Do Natty Bodybuilders Train Different Than Enhanced? Alex Leonidas + Jonni Shreve
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2024
- @AlexLeonidas @JonniShreve
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0:00 Intro
1:35 Super ROM Lat Raise
7:49 "Dangerous" Upright Row
12:26 RARE Stand curl MACHINE - Sport
So an eastern european jew, a spartan warrior and a nigerian prince walk into a bar..
So sorry to hear what the red army did to your German women.
Alex a jew? Looks so im just asking tho
@@javilo2797 oi vey , its mike
@@javilo2797 he meant Dr Mike
They all do myo reps
Had an amazing time with you and Jonni! Pushed me hard during this zombie prep state, learned unique training tidbits, and was fun vibes overall. Cheers to more progress, in and out of the gym 💯
Straight inspiration it’s crazy I’ve been watching since 9th grade I’m a Sr in college now.
You’ve come a long way and taught us all a lot keep up the good work.
Damn man it's great to see you're still around.
Hey what is the workout app you are using?
Really happy to see you get featured on RP and congratulations on getting the second place in Open Classic Physique! 👍
Hope to see you more with the RP-crew.
You can tell Alex is getting ready for a show. It looks like the lights are on but no one is home!
The show actually already took place, he placed second!
He's just dumb mate
Almost a wasted opportunity to workout with RP deep into contest prep. Luckily he has video to fall back on when he body has energy to devote to cognitive function again.
@@undergroundcreep in the video the show hadnt taken place yet
I also think his mic wasn't on
As someone who has watched Alex since the bear-mode days it's insane to see how far he has come. Thats what being humble and determined looks like. It's the first time I feel "proud" of a youtuber or person active on social media, as weird as that sounds.
Same. And as a long time viewer, it's like we've grown and matured together.
Wasn't Alex bear mode like 6 months ago? He didn't really "come far" since then he just cut. He will probably bulk up again very soon. Bear mode is where its at. Get strong as shit and make consistent gains.
He's a juicer. Nothing inspirational.
@@seal9454 you just made that up. - Dr. Mike
@@RenaissancePeriodization in many vids, including yours, I hear you can spot enhancement a mile away, like you just know. You've also mentioned a lifter hitting 45lbs muscle (freakishly) in the first year, guys that shoot up and you'd never even guess - forever 5'9 160lbs and like no benefit. And I'm always wondering when I look at someone - just for the sake of keeping realistic goals. It's not always so obvious, guess it doesn't even matter, I just don't like being told enhancement is easy to spot while there seems to be a lot of gray area.
Alex sure has come a long way since the buffet days and doing calisthenics on the local playground.
😂
He changed his accent more often than I change my underwear, but he’s a top lad nonetheless.
He still does calisthenics at the local playground.
Mike needs to take Alex to Vegas so they can hit the real buffet. I want to see them at the Bellagiio buffet
Bulking up on timbits.
Credits to Alex...true dedication. When I was new to fitness I didnt believe he was natty, changed my mind now.
Weird Im the opposite
@@coin777 if you think he's not natty at 68kg you're out of your damn mind
@@coin777 the funny part is that he is going to get bigger NOW. Finally he dropped the "powerbuilding, need to get stronger, blá blá blá" mentality that holds the entire natural community back. You can watch the changes he made now and how much better his physique is. He now understands that as long as your diet is on point, progression is going to be a by product of your volume + recovery, so that's where the focus should be.
@@coin777 Brother, Alex documented his journey so well that it basically proves his natty status, slow and steady progress for years, he never lost muscle and he never suddenly jumped in progress, believe what you will, but in my opinion the journey is more relevant of a proof than the end result.
@@gromswowguide7927 that's the natural way
I'd love to see one when Alex is fully recovered from the show.
I know he feels like shit right now but his back just looks incredible.
Huge respect for Alex. He chose the slower, harder, "smaller" natural way yet still holds his own. Not the largest guy here but the biggest man. A tremendous inspiration to 95% of normal guys out there who care more about their long-term mental and physical health than the "whatever it takes" ideology. Σεβασμός!
I don’t like to lower the ped using homies , I have a lot of them , I’d say about 90 percent of the friends I have that lift are enhanced, some don’t have a choice , they however come in all shapes sizes and personalities, some are the most humble , kind humans in tha planet , salute to them , some are dicks though lol
@@LoneEagle01 What do you mean by they don't have a choice?
He’s gotta get on gear and make real gains soon.
@@juddmorgan4095 what I mean by that is ,, I’ve seen them work out consistently for about 3 years , eat healthy , sleep properly, etc .. yet their physiques are subpar compared to even a person that does not lift , yet they want to look decent and have a small amount of muscle , so their choice is , jump on gear or look like shit , so what I mean is they don’t have a choice if they want to look impressive, cause they have exhausted all their other choices already .
@@rickybobby7276 You are mentally ill.
I used to have the same misunderstanding about Upright Row just like Alex. But now, I learned to use it to cook my delts. Thanks Dr. Mike.
Yay! - Dr. Mike
That side lateral machine looks smooth af🔥
Alex and Mike in the same video is truly one of the collabs of all time
they are definitely two of the bodybuilders of our generation
@@kw1kstr1k3 ahahhahaha
The upright row with cable absolutely murders my upper back, it's great.
Wow, this is excellent! I watch all three of you guys and i very much appreciate your content. It’s great to see you at the same frame. Thank you all for your contributions to the fitness community and special thanks for adding value to your craft by being your authentic selves… Much love and respect 🫡🫡🫡
Great seeing Alex on the channel
Most amusing thing to me about this video is how Alex is the tallest guy here 😂
Thought exactly the same thing LOL manlets united!
How tall is he?
@@akbananachucker2441 I heard like 5’6
@@LaymensLameMan Alex says he's 5'5 so maybe even less. I didn't know the other two were literally like 5'3 each
@@callam4336 Jonni is 5"7
So cool seeing Alex and Mike together 👍
I'd love to see Alex back on this channel when he's at 100%. He looks great but he's clearly mentally drained 😆
Degenerated
What happened to him?
@@Bloke124 He was on a big cut. Was basically in the single digits of body far percentage and didn't have any of his usual energy or mental capacity
So that's why I found him "not present" in this workout? Kinda tired or something
@@PornEqualsHappiness
This is why I prefer to stay at the 10-12 range. Sub 10 can get ridiculous. When I was boxing I was like 8% and I felt hangry all the time. I mean it helped when I fought cause I just unloaded all my anger onto my opponents, but I was fucking rude to everyone lol. Here in the army, you need some more body fat on you. Not fat, but around the 10-15 range. Perhaps ever more. Not only do you need to run fast for long distances, but the endurance and strength to carry 70+ pounds of gear on you for 10+ miles. At least I can enjoy more food here (and yes the food in the army when you’re out of basic training is mostly good).
Been waiting for this one! Alex is awesome. Big pioneer of the current noble natty CZcams fitness community imo
Yess, been wainting for this one
honestly although natural lifters don't achieve the same mass or strength, the actual look of their bodies is far more pleasing to me, it looks like how a fit and healthy human is supposed to look, compared to absurd thickness and width
It just looks natural and pleasing to the human eye, more so than an enhanced physique would
Advanced natural physique is the best look, most steroid physiques just look weird to me.
alex im so proud of u man ur such an inspiration so glad to see u there
Your videos are the best and most informative on the Tube, my workouts has been so good since i started taking all tips on hypertrophy and exercise selectment, thank you so much.
Excellent! - Dr. Mike
Loved this collaboration! ❤️
Alex! Nice seeing him on the channel.
Another great video. Some of the best resistance training content on youtube.
Dr. Mike you Jonni are awesome together, now that’s chemistry 4-sure!
My world's are colliding. Love to see it
The world needs to hear more about Lu Raises!
Great mechanical dropset for delts: lateral raises > upright row > shoulder press. Use the same weight for each exercise. Rest just enough between exercises to hit the same reps.
now thats a banger collab, mike and alex pog
Real nice to see Alex training with these fools. I have a similar build to Alex and I got into lifting at the same time so I also don't do upright Rows because of athlean x lol.
Athlean x has ruined a lot of people. I hurt my self listening to that idiot a year ago
A Nigerian prince, Spartan king and buff hitman walk up in a gym
And they all get jacked off by Dr. Mike 😂. I kid you Dr. Mike, it's just that you keep asking for it with your gay antics.
Having the three of these guys together is amazing.
Omg I have been waiting for a collaboration with Alex for FAAAAAAAR too long. LOVE this.
Love this man's content ❤❤
Great stuff!
What an absolute legendary collab
alex walked his way into being an OG. It did took time but god damn look at him now.
Yaaayy, been waiting for this video to come out! Alex looked so soooo goooood!
I wish I had that lat raise machine. I love seeing these collaborations. I've been following both RP and Alex for a long time now!
Lu raises are your answer
@@TechnoMonsterXD Yeah I really recommend them. I prefer them over laterals.
@@joojotin Yeah man I'm with you, they've blown up my shoulders. With a slight forward lean, they hit traps and more rear delt too. Love them
@@joojotin solid physique too bro!
@@TechnoMonsterXD Thanks man!
More content with Alex please!
Such a beautiful gym warms my heart..
Alex is a g! great vid!
So happy to see Jonni on the channel all the time ❤ the best technique daddies all in one place now
Saved my watch time for the day 😂❤
I subscribe to all these beasts! Great to see them train together. Damn I love those Lu Raises on the machines, I do them with DB and do drop sets of normal side raises when I can't raise up anymore. But I wish I had that machine at my gym. Those Upright rows were wild, I gotta try that version! Gotta love Dr. Mike taking pics with fans in the back between sets of Bicep Curls. :)
Raw and uncut !!This is it!!!
Pristine form, state-of the art, clean machines, clean gym, controlled eccentrics, full ROM - the pinnacle of lifting
Did cable curls myo reps for 3 sets and then the bonus set with less weight this morning and it was incredible, cheers.
It is good to see Alex, Johnni and Dr. Mike together, all destroying themselves in a workout. Kudos for the hard work and high intensity.
Omgggg what a collab!!!
The crossover we needed.
This was dope !
Watching pros work out is the best way to get hyped for your own workout! I watch at least one video before every workout to get into the mindset :)
Alex’s delts just killing it, he looked great
Johnnie, Mike, and Alex...perfect.
Mike knows how to make everyone uncomfortable in any intro 😂
Alex is the 🐐. I been following him for years
I knew eventually that Alex just had to come to this channel, knowing that he's been a big fan of yours for years
Lets goo perfect timing I'm boutta hit arms and shoulders and wanted a new shoulder workout to try. Gonna try the paused upright rows right now (probably with a little less weight :P)
If his name is really Leonidas.. then I'm jealous
It is. Badass name
First name Alexander too..sounds like a movie name
The fact the Ales looks so jacked while shredded next to both of them on steroids really shows how far you can push it as a natty
it shows how far you can push while doing the total opposite of what was done here... if he trained like this his entire life he would've been way smaller
@@cimi93x
Yet you have dr Mike looking jacked training like this 🤔
@@StrongBodyandMind33 mike has been looking the exact same for years now, while being on a stack of gear lol he himself stated he built the vast majority of his muscle while training natty with heavy weights
@@cimi93x nice 😎
@@cimi93x what do you mean?
loved it!!!!
Yes, Alex!
Great stuff Doc......this was a 1st class Canuck collab !!!
I'm so proud of Alex man
They really trained Mike well. Mike's lucky to have guys like this to train him at times.
Thsi vid makes Alex look tall😂😂
Hey Mike just saw an old video of you (with hair) interviewing Konstantin Konstantinovs. Good stuff
RIP legend.
Great workout great people!! enjoy your workout guys!! cheers!!
omg! Alpha destiny and Mike together, my two favorite youtubers in the world, teaming up! Insane.
What a collaboration!
Haven’t seen Alex in forever used to watch his videos when I first started out.
Unreal video, upright rows are an RP staple at this point! Hook a brotha up with the music from this please mike :(
Dang, missed my chance to meet Dr. Mike at Pure. Someday... someday
sick collab
FINALLY a workout content
sickk collab
I love “lifetime natural” and mikes face to Alpha on the video picture. hahahaha 18:27
Savage training session
8:50 my guy has spidey sense going 💯😁💪🏼
Get GVS in from china or NH in from France next 😁
Keep it up with natural bros (and sisters?)
As a member of the general schmoe public I can relate to the nattys!
NH Lives in the US
Jonni's touch is so gentle.. awww
Holy shit Alex is looking fucking JACKED now 🤯
He looks better in different lights
I love the encouragement everyone is giving each other, but it really reminds me of the nurses cues to me giving birth. A lot of bodybuilding stuff reminds me of pregnancy stuff actually, the diet, the limitations of getting a lot bigger than normal, the pushing, the growing new human flesh. 😂 These guys can say they know what it's like.
“You’re doing great, now push!”
motivation game level 9000!
Another advantage of going all the way up is that you don't need as much weight to challenge your delts. Great if you're using relatively light dumbbells at home.
Alex is elite broo
Ayooooo, wtf, this is golden ! My man Alex
Whaaa... standing preacher curl machine with no pad? Wild, never seen one of those before. 🤔
Dr. Mike, could you do a video on Pavel and Dan John and their training principles? Would be curious to hear what you had to say on them. I’m a career firefighter and a lot of guys at the station like to follow their programming but I’m highly skeptical.
I think Pavel's not about hypertrophy, and he's said as much (wrapped in machismo about special forces people not wanting the caloric dependency of large muscles vs. just skill/strength). The kettlebell stuff is mostly about endurance first, strength second, hypertrophy a distant third.
For strength, yes. For hypertrophy? Probably not the best sources.
Oh man that's probably not something I'll do soon. From what I remember, Dan John's stuff is pretty good. But Pavel's stuff seems a bit cultish at times. - Dr. Mike
I'm in just for the Russian faceoff
13:45 the low-key Dr. Mike fan pic in the background 😆
Alex is a top 3 lifting resource on CZcams it’s no contest
The best intro ever
The full ROM latteral raise for me transfers to front delt at the top of the movement. I don't need any focus on my front delt. They seem to grow on their own. Instead I find it more beneficial to attempt a micro hold at the top (at parrallel).
Hello Dr. israetel. I noticed some lifts you had a longer pause during the peak of the contraction. Why is that?
I understand going through full rom is important but if the muscle building portion of the lift is the loaded stretch. Why not prioritize it always?
Big fan. Love your content.
The way Mike says “good ones only” at 11:14 has me dead for no reason lmaoo
Epic intro for the boys.
Valuable content. Alex is the pinnacle of natural bodybuilding. Props for years of hard work.
dope crossover
7hrs ago? I deffinately watched this b4. What do u chop up videos and put parts out at later dates? Must. Mike and jonni are some of the best youtube teachers out there
I thought the same. I remember D.Mike made a J + N joke with Jonni here, they chopped it off.