I cried when this character, who gets introduced 10 minutes before the climax and gets no development afterwards, heroically sacrifices himself to save all these people he hardly knows. Definitely a movie. Bravo, Zack.
The worst aspect of that death for me was itd like a solid 3/4 into the movie at the point where I was starting to fall asleep from boredom now I need to pretend that ray fisher can act and that I care
you mean the guy who leads the rebellion and has dedicated his life to fight (and who knows that they just killed his sister?) you not very bright padowan.. he is not sacrificing himself for them but for his life cause(and his sister)
he breaks spaceship glass, thats supposed to withstand the vacuum of space, with a spear. i also love how they set out to get an army, but end up with only 7? people. and then they are supposed to defeat the evil space navy that can orbital bombard them and now know their exact location.
@@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female It's cause he's a mediocre white guy. And mediocre white guys get LOTS and LOTS of leeway and praise. And when people who AREN'T mediocre white guys come along and do things, they get the, "yeah, that's the LEAST you could do," treatment.
Let's not forget his other original story, Suckerpunch. I was wondering if he learned more about storytelling since that little project. To be completely fair, it was great to watch as a visual piece, but from a story standpoint Suckerpunch was hollow and disjointed. Snyder movies only have interesting plots and character development when he's only allowed to lightly chop at someone else's story. 300? Watchmen? turned out fine cuz it's basically the comic story. His DC stuff? ohhhh boy. I know there are Snyderverse fans, but I ain't one of them.
I love the thought process of “Hm, so we have one Asian person in our movie. How should we make her unique?” “How about we make her the only character that fights with swords?” “Yeah, and make her super obsessed with honor and stuff like that.”
The most outrageous part, Charlie didn't fully explained that scene of a character jumping, it starts with a 75% slow mo, then a 50% then a 25% when the jump happens, it's so ridiculous, they really slowed a slow motion scene
I find it hilarious how Rebel Moon advertises itself as this original piece of work, but it literally feels like an AI saw Star Wars, Seven Samurai, Harry Potter, and Dune and then tried to make a movie from those four.
what i find funny is when he was describing one of the generals where a guy said "oh thats THE general? the genius one", i instantly remembered a documentary where they said they tried NOT to do that exact thing, and to instead show the characters importance, rather than have it stated in passing. i think it was a star wars documentary 😭
I hated the captain/general guy they found at the colosseum. It made 0 sense to me. They hyped up finding this guy, even formed a team to go and get him. But then when they find him he’s just drunk, and then with 0 explanation given to him (just half of a motivational speech) decides to join the team. 0 explanation of anything done here. Just caveman language. “We need captain” “We find captain” “Captain join us “ “Okay 👍”
The rule changes of RT makes it almost impossible for movies to have a bad audience score. Like 65% is really low now. Even god awful movies now have like a 80% audience score now. They have made that metric a joke.
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Imagine if everyone in team avatar was convinced to join aang by a 50 speech check and then none of them ever said anything to anyone ever again. That's kinda what the movie felt like to me...
50 speech check??? a bit generous. Main character: * giving a 10 minutes speech about how she cannot love or be loved because the big evil empire beat that out of her * a few moments lateh Main character: * giving a speech about how the big evil empire encouraged everyone to fall in love and be loved as the way to draw strength in battle * ... wat?
Someone on Critical Drinker's channel said this movie is exactly what he would expect to see if AI wrote and directed a movie, and the more I hear about this film, the more it seems to be appropriate.
That’s how you know as a filmmaker that your movie really failed, when regular people find themselves agreeing with the chuds on how bad your movie was.
Oh my god! That's exactly what I thought! Zach was part of a really cool D&D campaign but all he remembered was the fights. There is freaking warforged, a hippogriff, and a drider for crying out loud! And the Hawkshaws are literally LoTR Uruk-hai. AKA D&D Orcs. How does he cover it up? Female Drider! Raven hippogriff! And... Make it in space! The more I think about it, the more this is D&D in Space and just changed enough to not violate copyright. The tentacle monster in the bar? That was an Illithid in the campaign. The fact that Farmer Hero and Bad Guy turned Good Guy Hero didn't see that the DM PC was evil and was literally being paid off by the Orc Bounty Hunters when they walked into the bar? The PCs both FAILED their Perception Checks!!!! The DM just went with it when they picked him out to start talking to so what should have been an obvious coward bad guy "Helped" only when the PCs already won the fight.
Strangely enough it DOES start in a tavern. A very horny tavern where the village mayor is like "everyone needs to have sex tonight so the crops will grow good".
the movie is amazing because the boring feeling you feel while watching it leads to despair, so you can really feel how bad the characters are feeling.
I knew from just the "one of every kind" cast this movie would be terrible they usually are glad it's still proving as a useful tool to avoid shit movies lol
Even better, villain "dies" in mysterious way, but somehow, Palpatine returned. Really blew my socks off when Rebel Moon did it, totally didn't see that one coming.
Funny how the “it’s woke” crowd have flipped the script for this movie - - usually they’d be livid about a female protagonist - but they stfu when it’s Snyder for some reason
@@firstlast9846 or... maybe the female character doesn't feel like a girl boss (I haven't watched the movie just going off by assumptions) I wish people will stop bringing politics in everything. There was a time when we had movies like Kill Bill and no one complained about a female character beating men in a fight or that it wasn't feminine enough
Dirty barnacles is my favorite lol I used gobbledygook except I put a "p" on the end and say gobbledygoop for weird, bad food.😅 And for describing Gwyneth Paltrow's "health care" crap. 😂
I loved it when the guy who owns the slave/prince says he'll let him go if he can tame the griffin that he also owns. It makes no sense for him to do it and he could have done it any time he wanted, but because the protagonist girl showed up he'll do it now so he can tack on an agreement that she'll be his slave if the slave/prince fails... an agreement that he could never have enforced anyway... best movie ever.
And then the slaveowner fucking dies. It felt like a boy telling me a "cool dream" he had you're just like "wow, cool," nodding In response. Probably one of the most mindless parts of the movie. And then the guy they freed contributes nothing the rest of the movie.
The way that scene should have gone is that the protagonists should have gone on a side quest together to capture a rare and valuable creature that the slave owner wanted. In return he would release the dude from his debt. It would give the protagnists time to bond, the dude to show his skills by taming the wild creature and the farmers a chance to prove to him that they're worth helping. The pilot would refuse and just hang back at the compound while they're off risking their lives, hinting at his questionable loyality by showing it rather than telling us. Also, the slave owner would live, because fundamentally he's a business man and he honors business agreements. Skeevy and greedy, yes, but not cartoonishly evil.
It's a shame to hear that "Rebel Moon" didn't live up to its potential. I was initially excited for the film, but I'm starting to see why critics have been so harsh. It sounds like there are a lot of missed opportunities and underdeveloped elements that could have made it a more compelling sci-fi spectacle.
I agree. The lack of character development and world-building really hampers the film's overall impact. It feels like a collection of cool visuals and action sequences, but there's no substance to keep you engaged.
I'm always a bit wary of movies that rely too heavily on references to other franchises. It can come across as lazy and unoriginal, and in this case, it seems like "Rebel Moon" failed to find its own identity.
@@user-x7dc2pq7nyeah that's an idiotic statement lol 😂 Ya' ever consider that maybe he did watch it and just has similar thoughts, feelings, and opinions as his favorite youtuber dum dum? 🤔
fun fact: snyder actually pitched this to lucasfilm as a star wars movie. when it got rejected, he tried to turn it into a video game or spinoff, until it became what it is now
I actually thoroughly enjoyed watching this movie! From the first scene where she huffs the soil to the very end, my husband and I were making up dialogue and were in stitches the whole time. 😂
@@steecheeful Yeah, when she started sniffing the soil like it was cocaine, I knew this was very unlikely to turn out well... a seven-year-old's idea of what it's like being a farmer.
This was a really good movie, I enjoyed it while doing the dishes, taking care of my property taxes, calling my car finance company, canceling my gym membership, and other tasks throughout the day.
One thing I found really weird. At the beginning, the movie introduced that one young soldier who helps Kora stop the lady from getting raped. He then just-vanishes-from the rest of the movie.
They were pre-planning for a part 2, and probably even a part 3. I don't understand how most people can't figure that out. Otherwise the movie would have needed to be 6-7 hours long. Theres way too many characters and info for it to be 1 deep movie.
@@in_vas_por8810I don’t understand why people use the “it’s setting up for the next part” to excuse a 2.5 hour movie from feeling incomplete. Each movie should feel like a complete story even if they are connected.
@@in_vas_por8810 I understand there is a part 2. However, the movie didn’t HINT at what happened to the soldier after the attempted rape scene. It introduced him, made him a sympathetic character, had him take part in a big event, then just forgot about him. The least the movie could’ve done was explain his sudden absence. For example, when Kora is leaving to get help, it could show her asking the soldier to watch the village while she’s gone. Or maybe just a quick scene that shows him leaving the village after the attack. But nope. Nothing. He just vanished with no explanation.
Kinda felt like they pulled a lot of stuff out of 40k. The look of the imperial officers, those medics at the end resemble technomancers or tech priests, the wording of things like the academy militarum. I dont think it's the worst thing I've seen, definitely far from the best (still better than the sequels iykyk). The film pulled a lot of inspiration out of lots of other media seemingly, not just star wars. But I think the biggest thing I hate is that the movie was advertised essentially to be star wars but with sex, gore and cursing. This all felt very PG13 to me when I think it could've benefited from being the rated R experience they were selling to people. Apparently the rated R cut will be coming later but I think it's hilarious that zack deliberately chose to make this version the first impression rather than the rated R cut. It's a bad look and the real reason this film should be criticized. They specifically watered down this version so people would be drawn to the rated R cut in the future. It's like selling a DLC of a movie. Absolutely hilarious.
This movie felt like it was AI generated. Like whenever you ask ChatGPT to write a paragraph for you and it gives you like 6-10 sub-paragraphs with no connection to eachother. Thats how the locations and the structure of the entire movie felt
It was initially a passion project inspired by a plane conversation thirty years ago between Zack Snyder and Kurt Johnstad wondering what would happen if Seven Samurai and Star Wars were combined. The idea was initially pitched to Lucasfilm as an R rated Star Wars spinoff, but rejected. After years of on and off development, (ultimately spurred on by Lockdown) he ended up pitching it to Netflix to try and be a competitor, with an R rated cut and spin offs in the pipeline. So less AI and more people trying to compete with Star Wars by putting their own spin on it.
@@tompotter8703well they were really late to the punch because A. Star Wars has already done the Seven Samurai plot at least 3 times first starting back in the 70’s, and B. Battle Beyond the Stars also combined SW and Seven Samurai back in the 80’s and even though it’s low budget and has that Roger Corman cheesiness to it, it looks way more charming than this.
@@oneinathousand2156also this supposedly being in development for 30 years doesn’t excuse any on the problems, I mean look at Duke nukem forever, game took 14 years to make and was a massive disappointment
@@leviticusprime4904 I don’t think it was in development for 30 years straight, since Zack was working on other stuff. I beginning to think he smelled blood in the water due to Disney Star Wars projects being less than stellar and decided to take advantage of it by taking his own idea and selling it to Netflix (who isn’t exactly known for their quality control) but forgetting to make the characters interact or be likeable. Not to mention splitting the movie in half and adding constant slo-mo to pad it out.
The funniest part for me was the rebel dude running up to the turret and it’s supposed to be super badass - but he takes super small steps and it looks super goofy lmao
I saw that and it kinda took me out of the scene, but then I tried to rationalize it. He was running up an incline so maybe he would have to take smaller steps, but maybe it was the angle it was shot from that made it look like not as much of an incline causing the steps to look so goofy. Edit: Fixing spelling mistakes
Watching this movie felt like listening someone tell a story through a series of "This happens and then, and then, and then..." with uhmms and pauses here and there
I know these videos are for people who already watched the movies and can relate to Charlie's misery, but for me they're just a great way to find out what movies I should never watch, before it's too late.
After watching a movie like this, you can never go back to being your former innocent self. Also--just going to shamelessly plug--I'm hoping some of you might like the music I make too :)
Charlie, I love you and all. I really do. Your content slaps every time, and I rarely disagree with you, even now, I agree. But I kinda wish you'd have made an effort to make your content focus on something positive, whatever it was. I don't want this to be looked at as hate... You're by far the realist and most wholesome creator out there. But I do low key wish you'd have left out any negativity for beyond Boxing Day at least.
Charlie... with a grey shirt. Never in my time of living would I have thought of witnessing such greatness as the combination of black and white is presented to our eyes.
This movei felt like it had no writers, no director and no storyboarders and that they had 5 storyboard slides per scene that were all made by special effects crew of dubious quality.
How could you miss the classic interaction of "im a slave." "Youre a slave?" "Yes im a slave" "why?" "Im a slave because of my bad choices" "wanna join me?" "No im a slave brb im gonna stop being a slave. Okay im ready to join you"
or how the general basically just get washed and then joins them coz revenge. the hyype him up endlessly as an arena fighter so i thought we would get a generic scene of them seeing him fight in the arena, but no they just WASH him.
@@weedling3552 woulda been great if we saw him being suspicious of that one guy and then coming up with some plan to stop the ambush/betrayal to show off how much of a "genius tactician" he was. Instead every time he was on screen I was just like oh yeah he's in this movie
yeah but that would have required some scenes with the crew actually interacting. instead we got more slow mo. or during the ambush he could have called out some orders to organize the rebel, to target specific threats, call for them to take cover, ANYTHING, but i cant even remember him DOING anything during that entire fight. he gets washed, joins, kind of is the background and then appears again when they reach the village. the wasting of the characters is just beyond anything ive ever seen. i dont even think the sword lady did anything during the ambush fight. not even in the background. you dont see her cutting guys in half with cool moves in the background, nothing. they just pop in and out of existence.@@reidwilliams9970
Yeah I remember my mom and sister went to see Old a few years ago and they commented on how bad the acting was and I had to tell them it wasn't the actors fault, Shyamalan just likes to make his actors embarrass themselves
If i had a nickel for every time there was a zombie baby in his movies. I would have two whole nickels which isn't a lot but it is weird that it has happen more then once.
If a space rebellion sounds interesting to anyone you should just read the Red Rising series by Pierce Brown. Space action, cool settings, great world building and an interesting group of characters. It’s all there
I went to an early screening for Part 2 today and it was just farming and talking for 45 minutes 😭 I fell asleep on a movie at a theater for the first time in my life.
This movie feels like a script overview that was supposed to get sent to a writer for touch ups and to flesh out the characters more, but on the way over Zach intercepted it and decided to fill it as is, making up for lost details with slomo
@@kitsmashing3267 That's actually Snyder cut a bazillion time. He himself admits (proudly, it seems) that most of his movies have a director's cut. Supposedly, there is a director's cut for his last zombie movie... Wtf? I knew of the Watchmen's Director Cut, also BvS (lol) and JL (unfortunate context and weird output overall).
To me it was like what outsiders must hear when my friends and I try to explain one of our D&D campaigns. There is cool introductions of characters, who had so much life, but you can't explain that to somebody in the three to five minutes they'll listen to you about a game you played. So it just comes out... Flat.
My favorite part is them showing the Evil Empire being able to completely destroy the surface of the planet from orbit, but the main plot is them getting together to help the villagers fight back. Then in the trailer for Part Two they show the Good Guys training the villagers on how to fight a ground war.
Yes! I never understood this nonsense of getting a 'team' to defend the village, when it could just by wiped off the face of the planet. I mean, unless you have a Superman defending it or something.
i be the evil empire wont fire a single one of the low orbit guns at them, just rush into a senseless melee, where they can be easily beaten by the super solder protagonist in slowmo.
I liked the part when it turned into How to Train Your Dragon for five minutes and then it never pays off that plot-point in the final battle and the character who was in that scene does nothing but run around shirtless. Also it was nice of Anthony Hopkins to read the Star Wars title crawl as narration so Snyder could avoid being sued.
well it seems like it's not actually ripping off just star wars. It is also ripping off warhammer 40k, even more blatantly than star wars. that review is extremely accurate
It's the plot and characters of Kurasawa's Seven Samurai, but worse in every conceivable way and with a Warhammer 40k aesthetic. (Note: The 1st star wars movie was Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress mashed together with WWII combat films)
@@hypothalapotamus5293 honestly if it's trying to have a w40k aesthetic it's missed the mark completely. It's got a standard scifi universe, sure, but nothing about 40k is standard scifi
the way charlie describes this movie makes it seem like watching someone’s playthrough of baldurs gate except they never interact with their party members
My main problem was that the main protagonist acting was so bad, i didn’t believe a word she said and it brought down so many other characters acting despite some good actors being in it.
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc I mean, there's nothing wrong with not liking something, and reporting on it. Many people do this, and it doesn't make him a man-child for giving his honest opinion. I'm guessing you have something against him personally, which is why you left such a bad faith argument against his opinions on this film.
This sounds like when I tried to make an “original story” by stealing ideas from shows I liked in 6th grade. The main character was a Mary sue who everyone liked unless a character was evil. And a random spy crew of prince and princesses were being collected to join for no reason. They also all had the same personality. 😭
About having slow-mo to fill runtime, we had this group project in school where we had to make a video and we had a minimum length requirement. When we recorded, it wasn't long enough. So, we just added slow-mo to the video to meet the requirements knowing we wouldn't get a good grade.
seriously its the same sort of griddy dark color toned movies since the beginning, it worked for watchmen and 300 because those were R-rated gore filled movies that fit his tone of work its also the reason other movies like sin city worked in black and white with reds for solely the blood, a PG-13 movie having it is the same as if cocomelon having it because neither can fit that tone without being R-rated.
I was actively looking for something new that sets itself apart from Star Wars.. and the only thing was : This universe has sexual assault. Honestly it feels kind of gross how much he puts it into his movies for edge factor
Strange enough, how the characters in Rebel Moon interact, and the way it was written remind me of the same impression I had when playing FF12 back in the days.
After watching the movie, my friend Adam told me “Zack Snyder is great at aesthetics and visual worldbuilding, but terrible at story/plot.” And that perfectly encompassed my reaction to Rebel Moon. I’m so glad the spider lady scene got mentioned. That scene was rad. It felt like it was taken from the middle of a better story. The lightsaber wielder had this real sense of honor to her that we just never got to see. She could’ve been an awesome character in a story about her. Additionally, in the beginning there’s this robot soldier, and we hear about how the robot soldiers used to belong to the king and ever since the king died they won’t pick up a weapon. Later, a woman who was nice to the robot is getting assaulted, and something shifts in the robot and he’s able to pick up a gun and shoot the guy grabbing her. That could’ve been another awesome character in a story that was actually about them.
Jimmy (the robot voiced by Anthony Hopkins) had the most personality out of all the characters, by far. This is despite it only really being in a few scenes in the beginning of the movie. I wanted Jimmy to be the main character.
Totally agree plus I really liked their takes on different tech and aliens throughout. I feel like they should have hired these people to make the background stuff for the new star wars stuff cause they did a way better job.
The way I can describe this movie is if imagine the first Star Wars where the whole movie is Luke and Obi-Wan trying to convince Han and Chewbacca to defeat the empire but the fight only happens during the last 30 minutes with lots of slo-mo.
why would you be pissed. The 40k content is so limited that anything even remotely in that realm would be appreciated. I haven't seen it BtW, just questioning the logic of your comment
@@iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137 As you've not seen it I'll let you know that outside of using key visuals and names it's still very much a StarWars film and doesn't really follow any of the themes. So it's a 40k film in only the most basic surface level way. 40K fans dont need to appreciate this when the Amazon project has now been signed off and much better films exist.
@@MSpotatoes Oh look, a sad pathetic Rey-Hater...how nice, here, get a cookie for you oh so deep and interesting comment that has no value at all and only shows how bad your taste in characters, writing and general film making is...
I put it on because I'd vaguely heard about it and thought it was a show, not a movie. After realising the first episode wasn't ending I thought maybe it was like 3-4 really big episodes. Then I finally realised it was a movie. Literally felt like they made a TV show, cut all the episodes in half and then glued them together.
I actually loved the way he wove Niven, PKD, and among many others, Star Wars references together. It must’ve been meant to be eye candy for us oldsters like Ready Player One. I recognized the multitude of tropes he was extracting ideas from and enjoyed it for what it was.
@@shanedsouza189 I never said “good” lol, but get your point. While I resist the “there are only so many good ideas” excuse for creative apathy, I don’t mind occasional comfort food entertainment. People have been laughing at the same jokes for a long time, too! In the Middle East long ago poets used to battle rap about ED. That said I have a lot of screen time to fill. Original ideas well executed are a rare joy.
Charlie perfectly captured my feelings on Rebel Moon. Man, I really wanted to like this movie...but it's genuinely awful...I think Snyder really needs to re-evaluate his approach to filmmaking.
I've only been saying this for years. He's never been a good filmmaker. Most of his films have the nuance and subtlety of an edgy 14 year old's fanfic.
@@nate.infinitywhich is great sometimes but not often. His only entertaining films to me are 300, Watchman, Dawn of the Dead, and sucker punch. And none of those are for the writing.
@@nate.infinity lol, you're not wrong... but there's a place for his type of movies when done well, like 300 and Watchmen. Those are genuinely fun and enjoyable movies. I think it's possible he could direct stuff like that and be very successful again. The problem is he keeps trying to touch a pen and getting involved with the scripts. There seems to be a very clear pattern of the more involved he is with the story/script, the worse the movie ends up being. On a completely different note, I'm blown away by how delusional and insane his fans are. I'm shocked at how hard they are defending this film and some of the wild shit they're using as a defense. Someone legit told me... "I'm not sure why you're hating it so much, his daughter died, give him a break." They cite movies from over a decade ago as proof that he's still a good director. They say the Snyder cut "saved Justice League", which is crazy because all that cut did was turn a bad movie into a mid one, while costing the studio another 70 million to make. I simply don't understand why they defend him so hard.
I totally feel some of the Star Wars writing but honestly my first thought comparison wise was Warhammer 40k -Fascist human empire that is literally called "The Imperium" -Human sect obsessed with technology and augmenting themselves with it literally called "The Mechanicum" -Human leaders name is literally Belisarus (Belisarus Cawl being the leader of The Mechanichum in 40k) -The Ecclesiarchy within this human empire is and the way they act, literally the same feeling as the Inquisition from 40k. Rebel Moon even has these weird priest dudes (who literally seem to do nothing the entire movie) in all red who further reinforce that vibe. And that's just what I remember. To be honest I watched it right as it came out and barely remember much outside the basic premise of the story and the similarities I noticed. The movie was pretty unmemorable so I'm honestly even struggling to remember all the characters names. There could be a lot of other blatant similarities I totally missed. I will say I did enjoy the world/setting in Rebel Moon though, but I love Warhammer 40k so I guess that's to be expected lol
this is the same vibe i got. knowing warhammer 40k lore, i literally couldn’t put it past my mind every time they referenced something from 40k. for example the robot they unboxed in the scene where the imperial-guard-looking soldier holding a reskin of bolt pistol asks who the robot is, and he answers “The Mechanicus Militarum”… like what?!?!
To me, it felt like it was collecting parts it liked from other properties. The bad Imperium people of 40k, the vague plot points of Star wars, lightsabers, "hyperlaunch" instead of hyper speed, the Dreadnaught honestly looks like the Spaceship Yamato. Hell my mom said the MC's history and character was *literally MCU Gamora*
honestly the way charlie described the plot of this feels like it should have been a game instead of a movie. Maybe not a modern AAA but definitely could see something like this coming out during the 360 era and being a banger RPG
Mass Effect. You're thinking of Mass Effect 3 specifically. Epic threat destroys the main character's home, they rally the team, and then confront the big-bad.
Unironically Zach Snyder would probably be a fire game director based on the way he likes to shoot and direct his movies. He would just need to not write the story of the game too 😂
@@bctalkspod His main issue is the length of his writing which might actually benefit him if he makes it into a game lmfao. Imagine being able to DO ANYTHING during the 3+ hours of story he's trying to tell (in movie time)??? Actually enjoyable....I see why kids need a video where there's a fidget spinner or random shit get destroyed on tiktok...it's so god damn boring to sit there watching such slow, boring story telling.
They even had a weird edit of Charlie Hunnam's character being killed, as soon as the main farmer guy shoots him it instantly cuts to the big action scene
Me and my fiance started watching this the other night and he fell asleep during it lmao. The best thing I can say about it is that the CGI is pretty good
Did anybody notice that the teenage solider at the start who helped the main girl fight off the group of solders in her village just disappeared after that
I cried when this character, who gets introduced 10 minutes before the climax and gets no development afterwards, heroically sacrifices himself to save all these people he hardly knows. Definitely a movie. Bravo, Zack.
The worst aspect of that death for me was itd like a solid 3/4 into the movie at the point where I was starting to fall asleep from boredom now I need to pretend that ray fisher can act and that I care
Finally, a sacrifice scene of a character that I can be invested in even less than Holdo from The Last Jedi.
you mean the guy who leads the rebellion and has dedicated his life to fight (and who knows that they just killed his sister?) you not very bright padowan.. he is not sacrificing himself for them but for his life cause(and his sister)
I cried too. From sheer laughter.
he breaks spaceship glass, thats supposed to withstand the vacuum of space, with a spear.
i also love how they set out to get an army, but end up with only 7? people.
and then they are supposed to defeat the evil space navy that can orbital bombard them and now know their exact location.
“It’s like Zach Snyder forgot to write their personalities”
Implying he ever knew how to write characters with personality
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Zack Snyder films has always been overrated AF.
@@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female It's cause he's a mediocre white guy. And mediocre white guys get LOTS and LOTS of leeway and praise. And when people who AREN'T mediocre white guys come along and do things, they get the, "yeah, that's the LEAST you could do," treatment.
Let's not forget his other original story, Suckerpunch. I was wondering if he learned more about storytelling since that little project.
To be completely fair, it was great to watch as a visual piece, but from a story standpoint Suckerpunch was hollow and disjointed.
Snyder movies only have interesting plots and character development when he's only allowed to lightly chop at someone else's story. 300? Watchmen? turned out fine cuz it's basically the comic story. His DC stuff? ohhhh boy. I know there are Snyderverse fans, but I ain't one of them.
@merphul I absolutely was just going to mention suckerpunch lol he absolutely forgot to write any character personality or bonding 😂😂
I love the thought process of “Hm, so we have one Asian person in our movie. How should we make her unique?” “How about we make her the only character that fights with swords?” “Yeah, and make her super obsessed with honor and stuff like that.”
The fucking song that comes on during her fight scene oh my gooood that felt like, such a poor choice.
But does she have the mandatory purple hair streak?
reminds me of the asian lady in Suicide Squad.
I love how stereotypical they get in the name of representation.
If you only watched movies you'd think asian people were allergic to guns lmao
@@zogwort1522also love how her name is literally "sword" lmaooo
I am grateful to Zack Snyder for making something that I can heartily recommend to people whose time I don't respect.
he already made Army of the Dead tho
@@wiiinkat last it was entertaining in some parts unlike this piece of shit. (Genuinely stuff with zombies are fun most of the time)
aotd is ten times better@@wiiink
@@wiiink Co Written by Gunn, To Whom Cult hate for unnecessary reason
The most outrageous part, Charlie didn't fully explained that scene of a character jumping, it starts with a 75% slow mo, then a 50% then a 25% when the jump happens, it's so ridiculous, they really slowed a slow motion scene
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@@SphereKnowledge no one cares
When in the movie I needa see thi
Sounds like a movie designed to take advantage of Netflix's 2x playback speed option
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I find it hilarious how Rebel Moon advertises itself as this original piece of work, but it literally feels like an AI saw Star Wars, Seven Samurai, Harry Potter, and Dune and then tried to make a movie from those four.
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I'd say Star Wars, Dune and Warhammer 40K.
Way too many ads sprayed out all over the place for it as well
it was supposed to be a star wars movie
what i find funny is when he was describing one of the generals where a guy said "oh thats THE general? the genius one", i instantly remembered a documentary where they said they tried NOT to do that exact thing, and to instead show the characters importance, rather than have it stated in passing. i think it was a star wars documentary 😭
I hated the captain/general guy they found at the colosseum.
It made 0 sense to me. They hyped up finding this guy, even formed a team to go and get him. But then when they find him he’s just drunk, and then with 0 explanation given to him (just half of a motivational speech) decides to join the team.
0 explanation of anything done here. Just caveman language.
“We need captain”
“We find captain”
“Captain join us “
“Okay 👍”
And then he doesn't do anything for the rest of the movie
See that actually sounds funny. I would probably enjoy the movie if it was written like that.
The saddest part is he's probably the best acotr in that movie, as well as their only semi-big name, and then he just has such a boring role.
I really wanted to watch this with my girlfriend and we finally did. After it was done I told her "I'm sorry, I thought this was gonna be different"
Why did you expect something good when Zack Snyder made it?
Different how? Which terrible movies did you take her to see before this one?
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I love how the fans accused reviewbombing when 65% audience score is very much proof that they themselves have reviewbombed that movie.
The rule changes of RT makes it almost impossible for movies to have a bad audience score. Like 65% is really low now. Even god awful movies now have like a 80% audience score now. They have made that metric a joke.
@@bobross1829what rule changes?
Oh Charlie, just wait until you watch the second one. It's even worse.
my uncle and i had a drinking game whenever there was a slow motion sequence happening, we woke up in a hospital
At least you didn't have to finish the movie 😂
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Imagine if everyone in team avatar was convinced to join aang by a 50 speech check and then none of them ever said anything to anyone ever again. That's kinda what the movie felt like to me...
woah. that sounds terrible
50 speech check??? a bit generous.
Main character: * giving a 10 minutes speech about how she cannot love or be loved because the big evil empire beat that out of her *
a few moments lateh
Main character: * giving a speech about how the big evil empire encouraged everyone to fall in love and be loved as the way to draw strength in battle *
... wat?
Sounds like when you finish a videogame characters storyline. "Wow we're best friends now. I love you... you will never speak to me again."
So, exactly what happened in the M Night Shyamalan movie?
@@jackthelucario What movie? There's never been an ATLA movie before..... 👀
I remember seeing a poster at a theater when this movie was about to come out and i thought it was a new Star Wars spinoff.
Someone on Critical Drinker's channel said this movie is exactly what he would expect to see if AI wrote and directed a movie, and the more I hear about this film, the more it seems to be appropriate.
God critical drinker is cringe. I hate to be on the same side as him for a change
@@anenemystand5582 Might have to watch this movie until I like it just so I can still disagree with stinker.
That’s how you know as a filmmaker that your movie really failed, when regular people find themselves agreeing with the chuds on how bad your movie was.
@@anenemystand5582 Well, you know what they say, drunken clock is still right twice a day. Even if said clock is a bad film critic.
@@anenemystand5582trust me, no one on our side wants any progtard near us. It's mutual.
This thing honestly sounds like a session of DnD but without the roleplaying
Oh my god! That's exactly what I thought! Zach was part of a really cool D&D campaign but all he remembered was the fights. There is freaking warforged, a hippogriff, and a drider for crying out loud! And the Hawkshaws are literally LoTR Uruk-hai. AKA D&D Orcs.
How does he cover it up? Female Drider! Raven hippogriff! And... Make it in space!
The more I think about it, the more this is D&D in Space and just changed enough to not violate copyright. The tentacle monster in the bar? That was an Illithid in the campaign.
The fact that Farmer Hero and Bad Guy turned Good Guy Hero didn't see that the DM PC was evil and was literally being paid off by the Orc Bounty Hunters when they walked into the bar? The PCs both FAILED their Perception Checks!!!! The DM just went with it when they picked him out to start talking to so what should have been an obvious coward bad guy "Helped" only when the PCs already won the fight.
That sounds like a grave insult to hardworking GMs everywhere.
It's literally 40k lol.
In DnD terms. It's like doing a really short side quest to pick up a companion, then placing them in camp afterwards and never speaking to them again.
Strangely enough it DOES start in a tavern. A very horny tavern where the village mayor is like "everyone needs to have sex tonight so the crops will grow good".
the movie is amazing because the boring feeling you feel while watching it leads to despair, so you can really feel how bad the characters are feeling.
Yeah but when I started drinking they didn't talk back
Despair!?
@@Azmania3000TBH, Drinking is probably the only way to watch a Zach Snyder movie and not cringe.
@chrise8275 300 is a good movie. I'll die on that hill.
Not even a bottle of wine could save this one though. Whew what a stinker!
I knew from just the "one of every kind" cast this movie would be terrible they usually are glad it's still proving as a useful tool to avoid shit movies lol
The battleship cruiser thing has zero defenses against fighters. It just has cannons and looks like a luxury cruise.
The concept of writing a character is foreign to Zack Snyder.
This movie had every single trope imaginable. From the space Nazis, all the way down to the bad guy falling off a really high platform at the end.
Even better, villain "dies" in mysterious way, but somehow, Palpatine returned. Really blew my socks off when Rebel Moon did it, totally didn't see that one coming.
They are all saying completely derivative.
Funny how the “it’s woke” crowd have flipped the script for this movie - - usually they’d be livid about a female protagonist - but they stfu when it’s Snyder for some reason
@@firstlast9846 imagine taking anyone that unironically uses the word woke to insult something seriously
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or... maybe the female character doesn't feel like a girl boss (I haven't watched the movie just going off by assumptions)
I wish people will stop bringing politics in everything. There was a time when we had movies like Kill Bill and no one complained about a female character beating men in a fight or that it wasn't feminine enough
When Charlie uses the term "Gobbledygook", everything feels right in the world.
It’s been stuck in my head for 2 weeks now😂
gob bloody gook!
Charlie the type of guy to say "Gee Willikers" unironically
@@v1sudopretty sure he has lol
Dirty barnacles is my favorite lol
I used gobbledygook except I put a "p" on the end and say gobbledygoop for weird, bad food.😅 And for describing Gwyneth Paltrow's "health care" crap. 😂
I loved it when the guy who owns the slave/prince says he'll let him go if he can tame the griffin that he also owns. It makes no sense for him to do it and he could have done it any time he wanted, but because the protagonist girl showed up he'll do it now so he can tack on an agreement that she'll be his slave if the slave/prince fails... an agreement that he could never have enforced anyway... best movie ever.
And then the slaveowner fucking dies. It felt like a boy telling me a "cool dream" he had you're just like "wow, cool," nodding In response. Probably one of the most mindless parts of the movie. And then the guy they freed contributes nothing the rest of the movie.
The way that scene should have gone is that the protagonists should have gone on a side quest together to capture a rare and valuable creature that the slave owner wanted. In return he would release the dude from his debt. It would give the protagnists time to bond, the dude to show his skills by taming the wild creature and the farmers a chance to prove to him that they're worth helping. The pilot would refuse and just hang back at the compound while they're off risking their lives, hinting at his questionable loyality by showing it rather than telling us.
Also, the slave owner would live, because fundamentally he's a business man and he honors business agreements. Skeevy and greedy, yes, but not cartoonishly evil.
It's a shame to hear that "Rebel Moon" didn't live up to its potential. I was initially excited for the film, but I'm starting to see why critics have been so harsh. It sounds like there are a lot of missed opportunities and underdeveloped elements that could have made it a more compelling sci-fi spectacle.
I agree. The lack of character development and world-building really hampers the film's overall impact. It feels like a collection of cool visuals and action sequences, but there's no substance to keep you engaged.
I'm always a bit wary of movies that rely too heavily on references to other franchises. It can come across as lazy and unoriginal, and in this case, it seems like "Rebel Moon" failed to find its own identity.
Wait, you are starting to see it? You did not see it when you watched the movie?
@@cameronica his favorite youtuber said it was bad so now he has to agree lol
@@user-x7dc2pq7nyeah that's an idiotic statement lol 😂 Ya' ever consider that maybe he did watch it and just has similar thoughts, feelings, and opinions as his favorite youtuber dum dum? 🤔
fun fact: snyder actually pitched this to lucasfilm as a star wars movie. when it got rejected, he tried to turn it into a video game or spinoff, until it became what it is now
From what I've heard it feels like off brand Rogue One
A bimonthly curated box of snacks.
@@nastynamed1892it's basically seven samurai put inside star wars with some 40k aesthetics and lore.
Video game would have made a lot more sense
Probably the best description of the movie ever @@PeachDragon_
"Playing with action figures" is the perfect way to describe how Zack Snyder does movies.
Only if you've literally never watched a film of his.
@@octogigas even if you think thats not accurate his movies are the definition of all style no substance
@@jromero9795 Let me guess, you think Marvel movies have substance.
@@octogigas marvel and DC are fucking dumb too, if I'm shitting on Snyder I'm 100% shitting on capeshit
@@octogigasyour opinion isn't popular I'm sorry
I actually thoroughly enjoyed watching this movie! From the first scene where she huffs the soil to the very end, my husband and I were making up dialogue and were in stitches the whole time. 😂
That opening scene was so bizarre 😂 I knew I was in for a treat
@@steecheeful Yeah, when she started sniffing the soil like it was cocaine, I knew this was very unlikely to turn out well... a seven-year-old's idea of what it's like being a farmer.
This was a really good movie, I enjoyed it while doing the dishes, taking care of my property taxes, calling my car finance company, canceling my gym membership, and other tasks throughout the day.
One thing I found really weird. At the beginning, the movie introduced that one young soldier who helps Kora stop the lady from getting raped. He then just-vanishes-from the rest of the movie.
I completely forgot about that guy.
Don't worry I'm sure they won't forget him for part 2
They were pre-planning for a part 2, and probably even a part 3. I don't understand how most people can't figure that out. Otherwise the movie would have needed to be 6-7 hours long. Theres way too many characters and info for it to be 1 deep movie.
@@in_vas_por8810I don’t understand why people use the “it’s setting up for the next part” to excuse a 2.5 hour movie from feeling incomplete. Each movie should feel like a complete story even if they are connected.
@@in_vas_por8810 I understand there is a part 2. However, the movie didn’t HINT at what happened to the soldier after the attempted rape scene. It introduced him, made him a sympathetic character, had him take part in a big event, then just forgot about him. The least the movie could’ve done was explain his sudden absence. For example, when Kora is leaving to get help, it could show her asking the soldier to watch the village while she’s gone. Or maybe just a quick scene that shows him leaving the village after the attack. But nope. Nothing. He just vanished with no explanation.
Zack Snyder originally pitched Rebel moon as a Star Wars movie to Disney & Lucasfilm. They said no, and now I can see why.
Considering the state of Star wars, if this was a Star wars film, it would be even worse.
@@PlahaKumar That's impossible. It's always rock bottom.
Hell even Warner Bros, his former home studio, rejected the pitch as well
They probably learnt from how bad is Ahsoka
@@HowToChangeNameit was pitched before Ahsoka
Don’t forget, the anti-climatic lunge of the Bloodax character. Where he totally misses only to attempt again in slow motion.
Kinda felt like they pulled a lot of stuff out of 40k. The look of the imperial officers, those medics at the end resemble technomancers or tech priests, the wording of things like the academy militarum. I dont think it's the worst thing I've seen, definitely far from the best (still better than the sequels iykyk). The film pulled a lot of inspiration out of lots of other media seemingly, not just star wars. But I think the biggest thing I hate is that the movie was advertised essentially to be star wars but with sex, gore and cursing. This all felt very PG13 to me when I think it could've benefited from being the rated R experience they were selling to people. Apparently the rated R cut will be coming later but I think it's hilarious that zack deliberately chose to make this version the first impression rather than the rated R cut. It's a bad look and the real reason this film should be criticized. They specifically watered down this version so people would be drawn to the rated R cut in the future. It's like selling a DLC of a movie. Absolutely hilarious.
Nah this is genuinely way worse than the sequels.
@@Binzob Maybe the force awakens and the rise of skywalker are better. But I'd take rebel moon over TLJ any day of the week.
@@hoverson9310 In terms of plot I think that's a fair pick though I disagree.
Reminded me alot of The Chronicles of Riddick
This movie felt like it was AI generated. Like whenever you ask ChatGPT to write a paragraph for you and it gives you like 6-10 sub-paragraphs with no connection to eachother. Thats how the locations and the structure of the entire movie felt
It was initially a passion project inspired by a plane conversation thirty years ago between Zack Snyder and Kurt Johnstad wondering what would happen if Seven Samurai and Star Wars were combined. The idea was initially pitched to Lucasfilm as an R rated Star Wars spinoff, but rejected. After years of on and off development, (ultimately spurred on by Lockdown) he ended up pitching it to Netflix to try and be a competitor, with an R rated cut and spin offs in the pipeline.
So less AI and more people trying to compete with Star Wars by putting their own spin on it.
I’ve seen ChatGPT work magic this seems way worse than something even a AI would come up with
@@tompotter8703well they were really late to the punch because A. Star Wars has already done the Seven Samurai plot at least 3 times first starting back in the 70’s, and B. Battle Beyond the Stars also combined SW and Seven Samurai back in the 80’s and even though it’s low budget and has that Roger Corman cheesiness to it, it looks way more charming than this.
@@oneinathousand2156also this supposedly being in development for 30 years doesn’t excuse any on the problems, I mean look at Duke nukem forever, game took 14 years to make and was a massive disappointment
@@leviticusprime4904 I don’t think it was in development for 30 years straight, since Zack was working on other stuff. I beginning to think he smelled blood in the water due to Disney Star Wars projects being less than stellar and decided to take advantage of it by taking his own idea and selling it to Netflix (who isn’t exactly known for their quality control) but forgetting to make the characters interact or be likeable. Not to mention splitting the movie in half and adding constant slo-mo to pad it out.
The funniest part for me was the rebel dude running up to the turret and it’s supposed to be super badass - but he takes super small steps and it looks super goofy lmao
That, and he ran by several bad guys shooting, none if which even turned to look at him running by, or to even attempt to shoot at him.
@@altaris2000 and they had line of site while he was standing still for a good few seconds.
@@illegalfoodz8402nothing new, they even copy this from Star Wars
@@altaris2000nah they did turn around but missed all their shots💀
I saw that and it kinda took me out of the scene, but then I tried to rationalize it. He was running up an incline so maybe he would have to take smaller steps, but maybe it was the angle it was shot from that made it look like not as much of an incline causing the steps to look so goofy.
Edit: Fixing spelling mistakes
This movie feels like if Bethesda made a Star Wars game and there’s no main player character, just a bunch of NPCs
Watching this movie felt like listening someone tell a story through a series of "This happens and then, and then, and then..." with uhmms and pauses here and there
I know these videos are for people who already watched the movies and can relate to Charlie's misery, but for me they're just a great way to find out what movies I should never watch, before it's too late.
After watching a movie like this, you can never go back to being your former innocent self.
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Or, if you're like me, and like watching shitty movies, he tells you what movies you should watch
You just share a brain with a CZcamsr? Oof.
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Charlie, I love you and all. I really do. Your content slaps every time, and I rarely disagree with you, even now, I agree. But I kinda wish you'd have made an effort to make your content focus on something positive, whatever it was. I don't want this to be looked at as hate... You're by far the realist and most wholesome creator out there. But I do low key wish you'd have left out any negativity for beyond Boxing Day at least.
Charlie... with a grey shirt. Never in my time of living would I have thought of witnessing such greatness as the combination of black and white is presented to our eyes.
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Real
currently vomiting on my phone from this disgraceful move from charlie
He's found the perfect balance between Charlie and Dark Charlie.
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My gf and I started to watch this movie and we immediately turned it off because of how blurry the shots were. It was super distracting
This movei felt like it had no writers, no director and no storyboarders and that they had 5 storyboard slides per scene that were all made by special effects crew of dubious quality.
How could you miss the classic interaction of "im a slave." "Youre a slave?" "Yes im a slave" "why?" "Im a slave because of my bad choices" "wanna join me?" "No im a slave brb im gonna stop being a slave. Okay im ready to join you"
or how the general basically just get washed and then joins them coz revenge.
the hyype him up endlessly as an arena fighter so i thought we would get a generic scene of them seeing him fight in the arena, but no they just WASH him.
Truly the most interaction of all time.
@@weedling3552 woulda been great if we saw him being suspicious of that one guy and then coming up with some plan to stop the ambush/betrayal to show off how much of a "genius tactician" he was. Instead every time he was on screen I was just like oh yeah he's in this movie
yeah but that would have required some scenes with the crew actually interacting. instead we got more slow mo.
or during the ambush he could have called out some orders to organize the rebel, to target specific threats, call for them to take cover, ANYTHING, but i cant even remember him DOING anything during that entire fight.
he gets washed, joins, kind of is the background and then appears again when they reach the village.
the wasting of the characters is just beyond anything ive ever seen.
i dont even think the sword lady did anything during the ambush fight. not even in the background. you dont see her cutting guys in half with cool moves in the background, nothing.
they just pop in and out of existence.@@reidwilliams9970
Is this real?
"He has this obsession with slow motion for this movie" I am pretty sure this describes EVERY Zack Snyder movie
Yeah I remember my mom and sister went to see Old a few years ago and they commented on how bad the acting was and I had to tell them it wasn't the actors fault, Shyamalan just likes to make his actors embarrass themselves
Slow Motion in Zack Snyder is like Explosion in Micheal Bay
If i had a nickel for every time there was a zombie baby in his movies. I would have two whole nickels which isn't a lot but it is weird that it has happen more then once.
Well he dialed it up to 11 and said fuck it 😂😂
He even has The Flash running in slo-mo.
If a space rebellion sounds interesting to anyone you should just read the Red Rising series by Pierce Brown. Space action, cool settings, great world building and an interesting group of characters. It’s all there
and/or just literally watch Star Wars
Or i could just watch star wars
@@gavykanrepublic6699 heheh and/or
I rather just watch Star wars
You've peaked my interest now, I always look to read new books
I went to an early screening for Part 2 today and it was just farming and talking for 45 minutes 😭 I fell asleep on a movie at a theater for the first time in my life.
This movie feels like a script overview that was supposed to get sent to a writer for touch ups and to flesh out the characters more, but on the way over Zach intercepted it and decided to fill it as is, making up for lost details with slomo
I legitimately thought this was a Star Wars movie until I saw this video
@@kitsmashing3267 That's actually Snyder cut a bazillion time. He himself admits (proudly, it seems) that most of his movies have a director's cut. Supposedly, there is a director's cut for his last zombie movie... Wtf? I knew of the Watchmen's Director Cut, also BvS (lol) and JL (unfortunate context and weird output overall).
To me it was like what outsiders must hear when my friends and I try to explain one of our D&D campaigns. There is cool introductions of characters, who had so much life, but you can't explain that to somebody in the three to five minutes they'll listen to you about a game you played. So it just comes out...
Flat.
My favorite part is them showing the Evil Empire being able to completely destroy the surface of the planet from orbit, but the main plot is them getting together to help the villagers fight back. Then in the trailer for Part Two they show the Good Guys training the villagers on how to fight a ground war.
Yikes lol
Yes! I never understood this nonsense of getting a 'team' to defend the village, when it could just by wiped off the face of the planet. I mean, unless you have a Superman defending it or something.
i be the evil empire wont fire a single one of the low orbit guns at them, just rush into a senseless melee, where they can be easily beaten by the super solder protagonist in slowmo.
@EmlynBoyle because that's what happens in Seven Samurai and they couldn't possibly invent a new idea.
@@anenemystand5582 What the hell are you talking about? Someone's never seen Seven Samurai.
I liked the part when it turned into How to Train Your Dragon for five minutes and then it never pays off that plot-point in the final battle and the character who was in that scene does nothing but run around shirtless.
Also it was nice of Anthony Hopkins to read the Star Wars title crawl as narration so Snyder could avoid being sued.
My favorite part is when the main character gets loud and it resolves any interpersonal confrontation.
watching this movie felt like playing a bunch of random quests from every bethesda game in no particular order
It reminded me of starfield indeed
Fucking wheezing
One of my fav positive RT reviews was "While the first half takes off after a slow start, it is not a film that will be accused of originality." 💀💀💀
My favorite positive RT review was the one that called Rebel Moon "Inimitably watchable trash" 💀💀💀
what are you yappin about
well it seems like it's not actually ripping off just star wars. It is also ripping off warhammer 40k, even more blatantly than star wars. that review is extremely accurate
It's the plot and characters of Kurasawa's Seven Samurai, but worse in every conceivable way and with a Warhammer 40k aesthetic. (Note: The 1st star wars movie was Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress mashed together with WWII combat films)
@@hypothalapotamus5293 honestly if it's trying to have a w40k aesthetic it's missed the mark completely. It's got a standard scifi universe, sure, but nothing about 40k is standard scifi
the way charlie describes this movie makes it seem like watching someone’s playthrough of baldurs gate except they never interact with their party members
My main problem was that the main protagonist acting was so bad, i didn’t believe a word she said and it brought down so many other characters acting despite some good actors being in it.
I really like how offended Charlie sounded while he was describing the scenes.
I mean it is an affront to everyone with a working pair of eyes and a brain
It's the similarity of Star Wars and he's in his feelings a tad 😆 it was funny af
Yeah he sounds like a grown man child complaining about nothing. Just like his content "is a waste of time". He projects a lot.
@@Bfkcjscbsnjc I mean, there's nothing wrong with not liking something, and reporting on it. Many people do this, and it doesn't make him a man-child for giving his honest opinion. I'm guessing you have something against him personally, which is why you left such a bad faith argument against his opinions on this film.
I think he's just in a really bad mood these past few months since he broke up with his gf lol
my fav character was the robot. despite of him being a robot, he had the most life than all the other characters combined.
I swear, the few minutes of screen time that robot had were the most memorable and enjoyable. The movie itself is an assignment done by chat gpt.
A robot that appears the first 15 minutes of the movie and the last 6 seconds was more memorable than the main cast 💀
Yeah, during the whole 5 minutes or so he showed up just so Snyder could justify having Anthony Hopkins do a voice over for the trailer.
This sounds like when I tried to make an “original story” by stealing ideas from shows I liked in 6th grade. The main character was a Mary sue who everyone liked unless a character was evil. And a random spy crew of prince and princesses were being collected to join for no reason. They also all had the same personality. 😭
I’ve been watching you for a little while now and your just so funny dude u flow these connections seamlessly😂
I loved how the villains looked like a dollar store version of the Imperium in 40k.
Their soldiers looks like they bought surplus armor from Emperor Calus from Destiny
Snyder has 800 years of lore to share. The story really takes off in the 350 year mark.
the characters tho, they won't ever get developed
He should probably write a book then, cause making screenplays is not what he's good at
Tbf, any details or plot points that get hung up or lost could just be setup for the other parts of the planned series.
About having slow-mo to fill runtime, we had this group project in school where we had to make a video and we had a minimum length requirement. When we recorded, it wasn't long enough. So, we just added slow-mo to the video to meet the requirements knowing we wouldn't get a good grade.
Zack is the kind of guy who's really good at copying things 1v1, but if he needs to change even just one tiny little detail, it all goes to shit.
seriously its the same sort of griddy dark color toned movies since the beginning, it worked for watchmen and 300 because those were R-rated gore filled movies that fit his tone of work its also the reason other movies like sin city worked in black and white with reds for solely the blood, a PG-13 movie having it is the same as if cocomelon having it because neither can fit that tone without being R-rated.
what? making something darker/grittier doesn't make it automatically better? What if it's darker AND in slow-motion?
I really liked his Dawn of the Dead. Pretty much nothing else. 300 was way overrated but passable.
I was actively looking for something new that sets itself apart from Star Wars.. and the only thing was : This universe has sexual assault. Honestly it feels kind of gross how much he puts it into his movies for edge factor
@@MrToren01Omg, Zack Snyder directing a Cocomelon is a nasty thought
Charlie is dipping his toes into fashion, he's going wild with new colors and ideas. He realizes he can wear black, AND white, at the same time.
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Wait until he discovers stripes
@@DovaDude oh god
Strange enough, how the characters in Rebel Moon interact, and the way it was written remind me of the same impression I had when playing FF12 back in the days.
Both rip-off Star Wars.
FF12 blows Rebel Moon out of the water
After watching the movie, my friend Adam told me “Zack Snyder is great at aesthetics and visual worldbuilding, but terrible at story/plot.” And that perfectly encompassed my reaction to Rebel Moon.
I’m so glad the spider lady scene got mentioned. That scene was rad. It felt like it was taken from the middle of a better story. The lightsaber wielder had this real sense of honor to her that we just never got to see. She could’ve been an awesome character in a story about her.
Additionally, in the beginning there’s this robot soldier, and we hear about how the robot soldiers used to belong to the king and ever since the king died they won’t pick up a weapon. Later, a woman who was nice to the robot is getting assaulted, and something shifts in the robot and he’s able to pick up a gun and shoot the guy grabbing her. That could’ve been another awesome character in a story that was actually about them.
Jimmy (the robot voiced by Anthony Hopkins) had the most personality out of all the characters, by far. This is despite it only really being in a few scenes in the beginning of the movie. I wanted Jimmy to be the main character.
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What in the name of christ is Anthony Hopkins doing in this?
He was in Transformers 5, idk anymore man.@@Ukraineaissance2014
Totally agree plus I really liked their takes on different tech and aliens throughout. I feel like they should have hired these people to make the background stuff for the new star wars stuff cause they did a way better job.
There is no director in the world who had more chances that him and consistantly failed EVERY TIME!
It’s like watching your friend play a video game on easy/story mode
The way I can describe this movie is if imagine the first Star Wars where the whole movie is Luke and Obi-Wan trying to convince Han and Chewbacca to defeat the empire but the fight only happens during the last 30 minutes with lots of slo-mo.
For those familiar with WarHammer 40k you’ll probably be pissed at how much Zach Snyder took from that universe
I don't know more than what Charlie said here but it was definitely giving me 40k vibes
@@Mr2024XDcringe
why would you be pissed. The 40k content is so limited that anything even remotely in that realm would be appreciated. I haven't seen it BtW, just questioning the logic of your comment
Also, probably not going to watch it because of the female protagonist
@@iliilliliiliilliliiliillil9137 As you've not seen it I'll let you know that outside of using key visuals and names it's still very much a StarWars film and doesn't really follow any of the themes. So it's a 40k film in only the most basic surface level way. 40K fans dont need to appreciate this when the Amazon project has now been signed off and much better films exist.
Watched it with my fiance and the slomo overkill quickly became a running gag that basically was the only thing in this movie which entertained us
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The General saved them time on insurance, it happened offscreen.
Rebel moon felt like watching three different films back to back
Fun fact if Zack didn’t use as much slowmo as he did he could have squeezed in part 2 on this one 😅.
Maybe half of 3 too!
Your statement is neither 'fun' nor a fact.
Same goes with the stupid 4 hrs cut of the justice league, I’ve nvr seen any directors that are more incompetent than him.
@bjdepro m. Night shyamalan gjves him a run for his money 😅
But fr, 300 is the same way. Someone timed how long the movie was without slomo and it was like 45 minutes 😂😂
The shock baton stormtrooper with the one line of "TRAITOR" from the force awakens has more personality than anyone in this entire movie
Shock Baton Stormtrooper has more personality than the protagonist of that movie, too.
@@MSpotatoesteehee girl bad
@@MSpotatoes Oh look, a sad pathetic Rey-Hater...how nice, here, get a cookie for you oh so deep and interesting comment that has no value at all and only shows how bad your taste in characters, writing and general film making is...
@F0XD1E
Nah, im sorry to tell you, but Rey being shit has nothing to do with her being a girl...
The slow mo in this movie genuinely made me leave the room. Definitely not the way i planned on spending my Christmas day
I made it 15 mins into that movie before I gave up
I put it on because I'd vaguely heard about it and thought it was a show, not a movie. After realising the first episode wasn't ending I thought maybe it was like 3-4 really big episodes. Then I finally realised it was a movie. Literally felt like they made a TV show, cut all the episodes in half and then glued them together.
Same here ! Like … what ? That was a movie ??
Zach Snyder could literally urinate on the camera for 3 straight hours and his armada of fans would call it oscar worthy cinema.
But would he do it in slow motion?
@th3mdt How do you think It would last 3hrs without show motiob?
@@antoniofernandesmarchetti1097 A lot of Mountain Dew and editing.
@@th3mdtthat would be how Zach gets to those 3 hours using his nonstop slow motion
I actually liked his contributions to the DCEU for the most part. Shouldve finished the arc. And then leave.
I heard someone refer to Rebel Moon as Zack Snyder's : We Have Star Wars at Home.
I actually loved the way he wove Niven, PKD, and among many others, Star Wars references together. It must’ve been meant to be eye candy for us oldsters like Ready Player One. I recognized the multitude of tropes he was extracting ideas from and enjoyed it for what it was.
A good story isn't just tropes upon tropes though, right? Like the funniest jokes aren't just rapidfire references to things that you've seen before.
@@shanedsouza189 I never said “good” lol, but get your point. While I resist the “there are only so many good ideas” excuse for creative apathy, I don’t mind occasional comfort food entertainment. People have been laughing at the same jokes for a long time, too! In the Middle East long ago poets used to battle rap about ED. That said I have a lot of screen time to fill. Original ideas well executed are a rare joy.
The person reacting to that character death had me in stitches.. even the death itself was laughable
The bad death scene; the hallmark of any pile of turd.
This should be talked about more hahaha like who is that character why is she important now all of a sudden even getting a speech from 6 pack man😂
Charlie perfectly captured my feelings on Rebel Moon. Man, I really wanted to like this movie...but it's genuinely awful...I think Snyder really needs to re-evaluate his approach to filmmaking.
He needs to go back to working with a cinematographer and a good writer and stay away from both of those roles
I've only been saying this for years. He's never been a good filmmaker. Most of his films have the nuance and subtlety of an edgy 14 year old's fanfic.
@@nate.infinitywhich is great sometimes but not often. His only entertaining films to me are 300, Watchman, Dawn of the Dead, and sucker punch. And none of those are for the writing.
I dont even know him when I watched 300 nor army of the dead, but the latter makes me hate his lack of character development or pacing
@@nate.infinity lol, you're not wrong... but there's a place for his type of movies when done well, like 300 and Watchmen. Those are genuinely fun and enjoyable movies. I think it's possible he could direct stuff like that and be very successful again. The problem is he keeps trying to touch a pen and getting involved with the scripts. There seems to be a very clear pattern of the more involved he is with the story/script, the worse the movie ends up being.
On a completely different note, I'm blown away by how delusional and insane his fans are. I'm shocked at how hard they are defending this film and some of the wild shit they're using as a defense. Someone legit told me... "I'm not sure why you're hating it so much, his daughter died, give him a break." They cite movies from over a decade ago as proof that he's still a good director. They say the Snyder cut "saved Justice League", which is crazy because all that cut did was turn a bad movie into a mid one, while costing the studio another 70 million to make. I simply don't understand why they defend him so hard.
flash back = yells at smoke, shoots at smoke, raises flag in smoke... me am warrior.
I never thought a synder film could put me to sleep.
I totally feel some of the Star Wars writing but honestly my first thought comparison wise was Warhammer 40k
-Fascist human empire that is literally called "The Imperium"
-Human sect obsessed with technology and augmenting themselves with it literally called "The Mechanicum"
-Human leaders name is literally Belisarus (Belisarus Cawl being the leader of The Mechanichum in 40k)
-The Ecclesiarchy within this human empire is and the way they act, literally the same feeling as the Inquisition from 40k. Rebel Moon even has these weird priest dudes (who literally seem to do nothing the entire movie) in all red who further reinforce that vibe.
And that's just what I remember. To be honest I watched it right as it came out and barely remember much outside the basic premise of the story and the similarities I noticed. The movie was pretty unmemorable so I'm honestly even struggling to remember all the characters names. There could be a lot of other blatant similarities I totally missed. I will say I did enjoy the world/setting in Rebel Moon though, but I love Warhammer 40k so I guess that's to be expected lol
sounds really bad and very cheap. Typical mar......st💩
Your post almost makes me want to watch Rebel Moon now to see if you're right.
same!
@@Pazuzu4All
this is the same vibe i got. knowing warhammer 40k lore, i literally couldn’t put it past my mind every time they referenced something from 40k.
for example the robot they unboxed in the scene where the imperial-guard-looking soldier holding a reskin of bolt pistol asks who the robot is, and he answers “The Mechanicus Militarum”… like what?!?!
To me, it felt like it was collecting parts it liked from other properties. The bad Imperium people of 40k, the vague plot points of Star wars, lightsabers, "hyperlaunch" instead of hyper speed, the Dreadnaught honestly looks like the Spaceship Yamato. Hell my mom said the MC's history and character was *literally MCU Gamora*
It was written as a Star Wars story. He pitched it, they declined it so he made some changes and made that monstrosity of a movie.
Then it was fuckin declined for a reason
Cope
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This whole movie just sounds like a worse version of Rogue One
@@flamseySeven Samurai in space just minus all the philosophical aspects. Literally that’s all this movie is.
The rare Charles with the GRAY shirt
shouldve been a series.. cuz not even a part 2 will save this story.
it's a truly genius film that makes you go "wow i could literally watch this, but better" and watch the 'inspired from' films instead
2 days in a row of Charlie not wearing a white or black T- shirt is utter history
The world is collapsing
Saw this film being advertised on a bus and I immediately knew Charlie was going to cover it
i saw this movie two days ago and now i can’t even remember anything but that robot character getting taught how to love in 2 min real time
honestly the way charlie described the plot of this feels like it should have been a game instead of a movie. Maybe not a modern AAA but definitely could see something like this coming out during the 360 era and being a banger RPG
Mass Effect. You're thinking of Mass Effect 3 specifically. Epic threat destroys the main character's home, they rally the team, and then confront the big-bad.
Unironically Zach Snyder would probably be a fire game director based on the way he likes to shoot and direct his movies. He would just need to not write the story of the game too 😂
@@utility63 True. But unlike this movie, the characters in mass effect are great. The selling point even
@@bctalkspod His main issue is the length of his writing which might actually benefit him if he makes it into a game lmfao. Imagine being able to DO ANYTHING during the 3+ hours of story he's trying to tell (in movie time)??? Actually enjoyable....I see why kids need a video where there's a fidget spinner or random shit get destroyed on tiktok...it's so god damn boring to sit there watching such slow, boring story telling.
he is actually planning to make an RPG out of this series
Rebel Moon would’ve been an hour long if it weren’t for all the slow-mo scenes lmao
I spent so much of the movie thinking to myself how bad it was that I forgot to even understand the plot
They even had a weird edit of Charlie Hunnam's character being killed, as soon as the main farmer guy shoots him it instantly cuts to the big action scene
Me and my fiance started watching this the other night and he fell asleep during it lmao. The best thing I can say about it is that the CGI is pretty good
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Same, I got about 1/2 the way through and passed out. Despite having a lightspeed pace, it was so boring and forgettable.
5/6 replies are bots lmao
@@mal6263fr lmao
Zack Snyder is truly one of the directors of all time
This one sounds as bad and good as every other one of his movies
@@DHT05 We. Don't. Care.
@@ethanvorn5153 no point interacting with bots dude, don't feed em
my favorite part of his film production process was when he said 'it's snyder'n time' then proceeded to snyder all over the cast, crew and script.
Did anybody notice that the teenage solider at the start who helped the main girl fight off the group of solders in her village just disappeared after that
he used slow mo so that he can stretch the movie into 2 parts