      @classarank7youtubeherokeyb63 Před 5 měsíci +41

      I kinda got lost in the timeline. Did that call happen after the lawyers got blasted for citing cases from chatgpt? Because if so, that really is the greatest take.

    • @SaintShion
      @SaintShion Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@classarank7youtubeherokeyb63Zachariah Crabill; lawyer who was fired after he used ChatGPT at work cause it was making up fake lawsuits. But sure, Ig chatGPTs got the law system figured out

    • @andrewthomasprism9388
      @andrewthomasprism9388 Před 5 měsíci +16

      Bro he brought his fist down and my heart skipped a beat. Mans was getting angry at Max.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Před 5 měsíci

      FUN FACT: there are several instances of lawyers citing fake cases given to them by chatgpt and losing their own case because of it. _Several._

  • @chrisk5985
    @chrisk5985 Před 5 měsíci +1204

    I'm so sick of people using children and the protection of children as a grift. They know it's a cause everyone can get behind, and they manipulate that in order to gain money, attention, and power. It's disgusting. It trivializes these issues, which is incredibly dangerous.

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Using kids to emotionally stir everyone up (when it’s unwarranted) is like the oldest trick in the book, I don’t know how people are still falling for it. What’s even more sad is how grifters like Mamamax not only uses kids as a shield from criticisms, he actively weaponizes this against other, either critics of him or innocent people like Camden’s family, leaving so much more damage in its wake. Magnatar got called a PDFile and Max’s audience contacted his workplace over this false allegations, and he called Tommy one as well, and having his rabid fanbase telling Tommy, a literal CSA victim, that he deserved what happened to him as a kid. Like the amount of damage he’s caused behind the veil of “I’m doing it for the kids” is astounding and he has basically nothing to show for.

    • @dontkickmychick6076
      @dontkickmychick6076 Před 5 měsíci +97

      ​@@chanr9531THINK OF THE CHILDREN *blows up homeless shelter because one of the residents dated a 17.9 yo when he was 18*

    • @rustydowd879
      @rustydowd879 Před 5 měsíci +6

      If they actually do protect kids, it's a valuable service and I don't mind the begging. I don't know what on this max character was actually doing though.

    • @gnarwhal7562
      @gnarwhal7562 Před 5 měsíci

      It's the same as the MeTooMovement and radical Trans activists undoing years of progress for feminists and the LGBT community

    • @youngveggies6558
      @youngveggies6558 Před 5 měsíci +35

      @@rustydowd879He was mainly just stalking some girl and carving her name on himself. You know, protecting the children.

  • @MaliciousCat
    @MaliciousCat Před 4 měsíci +11

    'Grrr! My Name is MAX... I use a deep voice synth to make me sound SCAARY and Intimidating! Ggrrr deep bear voice!' LOL!

  • @petrolhead0387
    @petrolhead0387 Před 5 měsíci +18

    His channel is now hidden when you search for it. You can still find it if you search for a specific video, but it looks like he's slipping away from view.

    • @magsbitch
      @magsbitch Před 5 měsíci +5

      he’s deleting all these videos too 😭😭 check his channel they are already gone

    • @chocoliatte9385
      @chocoliatte9385 Před měsícem

      Readily appears on Google though 😂

  • @Elesthor
    @Elesthor Před 5 měsíci +3031

    How people ever took this guy seriously while doing his silly voice is a real mystery to me.

    • @lambertstarr1218
      @lambertstarr1218 Před 5 měsíci +420

      From doing edgelord henti reviews to incel woe is me cringe videos to making silly videos about catching predtaors, this guy’s whole career on youtube is a joke

    • @0palOpal0pal
      @0palOpal0pal Před 5 měsíci +235

      I found him by his Kanye Quest video, and I remember really liking that and subscribing. But after I saw him doing the creepyvoice over real issues and handling them like spooky campfire stories, I unsubbed. There's a time and place for sure. When it was just about video games, I thought it was kinda funny and a fitting voice for the type of content it was, since a creepy easter egg in an RPGmaker horror game is already not that scary, but I felt such genuine ick when I saw him try to cover real situations in the same way.

    • @frittata3891
      @frittata3891 Před 5 měsíci +208

      he pitch shifts his voice down, scoops EQ and adds reverb. bro just oozes cringe theater kid vibes

    • @corbeaudejugement
      @corbeaudejugement Před 5 měsíci +65

      his fanbase is rabid and will witchunt anyone who criticizes him

    • @kendogyaboi6257
      @kendogyaboi6257 Před 5 měsíci +103

      I never heard of him before this video but the second mutahar pulled up his video with his voice changer I was like “is this a joke to this guy” and an hour later I can confidently say, yes. It is a joke to this guy.

  • @zackinator1439
    @zackinator1439 Před 5 měsíci +1503

    Max is literally the deepest case of main character syndrome I've ever seen. He treats his entire online presence as a show on a stage and he's the noble amazing loveable hero. I thought it was just him playing a character, but it appears not I guess. Same with how some details of his videos were obviously fake which I just thought was the entertainment part of the part entertainment part serious, literally pulling the "so then I called up my darkweb hacker to trace his ip address", but I guess it was all fake

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +132

      Add saviour complex and persecution complex in there as well. Even with his latest “apology” video, I feel like he still sees himself as the good guy hero and everyone else just doesn’t understand him and he’s being persecuted for trying to do the right thing.

    • @WheezingCheetah
      @WheezingCheetah Před 5 měsíci +77

      @@BobDevVyeah this hero complex vigilante bullshit is entirely out of control.

    • @D4WADE
      @D4WADE Před 5 měsíci +38

      Diet coke version of Light Yagami

    • @theunknown7441
      @theunknown7441 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@D4WADE nah if there's something below that , it's that guy

    • @laurelalloro
      @laurelalloro Před 5 měsíci +34

      I've lately been noticing a recurring theme in assuming people are playing a "narcissist" character only to later realize they actually were.

  • @gamerhex7335
    @gamerhex7335 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Max sounds like an actual cult leader. He has such a savior complex. And with how he talks, I wouldn't be surprised if HE was himself a predator.

  • @kkuudandere
    @kkuudandere Před 5 měsíci +22

    I hate to be That Person because it's so easy to say this after the fact but... I'm so glad everybody is on this guy's throat lmao. I watched one video of his years ago, and while I could appreciate someone covering the topic, the dramatics were too much for me. It's like he just loves hearing himself talk. Couldn't finish another one lol

  • @Revenant-oq9ts
    @Revenant-oq9ts Před 5 měsíci +763

    Remember when Max's exes tried to go after him? His response was zero theatrics and he did a straight and uncensored talk about the situation. Far cry from how he treated this situation. Extremely disrespectful.

    • @ramibee
      @ramibee Před 5 měsíci +126

      So true!! It's always theatrics until it's about him, the "important guy".

    • @navb0tactual
      @navb0tactual Před 5 měsíci +54

      ethics for me but not for thee

    • @ashedaces
      @ashedaces Před 5 měsíci +4

      forgot about that, great point

    • @jasonvargas7564
      @jasonvargas7564 Před 5 měsíci +11

      MolesterMax

    • @jacek45
      @jacek45 Před 5 měsíci

      im starting to believe his exes were on to something, they provided more evidence then he did here

  • @calamaria9221
    @calamaria9221 Před 5 měsíci +2013

    I still can't believe Max said "Why is it my job?" "Why are you putting it all on me?" Like he wasn't the one that was breaking the case to the public (poorly), put together an evidence server with all of the "victims", has all of the evidence (if there is any), moved one of the "victims" to his house and put her in charge of the money, and has been livestreaming and making videos about it.

    • @Guitartabstoday
      @Guitartabstoday Před 5 měsíci +163

      and gatekeeper “the evidence” like making others sign a NDA
      nda isn’t enforceable anyway in this case, but max gets his legal advice from chatgbt so ofc he doesn’t know that

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil Před 5 měsíci +67

      @@Guitartabstoday Exactly. Him wanting to own the evidence to make his documentary shows what his motives are.
      Enforceable or not, his intentions are pretty clear.

    • @hubguy
      @hubguy Před 5 měsíci +19

      Then his "accountability" video afterwards being treated like he had to be the one to take the case instead of going to an investigator? Really comes off like he's going all "hey look at me and all that I'm suffering through" but on the other side of his mouth begging everyone else to do the work with/for him

    • @XainArchives
      @XainArchives Před 5 měsíci +1

      The evidence is years old, this isn't new.

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil Před 5 měsíci +7

      @@XainArchives What evidence?
      What has been out there for years that everyone missed?

  • @Footwater
    @Footwater Před 5 měsíci +27

    the way max goes about his "research" is the same way i would go about my school work. not trying, not understanding, just put it in and hope for the best.

  • @Slitherliten
    @Slitherliten Před 5 měsíci +9

    I had to physically pause the video when he pulled up that chatgbt screenshot 😭

  • @chanr9531
    @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +501

    Mamamax is the perfect textbook example of someone with main character syndrome and a saviour complex. So deluded in his own head of how much of a hero he is he inevitably imploded his own career.

  • @uthmanibn-jafar1159
    @uthmanibn-jafar1159 Před měsícem +5

    Woahh... is that seriously him repeatedly racking the slide on a handgun??? 1:14:09 I'd recognize the sound anywhere. It produces a VERY distinct sound... and I'm about 99% sure that's exactly what we're hearing in this video. I listened to it multiple times.

  • @COctagons
    @COctagons Před 5 měsíci +11

    Once upon a time I liked this guy's videos. Thought his edgy bit with staged gore and ***SCARY DARTH VADER VOICE*** were somewhere between an anonymity thing and a bit of catharsis for those of us that would actually mulch one of these creeps if we could get away with it, but after he switched from baiting to "reporting," and didn't drop the bit, he started coming across as either egomaniacal, naive, or actually out of touch with reality.
    I continued following him after he returned from hiatus to see if that crazy video was actually setting-up for a punchline, but it turned out the only joke was him.
    I'm interested in what the FBI are watching him for, though. If you're a certain kind of villain, there really is no better way to hide in plain sight than to dress-up as one that hunts them.

  • @zucumberzeez
    @zucumberzeez Před 5 měsíci +630

    I unsubscribed from MamaMax after he rebranded his channel to GODCULT because I was tired of him calling out innocent creators and he just became cringe, but I didn't know the rabbit hole got this deep. It's very unfortunate seeing another creator I used to enjoy utterly ruin their career.
    Edit: I realize now that he's always been cringe, but I ignored that when I was still subbed to him.

    • @pentexsucks43
      @pentexsucks43 Před 5 měsíci +131

      "became cringe?"
      His hotline Miami larping and pitch shifted voice wasn't already???

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +80

      @@pentexsucks43 yeah, this is what I’m not getting with so many people claiming he’s only cringe recently. He’s always been cringe, even in his early pre-predator catcher days (though he seemed more grounded and maybe a little more tongue in cheeks about his cringe back then). And when he started making his predator catcher content, his edgy pretentious content with him larping as batman using the voice changer calling his audience his “children”, if you didn’t think that was full on cringe, then I assume you’re just really young because one can reasonably see a kid finding this cool or captivating, but if you’re an adult, there’s no way you don’t find that shit cringe.

    • @zucumberzeez
      @zucumberzeez Před 5 měsíci +36

      ​@@pentexsucks43In hindsight, he was always cringe, but his editing and story telling was what I used to enjoy about his content. Eventually the cringe became too hard to ignore, though.

    • @zucumberzeez
      @zucumberzeez Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@chanr9531I realize that he's always been cringe now. I explained myself in my other reply.

    • @JadedBelle
      @JadedBelle Před 5 měsíci +18

      ​@@zucumberzeezDude, I agree with you. He also came across in the older days as eccentric and empathetic. Yeah, it's been over for a while now, eh?

  • @That_Guy__630
    @That_Guy__630 Před 5 měsíci +310

    Ain’t no way he consulted ChatGPT for legal advice. This has to be the most elaborate joke, right? There’s no way he wants us take this seriously. Max has truly baffled me with that.

    • @error-try-again-later
      @error-try-again-later Před 5 měsíci +13

      Apparently he's now going on about "the singularity" when it comes to AI?? I genuinely think he's having some kind of episode.

    • @kaibird542
      @kaibird542 Před 5 měsíci +27

      “AI is awful and will destroy humanity!!”
      *consults ChatGPT about legal definitions*

    • @That_Guy__630
      @That_Guy__630 Před 5 měsíci +23

      If Max does sue Muta. I can only imagine Max walking into the courthouse with a laptop open and ChatGPT on the screen. “Your honor, meet my lawyer.”

  • @TheAdrift
    @TheAdrift Před 5 měsíci +7

    I feel weirdly proud of myself for seeing Mamamax’s video pop up on my Recommended back when it had the “greatest cancellation of all time” title, I looked at that title and thought “ehh, that’s probably clickbait. I’ma skip that one.”
    It came back up a few more times, and each time I thought to myself “hmm, is my suspicion about this an example of me being media-savvy, or is it my bias talking because I like penguinz0?” Then this video came out and I had my answer 😅 Thanks to you and Nick for making the world a less click-baited place.

  • @technicallymetal6775
    @technicallymetal6775 Před 4 měsíci +8

    Coming back to this video after two weeks and a shit ton of videos later, I'm reminded of a pastor that i knew that said "if you want to know what sin a preacher is guilty of, find the one they preach hardest against". Im not saying that Max is a pedophile cult leader, but he does have a pretty intense crusade against them and employs a lot of the tactics he talks about

  • @SummikkiTanuki_s
    @SummikkiTanuki_s Před 5 měsíci +1813

    I always found people who claim themselves as "PDFile hunters" and then have a patreon for UNCENSORED content of the case absolutely sketchy.

    • @HeatherHolt
      @HeatherHolt Před 5 měsíci +122

      Ew, what.
      Idk why I’m surprised someone would do this. But I am.

    • @porkyonfroy8338
      @porkyonfroy8338 Před 5 měsíci +36

      Other than predator poachers. Their work at least leads to arrests more often than not

    • @DaemonJerky
      @DaemonJerky Před 5 měsíci +245

      ​@@porkyonfroy8338 charges almost never go through for any of these virtue signaling weirdos. Doing this for entertainment is literally always irresponsible

    • @hanksyflamework
      @hanksyflamework Před 5 měsíci +57

      @@DaemonJerky totally agree. any decent human wouldn't even take this content to an online public space. this guy is clout chasing nothing more at this point and that voice changer approach to address a comment feed is just cringe, he needs to get help from mental health professionals.

    • @noahboat580
      @noahboat580 Před 5 měsíci

      The only people that i pay to see this kind of thing early is DAP (dads against predators), and they were even on VICE exposing the growing pedophilia problem. People can say its sketch but there's no alternative to really expose these monsters besides directly and with cameras, and not alone too. One of DAPs guys got shot, a veteran might i add, and this man nicknamed Boopac got murdered exposing one on his own. Its a problem that should become more relevant, but not in a 😾 vaneer that mamamax conjured-up. 'More of a 'DAP's gonna find you' kind of way

  • @lepidodendr0n
    @lepidodendr0n Před 5 měsíci +3713

    as a csa victim who used to support him, this situation hurts. i always assumed his content was just a little overdramatized for awareness and viewer retention, not completely made up.

    • @culturebreath369
      @culturebreath369 Před 5 měsíci +241

      Same. I started feeling off about it after awhile but never expected all this.

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +331

      This is why you shouldn’t present such serious topics in these ARG style and just be normal with it. I don’t know how so many people overlooked Mamamax’s presentation style of such a sensitive topic for so long

    • @gimpinainteasy
      @gimpinainteasy Před 5 měsíci +44

      I even subbed to his Patreon…

    • @nickh4354
      @nickh4354 Před 5 měsíci +101

      I had always looked at him as a really motivated person to put eyes on harming children and the struggles that some kids go through... then some recent weird streams and videos made me question how much all of this has to do with the actual problems, and how much is just put on for show

    • @DexxusAndres
      @DexxusAndres Před 5 měsíci +7

      Same to all of it, it sucks

  • @Legomaster-jv8ll
    @Legomaster-jv8ll Před 3 měsíci +4

    I know I’m late but, here’s what pisses me off the most. From investigation to the final verdict, you cannot screw anything up.
    Like you said, The instant you go public, you’re on a timer. They can destroy evidence, fabricate alibi, and think about counter-arguments. And if they do, now you have potentially less evidence to work with.
    Evidence can be thrown out due to technicalities. If it was obtained illegally, or might’ve been handled improperly, you could easily have it be dismissed and inadmissible.
    Convincing the jury isn’t going to be a cakewalk either. You’ll need to convince them that the events happened, and the moment you bring up that it involved a werewolf cult, you’re probably already losing the jury.
    All of this is important to get right the first time. Think of the quote “if you come for the king, you beat not miss”. Because if you fail to convince all 12 jury members, then that’s it. They escaped justice. You don’t get a redo. The victims will never get justice for their experiences. Even if they eventually get arrested for future charges, it could’ve been stopped.
    Even if they get convicted of 3 criminal counts, it could’ve been 4. It’s not, potentially because of how Max handled it. That’s what pisses me off. If max genuinely cared, then go to the freaking police.

  • @sophieriopel3793
    @sophieriopel3793 Před 4 měsíci +7

    The voice modulator is SO INCREDIBLY CRINGE I cannot deal

    • @smokingalcohol2945
      @smokingalcohol2945 Před 3 měsíci +4

      Even crazier is he's said thats his real natural voice before. I've been watching vids about this whole situation his voice makes it all so hard to watch i feel bad for anybody who has to listen to that shit

  • @stevencurtis7157
    @stevencurtis7157 Před 5 měsíci +558

    When Max framed it as _"if you don't agree you're probably a predator"_ it was a big red flag, but I dismissed it as his weird theatrics.

    • @daneelaart
      @daneelaart Před 5 měsíci +21

      i did too, i thought this was leading up to some reveal, but that never happened

    • @antonydrossos5719
      @antonydrossos5719 Před 5 měsíci +32

      That kind of speech is simple bullying and virtue signalling

    • @nman551
      @nman551 Před 5 měsíci +8

      Yeah when I saw that I was like “nope I don’t trust this guy.”

    • @flamedramon68
      @flamedramon68 Před 5 měsíci +21

      Don't forget how he threw a pity party when people asked for evidence and he was like "I can't believe you guys would ask for proof, people don't listen to victims anymore" like???

    • @GodsLoveIsHatred
      @GodsLoveIsHatred Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@antonydrossos5719Bullying maybe. But I don’t know if it’s virtue signaling.

  • @theblob4741
    @theblob4741 Před 5 měsíci +842

    What’s crazy is the “I didn’t want to do this alone,” “why do I have to do this? Why me?” WHEN HE’S THE ONE WHO STARTED THIS SHIT AND WANTED TO DO IT ON HIS OWN. Absolutely wild and unbelievable.

    • @pinkpaperheart
      @pinkpaperheart Před 5 měsíci +76

      That's why he wanted a high-profile ytuber to join in his delusional witch-hunt. That way he can loudly proclaim that 'he' was the one who brought the case to light.

    • @pinkpaperheart
      @pinkpaperheart Před 5 měsíci +64

      @jermy874 to palm it off someone else. He's just a lazy person with low-motivation. Averaging 2 vids/year uploads, I didn't know splicing artsy/edgy clips makes someone a filmmaker. What a joke.

    • @R_S747
      @R_S747 Před 5 měsíci +16

      He thinks he's the chosen protagonist of a movie

    • @ona512
      @ona512 Před 5 měsíci +15

      That voice filter goes to his head

    • @PotawatomiThunderNew
      @PotawatomiThunderNew Před 5 měsíci +12

      Yeah out of everything he said, him asking why it’s his job to get the story out is what left me absolutely dumbfounded. I just cannot believe he actually said that. Why is it your story, Max? BECAUSE YOU’RE THE ONE BREAKING THE STORY! Max is the bringing this story to the forefront and shedding light on it. He’s the one supposedly talking to the victims, he is the one supplying the information here. He made the choice to take on the story as his project. For him to ask why it’s his job has to be one of the most incompetent things he has said throughout this.
      And then for him to try to brush off that responsibility and say he’s only the first one to talk about it but doesn’t want to be the only one to talk about it… dude… you are the one talking to the victims, you are the one pushing this story, and you’re not giving any information. Besides Spencer’s account of what happened with her, there is no information about any of this for people to work with, and that’s because you didn’t give any. Now it all makes sense to me. Because before this whole shit show, I felt like I was waiting for the ball to drop or something. Max put out the first video about it, and when I watched it, I came out feeling like that wasn’t the story, but just a precursor to it. It felt more like a teaser trailer. He identified Camden and made the claims but didn’t actually give information about what happened. I came out of it feeling like it didn’t really “begin” yet. Now I know it’s because Max himself didn’t even know any information. He really made 3 whole videos about it without even fully knowing the ins and outs of the story himself.

  • @otakuamerican5190
    @otakuamerican5190 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I think it’s honestly the voice filter and it being just him talking into the mic is what really makes this situation so fucking weird. Like that’s a filter you use for a png CZcamsr or something

    • @dagda1180
      @dagda1180 Před 3 měsíci

      It's like a very specific ASMR vibe or a 2010 retelling of a creepypasta. For someone of my age, it just seems incredibly poor.

  • @Juwlz
    @Juwlz Před 3 měsíci +4

    So, I remember seeing a video or two of this and immediately thought "Oh, he's Jaystation but instead of 3am ghosts, it's pedophiles?" And then immediately exited 😂

  • @nat2501
    @nat2501 Před 5 měsíci +1453

    It’s funny how Max sees himself as a cult destroyer when in the process he’s created a cult-like environment himself. He’s made these victims feel like he’s their saviour from their previous traumas, and uses them to make content. Then he tries to intensely recruit people for his cause. He’s using the exact “charismatic leader” tactics he claims to be against and has surrounded himself with vulnerable women that he now has power over because he quite literally won’t leave the case in the hands of the police

    • @gangstarock2455
      @gangstarock2455 Před 5 měsíci +88

      I mean he literally changed his CZcams name to GodCult once lol The guy is crazy

    • @weedle4521
      @weedle4521 Před 5 měsíci +88

      Surviving a cult and having severe trauma but the guy who’s trying to help you renamed his channel “godcult” and is recruiting people?!?!?

    • @cookie5535
      @cookie5535 Před 5 měsíci

      what "victims"? There are no victims, just crazy accusations and zero evidence. You insane?

    • @thantrus
      @thantrus Před 5 měsíci +30

      Takes a cult leader to oust a cult leader i suppose.

    • @Brandon-vd7er
      @Brandon-vd7er Před 4 měsíci

      I don't think you are understanding.. there are no victims here.. These people are all fake

  • @jewellier
    @jewellier Před 5 měsíci +1778

    What a nice time to be on CZcams. People quit either because they're exhausted or because they are being exposed as a massive fraud

    • @AnotherOrdinaryGamer
      @AnotherOrdinaryGamer Před 5 měsíci +58

      having just come out of a rewatch of matpat's goodbye video this especially rings true to me rn

    • @AgsmaJustAgsma
      @AgsmaJustAgsma Před 5 měsíci +150

      Either you die a hero, or live long enough to commission a 50K softcore fantasy animation.

    • @gabrielchin4161
      @gabrielchin4161 Před 5 měsíci +65

      ​@@AgsmaJustAgsmathank you for reminding us of the third option

    • @Azazantei
      @Azazantei Před 5 měsíci +7

      ​@@AgsmaJustAgsmaNah man 💀

    • @softback132
      @softback132 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@AgsmaJustAgsma lol

  • @ReinKayomi
    @ReinKayomi Před 5 měsíci +71

    People calling pedos as "PDF Files" is the most Reddit shit ever

    • @omega1231
      @omega1231 Před 4 měsíci +10

      I don't get it, is it because "pedophile" is a banned word or just because, I mean, I've never been on reddit lol

    • @kennyl4699
      @kennyl4699 Před 4 měsíci

      @@omega1231 CZcams has been to known to demonetize videos with the words "evil" or "kiss" in the title, so I don't see why not for a video with "pedophile" in the title.

    • @AgentXaos
      @AgentXaos Před 4 měsíci +36

      it's specifically a youtube thing - they have to say it to get around demonetization. No one cares what you say on Reddit.

    • @aaaaaaaa-gu1md
      @aaaaaaaa-gu1md Před 3 měsíci +7

      i thought it was because you can get demonetized or your comments would get deleted

    • @ReiAnikaAyanami
      @ReiAnikaAyanami Před 3 měsíci +5

      it's really, really annoying to have to censor yourself this way when talking about serious topics, but yt wants this to be a ~child friendly space~ so bad words like that are a big no-no. i love being treated like and having to treat others as though we're all little babies.

  • @vulgartech9192
    @vulgartech9192 Před 5 měsíci +7

    This is like a cop forgetting his single greatest collar; forgetting who the witnesses are, where it took place, etc. Dirty cops have that problem routinely, selective amnesia.

  • @asmodeus673
    @asmodeus673 Před 5 měsíci +3122

    i hate that he gained a following of SA survivors and took advantage of their trust to witch hunt innocent people in the cases he (horribly) covers.

    • @gimpinainteasy
      @gimpinainteasy Před 5 měsíci +241

      Me being one of them. This has broken my heart. He wanted fame more than helping people. When he did his expose on defending himself. Is about when I started to see the cracks in his mentality.

    • @cammyman32
      @cammyman32 Před 5 měsíci +49

      @@gimpinainteasyI’m so sorry that you had to deal with that.

    • @dylanlloyd4483
      @dylanlloyd4483 Před 5 měsíci +51

      I hate that the only reason it was possible is people like Muta and Nexpo glazing him while not even watching the vids lol.

    • @kelcieb.498
      @kelcieb.498 Před 5 měsíci +62

      I totally forgot Nexpo was involved in helping Max gain a following! I wonder if he will speak on this or distance himself from Max... if not, it shows his true character.

    • @chanr9531
      @chanr9531 Před 5 měsíci +101

      His actions with his audience is giving me huge cult vibes with the way he takes vulnerable young people who suffered SA and weaponizes their trauma and emotions to do his bidding and to financially support him. Also him calling his audience his “children” in that larping batman voice was not only giga cringe but also creepy and throws up like 20 red flags.

  • @Babyclownn
    @Babyclownn Před 5 měsíci +1918

    I can’t stress how much those predator hunter channels harm investigations. Not only do they walk, but now they are way more cautious. They are basically a trial run for these guys.

    • @misnmer9224
      @misnmer9224 Před 5 měsíci +93

      Maybe the real issue is predator lawmakers making it so complicated

    • @italienn
      @italienn Před 5 měsíci +30

      I disagree. Plus its great when they off themselves from shame.

    • @TravisJS399
      @TravisJS399 Před 5 měsíci +236

      There's a reason being a vigilante is illegal because when you don't know what the fuck you're doing it's all for naught.

    • @Pateramalina
      @Pateramalina Před 5 měsíci +21

      on the other hand .. what investigations

    • @misnmer9224
      @misnmer9224 Před 5 měsíci +38

      @TravisJS399 you could quite literally offer screen recordings of a predator talking to a very convincing minor decoy, and it will be deemed "inadmissible" due to it merely being a third party from law.

  • @Shamman_komanch
    @Shamman_komanch Před 4 měsíci +10

    It's so hard to take him seriously with that horrendous voiceover, and ARG bullshit. And its downright disgusting considering the subject.

    • @dagda1180
      @dagda1180 Před 3 měsíci +1

      Exaactly! His regular voice is more than enough.

  • @redaffix7320
    @redaffix7320 Před 5 měsíci +21

    Ironic that he bashes AI, then used ChatGPT to try to placate to someone asking if he talked to a lawyer for legal advice. Dude is unbelievably stupid, whether he's telling the truth about the cult and Spencer or he isn't.
    Edit: "he" being Max, of course.

  • @JenericJ_12
    @JenericJ_12 Před 5 měsíci +536

    I think the best way to describe how important this was to Max is to ask him the question "if this did indeed go to court and you had to testify on the witnesses behalf would you ask the judge if you could testify with a voice changer?"

    • @na-vn5qy
      @na-vn5qy Před 5 měsíci +99

      'no? well then can i at least have a schizophrenic powerpoint presentation playing behind me?'

    • @error-try-again-later
      @error-try-again-later Před 5 měsíci +18

      LMAO

    • @jasonvargas7564
      @jasonvargas7564 Před 5 měsíci +18

      “At least let me put up a board that says ‘disclaimer for legal reasons: everything I am about to say is a lie. Please take this as a work of fiction. Any names and incidences that align with actual people and events are coincidental. Enjoy’ but I want people to still know that when I’m not doing my edgy cringe voice, it’s fake and when I am doing the edgy cringe voice, it’s real, except when it’s not real which you’ll be able to tell because of the cringe theatrics which name actual criminals, so you’re going to have to ignore the disclaimer about names being fictional, except when it is fictional when it comes to the cringe theatrics because entertainment and such”

    • @zombieasskicker1307
      @zombieasskicker1307 Před 5 měsíci

      ​@@jasonvargas7564what a read, lmao

  • @organpool
    @organpool Před 5 měsíci +786

    Max is the type of guy to think he’s a vigilante and frame himself as a hero, when really he is nothing but a power hungry, virtu-signaling individual.

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 Před 5 měsíci +34

      money.
      it's about money.

    • @rapu4
      @rapu4 Před 5 měsíci +15

      ​@@lasskinn474isn't it always

    • @lasskinn474
      @lasskinn474 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@rapu4 well not always there's tons of small 'activist' type of channels where the endgame isn't really money, rather it's raising awareness of some scam or scammer for moral reasons and/or because it's just an interesting subject and/or because(more rarely) the scam/scammer are just really, really really funny.

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Spare me from influencers, CZcamsrs, streamers, online content creators with an overinflated sense of their own self-importance. LARPing maroons.

    • @FzLPxL
      @FzLPxL Před 5 měsíci +8

      he tries soo hard to look cool with his "style" of editing and the cringe voice he's doin😂 even in his apology video where he is supposed to be real and honest, he still come across like a theater kid acting his sad puppy face. a performative narcissist

  • @AbaratFox
    @AbaratFox Před 5 měsíci +14

    this was a great and informative video. The only critique I have would be to suggest adding subtitles to the discord calls because it was difficult to track who was saying what with so much crosstalk

  • @ochuspin
    @ochuspin Před 5 měsíci +7

    mamamax talks into the mic in such a way that i feel like he's breathing down my neck

  • @zachdrozs2938
    @zachdrozs2938 Před 5 měsíci +2063

    That series of outbursts around 1:13:00 was the icing on the cake for how he operates.
    - Yells at Muta for not blindly supporting him
    - Yells more about how he didnt want to be the one to finish what he started
    - Got a victim to try and guilt Muta into investigating
    - refuses to understand the burden of evidence falls to him and what he has isnt evidence and would be about as secure as a tissue house in a F5 Tornado

    • @user-xc9fj6vz9v
      @user-xc9fj6vz9v Před 5 měsíci +201

      "But ChatGPT said that what Spencer and co say is al the evidence they need to convict".
      He is not living in the real world, and that emotionelle blackmail he tried on Mutahar in the call is so so nasty, so glad Nick heard that and called Max out, like wtf, both Spencer and Max is bad ppl, they use that emotionelle shield as blackmail all the time.

    • @infinitecurlie
      @infinitecurlie Před 5 měsíci +9

      This!

    • @leebug3424
      @leebug3424 Před 5 měsíci +149

      That whole call was embarrassing. He used Spencer like an attack dog.

    • @o.o1858
      @o.o1858 Před 5 měsíci +88

      his only criticism of others and his only defense of criticisms of him are "wHat aBoUt tHe cHildRen"

    • @henryvlubaiv8628
      @henryvlubaiv8628 Před 5 měsíci +84

      @@o.o1858 and the response to that should be "what children?" since he has literally shown NO evidence of a child being involved in a crime

  • @FrostRare
    @FrostRare Před 5 měsíci +1332

    Max the type of dude to display himself opening an audio file that contains the desperate cries of a child getting SAd and then insert a clip of himself acting all sad and disturbed, just to make sure you know he hates pdfiles .
    What a bold stance man! Hating pdfiles takes a lot of guts.

    • @alphakevin687
      @alphakevin687 Před 5 měsíci +71

      Also the clip of him being sad is necessary since he is the type of homie of finding stuff like this funny.

    • @asherville
      @asherville Před 5 měsíci +144

      he did something like that with an abimal abuse video, didnt he? inexplicitly put the audio clip of a puppy being abused and afterwards does his "... what sick human would do this." thing? i swear ive watched the video and got disturbed by the audio and it made me avoid any and all of his content

    • @asherville
      @asherville Před 5 měsíci +70

      alright i found the video in question being puppystomp and im still baffled he included it in the first place. even with a small disclaimer, its still in horrendous taste to add that. i havent watched enough of his content (frankly because his editing leaves a bad taste in my mouth and the way hes handled these things) to know if he consistently adds clips of the other forms of abuse he covers but its sickening that he would even consider putting the videos and media he's crusading against into his own work and putting it out there for his thousands upon thousands of fans to see and hear

    • @B-zk9bt
      @B-zk9bt Před 5 měsíci +38

      @@ashervilleI remember that video, it made me psychically sick.

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 Před 5 měsíci +17

      I've watched enough of his video to know this is real

  • @Potte
    @Potte Před 2 měsíci +4

    It's extremely heartening to see the Internet demand proper scrutiny instead of grabbing pitchforks and hopping on a bandwagon. It's one thing to listen to victims, it's another to ignore the burden of proof and treat accusations as convictions. I understand the visceral hatred and fear people have of predators. I don't want children to be victimized, but I also don't want self-appointed internet sleuths leading amateur witch hunts that lead to more situations like the death of Sunil Tripathi. Mob mentality literally kills people, and the presumption of innocence is the backbone of a just and functioning society. We can't afford to forget that.

  • @natashamurray66
    @natashamurray66 Před 2 měsíci +8

    spencer just seems like a person you can't trust

  • @morecoffeeplease2745
    @morecoffeeplease2745 Před 5 měsíci +566

    Max has finally admitted that he was too busy to investigate Spencer's allegations for three years because he was busy fictionalizing his other investigations. Spencer was present in the call when he admitted this, and she's not immediately offended?! It is probably the biggest insult one could give to a victim, yet she is going to continue supporting him and be used like a tear-jerking prop at the end of his "accountability" video. She seems to care only when it's convenient financially.

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 5 měsíci +108

      Max and Spencer have known each other since she was in kindergarten with his sister. I suspect she might not be a victim at all.

    • @weedle4521
      @weedle4521 Před 5 měsíci +40

      I can definitely understand being a victim and hanging onto the one person you feel like is the only one trying to “fight for you”. (If that’s the case I hope someone actually gives them the proper legal help and a voice and they realize how awful max is treating their case and them) not saying your wrong tho mama max is so fucking unpredictable at this point 💀

    • @hithisthers7214
      @hithisthers7214 Před 5 měsíci +18

      From what I understand, Spencer and Max have a relationship with years of history.
      I'm unsure if it was romantic or platonic, or if she is even truly a victim or just playing it up for Max.
      If her story is true, Max is the one trivialising it and making people question the story

    • @ericbyo9472
      @ericbyo9472 Před 4 měsíci +2

      ​@@hithisthers7214 The fact that you even entertain the idea that it might be true is baffling to me. Of course it's all bullshit, how naive are you?

    • @hithisthers7214
      @hithisthers7214 Před 4 měsíci

      @@ericbyo9472 We don't know the full story. There is still room for lots of assumptions and speculation.
      It is a possibility that Spencer is a victim of assault and there are some elements of truth within the lies.
      We just don't know.
      Mamamax is obviously a liar and is full of shit, but Spencers involvement is still a blurry aspect.

  • @nanosmokex6998
    @nanosmokex6998 Před 5 měsíci +616

    Mutah does a better job warning us about scammers, malware, and viruses then Max does catching predators

    • @Moe50k
      @Moe50k Před 5 měsíci +12

      CORREECT

    • @SpyroTheEternalNight
      @SpyroTheEternalNight Před 5 měsíci +25

      bro i made a video back in 2021 warning people about a scam. it has 17 views. ............ *I'VE* done a better job warning people about scammers than Max has catching predators lol. literally 17 - 0.

    • @marielcarey4288
      @marielcarey4288 Před 5 měsíci +14

      ​@@SpyroTheEternalNight'fake mr beast giveaway' text on a black screen video less than a minute long 😭 bruh what did you expect

    • @SpyroTheEternalNight
      @SpyroTheEternalNight Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@marielcarey4288 where did i say i expected the video to get a lot of views?

    • @cl_0wnery235
      @cl_0wnery235 Před 5 měsíci +1

      well thats a given, considering mutahar knows what hes actually doing

  • @cc_the_rebel
    @cc_the_rebel Před 4 měsíci +4

    1:05:14 The absolute disappointment in his voice when he saw ChatGPT had me hollering LMAO 😂

  • @L333ny
    @L333ny Před 3 měsíci +4

    "You can't tell your story anymore" AS A SA VICTIM THAT ACTUALLY PISSES ME OFF. Due to the fact that this is a serious claim and if you wanna seek justice YOU HAVE TO GET EVIDENCE.

  • @WidderJonesWannabe
    @WidderJonesWannabe Před 5 měsíci +304

    As soon as I found out a while back that Spencer is LIVING WITH MAX, the entire case lost credibility for me. I knew there had to be some kind of overtly personal reason he is going so hard and self-destructing for this weak-on-evidence case. There is something WAY off here.

    • @nman551
      @nman551 Před 5 měsíci +70

      Yeah that’s a major red flag.

    • @pepinowhite5014
      @pepinowhite5014 Před 5 měsíci +86

      A lot of things don’t add up about Spencer. My theory is that Cam is an ex of hers and she now wants to ruin his life out of pettiness with help from Max.

    • @consuelonunez792
      @consuelonunez792 Před 5 měsíci +41

      She's not taking this situation with the respect and seriousness it deserves, if not for her, for the other victims.
      But if she was abducted by a cult leader once, she might again be victim of another narcissistic character creating another cult by promising "salvation" and "justice" and a "sense of belonging" to vulnerable people: Max.

    • @kubli365
      @kubli365 Před 5 měsíci +17

      @@consuelonunez792 dark. This is prime material for an exposè video that has schizophrenic occult horror edits narrated by a digitally pitched down voice. And a gif of a growling young black man with plastic fangs bought from Spirit Halloween.

    • @ugh55
      @ugh55 Před 5 měsíci

      @@consuelonunez792 More likely she was complicit and an active willing participant, so she's trying to paint him as some evil brainwashing cult leader to absolve herself of all guilt

  • @caesthoffe
    @caesthoffe Před 5 měsíci +218

    after the whole "pick a side" fiasco, that was what really made me take a step back and critically examine Max's content and realize how deeply fucked up it really was. christ.

    • @nojuanatall3281
      @nojuanatall3281 Před 5 měsíci +32

      I guess it is brave to try and gas light a bunch of influencers. Anyone doing the with me or against me dance has an ulterior motive.

    • @morbidhime
      @morbidhime Před 5 měsíci +24

      How this guy managed to keep this reputation squeaky clean for so long is beyond me. I've always felt something off when I saw his videos pop on my recommended

    • @windowcreeperbird9669
      @windowcreeperbird9669 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Honestly I'm surprised he didn't get much backlash for that.

    • @paucalderon8326
      @paucalderon8326 Před 5 měsíci +6

      @@nojuanatall3281 Yes, it's giving "I'm one of the good adults that you can trust! Don't trust anybody else but me and my supporters!" which is very sus. Also, the fact he is now living with Spencer...
      I feel I have heard this story before and it doesn't end well.

  • @222daley
    @222daley Před 4 měsíci +6

    There’s a list of things wrong with Max and Spencer both legally and economically. Spencer admitted to crimes, Max unknowingly might have passed the statute of limitations, extortion, fraud, witness tampering all of this is allegedly by the way. Max uses emotional blackmail on his friends. He’s clearly unhinged by his responses. Spencer is a master manipulator. Her crying because no one wants to talk to the other victims seem like a tatic to me but admittedly I’m not an expert.

  • @cleanserene6330
    @cleanserene6330 Před měsícem +3

    The fact that his first thought of legal remedy was civil action, contacting a lawyer about suing, (w no police report, timeline, evidence, etc, nada) not criminal caught me up short. I thought i had misunderstood the exchange. Then he admitted that in 5 years of predator hunting he knows NOTHING of the criminal justice system or police procedures. Maybe its just because i know so much about the CJS, but i found that astounding. I mean, watching a couple episodes of TCAP could give you more info than he had in his head. So in 5 years, he's caught no one. Done nothing. (Hasn't had time to review a few ppls evidence or create a timeline; what exactly HAS he been doing? That is the bare minimum info he should have. If they went to a real live lawyer he probably couldn't believe it either. And well, considering he says it's fake, he can't exactly make a false police report.) And it's not like predators are hard to find. Look in the comment section of kids' content. Look at family youtubers who give their infants gratuitous, unnecessary midday baths and discount/deflect the notion AI has turned their children into CP movie stars. Look in the newspaper, who is facing allegations. In the society pages, who runs trafficking charities? Read Hollywood gossip blind items. Look at obituaries; I have read obits w crazy red flags that screamed predator. If you know what to look for you can't NOT see it. The hard part is what to do to actually help, and doing it. But its everywhere. And it takes 5 minutes to learn about basic police procedures and response. There is zero excuse for ignorance. He is a white knighter playing at savior. His sickening letters praising and threatening every A to D list pseudo celebrity, asking for help (but really a collab for clout), thinly disguised and blatantly manipulative, are too much. He is a caricature of himself.
    He has set himself up for a heap of trouble, though, if alleged werewolves hire lawyers.
    *START interviewing police. Like it just occurred to him he was supposed to have another move, an end game, something besides theatrics. Like what DO you do w these predators you catch? Let them flee the country, because it was fake to begin with? People are what they obsess over, where their mind spends it's time. People tell you who they are.
    (And I'm sorry, but Spencer and co have no case, no matter what happened. Max came out and said it was ALL supposed to be seen as fiction except for what, a photo? It doesn't matter. A defense attorney only needs Max's own evidence on creating this situation. No case. Unless he gets sued.)

  • @ninaniles3184
    @ninaniles3184 Před 5 měsíci +784

    That “I’m out” was heartbreaking, knowing how he lost someone he deemed a friend due to this whole situation, that sucks man, truly

    • @joog79
      @joog79 Před 5 měsíci +63

      Exactly that, admire his strength to put his principles before emotions.

    • @wouldntulike2knoe
      @wouldntulike2knoe Před 5 měsíci +34

      It makes me visibly frown

    • @Bluey2600
      @Bluey2600 Před 5 měsíci +23

      @@joog79muta’s always been an example to follow when it comes to ethically navigating a youtube career, but man, it sucks that he has to lose people like this. the man works hard, pity to see him go through hardship for it.

    • @crystalwhisp
      @crystalwhisp Před 4 měsíci +10

      ​@@vorbo01 God this is such a an insensitive way to respond to this comment. Having Internet friends isn't an issue as long as you're safe about it. Muta trusted Max to be a good person and Max betrayed that. It was NEVER mutas job (or anyone else's for that matter) to somehow predict Max's awful shitshow happening, stop with the victim blaming garbage please.

    • @crystalwhisp
      @crystalwhisp Před 4 měsíci +2

      @@vorbo01 look man if your main argument for being against Internet friends is that it's "cringe" then I don't think we have anything to say to each other at this point just please try to consider Muta wasn't the only one negativily affected by this bs, that real people who have been preyed on by predators looked up to Max because of his nasty hero facad. Not everyone is as "enlightened" as you are. Have a nice life.

  • @erectilereptile7383
    @erectilereptile7383 Před 5 měsíci +3684

    Imagine turning alleged CSA and grooming into an ARG. Max is an obsessed freak. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was a creep.

    • @quaygrass6212
      @quaygrass6212 Před 5 měsíci +411

      He is, he admitted to stalking a girl he had never even dated and cutting the name of her boyfriend into his arm, and on top of that he later accused that man of being a predator with absolutely no evidence. We have no reason to believe Max anyway, as that’s very personally motivated and clearly he has a grudge if he blames them for calling the cops instead of reaching out after that video was sent

    • @phenom...
      @phenom... Před 5 měsíci

      Turning alleged Confederate States of America and grooming into an Ancestral Recombination Graph?

    • @DriscolDevil
      @DriscolDevil Před 5 měsíci +73

      ​​@@quaygrass6212do you have anything to back that up?
      Not trying to be mean, but that sounds very made up. I don't like the guy, and spreading bs will only hurt the credibility of his actual offenses.
      (Something his fanbase is very aware of)

    • @quaygrass6212
      @quaygrass6212 Před 5 měsíci +235

      @@DriscolDevil in his video response to the allegations put forward by the 5 women, he admits that he stalked her and sent that video to her and her boyfriend. He also tried to frame it like they just didn’t understand him that they should have consoled him.

    • @quaygrass6212
      @quaygrass6212 Před 5 měsíci +130

      @@DriscolDevil Magnetar was the boyfriend, and years later after a girl he never dated comes out against him for all the stuff he did to her, which me admitted to, he couldn‘t just do that. He made a false allegation with absolutely no evidence to be heard of against Magnetar/the boyfriend of the girl he stalked

  • @luc11_
    @luc11_ Před 5 měsíci +7

    i’m a victim of grooming and the way max handles this supposed serious situation is just fucked up.
    he treats it like drama or gossip all while saying that people who don’t speak out (even though there’s no evidence what he’s saying is even true) are supporting predators when honestly i’d rather people NOT say shit then treat it the way max does. 😐

  • @_.azzy.x
    @_.azzy.x Před 4 měsíci +6

    I am 17 years old, throughout my childhood I suffered from 1 decade of ch1d 4bu§3 and 8 years of bullying, I was recently diagnosed with c-PTSD, and it is sad and disgusting to see people who use this kind of topics as entertainment, I wouldn't mind if they made a horror or entertainment type video with topics of this style, but when you use real cases, you don't provide evidence or misinformation and in addition to not clarifying that it is entertainment, you say that you are really trying to help... disgusting

  • @rockettodan
    @rockettodan Před 5 měsíci +504

    props to Muta for having stayed calm during that whole call 😭😭 especially after being yelled at, I would've gone crazy

    • @Tomahawks360
      @Tomahawks360 Před 5 měsíci +133

      Being yelled *and* being blamed for Max poor investigation and the victims story being questioned.
      Like... I would have punched my pc out of frustration.
      Muta is really fucking tough.

    • @TeenWithACarrotIDK
      @TeenWithACarrotIDK Před 5 měsíci +43

      “Don’t talk to me until you can speak with a inside voice.”

    • @TheVenhammer
      @TheVenhammer Před 5 měsíci +63

      I think the only thing keeping Muta sane was Nick in there being a bro for him

  • @UnknownUser-wp9vp
    @UnknownUser-wp9vp Před 5 měsíci +628

    The fact Muta literally sounded like a disappointed friend and gave him so many benefits despite his lack of change shows how much of a good friend Muta was.

    • @hunterofthebigfootwithinte5609
      @hunterofthebigfootwithinte5609 Před 5 měsíci +11

      ​@robertmonroe9837wait, proof?

    • @bluecayser1498
      @bluecayser1498 Před 5 měsíci

      @robertmonroe9837well, guess that means nick is releasing the call. This is gonna be fun to watch go down

    • @LedyE
      @LedyE Před 5 měsíci +1

      Just like in the Jirard situation and that too ended with legal threats

    • @GekkoOne
      @GekkoOne Před 5 měsíci

      @@LedyE Camden Jirard 'The Completionist' Davis

    • @error-try-again-later
      @error-try-again-later Před 5 měsíci +8

      Meanwhile this video makes Max sound like a complete and utter user. His _default tactic_ is to shame people just for asking questions, he name-drops CZcamsrs all the time and bitches when popular channels won't work with him, and he restructured his whole video JUST to be passive aggressive to critikal for the crime of not answering a DM fast enough. Psycho behaviour.

  • @snowarmth
    @snowarmth Před 5 měsíci +5

    There was something I found odd about Max's decisions. He claimed to have gotten a P arrested, he's leading the case alone without law enforcement and he is still trying to get very large community pillars to back him.
    These things tell me that he essentially wants to be his own private detective, the smartest person in the room who managed to crack the case alone. He wanted to save these people himself so he can have all the credit, and unfortunately, he wanted the fame from doing it himself, hense the reaching out to larger creators. I'm worried that these things mattered so much to him that he didn't take the case to officials who could get actual substantial evidence on the supposed P while he would be unaware he was being investigated, that or he may have overestimated his abilities and their ability to gather evidence. The situation just doesn't add up for him, but if you think about how he acts with regards to those who are larger than him denying him assistance, I think you can start to see how that starts to click with all the other signs we are seeing from him.
    I'd also add that seeing that the victim insisted he cover her story and willingly waited multiple years for him specifically, and she is supposedly his close friend, I'm skeptical that any of this is actually real. She wouldn't just allow this person to abuse other victims for Max to take his time, it doesn't seem to sense from a struggling, traumatized victim to willingly subject others to her torment. It's hard to believe considering his previous arrest didn't exactly happen...
    Nobody asked me, but it would be irrational to give the benefit of the doubt here. This doesn't make sense, and he's pretending.

  • @HowdyFolksGaming
    @HowdyFolksGaming Před 5 měsíci +6

    Okay Muta, please take this donation money and get a Batman-esque voice changer. That’ll obviously help us to take you more seriously in the future 😂