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1905 BATES CORLISS STEAM ENGINE. HOW I FOUND IT AND OTHER INFO.
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2023
- Caution, this video contains steam engines, not old cars. If you are offended by this old technology, (Steam) that produced 80% of last years electricity, please don't watch.
*- A properly brazed weld on the spoke will be stronger than the cast iron of the spoke itself.*
*- Getting and keeping the heat of the surrounding cast iron high enough is, apparently, the key.*
*- Drilling, tapping, pinning AND brazed welding the break can't hurt, Jonathan.*
Considering the age of the machine overall, 1 cracked flywheel spoke isn't so bad. Jonathan already knows how to fix it, and it won't be long before he's got it running.👍
You know it!!👍👍
This engine is so complete! What a great find.
Cool the way you used FB marketplace to find the guy who would lead you to the sawmill where this Bates happened to be!
That's some synchronicity right there!
Fantastic that the engine is all there!
Looking forward to seeing this one under steam!
I think the pivot on the rear wheels of that trailer is called a walking beam suspension far as I know.
far as that flywheel goes, once you line it up and bolt it, it wouldn't hurt to hog it out a bit and braze it up nice too.
Great to see Jonathan excited. I hope everyone is well.
I can't get enough of these videos! I've loved steam engines since I was a kid. Always wondered where they came from and how they got saved.
Glad your saving these engine I saw someone take a steam traction engine into a scrapyard here in Iowa and once it was.on the scapuard it was theirs and you could not buy it from this yard and it was cut up. Made me sick to see it lost and to think it got scraped.we need to save these engines.
Don't forget your log book 😅 ( don't know if they even have paper log books anymore..i retired from longhaul back in 93 after being held up and hijacked ..being around for 2 children was more important)
I know everything went computerized.
It's great to see you saving history 1 engine at a time 👍
Good to see your channel growing bud. Thanks for sharing.
A classic piece of history. Some things to imitate. Others can be fixed.
You find just the most unbelievably cool stuff man, I loved the last video when you got this thing, and I really liked this more in depth look. That fancy paint work makes me think of the Biltmore Mansion in Ashville, I can't wait to see more on it, I wanna see it all washed up
Hey folks, love your vids, found you years ago when your were dreaming about your steam set up,congrats on it all coming together. Your a very knowledgeable and crafty dude!! Keep doing what you're doing bud!🤙🔥
Hi JW......I always think of you as the US version of Fred Dibnah. It's only a matter of time before you acquire a steam road roller!
I saw Scott Newstead's reaction to the present you sent to him. PRICELESS!
Two great guys jiving over old Studebakers. What more could an enthusiast ask to watch?
I was pleased to hear how you intend to repair that flywheel. I used to get plenty of cracked cast iron cylinder blocks and used to "stitch" them. I'll put in a link
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metal_stitching
All the best
Nick Jervis UK 🇬🇧
I’m 53 years old now but I remember my grandfathers steam powered saw mill, I was amazed the day my dad and my uncles fired that sucker up. I.think I was 6 or 7
Great video! Fantastic story! Thanks so much for what you and your friends do. It's amazing! I'm looking forward to getting this one operational, to especially including your repairs. I suspect you'll be repairing the paint on this one, knowing somewhat how your brain works! 😉 I think fresh paint is what this one is calling for and will look spectacular! I find it quite interesting! Thanks, again! All the very best!
Conservator, you are getting a substantial steam engine collection.
Wow, that's so much metal . I am very interested in writing on the side. Thanks Jonathan.
Central California watching
More central (Sierras) Calif. watching, love his channel!
Los Angeles watching they broke the mold when they made Jonathan he can do it all@@kriswright1022
@kriswright1022 you all ok up there.? Livingston Ca.
Now you have the tags you could make new ones for the big bates to make mould , first impression with plasticine , then pour in plastic resin , make another mould using heat proof compound then to ceramic mould then cast in brass , I do this from time to time for models and small stationary engines ,
looks like a great find.
THANKS fer the update EH !! Lots of info in there as well.
WAVIN a hand EH !!
Some years back I learned about cast iron welding using a low temperature electrode called MG-250. It's a high nickel alloy rod which can be run at a very low heat. The base metal does not have to be pre-heated. I successfully repaired an exhaust manifold for a Ford V8 engine using this method. It is an expensive rod but it is well worth the expense since it eliminates the necessity of pre heat and keeps warpage to a minimum. It can also be used to bond steel and cast iron. I believe it would work well to repair the broken spoken your flywheel. BTW I chuckled over your "disclaimer"
Dam you are going to own every steam engine in the south if you keep doing this. But it's good you are saving a piece of history with every one you bring home. Thanks for the video.
Hi, Jonathan, well, my friend that's just what we're here for: STEAM ENGINES! God Bless and stay safe, Meow to Ninja Catscan
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We had a tracked machine at work with four tracks, one side had a hydraulic cylinder to raise and lower the front and rear of the machine (one cylinder for each track) and the other side (the passenger side) had a front and rear track with just one cylinder in the center and it had a walking beam so it was like a three point contact but with four tracks. It was the same idea as your trailer uses, with our machine it was used to keep it level from one side to the other.
I believe I have learned more watching your vidios than I have learned in years. When I tune in to your channel I know it will be good/
Morning Jonathan!! Another great steam engine find! I totally understand the feeling of the hunt for these vintage machines!
Thanks for sharing all this with us. It's a wonderful part of America 🇺🇸👍
Fascinating stuff as always, a lot of 6x6 Trucks use the rocking tandem axle design, great explanation, youll be running out of space soon!
Another classic saved! Great job!
Excellent video on history lesson Johnathan W :) also enjoy stories on stuff pick up also so enjoyable hear about too and you fixing up lots nice stuff also getting working too ! Also very good information too and like finds you get each time to and share on CZcams videos to! Look forward next videos you do each time !
I like the governor...l don't know if this was a 1st thing in the morning video or the weather or whatever else, but you sound good Jonathan - wish you could/would stay like this all the time...Scott's Kenworth sounded good in the video where y'all went & picked this engine up and he didn't look no worse for wear in the Will Fix It video at the cruise in so that trailer couldn't of beat him up too bad...l didn't know all that about that trailer (still trying to figure out the pivot part) good video Jonathan 👍 keep em' coming - l watch every one
Wow that is an impressive engine,
I think you are ahead of the game because that engine is so complete. Great find. Lots of Luck with it.
You have one heck of a good steam museum
Fantastic story telling....tHanks for the video
Johnathan well fantastic find keeping steam history alive i can hear in voice that you are over the moon with it when you go back go to the local library for info on the industry
Cold War Motors LOVED 16 Minutes of the video, but in the last 30 seconds you said "I'm going to work on the Studebaker" and they ran outside with the book to turn spanners and fight the good fight!
Always great interesting videos,thanks for sharing Jonathan ..stay safe.
Interesting story, thanks for sharing it. Just goes to show you if you really want something and you keep after it you have a darn good chance of getting it, just keep digging and digging for it. Those generators will be cool to have, it’ll be interesting to watch what you do with them.
Steam engine's are fascinating..
The purple hue in antique glass is due to aging combined with lead contamination in the glass from the manufacturing process.
Manganese was used in glass production to around 1915, exposure to sunlight will turn it purple, so I think the engine sat outside for quite a few years
If you weld that crack, be sure to preheat the entire piece so expansion caused by the welding doesnt crack it elsewhere. A sand box, heated with a weed burner before putting the flywheel section in works well. Cover it with a fire blanket or house insulation to keep the heat in while welding.
Back in the Mid-1970's I was stationed on a Caribbean island and there were the remains of a sugar mill that had a large steam engine and boiler. Probably still there because it was off the beaten path, but probably not worth salvaging due to the transport costs.
Very nice Jonathan love all the information Very interesting
Hi Jonathan RE: purple glass oil tanks My daughter collects antiques and she told me that if there are certain impurities in blown glass sunlight will cause them to turn purple over time. This machine was stored outdoors, so maybe that is what happened?
Interesting video Johnathan 👍
Keep on keeping on, love seeing this stuff. Your living the life. Happy for ya
Incredible find!!! That machine looks as if it will take much less work to get running. I hope to someday understand what the dash pots actually do (I have heard of dash pots on carburetors but these are different) and how the governor works? They both seem to have something to do with controlling the speed of the machine but I would appreciate an explanation. Will you get Vic back over to work on the Corless valves? Another tremendous machine and serious piece of industrial history. I think that brass Bates Corliss ID tag and the other smaller tag are simply fabulous -- an unmolested historical artifact. The trailer sounds pretty neat as well.
What a great find!
I’m really happy for you to find such nice add on to your steam engine collection they are beautiful engines you’re doing amazing things to revive them ❤cheers brother
There is one of these engines in Hastings Florida that has been taken apart and is in a field.
Great find! Kinda funny that your old school networking would seem so out of box to so many.... other than using fb instead of an old rotary phone it would be regular business to guys that existed before the internet. Your stripes and lettering may show better if you lightly mist with water.... just enough to dampen it and not soak it. Might even show better in a morning dew. Thanks for sharing
Saw your boy's shorts 🗿👍 Them engines sounded classic. Thanks for sharing Johnathan
Great! Saving Engineering History one bit at a time. Caution with the dust from old paints coz most of them were lead based and we all need all our marbles :))
Glad you found it, unfortunately these have been scrapped over the years.
👍👌👏 Each time I hear Johnathan W. say his iconic "It's not a big issue", I know for sure that it would be a big issue for almost any other guy. Or even the reason to give up. I often mentioned it but let me say it again: Congratulations 🎉 for having all those skills and the ingenuity. Kudos.
Best regards, luck and especially health to all involved people.
Post Scriptum: Is the new steam engine already Nana Catscan improved? 😁 ;-)
Jonathan, I know it's not too normal for you but, I really think you need to take some time and make some paper patterns and measurements of the paint job on that engine and lots of pictures of all the pins striping and everything.... and go get your fingers color matched... So that when you get it all fixed up, you can return it to an original condition... well, ish... It looks so awesome! I really hope you get the other engine too. You know I got to thinking... I've been watching Gentry and Son trucking lately... If you ever need help trucking something, maybe he could help and do a collaboration, I think you too, would get along real well.... He's over in sweet water... You talk about these things getting damaged when they get moved, Remind me of when Boone Scenic Valley Railroad got one of the last new 2-8-2 Mikado steam locomotives to be constructed in China. They had it shipped over here and taking it off the boat, they dropped it with a Crane, Broken real bad, But they were able to repair it, just sad they dropped a brand new engine, and almost destroyed it.
Those glass oilers might could be reproduced using epoxy resin and that can be tinted to match the original look.
Just a quick question I don't want to come off as someone trying to tell you what to video, so I was wondering if you are considering doing another rat rod build?
I'd so love to come and participate before my disability keeps me from doing stuff like that.
Love your efforts in saving "little" bits of history. Man with all those steam engines you could literally go off grid if the situation should arise.
Would be a nice looking engine in green/white
Very Cool and a nice find for doing the next step and asking
Absolute beautiful. great content. Thanks
Thanks for sharing your information and video. You are going to have to get your grandson and his dozier you made him to do some clearing up for you. 👍
johnathan that purple glass used to be clear it gets that purple hue from decades of being exposed to sunlight
out in the desert of the midwest you see purple glass more so than anywhere else and its always old bottles that were discarded and its hard to find purple glass bottles still in tact
The guys in Canada got the Vicky motor running and team Studebaker is not far behind. You need to get the Studebaker motor running!
Definitely plant it on a base and tear it down for a full restoration.
Nice outro Jonathan
I believe that trailer has a "walking beam" suspension, same as most tandem wheel graders.
There is a foundry where they blow Glass, not only but other wired stuff with glass melting etc. you can send these oilers with broken glass or picture I’m sure they can recreate oilers for you to make it time line.
Jonathan History detective just like on PBS.
Jonathan does your catalog show what these engines sold for in say 1900 -1915
Used panel bonding glue on the outside to fill the crack after your mechanical repair
Trailer axles are called walking tandems. Very common design in farm equipment
Jonathan, it may be possible to see any writing a bit clearer by taking a good pic of the area and using different color filters to look at the pic. Just a thought.
Do you know anyone in southern ohio who can braze a crown pully spoke I need it done on my frick size 0 circlemill with 1888 patten date on the husk
Are you getting them 2 Plainers? I would be interested in one of them
Wish I could have known you 35 year ago took two out of hospital at near jb bridge STL end up scrap😢
Central California watching
Can you fit a bolted 2 piece steel clamp around the adhesive spoke repair? Counter weight the flywheel opposite spoke for balance.
Proud of that trailer. Best hand you got.
Purple glass reminds of telephone pole insulationer on the poles.
Jonathan, we purchased a roller mill in Lancaster KY. We are in need of a steam engine. It was converted to electric in the 1940’s. We would like to go back to the original design. Can you offer any assistance? Or expertise? Thanks.
Never knew flywheels could be separated in 2.
I love steam engines!
That is similar to the old GMC motor home rear suspension
You are correct sir!
Is there enough difference in density between cast iron and a hi-grade steel screw (or whatever he uses) for the spoke repair to upset flywheel balance?
I honestly have no idea how finely balanced those flywheels are.
Upper mi here
Chatham Co. NC here
SC Kansas here
This is a first, was 40th person to watch and like lol.
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How long has the Vanamino been sitting there?
Awesome :)
Bottle collectors say sun exposure will turn some glass purple.
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Yep, better it be broken and have it, then not have it at all.
Heck of a story, kinda funny how life gets a long now n then eh. Be well.
Glad to see you save more of these engines. So many were sent to WW II scrap drives as factories went to electric motors. (old open frame electric motors are cool too: czcams.com/video/fNuI6keQXYA/video.html
Caint wait till you build a ratrod with one of your smaller steam engine
Another Indiana Jones series!
Brother If you looked at every picture on the Internet your eyes are gonna rot out and you should probably speak with the goodl Lord for a few days non stop. Lol
Your channel has kind of turned into a steam engine site. It used to be about a lot other stuff mechanical.
I rarely tune in anymore because I am just not into steam engines and it appears you are all about them. You are good at what you do and obviously enjoy it. Not sure what you are going to do with all these engines.
Wash your hands..
That green paint may well have arsenic in it...
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