Porsche Taycan EV Road Trip: Hertfordshire to Belfast (460 Miles)
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- Join our MD Simon Gallagher as he embarks on an EV expedition from Hertfordshire to Belfast in his Porsche Taycan Turismo. Discussing the current state of the UK EV Infrastructure, the importance of planning your journey effectively and most importantly, the cost of charging on the road!
This road trip promises to be an exciting and informative journey. Along the way, Simon explores the latest advancements in electric vehicle technology and shares his thoughts on the benefits of driving an electric car, and the cost savings involved.
Follow Simon as he travels through some of the most scenic parts of the UK and discovers new and exciting places to charge his Porsche Taycan. Whether you're an EV enthusiast or just curious about the future of personal transportation, this road trip is not to be missed.
00:00 Planning the route
03:20 And we're off!
03:46 145 Miles in
06:25 Stafford Ionity Charging Station
08:04 Back on the road
08:40 LinkedIn Controversy
08:56 Cost of salary sacrifice vs PCP/HP
14:02 Boarding the Irish Ferry
15:43 Dublin Arrival
17:08 Charging in Dublin
20:32 En route to Belfast
22:18 Charging at Porsche
23:57 Roundup & Verdict
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Great video !! Picking up a Taycan CT in Aberdeen and coming home to Co Antrim . This has been a great help !
Safe journey, glad the video has helped!
At your first charging stop, the charger showed your soc to be 50%…but you said you had less than 60 miles left?
Thanks for giving the positive experience that it actually is rather than the scaremongering going on on other channels
24:00 great to see ballylumford power station in islandmagee, never seen it from the sky before
Your first charge seemed far better than what the USA bloggers are reporting. The power available for charge rate in the UK looks advanced compared to many areas in the USA. Thanks for your review.
Interesting point Rob - many thanks!
Great vid, Simon. Looking forward to owning my first EV/ 4S and the “road trip” experience that comes with it. Thx again! 😎
An informative real world example! Fantastic video all 👍🏼
Thanks for the feedback!
If you take Irish Ferries from Holyhead to Dublin then there are half a dozen 6.6kW chargers on board. That would have saved you your Circle K stop!
I took my Kona to Ireland last year , i did charge to 100% when i got to Swansea as i didnt want to sign up to the Apps and there arnt many PAYG chargers in Ireland i did a round trip of 610 miles and only used 3 chargers , i left home with a free tank of sunshine. i was disapointed there were no charges at the Fishguard and Rosslare , it cost me about £40 but i did use expensive chargers
Brilliant - great overview and some brilliant footage of NI
Thanks Steve - working within a short drive to the North Coast, Giant's Causeway, Mourne Mountains and the Fermanagh lakes makes for a good work life balance!
Hello Simon, long time no speak, hope you’re well ? it’s Dave Digby, I came across this video by chance due to searching ev videos as I’ve owned one since last august which I use now for work, my commute to bidder street is around 100 miles daily, I mainly charge at home on an eco 7 tariff. Your video is great to show it’s not as scary living with an ev as a lot think, after doing 7k miles now I don’t think I’d actually go back to an ice vehicle. I’ll be sure to watch your other videos on this channel for the insight in what goes into the infrastructure behind the ev network. All the best.
Hello Dave- long time no chat, hope all is good with you ad great to hear from you! Ev is he future for sure. Out of interest do you use Economy 7 because you need the longer time window over the 4 hour window you get on the Octopus EV tariff?
@@simongallagher8661 I’m really good Simon, good to hear from you. I’m with E.on next on their eco 7 tariff, yes mainly on eco 7 for the longer window, if I got in late after a standby I couldn’t get any charge in on the cheaper rate. I have a 77kw battery in my car so the extra length of time on the cheaper rate helps if im planning a long journey to get as much charge as possible. I’ve even ventured down the route of a upgraded 3 phase service to be able to have the 22kw charging speeds.
Awesome video really showing how far the network has come, after recently getting my ev I’ve seen first hand how easy it is to charge and do long journeys
Great scenery and drone footage. Thanks for a realistic Taycan road-trip experience.
I did a 5200 miles in the summer in the USA staying at 3 National Parks and a National Forest. The car was great, first leg was 920miles left at 4:30am and arrived at 8pm but went thru 2 time zones. I has used A Better Route Planner for the full journey plan of that scale. I will try using the Porsche planner more for small 400-500 mile trips 😊
Interesting video thanks for sharing. Good to take advantage of the favourable BIK rates, hence why I drive a BMW ix3.
Great to see the infrastructure is getting better, thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
This is why charging, and fast charging, is so much more important than range at this point. People need to stop at around the 2-2.5 mark anyway. If that charge can happen quickly, that is getting close to sufficient.
bullocks! here in the states we can drive 15-20 hours in a day and be alright. stopping= for the weak
Nice video. The Porsche sat nav looks like it’s from a 90s Tom Tom. Any chance VW will license Tesla software?
Great question - Highly unlikely, but anything can happen in the automotive world!
Well said sir and a very high quality video.
Thanks for the feedback Josh!
Maybe you should do the same route the macmaster did and do a comparison. Maybe do it on a bank holiday
Tell you what's puzzling me. He was getting 3 miles/kwh on that trip, not hugely hurrying but not dawdling either. The MacMaster drives really slowly so as to arrive as late as possible (and blame it on the chargers), but he's still only getting about 2.5 miles/kwh as far as I can make out.
Great video, Simon. It was fun listening to your accent 🙂. We are from Bangor, Northern Ireland and my father used to work at Harland & Wolff before we emigrated to Canada in 1960. I have been driving a 2021 Tesla Model 3 Long Range for the last 2 years and am enjoying it. I would like to be able to try out some other nice EVs like the Taycan, but the CCS DCFC network is so not ready for primetime here as yet. Maybe in a couple of years.
Thanks for the feedback! I wish I had of taken some footage now around Queens Island, I had planned to but the rain put an end to that unfortunately!
It was the same in the UK where the Supercharger network was on the only game in town for a few years - but now with Instavolt, Gridserve, Ionity and others putting in massive infrastructure, it's almost swinging the other way.
I am sure the same will happen in Canada.
Although here Tesla are CCS too, so I can use the supercharger network (but never do).
Hey really enjoyed the video! I’m a Tesla owner but am super interested in the Taycan! Great video! What’s the most range you’ve had?
Your video very much aligns with my reasoning for buying an Audi Etron 55 (and now ordered a q8 etron 55), familiar with both your charging stops and the Titanic Hotel (and the museums underground charging). One thing puzzled me, were you really at 50% when you plugged in at Stafford or have I missed something? I note that (visually from the drone shot) you swapped chargers with the iPace so maybe you got some charge out of the first one before switching. I would have expected you to be down around 30% not 50% and 145 miles. I'd also be interested to know what the charging curve is like on the Taycan?
Thank you great job I do the same trip home going to get new car will be electric
Is maith liom an fiseán.
Nice to see a positive experience of a long journey in an EV, unlike a certain other Taycan owning CZcamsr.
Thanks for your kind feedback David⚡
Very interesting and informative video. I’m seriously considering going ev for my next car. One interesting thing to note is that few,if any charging stations appear to be covered, I can’t remember ever filling up at petrol station and getting exposed to elements as much as ev owners are forced to endure. This would appear to be simple fix for the charging providers.
Thanks for the comment ⚡It's certainly something we are noticing across our new installations...watch this space!
That is a very real issue - MFG are covering the new ones they install and it is good to see.
Interesting choice that you didn’t opt for Scotland to Belfast ferry, I guess more driving less ferry time,
great video Simon......did you not stop in Dublin to charge ??
Forget that comment Simon....i didn't realise until you made the port you were going UK - Ireland and not the other way round 😆😆😆
Just a couple of points. Why haven’t you got plug to charge I initiated on your car? If you had, at both Ionity chargers you’d have just had to plug in. I’ve travelled through France and Germany in my Taycan and it worked every time. Secondly you didn’t mention that the Taycan automatically changes from miles to kilometres when it senses which country it’s in.
Nice video. Your views are spot on. I have a Tesla M3P and hoping to order a Taycan 4S on salary sacrifice next month. Your 3 mile/kw is seriously impressive given the weight of the Taycan. Some questions, if you don’t mind. Were you in range mode? Did you travel at the speed limit or under on the motorway? What was the outside temperature? Lastly, is charging at the Porsche chargers quite expensive, as I understand that you get charged by time as well as kw provided?
Simon here - thanks for the feedback! Your questions:
- I never use range mode, I made the conscious decision to never try and 'eek' out range as for me it would take away from the enjoyment, so I always have the heated seats on etc.
- Traveled basically the speed limit the whole way, traffic was good so spent most of the time on the motorway at 70mph
- I use my Porsche Charging card at Porsche Charging stations, I just had a look at the invoice - you are right, it is 26p per kWh and 37p per minute (both excluding VAT), which I hadn't realised. Does not change the figures in my video though as that was charging well after I had completed the trip. Average cost for the Porsche chargers was 56p per kWh including VAT and the time element.
- I don't know what the temperature was, the English leg was a cool day, and it was raining hard by the time I got to Belfast. It was the last week in June, had the seat heaters on the whole way.
@@esmartnetworks Simon, that’s all the more impressive that you drove it normally. My plan is to use IONITY and Porsche chargers, where necessary. Distance doesn’t seem to be a problem in the Taycan and is better to charge from low state of charge to maximise on high charge rate. Thanks again for the informative video. Keep more coming if you can.
@@thebeatonclan Instavolt and Gridserve are good too - Instavolt are my favourite as they always work, and there are lots of them
@@esmartnetworks there are some new 350kw Gridserve chargers on the A1(M) near me. Have tried an Instavolt, but it wasn’t ultra fast.
How is there so little road noise? Is the Taycan really that quiet or are you running any processing on the audio to cut out drone, or the mic is doing it?
We haven't done anything to the sound, it was recorded on a Zoom field recorder, I think it has a low pass filter. The car is very quiet, but there is of course some road and wind noise.
Good video, exactly what I was after having just got my Taycan and moved from a Tesla.
Glad it was of use!
I follow the MacMaster CZcams channel, who currently runs a Porsche Taycan on a personal lease. Car cost £120,000 new, and is now one year old and only worth circa £45k. That level of depreciation is terrifying. He's also had some truly horrendous experiences trying to charge on the public chargers around the country, and the car itself has been far from trouble free. To be honest it's put me off EVs completely. I simply couldn't live with the level of stress and anxiety that Lee (the MacMaster) is having to endure with his Taycan. It's good to see the perspective of another Taycan owner, but I'm not sure the journey filmed was as relaxing or as easy as it was being portrayed. For now I'm sticking with internal combustion.
Surely you can see that all Muckmaster’s vids are merely clickbait grifting! He deliberately makes poor choices when it comes to chargers. He never sets off with a full battery. He charges his car on the road up to 100%, knowing full well that the last 10 / 15% takes a long time as the charge slows down to protect the battery. In reality he could just charge for 30 / 40 mins and put more than enough range in his motor.
If he was really having such a pro with that car, Sutherland would get rid. Regards depreciation; in the list of worst depreciatng cars in the U.K (2023] there is only one (1) EV. and that is an old model (Leaf) with quite old technology!
How about charging whilst on the ferry? That makes sense from a dead time point of view. Is it practical / cost effective?
Not really …. How would ferry operators integrate high voltage chargers into their ships..plus very inefficient loading if you have to sort EV’s into separate areas of the ship …they just want to load and unload as quickly as possible.
@@IverKnackerov last time I went on Irish Ferries from Holyhead to Dublin I noticed a few EVs being charged. I'm not sure about voltage or pricing though. Will check it out but I take your point, it may be better to opt for high voltage options on roadside.
Just how quiet is the Taycan please?
There has been some audio processing, however, the Taycan is very quiet. There is of course some road noise (the air suspension does help!) and wind noise - hope this helps.
Would it be possible to do a comparison video between your Porsche and one of the less expensive Ev's on the market eg. Renault Zoe. I can't afford £1200 out of my salary, or even £600 with the tax consideration.
Simon here - we could do, really the salary sacrifice suits. those who get a car allowance for their car - paramedic heros have a different company vehicle! I know the NHS in England are putting in place a salary sacrifice scheme, don't know about NI
@@esmartnetworks not here yet.
Why didn’t you use Porsche charging card at IONITY City North? 🤷♂️
Wanted to show what it is like if you don't have one - and it's slightly harder than it should be with Ionity
@@simongallagher8661 I’ve had every nightmare or hassle at IONITY CityNorth but it’s been the only true rapid charging option Dublin / (NI)
As an EV driver living in Northern Ireland, I look forward to episode 2: "How difficult is it really to rely on public chargers in NI"!
Your video was slightly misleading in that you just happened to find the ONLY 2 350kW chargers in NI, and, according to ZapMap, they do not exist. I presume that is because they are only available to Taycan drivers and only when the Porsche dealership is open.
If those Porsche chargers are available to the general public, let's get them 'on the map'. With an EV6, I'd love to try some of that high-powered juice!!
You can find that episode here - czcams.com/video/eQVCfI2dJyI/video.html
The Porsche chargers may be the exception - but I don't see it as 'misleading' as our offices are on Queens Island, so when I did a search in the Porsche planner, after discovering the 3kW chargers at the Titanic Hotel it told me to go there. Not typical for sure in NI - but its what happened.
Something dodgy going on here at 4:50 he said he'd driven 145 miles and had 60 miles left then at his first charge he had 50% soc🤔🤔🤔
0.71€/Kwh...petrol prices, insane
Whats a app???
I live in Norway where we have lots of superchargers. During the holidays I still end up in charging queues. I have driven EVs for 5 years and found them excellent, however, for long distance fast driving both in Europe and Norway I use my X5 45e. It mostly runs electric. Yearly average consumption is 2 liters/100km and full flexibility!
The video perfectly demonstrates why so many people are not ready to move to EV's. Far too much hassle and worry about finding chargers and then the time needed!
MPM means how many miles range you are getting per minute, doh!
I know that......but it makes no sense to most people!
🙄🙄
The government will penalise you when you sell the car. I have been quoted a £6k payback expected when I sell my Mach E so the “benefits” of a ev are very devious and underhand in real life.
'In real life' there is no penalty - the car is leased, and paid for out of my gross salary. When the car goes back, I have zero to pay, and the pleasure of knowing I only paid about half the cost from my net salary for the car. So the benefits of an EV in terms of tax are very real.
I think what you are talking about is buying an EV though a limited company, you get 100% capital allowance in the first year. You of course then have to account for the cash you get when you sell it, and lose that capital allowance - but you are still better off that an ICE car as the first year capital allowance is far lower.
My diesel would do it in less than 10 gallons and no stops if I didn’t want to
That's OK if you can afford a porsche in the first place. Try doing the same journey in a cheaper car.
I'm going to stick with petrol😂😂😂😂😂😂
Watch the MacMaster CZcams channel people he’s got the same car but he tells you the truth 👍🏻
What bit was not the truth? Simon
The truth?🤣🤣If the MacMaster attempted this journey, it would be one major drama after another, everything really contrived & all for dramatic effect. Somehow, he always manages to go to charging points that are not working and/or fakes range anxiety when he has plenty of range remaining. He “jumped the shark” recently when he claimed he “nearly died & froze to death” in his EV! How people believe such continual high-drama & yet doubt the authenticity of this channel (& presumably others like it such as Electric Vehicle Man & RSymons RSEV?) is a worry🤷♂️🤦♂️
I really think that if you believe anything McMaster says you are as simple minded as he is
@@danuk2005 stop being jealous you weirdo
Porsche taycan should be ban. Price is so high and bloody range is so low. Any luxury ev car can’t achieve 360 mile in one charge then they need to be destroyed.
The vast majority of people drive less than 40 miles per day,
EV’s sucks. Not even environmentally friendly…
Brilliantly incisive comment there!