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  • @TheDaveCullenShow
    @TheDaveCullenShow  Před 6 měsíci +35

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    • @gabesalgado789
      @gabesalgado789 Před 6 měsíci

      You forgot to mention that Star Trek VI is really good. All other points are valid.

    • @ishhodcollins5220
      @ishhodcollins5220 Před 5 měsíci

      Been a fan of your work sir. I watched Star Trek 3-6 in theater with my late father...Along with many amazing pieces of work that was our youth. I tip my hat sir.
      I also have watched almost all of OG Who (Tom Baker!) and (some of new), Blakes 7, Babylon5, Firefly,Xfiles, Fringe..... and of course all of the Star Trek series PRE JJ Abrams moves.....

    • @popculturecurator
      @popculturecurator Před 5 měsíci +1

      Eddie Murphy did NOT turn down the role. He was very insistent on taking taking the role. Nimoy said NO. Paramount gave him The Golden Child instead. Get your facts straight

    • @jordanthomas4379
      @jordanthomas4379 Před 5 měsíci

      Have you reviewed all TNG movies yet?
      I can’t find a playlist on CZcams.

    • @maverickman6486
      @maverickman6486 Před 5 měsíci

      OG Star Trek had lots of experience of Science Fiction Star Trek in the past earth from a number of tv episodes. Maybe those past experiences helped with keep it star trek in a then modern setting of 1980s.

  • @doltBmB
    @doltBmB Před 6 měsíci +201

    I just gotta point out how much I respect that they destroyed the enterprise, and KEPT IT DESTROYED for one whole movie.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +15

      What was pretty cool was the comic book series that started post-Wrath had Saavik as part of the regular crew. Then post-Search Kirk was in command of the Excelsior for years of comics until Star Trek IV gave us NCC-1701A.

    • @amehak1922
      @amehak1922 Před 6 měsíci +22

      It stayed destroyed, the Enterprise A was a completely different ship.

    • @SovereignStatesman
      @SovereignStatesman Před 5 měsíci +5

      Too bad they couldn't do that with Spock.
      The Enterprise was already scrapped by Starfleet in ST3, after being shot up by Khan in ST2; despite being completely refit and overhauled in ST1.

    • @amehak1922
      @amehak1922 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@SovereignStatesman there's at least a decade or maybe a dozen years between ST1 ST2. The upgraded Enterprise lasted for a while, even longer than A, B, C, or D.

    • @davidgeier5827
      @davidgeier5827 Před 4 měsíci

      As a movie Trope, It's been overdone...

  • @erocshivoni
    @erocshivoni Před 6 měsíci +259

    IV Demonstrated the strength of years of good character development. You could take these people out of their ship, uniforms, and setting, put them in a fish out of water story and watching them interact and solve problems together felt every bit like Star Trek.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +12

      💯 it ONLY works because we know these characters so well

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross Před 6 měsíci +12

      yip - zero sympathy for hard-core trekkies that don't like this film

    • @ltjjenkins
      @ltjjenkins Před 5 měsíci +1

      Great point

    • @amberace
      @amberace Před 5 měsíci +4

      Yep! I truly love this movie.

    • @HimeNoKuri
      @HimeNoKuri Před 5 měsíci +3

      and Nimoy directed it

  • @Littletime839
    @Littletime839 Před 5 měsíci +79

    I like the part where Scotty tries to give verbal instructions to a computer. 37 years later not only can we do that and be understood by AI but we even have transparent aluminium.

    • @pgon9097
      @pgon9097 Před 5 měsíci +17

      where do you think we got the transparent aluminium from?

    • @JamesRDavenport
      @JamesRDavenport Před 5 měsíci +21

      "How do we know he didn't invent it?"😊

    • @michaelotoole1807
      @michaelotoole1807 Před 5 měsíci +12

      @@JamesRDavenport "Why? How do we know he didn't invent the thing?"

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 Před 5 měsíci +7

      He was only a couple of decades out coming from 300 years in the future. Pretty respectable margin of error.

    • @paulthiessen6444
      @paulthiessen6444 Před 5 měsíci +2

      We have transparent aluminum?

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 Před 6 měsíci +202

    The real whales were the friends we made along the way.

    • @theelder4797
      @theelder4797 Před 6 měsíci +5

      😂👍 And learning to work as a team!

    • @matthewvalente5877
      @matthewvalente5877 Před 6 měsíci

      @@theelder4797my favorte marine mammals

    • @THEDiscoDavros
      @THEDiscoDavros Před 6 měsíci +6

      The real team were the whales we friends along the way

    • @MrYerak5
      @MrYerak5 Před 6 měsíci +2

      Did you just called me fat?

    • @cosmodrifter
      @cosmodrifter Před 6 měsíci +1

      Haha that's a good one 😂

  • @Otokichi786
    @Otokichi786 Před 6 měsíci +171

    I've always considered "Star Trek IV: Save the Whales!" a breath of fresh air in the movie series. For once, the rest of the cast got to do something besides react and "run lines." Kirk Thatcher as "the Punk on the bus with the Boombox," came up with a "fake Punk" song that continues to resound over the decades. Mr. Scott gets to "address the computer," Hikaru Sulu flies a helicopter, Chekov and Uhura get to spy on "nuclear wessels," Dr. McCoy gets to trash "20th century medicine," then there are the "colorful metaphors" made famous by "The Literary Masters," Harold Robbins and Jacquelyn Susann! Nothing like having fun while saving the world...again.;)

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +10

      Also, it was about time they had an installment that reflected the lighthearted episodes

    • @rorymcgregor625
      @rorymcgregor625 Před 6 měsíci +14

      Yeah I agree. This movie worked because we had a lot of character moments that felt earned over the past few movies. Their banter and reactions to our modern day felt more natural.

    • @petermilne2470
      @petermilne2470 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I loved the fact that in The Search for Spock, McCoy commented "I'd feel safe giving him (Spock) one of my Kidney's than what is stored in my Brain" and in The Voyage Home, he gives the woman on kidney dialysis in the hospital a tablet that helps her grow a new Kidney while wondering if it's the Dark Ages. The characterisation was everything in this film.

    • @Uzarran
      @Uzarran Před 5 měsíci +9

      Chekov's scene with the "nuclear wessels" is one that only gets better as we age.
      As a kid, I thought it was pretty funny because it was "Chekov, saying line in funny accent".
      Then I got older, and realized the full weight of the socio-political time period that scene took place in, and it transformed from pretty funny to hilarious.

    • @richardlafleur8389
      @richardlafleur8389 Před 5 měsíci +2

      And don't forget the true star of the show: Madeleine!

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger Před 5 měsíci +15

    What I remember is leaving the theater, thinking, "They really captured the humor of Star Trek with this one." The line that cemented it for me was, "Everybody remember where we parked."

  • @graceskerp
    @graceskerp Před 6 měsíci +24

    Missed one of the best moments: Spock and Sarek reconciled.
    "Tell my mother I feel fine."

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +3

      That was a great bit. So concise. One could even call it logical.

    • @graceskerp
      @graceskerp Před 6 měsíci

      @@docsavage8640 With just a soupcon of emotion. Hanging around with humans will do that.

    • @Hiraghm
      @Hiraghm Před 5 měsíci +2

      "Your associates seem to be people of good character."
      Spock corrects him: "They are my friends."
      Then the message to his mother, relayed through his father... "Breathe easy, Mom; I'm going to be okay... I 'get it'."

  • @martinfiedler4317
    @martinfiedler4317 Před 6 měsíci +17

    "Star Trek - The one with the Whales" is definitively the funniest one 😁

  • @logicplague
    @logicplague Před 6 měsíci +34

    After 2 and 3, we really needed a pick-up story. This is one of my favorites.

  • @ladiesgentswegothim
    @ladiesgentswegothim Před 6 měsíci +38

    "If my suspicions are correct, there can be no response to this message." Always found that statement so chilling coming from Spock.

    • @bobboonah
      @bobboonah Před 5 měsíci +5

      Surprising that they couldn't replicate whale language, but could slingshot around the sun to travel back in time.

    • @22BOZIDAR
      @22BOZIDAR Před 5 měsíci +5

      I think they explained this as they would just be talking jiberish.
      I think they should have just played the national geograhic record.

    • @Matt-yg8ub
      @Matt-yg8ub Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@22BOZIDAR yeah but imagine that the whale probe is asking for an update on the mission to colonize earth……. And we play back a Nat Geo, recording of two adult humpbacks on migration yelling at their calves that “we’ll get there when we get there! “

  • @AndrewElgert
    @AndrewElgert Před 6 měsíci +23

    My favorite part of the movie is when Dr. McCoy, Kirk and Taylor go to rescue Chekov in the hospital. Bones' reaction to the primitive 20th century medicine is hilarious, and is totally in character for him. There's a throwaway bit where he sees a woman who's in the hospital for dialysis, and he gives her a pill. Later, she's celebrating in a wheelchair shouting, "The doctor gave me a pill and I grew a new kidney!" It does have some slapstick bits, but I do think the whole scene captures the spirit of Trek, that things can get much better in the future, and medicine is probably the area where future generations will think we were barbarians, much like Bones.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague Před 6 měsíci +3

      That's how we look at medicine from 300 years ago, it fits.

  • @Pwade21
    @Pwade21 Před 6 měsíci +80

    I always loved the fact that, even though humanity was exploring the stars, they still couldn’t figure out the language of the humpback whales.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +8

      Well, they have never TRIED.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague Před 6 měsíci +1

      I think they did in the novel, "Probe".

    • @bighominid
      @bighominid Před 5 měsíci +2

      And then Spock comes along and communicates easily with them.

    • @somelittlellama4186
      @somelittlellama4186 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Days ago there was an actual news saying they hoped that, learning the language of whales can help us to understand eventual alien languages.

    • @thedirectorschair1054
      @thedirectorschair1054 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@somelittlellama4186 We'd be better off learning how to speak to the other intelligent life on Earth than worrying about the life in outer space, which, if it does exist, is just going to kill us in multiple ways.

  • @carlrood4457
    @carlrood4457 Před 6 měsíci +21

    The thing people forget is that many Star Trek episodes didn't have a "villain", but more an obstacle to overcome. Yes, there were dangers, but no one to fight directly. "This Side of Paradise", "Operation: Annihilate" , "The Immunity Syndrome", "Amok Time". Heck, in most of the Kirk destroys computer episodes it wasn't that the original programmers were evil, just misguided and the computers really couldn't handle the subtleties of human thought and emotion.

    • @anthonylogiudice9215
      @anthonylogiudice9215 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I agree and that is why ST IV is quintessential Star Trek with a little more humor.

    • @lauranolastnamegiven3385
      @lauranolastnamegiven3385 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Not to mention, that it was hardly out of character for ST to have a 'light' or straight-up funny episode, every so often.

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 Před 6 měsíci +49

    During TOS we had a number of episodes where the crew the Enterprise somehow end up in Earth's past, so IV is very in keeping with TOS. Also, most TOS episodes were NOT about space war, but were about solving quirky problems which is also what IV is about. IV is very in keeping with TOS and is only being done on a larger scale with a movie budget. IV may be a change of pace for the movies, but in many ways is the most typical of classic Trek.

    • @theRealpizzabandit
      @theRealpizzabandit Před 5 měsíci +3

      This is the truth. I am a huge Kirk and ToS fan. I guess there are those who don't relate the movies with the serial. I enjoyed IV very much for the same reasons, not every story needs to be a big space battle.

    • @dactylionpriest
      @dactylionpriest Před 5 měsíci +2

      Exactly, and thank you.. I was gonna post the same thing :)

  • @brick6347
    @brick6347 Před 6 měsíci +77

    My grandfather took me to see this at the cinema. It was the first Star Trek I saw on the big screen, and the memory of my spending time with my late grandfather will stay with me forever.
    One thing that's always made me chuckle is that they only used animatronic whales, but the usual sort still protested it and wrote angry letters. Sorry people in the 1980s, some things will never change.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +8

      I didn't even know they were animatronic until reading about it this year. They were well done.

    • @RisenPhoenix68
      @RisenPhoenix68 Před 6 měsíci +5

      ​@docsavage8640 of course! It was ILM!

    • @karahughes7074
      @karahughes7074 Před 6 měsíci +8

      I didn't know they were animatronic either until now! And yeah, I'm not surprised people complained. Sometimes I think that's all some people live for.

    • @logicplague
      @logicplague Před 6 měsíci +6

      The more things change, the more they stay the same.

    • @AzraelThanatos
      @AzraelThanatos Před 5 měsíci +1

      It was the only one my dad bought on VHS while I was growing up...saw most of them in theaters, but that's the only one he bought.

  • @treadstone1970
    @treadstone1970 Před 5 měsíci +7

    Always enjoyed Star Trek on TV when I was a kid in the 70s, but it was Star Trek IV which turned me into a hard core Trekkie.
    The humour in the movie works with the characters being put in a fish out of water situation and environment they are not familiar with.
    One of the very best of the movies.

  • @grantmiller6570
    @grantmiller6570 Před 6 měsíci +51

    Some actual good fun family entertainment with an environmental message that doesn’t punch you in the face.

    • @johntabler349
      @johntabler349 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I actually thought the messaging was pretty heavy handed especially for Star Trek which usually handled things in a nuanced way but I forgive that since the rest of the movie is so darned good

    • @inkermoy
      @inkermoy Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@johntabler349 I'm not sure how old you were when you saw it, but back then the call for stopping whale hunting worldwide was pretty much everywhere. TVH took that topic and made an entertaining story around it. It was just another bandwagon thing corporations still do (perhaps on steroids), but without the entertaining bit.

    • @johntabler349
      @johntabler349 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@inkermoyI recall save the whales on everything

    • @veganconservative1109
      @veganconservative1109 Před 5 měsíci

      At least they didn't ask the whales for their pronouns. @@johntabler349

    • @johntabler349
      @johntabler349 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@inkermoy back then there were radicals but for the most part environmental causes were grounded in sanity. It's similar in my opinion to Let that be your last Battlefield, which is an episode I like a lot but it took a very on the nose approach to racism as opposed to the more subtle but extremely effective strategy of showing diverse people working together in an environment as equals and showing it as normal. Not trying to be critical just offering my perspective

  • @Axemantitan
    @Axemantitan Před 5 měsíci +5

    The morbid thing about renaming the USS Yorktown to the USS Enterprise-A was that the Yorktown was shown at the beginning of the movie, and its crew didn't survive the encounter with the probe.

  • @Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s
    @Take_Me_Back_To_The_1980s Před 6 měsíci +15

    I have nothing but love for this film. It's in the same bracket as The Goonies, where critical analysis doesn't even apply, it's pure joy

  • @kz4301
    @kz4301 Před 6 měsíci +19

    Voyage Home is my second favorite of the Trek movies, behind only Wrath of Khan. It absolutely fits with classic Star Trek's lighter episodes. Kirk's "A double dumba** on you!" is comedy gold.

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +3

      I rate it #3 after II and VI. Very close with III.

    • @kz4301
      @kz4301 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@docsavage8640 I love Undiscovered Country, I usually would put it 3rd or maybe 4th, but I like the 1986-made IV better. I think part of it is that VI, being made in 1991, looks a bit more reminiscent of TNG and DS9 in the sets and stuff, and that feels just a bit odd to me.

    • @Hiraghm
      @Hiraghm Před 5 měsíci +4

      Wrath of Khan is my favorite because it is the most "epic-like" of the movies. At the time I hated it because of its messaging.
      First Contact is my 2nd favorite, because of its messaging: one flawed man gives Mankind the stars.
      Also I love the scene where Picard implicitly equates the Borg with the socialist slavers of the real world.
      "We've made too many compromises already; too many retreats. They invade our cultures and we fall back. They assimilate entire societies and we fall back. Not again. The line must be drawn here! This far, no further! And _I_ will make them pay for what they've done!"
      There are millions of Americans, and some Europeans, who can relate to this sentiment.

  • @oopsydaisy4637
    @oopsydaisy4637 Před 5 měsíci +12

    It was many years before I knew the whales were animatronic models. Amazing work they did, and the way the on screen chemistry came through was great. It takes many years to have chemistry like that

  • @mo_musashi_284
    @mo_musashi_284 Před 6 měsíci +6

    That alien cigar shape probe was similar to Oumuamua that recently passed Earth.

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 Před 6 měsíci +3

      That was eerie how much that thing looked like the probe from this movie.

  • @canonwright8397
    @canonwright8397 Před 6 měsíci +13

    A good copy of this kind of film is 'Galaxy Quest' back in 1999. It somehow pokes fun at the Stat Trek universe while being respectful at the same time. Jason Nesmith is one of my favorite starship captions. And the all-star cast did a fantastic job, too.

    • @Cartoonman154
      @Cartoonman154 Před 4 měsíci

      Galaxy Quest also poked fun at the real relationship between the TOS cast, which is funny.

  • @seankayll9017
    @seankayll9017 Před 6 měsíci +20

    In 1986 the whaling moratorium had not started and whale populations had almost reached the point of no return. It was really quite depressing at the time. I wonder how much this film improved whales' lot? A superb Trek film as well!

    • @harbl99
      @harbl99 Před 5 měsíci +5

      It still amazes me that it took that long. We didn't _need_ to hunt whales since kerosene became a thing in the 1850s.

    • @lauranolastnamegiven3385
      @lauranolastnamegiven3385 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@harbl99 Some people just want to kill beautiful creatures (who are probably smarter than the humans hunting them).
      ...and they still do...and are

  • @e.j.vkanty4482
    @e.j.vkanty4482 Před 6 měsíci +35

    We still need a murder mystery sequel focusing on the sudden disappearance of Dr. Gillian Taylor. What happened to her after she fled the aquarium in a rage? Did Bob Briggs murder her? Or maybe he saw the perfect opportunity to abduct her without anyone knowing. The police will have questions!

    • @docsavage8640
      @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +8

      That would be a missing persons case. No evidence of murder or reason to believe she is dead. But it would be really weird how she just vanished.

    • @e.j.vkanty4482
      @e.j.vkanty4482 Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@docsavage8640 Only until she was legally declared dead. People have been convicted for murder without a body. But, yes, until that point, it would be a missing person investigation. As the last person to see her, Bob Briggs would still top the suspect list though.

    • @evenmoor
      @evenmoor Před 5 měsíci

      @@e.j.vkanty4482 Would his situation improve or not when they find her abandoned vehicle in Golden Gate Park?

    • @summersetbanjo7440
      @summersetbanjo7440 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Greg Cox is actually currently working on a Star Trek novel with pretty much that premise.

    • @kingofthorns203
      @kingofthorns203 Před 5 měsíci +2

      She found Willard Decker in the wreckage of V'Ger after the crew of her science vessel was killed in an ion storm. They accidentally went on a time traveling adventure back in the 20th century. When they were ultimately stranded in the past, they fell in love, got married, and he became a minister and she a housewife.

  • @dragonmac1234
    @dragonmac1234 Před 6 měsíci +17

    I watched this on VHS around the time I was recovering from a perforated stomach ulcer. It took my mind off my problems and it's still my second favourite Star Trek movie after Wrath Of Khan.

  • @chaoticiannunez2419
    @chaoticiannunez2419 Před 5 měsíci +3

    “Obviously too much LDS at Berkeley.” Will never get old for me.

  • @lynngreen7978
    @lynngreen7978 Před 6 měsíci +9

    I consider this my favorite movie, as it feels the most like the series.
    I do wish Takei's scenes, where he meets his great-great-grandfather were not lost.

  • @haitolawrence5986
    @haitolawrence5986 Před 6 měsíci +17

    I can't even begin to express how much fun that movie was! 😎

  • @mikeshirleyforever
    @mikeshirleyforever Před 6 měsíci +25

    I think Nicholas Meyer deserved so much praise for his contribution to this film as well as II and VI. I highly recommend one of his earlier films 'Time After Time' which had a lot of parallels to The Voyage Home. Meyer's interviews are also incredibly wonderful to watch, great sense of humour and very intellectual in knowing how an audience's mind works and to surprise them with a real dry wit.

    • @thedirectorschair1054
      @thedirectorschair1054 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Time after Time is a great hidden gem of a movie.

    • @veganconservative1109
      @veganconservative1109 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I remember the title and that I liked it... now I'm going to have to go refresh my memory on what it was about.

  • @noneed4me2n7
    @noneed4me2n7 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Compared to what trek is now all the TOS films are bangers. I still enjoy rewatching them, yes even 5, as they still never fail to entertain.

  • @arielfrancisco8745
    @arielfrancisco8745 Před 6 měsíci +4

    This is my favorite "TOS" ST movies. "Well Double Damn on you!" :)

  • @CrustyWhiteBread
    @CrustyWhiteBread Před 6 měsíci +11

    Probably my favorite Star Trek movie.
    Great stuff.

  • @skylx0812
    @skylx0812 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I loved that they gave Uhura an opportunity to display her skills with audio tech when she had to adjust the probe signal for sea density.
    That hasn't happened since the original series when she had to climb into the the crawl space under her consul and repair circuitry with a space soldering gun.

  • @DrDetfink
    @DrDetfink Před 5 měsíci +3

    I remember seeing this film as a young man on opening night. Star Trek IV came out shortly after the Challenger explosion which really shook up the USA at the time. Its message, positivity, & light hearted humor was such a warm welcome.

  • @daviddonn5467
    @daviddonn5467 Před 6 měsíci +5

    “Don’t tell me, you’re from outer space” “no, I’m from Iowa. I only work in outer space” classic Kirk

  • @OldMovieRob
    @OldMovieRob Před 6 měsíci +28

    Great analysis. I didn't mind the "center" portion of the film set in the past, but honestly it was the beginning and ending sandwich parts I found the most intriguing: the brief scene of the USS Saratoga and crew, Spock's computer training regime, the Klingon ambassador tearing into Kirk's actions, Spock's farewell to his father, and the "ta-da!" of the new Enterprise at the end all make up why I just love those Harve Bennett portions of the film.

  • @sowder
    @sowder Před 6 měsíci +5

    Every time I think of Eddie Murphy being in this movie, I immediately remember Superman 3 with Richard Pryor

  • @DaveTastic5000
    @DaveTastic5000 Před 6 měsíci +7

    After the dark tone of the previous two films, it was nice to see the cast having a bit of fun. It kind of reminds me of "Tomorrow is Yesterday." Each cast member got a chance to shine. It is purely 80's, but any time travel film is going to be locked into the era it is set in. I still enjoy this movie today, because I am an 80's kid.

    • @TruthTellert63
      @TruthTellert63 Před 5 měsíci

      "It is purely 80s" -- that's why it's so good.

  • @theelder4797
    @theelder4797 Před 6 měsíci +26

    Always loved this one as a kid, but pretty much enjoyed them all as a Star Trek fan.

  • @kaalesrex2933
    @kaalesrex2933 Před 6 měsíci +14

    What always amazed me, even now so long later is how well those whales look .. because except for a couple of wildlife shots or shots from whaling documentaries there were no real whales in the movie

  • @RantingBrummie
    @RantingBrummie Před 5 měsíci +4

    This film is a great example of how to have 'a message' , instead of pushing "THE MESSAGE". A few subtle hints here and there, then leaving it there without having it front and centre of every single frame.

  • @DJWHITE_
    @DJWHITE_ Před 5 měsíci +2

    They cared about the franchise and thought about what they were making. I miss that level of professionalism and pride.

  • @alexandervandergriend7098
    @alexandervandergriend7098 Před 6 měsíci +7

    I decided to watch it. The introductory orchestral soundtrack as the credits roll just baffled me. I had forgotten how great the original movies were. They put you in such an excellent mood. You want to call family members, you want to sit by a fireplace after a long day at work. Thank you!

  • @thattinawoman5119
    @thattinawoman5119 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I was in grade school when this movie came out - the whole "save the whales" schtick was pretty prevalent at the time (even at 10 years old I thought it was a little over the top and cliche, used to sell things and convince others to change their behavior through do-goodism). I didn't see this movie until I was in my early 20's, and I was pleasantly surprised, and now I can't really watch this film without watching the entire unofficial trilogy of II through IV. Definitely always worth watching when I see it on TV - the humor is great and not overdone, as you stated, and appropriate for the story.

  • @thecynicinthedark4339
    @thecynicinthedark4339 Před 6 měsíci +11

    Was a damn great film back in the day!

  • @grandmufftwerkin9037
    @grandmufftwerkin9037 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Kirk is the Prince of Whales. 🙃

  • @davidbixby8682
    @davidbixby8682 Před 6 měsíci +38

    I love this film so much, a real masterpiece and immensely satisfying for OG series fans. Nothing about this film to dislike unless your crazy...

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross Před 6 měsíci +4

      It was a chance to sit back and just indulgently enjoy the original cast of Star Trek characters that we had grown so fond of over the years. This was the pinnacle moment of the franchise history for that, as no other cast from any of the other Star Trek series acheived as much endearment as this cast did

    • @cellfonership
      @cellfonership Před 6 měsíci +3

      I am not crazy, but I find it plagiarizing from "So long and thanks for all the fish".

    • @davidbixby8682
      @davidbixby8682 Před 5 měsíci

      Sadly, we can't ask Leonard Nimoy if he read Douglas 'Adams' book, or if he ever commented on it. You're not crazy to like Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy though!@@cellfonership

    • @shamancredible8632
      @shamancredible8632 Před 5 měsíci

      I think you're crazy. It was a stupid save the whales movie. Your iq might be a bit cold

  • @mrdeeds72
    @mrdeeds72 Před 6 měsíci +8

    This film brought back Star Trek back to prominence imo and helped pave the way for TNG.

  • @chrischreative2245
    @chrischreative2245 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I like the scene of Spock and Sarek at the end a lot. “Your associates are people of good character”…..Spock says “They are my friends” 👍🏽

  • @derekmcmanus8615
    @derekmcmanus8615 Před 6 měsíci +7

    Nuclear wessels

  • @ravensthorne4631
    @ravensthorne4631 Před 5 měsíci +2

    What makes the OG film series so great is that each of the six movies is so unique in terms of story and style. After First Contact, every Next Gen and reboot film was a "revenge" story

  • @zeehero7280
    @zeehero7280 Před 5 měsíci +1

    "Well a double dumbass on you!" one of the greatest quotes of James T Kirk.

  • @GregsGameRoom
    @GregsGameRoom Před 5 měsíci +3

    Love ST4! Visited the aquarium and was gaga walking down the same steps as Kirk & Spock! Also met Walter at DragonCon and he personally told me the "Nuclear Wessels" story. (About the woman they had to chase down to get her approval to be in the movie.) I love that this one doesn't have a big-bad villain. I think the current Star Trek should emulate *THIS* movie instead of Wrath of Khan.

  • @robertsrobots6531
    @robertsrobots6531 Před 5 měsíci +2

    In 1986 I was 21 and working in the West End of London. I went to see this movie after work in Leicester Square and found myself sitting behind a middle-aged couple who were obviously huge Trek fans. When the Alexander Courage theme struck up at the beginning, the man briefly bounced in his seat with excitement. That's how wonderful it was to see these films back then. What a happy time.

  • @misugita
    @misugita Před 5 měsíci +2

    I had the chance to watch this film in the theaters when it first came out. At the time I was living in a community where a very large percentage of the community were members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. There is that scene where Spock was wearing his traditional Vulcan robes and Dr. Taylor asks Admiral Kirk what is up with his friend, and Kirk, slightly misremembering his history tells her, "Oh, him? He's harmless. Back in the sixties, he was part of the free speech movement at Berkeley. I think he did a little too much LDS." The auditorium absolutely ROCKED with laughter. I think the audience was delighted that not only was there a truly funny joke that referenced their faith in a Star Trek film, but that it was all in good fun without being even the slightest bit derogatory or having any mean spiritedness. I could hear a couple of people repeating the joke to each other and laughing as I left the cineplex. I remember the experience and the film quite fondly. Thanks Dave!

  • @user-jm7bw9bo2l
    @user-jm7bw9bo2l Před 6 měsíci +2

    Interesting side note when Scotty and Doc. Mc Coy get the plastic needed to transport the whales they get it by giving the formula for transparent aluminum. Transparent aluminum now exists!

  • @aj_writer73
    @aj_writer73 Před 5 měsíci +9

    I find myself watching these "old classics" more and more these days. I think it's funny that you (Dave) have been doing a lot of reviews lately of them. It shows the terrible state we are in these days with a lack of good quality content. Yes. The "good ole days" may be a real thing.

  • @zendodeb
    @zendodeb Před 6 měsíci +10

    It always comes back to the writing. And staying true to the origin of the franchise - the lore, if you will

  • @spartanhawk7637
    @spartanhawk7637 Před 6 měsíci +2

    It makes me smile how I simply read the phrase "the one with the whales" and instantly knew which Star Trek movie you meant.

  • @doberski6855
    @doberski6855 Před 6 měsíci +8

    Yeah this is my favourite of the TOS crew movies, the tone and style of the film reminded me of the tone and style of such classic TOS episodes like 'The Trouble with Tribbles' and 'Piece of the Action'. Have to say kind of glad that Murphy bowed out, did not know that about the production, I think Catherine Hicks and her character was a great part of the movie.

    • @albatross8361
      @albatross8361 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @doberski6855: Hicks had a nicely wholesome presence which fitted in well.

  • @kevint1719
    @kevint1719 Před 5 měsíci +5

    You're right, the comedy works because it comes out of the characters. This movie is similar in many ways to Indiana Jones And The Last Crusade, which was also much more lighthearted than its predecessors and worked because the humour was genuinely funny and often delightful. That movie also made a perfect, satisfying ending to the trilogy.

    • @mroctober3657
      @mroctober3657 Před 5 měsíci +2

      I'm just relieved they never made any more movies after Crusade.

    • @TruthTellert63
      @TruthTellert63 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@mroctober3657 Indeed. I love it that the last time Indiana Jones appears on the screen is as he rides off into the sunset with his Dad, Marcus & Sallah -- absolute perfection.

  • @foley15136
    @foley15136 Před 5 měsíci +1

    It’s like they said, “Hey, let’s remake Star Trek I, but make it a comedy!”

  • @docsavage8640
    @docsavage8640 Před 6 měsíci +2

    This movie always reminded me of the light-hearted episodes like The Trouble with Tribbles and the Harry Mudd ones.

  • @videolabguy
    @videolabguy Před 5 měsíci +3

    This is my favorite of the ST films.
    The film, being shot in San Francisco, missed an absolutely golden opportunity! I would have loved to see a seen where Kirk and Spock spot a "fellow" in only chaps and wondering if he is an extraterrestrial, they follow him into a leather bar to ask him. They both enter, the door closes and instantly (sharp cut edit), they both exit looking astonishingly perplexed! Spock turns to Kirk and says, "It's life Captain. But not as we know it!"

  • @petiteminish2863
    @petiteminish2863 Před 5 měsíci +2

    This film is the perfect gateway to Star Trek: My sister used to rant about Star Trek all the time. So one day, I showed her this film. Now she can't get enough of Star Trek.

  • @degrelleholt6314
    @degrelleholt6314 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Just like in The Trouble with Tribbles, Trek always needed a light moment. They're people too with days that are just humorously strange. The 20th century bits of IV are reminiscent of City on the Edge of Forever.

  • @leebrewer7394
    @leebrewer7394 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Loved that movie, "Double dumb ass on you"

  • @Madstsone
    @Madstsone Před 6 měsíci +2

    No villain - what a concept!

  • @hatuletoh
    @hatuletoh Před 6 měsíci +2

    Remember when characters were fun, and interesting, and you a whole film could be based around basically hanging out with them for a couple hours.

  • @dantheplasticman9742
    @dantheplasticman9742 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Definitely a great closing to the best story written for Trek, in this fan's opinion. On a personal note, I love the epicness of the "BACK OFF" moment when the BoP decloaks in front of the whaler.

  • @orion45acp
    @orion45acp Před 6 měsíci +6

    An excellent film. So fun and in keeping with time travel episodes of the series.

  • @danmar007
    @danmar007 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Lots of funny one-liners. And a good romp. It's a Star Trek movie to give you some time to relax between catastrophes.

  • @thechapelperilous
    @thechapelperilous Před 5 měsíci +1

    TOS had tons of humor and camp in it. It subverted expectations and still holds up.

  • @kirbymarchbarcena
    @kirbymarchbarcena Před 5 měsíci +2

    I love the dialogues of the characters. There are so many funny dialogues and I couldn't even choose the best one.

  • @stonewbie5981
    @stonewbie5981 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I remember sitting in the theater watching the movie and when the part of Spock entering the bus, only for moments later to exit the bus concerning "exact change" there was a person sitting in the seat before me mumbling about exact change right before Spock says the statement. At that point the person was nodding his head and whispers something to his wife (I assume) and I get the impression that not just him but many in the audience were trying to guess what might happen next in everything the characters were experiencing. The audience was getting into the film. It was an enjoyable experience.

  • @sowder
    @sowder Před 6 měsíci +1

    I always thought the alien probe looked like a Slim Jim with a soccer ball coming out of it...

  • @brianoreilly3827
    @brianoreilly3827 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I was middle school age in 1986 and I really loved watching this movie over and over again.

  • @harlockmbb
    @harlockmbb Před 5 měsíci +1

    There is a comic called Debt of Honor by Claremont and Adam Hughes that show Kirk and Madeleine together.

  • @SchneeflockeMonsoon
    @SchneeflockeMonsoon Před 5 měsíci +3

    Voyage Home is good because it’s fun. Not necessarily _funny,_ but fun. They don’t take themselves too seriously (normally), and they take advantage of the characters they have. Anyone could have been captured, but they knew it had to be Chekhov.

  • @gregorde
    @gregorde Před 6 měsíci +2

    I unironically adore this movie.

  • @eddstarr2185
    @eddstarr2185 Před 5 měsíci +1

    What a joy to have seen Star Trek IV during its theatrical release, but it was watching on television years later that I realized how much Star Trek IV allowed the entire cast to have some wonderful moments. Star Trek turns the crew into family and I really enjoyed seeing everyone on the ground, mixing with the locals. Thank you for some great memories, Dave.

  • @gcanaday1
    @gcanaday1 Před 6 měsíci +3

    This is the only one I had on VHS.

  • @joelmitchell7597
    @joelmitchell7597 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The bit with the mouse is the most memorable part of the movie to me, for some reason. Well done.

  • @davesharp7315
    @davesharp7315 Před 6 měsíci +2

    IV is a nice finish for the trilogy... You can quite clearly tell where both Harve and Nick's writing begins and ends... Still love the ending spacedock scene and reveal of the "new" Constitution Class refit NCC 1701-A

  • @StormofCrows69
    @StormofCrows69 Před 5 měsíci +1

    When I was a kid, my dad (a huge Trek geek) took me to the Monterey Bay Aquarium every other weekend. Imagine my surprise when at 10 years old, seeing this movie for the first time, I saw all my favorite characters roaming around one of the places I'd spent so much of my time growing up.

  • @Ostsol
    @Ostsol Před 5 měsíci +1

    This one is special to me. It was the first film I remember seeing in theatres at age 6. Still love it today.

  • @derekmcmanus8615
    @derekmcmanus8615 Před 6 měsíci +6

    Humpback people?

    • @theelder4797
      @theelder4797 Před 6 měsíci +3

      They're oppressed and need representation!!!!

  • @richardkev3077
    @richardkev3077 Před 6 měsíci +1

    My wife refers to this Star Trek as “rebar in space”.

  • @ibrun5151
    @ibrun5151 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I loved this one! "Computer, hello computer?" I do that with my mouse at least once a month 😂

  • @jonathanulrich4905
    @jonathanulrich4905 Před 6 měsíci +3

    My first exposure to punk music that I can recall lol. It’s funny how one short part in a movie had such impact on me

  • @jamesearl389
    @jamesearl389 Před 6 měsíci +1

    “Now wait just a damn minute……..” 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Midwinter2
    @Midwinter2 Před 6 měsíci +6

    LOVE this movie!!!! Really funny. Cast are at their best.

  • @ignorethismessage
    @ignorethismessage Před 5 měsíci +1

    This movie had my all time favorite moment in Trek. The scene with Spock and Sarek at the end of the film closed a part of Spock's life that began in TOS. It made the movie for me.

  • @Cycle.every.day.
    @Cycle.every.day. Před 7 dny +1

    Love the 2/3/4 Trilogy.

  • @michaelwills1926
    @michaelwills1926 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Love all the “old” Trek stuff and this one is a gem. Could watch it anytime from any point in the movie

  • @dhaucoin
    @dhaucoin Před 5 měsíci +2

    One of the finest, most human final lines of any film, at any time.....
    'Mr Sulu, take her out. Let's see what she can do..... out there..... thataway,' with that final, vague, 'in that general direction' hand waving.
    The camera centers the crew in a fabulous 'hero shot,' and..... end credits.
    Just brilliant, and a perfect ending, not just of this film, but the 'trilogy' as well.

  • @SydBat
    @SydBat Před 5 měsíci

    I remember watching this in the theatre. When Enterprise A showed up, the whole audience applauded and cheered. It was a wonderful thing to be a part of.

  • @LouiseXSparrow
    @LouiseXSparrow Před 6 měsíci +4

    I love The Voyage Home.
    I do not love Picard Season 3 which follows on, not from this film or the Trek we love (however many 'memberberries it uses,) but from the abysmal Picard Seasons 1 & 2. It's one show and not a thing on it's own. You said in your last video we should walk away from the bad stuff, this is an excellent illustration of why we can't, people keep reminding us!

    • @bluntguy9532
      @bluntguy9532 Před 6 měsíci +1

      20 minutes of a decent story really wasn't enough for me to save the pandering ten hour member berry/call back fest that was Picard season three. In the end, we end up right back in Kurtzman Trek with a lesbian couple in command and a male Mary Sue with an entire single year at Starfleet Academy under his belt front and center for a continuation. Generally, I greatly admire Dave's, along with so many other You Tube pop culture critics/commentators, but it seems they were blinded by their hunger to find some, any, Star Trek that they didn't hate that they missed the boat on that one.