Scott Stripling Takes YOUR Mt. Ebal "Curse Tablet" Questions with BREAKING NEWS
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- Stuart and Craig get an update from Dr. Scott Stripling regarding the "Curse Tablet" discovered at Mt. Ebal, believed to be the oldest known Hebrew script and mention of YWH found in Israel. While research continues and the peer-review has not yet been completed, Dr. Stripling responds to some commonly asked questions regarding the discovery.
For more information on the recent announcement, watch the full press conference here: • Mt. Ebal “Curse Tablet...
Read the Press Release from the Associates for Biblical Research here: biblearchaeology.org/current-...
How ironic is it that critics claim that Moses didn't have enough sophistication to have a written language, so couldn't have written the Pentatuch. Yet, scripture says Moses was raised through early adulthood in the household of Pharaoh where he would most definitely have been literate and learned in the chief power-brokers of the known world at that time: Egypt. God is sooo Good! He knows the end from the beginning!
This find has been rebutted and deemed a dud by all scholars
Thankyou for showing the interview with Scott.
I was amazed at this wonderful news.
Katy, Texas is a town that I'm familiar with. Our Church in Sacramento planted a church there in Katy, Texas after Hurricane Katrina occurred. Our pastoral staff went to Galveston to the beach that was to be visited by Katrina. They prayed that God would turn this hurricane away from Galveston. God heard their prayer and answered it by turning this hurricane away from Galveston.
God is awesome!
I thank Him for the revealing by evidence of the truth of scripture.
Very good! Guys, please reiterate why this is such a major find. We cannot stress it enough!
Thank you so much!!! Astonishing. May this spread everywhere especially in ALL our seminaries. Astonishing!
Fascinating stuff! Thanks for the interview.
wooow time is short those things that are hidden have been revealed, the Lord is coming soon :) you all have made my day
Which Lord?
Very illuminating! Thank you for these succinct answers about the details of the tablet.
🙏🙏🙏
Can we have an interview/lecture on the basic history and linguistics related to this work? We really have no context based on understandings. We can't comprehend how this work is this huge.
This is big news for all. But as laymen we really struggle to understand all the historical and linguistic background of this research. The "paradigm" of those lovely professionals. Would love to be given an introductory lecture on this topic. "background knowledge in order to understand this work"
Check out Associates for Biblical Research. Scott is a part of that group and you can get a lot of data from their videos.
Don't get your hopes up too high! Proto-Hebrew script is notoriously hard to decipher. It may take years before there is a general agreement as to what those letters on that tablet were intended to represent at the time when they were written.
John Chanaca
I'm surprised that no one has mentioned Tim Mahoney's work of Patterns of Evidence both Exodus and The Moses Controversy. David Rhul ( a professed atheist) helped Tim develop this excellent documentary and agrees on a later Exodus and historical evidence for Moses writing the 1st 5 books of the Old Testament in pre-Hebrew. Everything said in this excellent video with Dr. Stripling supports the Mahoney documentary. Please check out the series.
When I heard about this discovery Zechariah 5:3 just JUMPED off the page AS DID Daniel 9:27 in that THE Covenant was just confirmed! I looked at the date this Curse was "released" throughout the world and counted Daniel's 21 days of fasting and prayer that concluded with an angel giving him the 70 Weeks prophecy and the 21st day lands on Passover, April 16 when Israel will be EXACTLY 27,000 days old. The Lord Jesus is moving. He is coming. The time of Jacob's trouble is upon us. LOOK UP! Our Redemption draws nigh. God bless
Dose that mean the curse has been delivered
@@staceywebster7765 It is going out throughout the earth. His name is on that tablet. He is confirming THE Covenant. Zechariah saw this then he was shown what appears to be "wicked fire" coming from a base in Shinar. There is indeed an American base located on the border of Iran and Iraq. Then he sees the 4 horsemen of Revelation 6 and Joshua being crowned. This Curse was discovered in December 2019....27 months later it is released. Daniel is the 27th book of the bible. 27 means salvation. The 27th time the name Joshua is found in the bible is in Joshua 1. Look up!
Wow! Also what I found so interesting is we are in a shmita year.
Amen!
Thank you Dr.Stripling
This is awesome! Thanks for posting this. Not just allegorical stories, huh?!!
Yeah ♥️♥️♥️👍🎈😊 celebrations! 🎂✡️🎉
The Bible is living and active!
Thank you!
What are the odds of finding the pin that wrote this tiny lead tablet??? 🙏🙏🙏
This is such awesome news
Right? Such a fascinating find! We'll be looking forward to the full peer-review paper when it is released, but the initial implications here are exciting!
Fascinating. Looks like an honest effort as I have read that the oldest Hebrew consisted of pictograms much like Hieroglyphics. So these do look like the oldest. So far anyway.
I love the Eric Metaxis show; John Zmirak and guests. Going to be a great show. Once again, Bible Archaeology matters. Jos 8-:-30 Then Joshua built an altar unto the LORD God of Israel in mount EBAL,
You can get Adam Zertal's report and it shows nothing before 1250 BC. So he is stretching the date to 1400 BC. And he does avoid the fact that Zertal found an ambulant of Ramesses II near the altar.
So, is that altar they found the altar Joshua built in Joshua chapter 8?
Yes
Dr. Stripping,
To me your team's translation reads like a chiasm:
A
B
C
C
B
A
Is that your take on it as well? If so, it pushes back the use of that form of expression by centuries, too.
Thank you for your work.
Oops...fingers slipped. Of course I meant Stripling.
Paradigm changing discoveries are seldom met with enthusiasm.
Where can I see the original scanned letters??? Thanks!
The problem with all the sciences, archaeology included, (and the reading of scripture) is that there is always a propensity to want it to say what you want to hear.... often sadly, at the expense of truth. Jesus said, '....because i seek not my own will....therefore my judgements are true.'
While it is true that with archaeology, as with some sciences (not all), it is a matter of gathering the facts available, coming to a logical conclusion that best fits the available information, and being willing to adjust (or even disregard) that conclusion when new discoveries are made that may challenge those conclusions. You are correct, one must be honest in their search and remove any preconceived ideas or biases (as best as they are able) before drawing any conclusions. In regards to scripture, II Pet. 1:20 says “knowing this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture comes from someone’s own interpretation.” We therefore must be diligent to understand God’s one truth, rather than what we might wish to be true.
I’m having a little difficulty understanding the Hebrew font. Is this the same as the ancient Hebrew font or is the the “proto-Hebrew” font even older?
The Bible is 100% reliable. Imagine how many more discoveries will be made if scholars took the Bible more seriously as Dr. Scott Stripling has.
There has been over 80 different writers and all was 80 years plus after Jesus was dead..nothing can be taken as 100% correct or true.
That's incorrect. There were approx. 40 different authors that wrote the Bible and the gospel of Mark was written within 30-40 years of Jesus' lifetime, meaning that Mark would have been foolish indeed to attempt to write a fictional account that would have been easily disproven as the majority of his readers would have been alive during the time of Jesus ministry. The fact that 40 different authors, writing in multiple languages, over a such a long period of time, have written a cohesive and harmonious account of God's interaction and plan for mankind is, in and of itself, one of the things that sets the Bible apart. The erroneous litmus test that you use to discount the biblical text would invalidate every other historical account older than 200 years. czcams.com/video/pjBXva-xn-c/video.html
Dr.Scott, just curious about the site. Wasn't it just a very large rock clustered field that a alter was reassembled to meet your own idea of how these rocks could have formed the alter? Or was it excavated just as we see it now?
Also how do you explain the alter on the opposite side of Mt Ebal and not on the side facing the valley between the two mountains
I can dig it!
We see what you did there. :)
@@appianmedia I have ask to join the dig in SHILOH ! I DO LOVE dirt, it was made on the 3rd DAY. He made the dirt so that He could Form me by it. I LOVE dirt.
awesome
Has there been a laser ablation performed on the lead? I saw that used to identify source mines for lead. There may or may not be a source to match it to, but could be very useful. Very exciting find!!
There is some information about the tablet on associate for biblical research's channel 'Digging for Truth'. Including some pre thoughts about it which makes sense about the thought processes in the technical and literary investigations.
As a tease they also apparently have more characters on the outside which are also under investigation, using the same techniques. That is, I suspect the delay in releasing the scans.
Also in light of the comments by Finkelstein (as always) those might be even more contentious, so awaiting peer review is a darn good move. Lots of politicking ye olde fafioned vay. Secan se Cyning. 😇
But what does the Tablets Say!? That's all anyone should want to know!
Enough with all the Gibber Gabber! 🤨
what is that picture behind him on the wall depicting? very curious about it :'(
Not for digging up curses
This is exciting news, however can we actually have a look at the scans?
We have been told that they will be made available at the completion of the peer review, currently underway.
Can you (or Stripling) post an image of the actual (original) text? Right now there is simply an image of the other "case", and Stripling asking us to trust his imaging and translation.
This is one of the questions we asked Dr. Stripling where we talked him later: czcams.com/video/bdE9-55gMzo/video.html
What grips my attention about the curse amulet and the Hebrew text emulates from a particular verse in Deut. 11:18.
"Fix these Words of mine on your hearts and minds. Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your forehead teach them to your children."
There was someone out their 3,200 years ago, familiar with the scripture and what now is in the Pentateuch know as the Book of Deut. 11:17.
They read this proto-hebrew or they hear these words from the Elders of Israel, hey I am from the tribe of Dan, and I stand on the mount of curses. I love you God Almighty and I am going too prove it. I will put these words to action on my heart, I will use an amulet. I will follow through with this verse.
Know this Brother's- if YAHWEH is your Father then we are 'brothers' - so we do see that it really does depend on Whom is your Father!
I used to also do TV interviews in Israel- had the Biggest Media outlets in the world show up- the film crews were all professional and polite- but that's where the Good Times ended and The World began- as all their reports, film footage was sent unto their Editors in NYC and London where they made The Christian message 'devoid of anything real and relevant!!'
Here I must also include Much of main-stream Christian denominations as Traditions are hard to break and they definitely Will reject anything that 'threatens' their traditional (However erroneous) usages of- LORD/God/Jehovah or even the Letter 'J' !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Push-Backers- worldly people always 'need' money and recognition and The Enemy has ALL the $ and worldly resources on their side- so Expect them to come at you from ALL sides!
I leave you guys with this, as David replied to Goliath- (But I come to you in- The Name of YAHWEH' 1Sam.17.45!)
Bo Yehoshua,
HalleluYAH
I can’t see the writing. Do you have a way to make the tablet bigger so we can see the writing?
The text they are discussing is on the inside of inside of the tablet and cannot be seen at this time except through the use of scanning technologies. They will also be releasing information about text on the outside of the tablet, but that will not come until late summer or fall when they release all of their findings for peer review.
@@abrother9821 god bless you and yours, I’m so grateful you took some time to explain all this to me. I’ll be watching for more information on this tablet. Again thank you
Can someone tell whats the significance of "to this day" means in Joshua? When was it written after the original events and after Moses? "to this day" sounds it was written quite long after the original events.
I do believe that this is an authentic find, but as God is my witness, I am going to be soooooo upset and disappointed if this turns out to be a hoax.
From an academic perspective, there are several possible issues here. 1/ it seems the people researching this stuff are coming in with very definite biases in terms of a framework of belief, this is fine, but needs to be acknowledged and the appropriate steps taken regarding accounting for bias which is what we try and do in the social sciences for example (that would include things like confirmation bias) 2/ This is unpublished work, not yet peer reviewed but being marketed as conclusive, and the press-releases done before the paper is published in a respected journal. 3/ The image associated with the word used for God is shown is a very clear black and white rendering, however, the image processing that has been done here would need to be shown to be purely algorithmic and not based on assumptions as to what letters were present for the interpretation to seem solid.
Hi, I'm a JW so I spend a lot of time reading through the Bible, although we all have different views sometimes, I think we can definitely agree there is plenty of evidence out there supporting the scriptures historical accuracy! And this is definitely amazing! Just goes to show Jehovah causes to become. No matter how hard the world tries to blot him out, it will never succeed.
Do JWs believe Jesus was the Archangel Michael?
@@lmt1550 Hi, yes.
When we're theses found ?? I'm sure I've missed some info
The tablet was discovered in 2019 at the Mt. Ebal site in Israel. Here is a summary of the press conference on the day that this was first announced: czcams.com/video/5bxPpZvFonc/video.html
Now that it's been published, you can see the claims are nonsense.
What would be the reason for writing such a tiny tablet?
It’s folded and there is writing on the inside as well. They can’t unfold it for fear of damaging it, so they’ve been using different types of scan to try to pull text from the inside. Unfolded, it would be larger.
In the bible they were told to put a curse on Mt ebal, and a blessing on mt Gerizim. In the book of Joshua I think. That was about 1400 BC and so this tablet is presumably from the same period.
There actually is a very large amount of scholars from R1 universities like Harvard, Yale, Duke who are saying some very curious. I am not saying I agree with them, but all the secrecy is a bit troubling
So now your claiming to have also found the writing implement that wrote this script? At the same site?? Seems way to convenient??? Please explain
Cool
He says they have the stylus that wrote it, but he doesn’t sound too sure lol!
Does it matter? They got the tablet.
@@Prophetess9738 The 2 cm x 2 cm tablet. The question about the pen has to do with the question of how could someone write on such a small tablet, fitting 23 words and 40 proto-Hebrew characters on it.
@@bradatherton9369 Well, apparently they did, unfortunately they cannot pry it open without damaging it. Atleast now we know that they did write that far back in time and was knowledgeable enough to write on metal, however impossible it may seem to us now.
Whether they get the stylus or not is irrelevant, when they have solid proof in their hands.
What I don't understand is how such a serious discovery is laughing matter for some people. If this would have been a discovery in some Asian country, I am sure there would be no opposition, and these people would have lauded the 'mystic powers of mother earth' Or some nonsense like that. SMH
10 instances of 'cursed' (Hbw: arur) @ 4 letters (alef-resh-waw-resh) is 40 letters right off. What about the other words like 'YHW' and 'die' and 'God' (El)? The modern Hebrew text of the curse inscription has 61 letters! Please explain.
I believe he explained this in the interview. It's not "modern" Hebrew, it's proto-alphabetic.
@@MineStrongth Bingo! Scott Stripling mentioned it is proto-Hebrew or paleo-Hebrew. What the other person may have been angling toward is where do we get the certainty of the translation when there are characters that are outside the character set? Are there many other sources written in the same or similar alphabet, that of which we have reliable cross-translation? It feels like there is the possibility of uncharted territory, considering Semitic, Hebrew and Phoenician languages all had 22 characters. Akkadian had a few hundred characters, and used symbols moreso than letters. A solid explanation for the additional 18 characters of this proto-Hebrew language would be very helpful and grease the skids for the scholarly types who need more evidence-based content with a properly written backstory.
Why have we not seen the CT scan images of the inside of this artifact. We only have the sketch of the script. Why not release atleast a few photos so that more than one group of people can make translations. Some skeptics are saying that it all seems a little too convenient for all of your findings to be accurate.
The names of God on the led tablet and the time period may be spot on since it was at this time that Moses asked what should he tell people His name is; God replied “I AM WHO I AM” (El, [the God]) . God also said to Moses, “Say this to the people of Israel: YHWH, [the God ]of your ancestors,[ the God ]of Abraham, [the God ]of Isaac, and [the God ]of Jacob-has sent me to you. This is my eternal name, my name to remember for all generations.
Exodus 3: 14-15
Why would they make such a small tablet to begin with?
Imagine you had to source your own lead from the ground with hand-made tools and smelt it. How large of a tablet would you make?
Israelites in the Americans before 1492.
The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand,
He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
What is puzzling me is this idea that curse tablets of this kind are well known to archaeologists from study of other, much later, time periods and other unrelated cultures such as the Greeks. I don't see why the Children of Israel would've been using something that "belongs" to another culture and time. I'm not doubting the significance of the find, and I agree it's very exciting, but I wish this question would be answered.
Written text is well known to be used by 21st-century people in North America. Is it also puzzling to conceive of ancient Romans using something that "belongs" to another culture and time?
Maybe the practice actually started earlier and it's the Greeks who used something from another culture and time.
Check out 'one for israel' on youtube the dude explains your question on the video they have on this topic. I cant remember but i know they answer your question.
Huh. If what Scott is saying about Christopher are true then he pretty much brought this on himself lol.
Israel Finklestein has always been insistent in his clear bias towards disproving ALL things to do with archeological finds which go a very long way in proving Biblical text. The Lord is opening up the academic world in both science and archeology, to reveal Himself as our Creator God, and beautiful Father!
One day in the not too distant future, science will go full circle, and they will prove that the universe was created, and they will begin to prove the God of all things lives!
🙏🙏🙏
Is there a curse on the tablet
There is. You can watch the full press conference here where they talk in more detail about the tablet: czcams.com/video/VDD92qp_lfQ/video.html
Where dose it place Egypt now
Once peer-reviewed and verified, this would strongly support the earlier date for the Exodus.
This is exciting who would have been pharaoh
@@Bimfirestarter Egyptian chronology could be that off that Ramses 2 reigned during Solomon? Wow! Not sure I’ve ever heard that before. Unbelievable.
It places Egypt firmly on the side of the loser as always! 🙏✝️🕎
@@Bimfirestarter doesn't that timeline view also end up reducing weird gaps in other cultures where we seem to have missing history under the accepted Egypt timeline?
Another note... It is a cursed place... Nobody with sin should stand there...
I was told to come here but as predicted ..I am still left wondering why someone can translate something into English from an language they don't even understand and why if it has been 'hidden' for over 2000 years why you can't show us ALL the writing... where is the 3d scan? It all sounds like mumbo jumbo..
If the letters were made into lead then if you open it they would still be visible..
Perhaps it is because noone is brave enough to actually open a 'cursed' object?
I dunno... quite a few things just don't add up. and his explanations aren't helping..
Edit even the word 'collaboration' is a little strange used only when attempting to produce something (which shouldn't be necessary as it apparently already exists noone needs to make anything together)
Or it refers to traitorous behaviour..
I agree there are reasons for skepticism, but here are some possible answers to your questions:
1. They have the roots for proto-Hebrew words and probable translations. That would likely explain why the number of letters appears small for the number of words.
2. The 3D scans aren't complete. Alternatively the scans are complete, but they don't want to publish the scans until the paper is finished which requires further analysis.
3. Lead is not indestructible, and attempting to open the tablet would compromise its integrity; they addressed this in the initial presentation.
4. "Collaboration" just means they have multiple scientists working on the paper/analysis. That's quite typical for any discovery of consequence.
@@NoogahOogah Pah..
The scans aren't complete.. yes we know its a simplified version of existing or previous languages but that's all he could show us?
Maybe my 'collaboration' remark was 'stretching the envelope' but otherwise, I'll need better 'possible explanations' to convince me yet..
But cheers
I'm in a similar position of healthy skepticism. I watched 3 hours of Scott Stripling videos on this trying to sift out facts from conjecture. He calls it proto-Hebrew or paleo-Hebrew, and mentions there are 40 characters used and 23 words. If you look closely at the characters he presents, calling them characters, although, they look more like symbols and particularly seems like a stretch to be drawn so articulately on a 2 cm x 2 cm tablet (with a lead pen). But hey, these guys are scientists so for the moment I'll give them some assumed credit along with a healthy dose of standoffishness.
I'm where you are though in wondering how they got from point A to point C. How much other documentation is recorded in this variant of proto-Hebrew? How do we get across time and geography and language to reach an English translation? Translation isn't 'we have it or we don't', it should be always expressed with a degree of certainty (%). Considering Hebrew, Semitic, Aramaic, and Pheonician all have 22 characters it poses a pretty big bridge to get across with the extra 18 characters and with what degree of certainty we understand/decode/translate them correctly.
Why is no one asking the most obvious question...how do you get from plaster covered stones (which is what God commanded the Israelites to write the words of the law upon) to a lead tablet (in the same passage in Dueteronomy He commanded them to use no lead tool upon the alter at least and all of it I assume)?
I don't think it sounds like a very obvious question. Why are you asking about a plaster-covered altar and the word of the law when the discussion is about a lead tablet? The curse tablet is obviously not an altar, so what Deut says about the altar seems irrelevant. There were also curses spoken at Mt Ebal in Deut which makes finding a curse tablet there significant.
Even though I want to believe badly on this tablet, I still not convinced that someone can write 40 words on such small peace of rock.
40 characters, 23 words. Even English writers could write that small given a proper pen.
Its lead. lead is quite malleable and soft
Maybe because it was such a powerful and frightening utterance, it was kept small and folded.