480 Hz Dual Mode is Ingenious
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- čas přidán 25. 06. 2024
- The LG 32GS95UE is kinda crazy: It's a 240 Hz 4K OLED monitor, but it can also do 480 Hz at 1080p with the press of a button.
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Index:
00:00 - Dual Mode Is Pretty Unique
01:31 - There Are 3 Different Dual Modes
02:08 - Response Times & Ghosting
03:58 - Gaming at 240 Hz 4K
04:45 - Gaming at 480 Hz 1080p
05:16 - Gaming at 480 Hz 1080p vs 240 Hz 4K
06:38 - Dual Modes Quality Loss
08:24 - Display Lag
09:08 - Adaptive Sync
09:49 - New Pixel Layout
11:12 - Brightness & Reflections
12:10 - HDR
12:44 - Color Accuracy & Recommended Settings
13:25 - Pixel Sound
14:18 - Conclusion - Věda a technologie
Back in my day, people said you couldn't tell a difference between 30 and 60fps......... Yet here we are 420hz later 😂
I used to think 120 fps was enough then I upgraded and could instantly see 165fps as a smoothness improvement. Im sure the jump in fps needs to be higher to perceive more smoothness eg. Instead of a 50 fps increase being noticeable I might need 100fps more to see another step and 200 fps more again to notice another gain in smoothness.
I think the most you go up when you go back down you notice it imediatly, i'm on 240hz, imagine i go to 480 or 540, my eyes will never be the same.
Strangely enough I remember this debate lol
i knew that argument was bs from the start
I don't remember this but I remember the days when people were saying HD displays were pointless because you can't tell the difference between 480p and 1080p from a normal viewing distance yet we have 8k displays these days.
The thing that amazed me the most when i bought my first 144hz monitor was not motion smoothness, but a reduction in input lag. The difference in mouse responsiveness was insane.
the input lag on that monitor was lower than on your old monitor, that is why the input delay felt amazing. The refresh rate helps to reduce MPRT so that helps with how smooth it looks for you and I would say for me, and for most people that was by far the biggest difference. My old 60hz monitor didn't have that bad of an input delay, the first 144hz TN monitor I got did have slightly better input delay, but it was the monitor's persistence/MPRT which made the biggest difference, since it was so much lower on 144hz compared to 60hz, in fact the time between frames on 60Hz is 16.67ms and on a144Hz it is 6.94ms, so that is a 9.73ms difference which is huge. That is why pretty much everybody can spot the difference in terms of motion clarity between a 60hz monitor and a 144hz monitor. Persistence has nothing to do with input lag tho.
the review I've been waiting for 🙏
They should add 1440p 360 Hz mode (or whatever refresh rate is possible given bandwidth limitations). That could be used with 1:1 mapping...
not sure - as that would mean interpolation
No it wouldn't, that's the point. 1440p in the middle would be like... 25inch screen?
@@honzakloswould be perfect honestly and I agree
21.33 inch, too small for me
In dual mode panel is scanning x2 pixel rows at once instead of x1. 2160/2=1080. Thats why its half the resolution and double the refresh rate. U don't want to do x1.3. To achieve true 1:1 pixel mapping at 1440p I guess panel would need to start and end the scan-out somewhere in between instead top-bottom, which I've never seen anyone doing. And 1440p would end up being only 21" on 31.5" 4k panel. Maybe in future they start doing this.
You should be able to achieve 2:1 or 1:1 pixel mapping simply by making custom resolutions yourself and disabling stretching in amd/nvidia control panel. For 1080p mode (2:1, 480Hz):
23.8" = 1454 x 818
24.5" = 1490 x 838
27" = 1646 x 926
For 4k mode (1:1, 240Hz) just x2 the resolution.
Do note that you're adding some latency with black bars.
Best review so far - really liked the FPS game comparisons
this video has 10x times more info than optimum tech video on the same monitor holy sh*t . Gold youtuber techless
great video, finally someone reviews it who is good at the games he tries ;-)
waiting for that same monitor with a glossy screen
abo ist da!
optimum?🤨
i could listen to this guy talk for hours his voice is so soothing 😅 also production quality is top notch, giving optimum a run for his money lol
Great review!
CRT monitors had this "feature" as well. Between some limits your maximum refresh rate could be higher if you selected lower resolution. De difference is that you did not need to press a button on a monitor. Whether Windows selected higher refresh rate when it was possible, I don't clearly remember though. And of course CRT-s had like 60 to 100Hz range, or something like that.
Waiting for 27 inch 1440p 480hz
me to.
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4k is king
@@Dew4lk 4k is tv king monitor is not good input latency is huge.. and no worth to game fps at 4k .. u only die vs pro gamers...
360hz is already a thing.
Best review. You covered my concern about the quality of 1080p stretched to a 32" display. As well as which of the 3 1080p modes look better. Thank you! Which Dac or soundcard is that? Thanks
1440p 480hz will be both visibility advantage and refresh rate advantage
I wish 32" one
Not to mention the reduction both in price and hardware requirements to actually run games at that refresh.
Why is this not a thing already? I dont understand the reason why 4K monitors exist. Isn't it just excessive pixels that you can't really tell apart anyways?
1440p is a visible upgrade, perhaps even beyond the point of diminishing returns, but still a good tradeoff refresh rate wise.
Explain more
@@deadend9104 what more is there to explain?
welchen monitor würdest du empfehlen für 1440p? ich versuche es auc hetwas budget zu halten, ich habe an den KTC H27T22 gedacht da du es in einem anderen video sehr gelobt hast, dies war jetzt schon aber einige monate her, ich höre auc hvon vielen das das LG 27GN800P-B auc hsehr gut sein soll. was ist deine aktuelle empfehung für region deutschland?
I just preordered this monitor, ships this Friday ! I can’t wait
Is your icc profile srgb or is it still wide gamut? Wondering if it’s can be used for photo editing
Would love to hear from you about the new firmware for Lg 32 inch woled monitor, it fixed the HDR quality according to parch notes.
Can you please confirm or deny if this dual-herz panel runs in integer scale 4x4 pixel-perfect mode when using 1080p? Maybe you can make some macro photos of this mode?
Have you heard the studio display speakers? How do the speakers compare if you have. Great channel. Just found you.
oh nahh not the studio display speakers 😂
Waiting for this to be available in Europe, it's the perfect monitor for me coming from a 1440p 360hz IPS (Asus pg27aqn), having 4K@240 for work/desktop and 1080p 480hz for sweaty e-sports is what I was trying to achieve with the 1440p@360hz monitor while failing slightly at both.
where do you get these wallpapers they look so good
Is the matte coating the same as the older LG monitors or did they improve it?
the matte coating is objectively not a dealbreaker with how high the pixel density of 4k 32" is. optimum made a video on it, trust me, you will NOT see the difference between coatings as much as you think you will
I am really liking your videos but I am very interested in those headphones. Are those Hifiman Ananda or Arya Stealth ? Also what are the iems that you wise with the nice white translucent cable ?
Hifiman Ananda V2 and Moondrop Aria Snow 😉
any chance you could test if the 1080p 480hz Full wide mode works with an Elgato capture card? like a 4K X? even if you need to run it at 1080p 240hz full wide that would be fine for me too.
hey, i've heard people say with this monitor that the 24" or 27" crop mode for 1080p makes it look worse/blurrier/granier than the actual 32" 1080p full screen mode. is this true?
Sonds interresting! But what would happen if I have a 4k display and just set the ingame rez to 1080p?
:-)
I can’t go back to 1080p after using 1440p for so long. Looking at my second monitor (1080p) looks straight up fuzzy by comparison and I don’t think my rig has enough power to push 4K as well as I would like.
I can’t seem to find an answer anywhere. Does DLDSR work in the 480hz mode? Surely that would help with the sharpness if it did
It would not, due to DSC being enabled in both modes on this monitor =(.
DLDSR limits my 165hz monitor to 120hz refresh rate max. 120hz is probably the maximum refresh rate you can have with DLDSR on from my understanding.
@@gorgils1 Ahh, thanks for the response! On my PG27AQN, DLDSR cannot be used when DSC is enabled. When I disable DSC (as there is a setting for doing that on the monitor), I can then enable DLDSR. However, disabling DSC also limits my refresh rate to 240hz (whereas it can be set to 360hz with DSC still being enabled).
These new WOLED panels do not have an OSD option to disable DSC. So, I don't think that you will even see the DSR option in the Nvidia Control Panel. However, people who ordered the new LG WOLED monitor on day 1 are getting them delivered today! So hopefully we will get to see what options we have on reddit later today =).
I feel like its a 2 steps forward and 1 step back kind of thing, I wonder why they didn't do a 1 go 1 pixel map for the lower resolution? While they are at it they should add the ability to center the image at the bottom of the screen because your going to be sitting a lot closer potentially with your hands underneath the monitor operating the mouse and keyboard. Thats the case for me already as I must be that close for my glasses to be in focus. A 4K 27 inch that can be dropped to 1440p seems like a better combo to me. Assuming they can get the pixel density that high with oled.
What should I pick? Q27G2, G271CQR, 25G3ZM, AG323FCXE, PG27Q15R2, hyperx armada 25 240hz they are similar in pricing
1:37 on Misano is a good time, do you race only public lobbies or have you joined LFM? Either way, its cool to see you into sim racing haha : P
Thanks! I finally have enough SA to join LFM, but haven't tried it yet.
Currently working on getting below 1:35 on Misano :-)
@@techlessYT dang, very nice haha you'll do very well then : D enjoy it and hope to maybe see some sim racing content in the future ! Cheers
I mean yeah it’s expensive but consider an Apple Studio Display is 5k @ 27” and is not OLED and only 60hz and retails for $1500. You can get this monitor down to around $1K with coupons and cashback too. The real question for me though is if 32” is too big after being used to 27” and actually preferring 24-25”.
Could you evaluate the strengths and weaknesses of the XG272-2K-OLED and AW2725DF? Especially noting that the XG272-2K-OLED is a 2H2D interface monitor! It seems that its A/D board is relatively different from other 27" OLED monitors. Additionally, I suggest that your future LCD monitor reviews include an introduction to the A/D board for each model.
LG 32GS95UE => real 10bit(non-frc)
LG 27GR95QE & 27GS95QE => 10bit(8bit+frc)
Is there a reason LG goes with 1080p instead of 1440p ? the panel should be able to do this or ?
Most LCDs these days have to be run at 5/100 or so brightness in a moderately bright room, so there's no point comparing to them, no-one needs anywhere near full brightness that LCDs provide.
If anyone has tips on how they setup HDR o this monitor I'd love to know. I use the ICC profile here, but the HDR looks terrible after using the win 11 calibration tool for it. Everything from steam ui and some games looks washed out to hell and colors just look weird.
As someone waiting for this gen of oled monitors to settle later this year before diving in the would be significantly more compelling with a price cut. As cool as these features are this simply costs too much.
heyy nice video,, what's the website/music player at 14 minutes? :3
Thanks! That's epidemic sound.
Can buy the MSI MPG 321URX QD-OLED, 32" 4K UHD and a 480hz 1080p monitor for cheaper if I wanted 1080p there's plenty of cheaper options out there
This is a well made product from LG. However, after I played on a 360hz 1080p monitor I realized 1440p was much better. I ended up replacing that monitor with a 1440p 240hz monitor. I think that whenever oled 1440p 480hz monitors come out I will snag one.
I was well keen on this feature, but lost my nerve and pulled the trigger on the Alienware 4K 240hz.
how would running DLDSR from an Nvidia card on the 480hz mode look?
Unfortunately, this will not work (probably). You usually need to be able to run the full bandwidth (no DSC) to be able to turn this on. I made a post in here, where I changed my buying decision to an LG G2 55 inch instead, because I felt cheated by these manufaturers (insane pricing).
Got a good deal for 1000 dollars with calman calibration and cannot recommend it more! Also, I run DLDSR/DSR in all titles and have better brightness on 25% windows than these smaller monitors can deliver.
I'm confused. LG support said that you don't need DSC for both 240hz 4k and 1080p at 480hz, but I don't see any information about the monitor having DP 2.0. As far as I know, it only has a HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4 with DSC and HDMI 2.1 can not do 240hz native 4k even at 8bit, it isn't even close so either LG is lying or then I'm missing something, someone please explain.
I do know that both HDMI 2.1 and DP 1.4 can do 240hz at 4k with DSC but I am talking about without it, which is what they claim. Max data rate of a HDMI 2.1 is 41.92 Gbit/s which is enough for 1080p 480hz at 8bit ( Data Rate Required: 31.96 Gbit/s for 480hz at 1080p 8 bit without DSC, CVT-R2 ) but it isn't nearly enough for 240hz at 4k ( Data Rate Required: 54.84 Gbit/s for 240hz 4k at 8bit, CVT-R2 ) that is way beyond what HDMI 2.1 can do, also most people would probably want to play 4k at 10bit anyway and for that you need 68.56 Gbit/s data rate. HDMI 2.1 with DSC and then you can even do 12 bit 240hz 4k, but again that is with DSC and since they claim that you do not need DSC for both, I would like to know what am I missing here?
Why no mention of the very inaccurate luminance tracking in HDR? It doesn't bother you?
Doesn't bother me tbh 🤔
Sooo sick of CZcamsrs getting this monitor so early, but my pre-order from over a MONTH AGO still hasn't shipped. How many ads does LG need? Christ man
doesn't it say it's estimated to ship april 15th when you go to preorder?
Isnt this shipping next summer though? Atleast in EU its june or july.
It's almost like preordering a product means you get it... when they release it...
I am noticing a lot of ghosting, is it obvious in IRL too ?
Review twisted minds TM22FHD100IPS budget monitor please
Need a 42inch 240hz 4k OLED that can do this so it covers single player glory.
Do you prefer the 1440p 360hz qled over the 480hz 1080p woled?
get a 1440p 480hx
hz
Man sieht sich im nächsten video always takes my of gard. I i always forget xD
No 1440p 1:1 option kills this for me. Cool idea though. I am excited for true 480hz 4K since my eyes don't need anything better for 2D content. Stereoscopic monitors are another matter though
Apart from weird pixel mapping and interpolation, it is also worth mentioning that reducing display size to 27 or 24 increases the risk of pixel degradation within that display area. You can develop a darker square in the middle of the screen, if you use it often.
It's really nice, but 1080 is just a little low now.
This would be perfect on a 5k monitor. As 1440p is 1/4th of 5k.
Even better to get that in 5K in 16:10 aspect ratio.
DO i use DP1.4 or HDMI 2.1 for this monitor for my PC?
Display Port. HDMI is worse than VGA.
@@saricubra2867???
Waiting for 27 inch 4K 240hz
i actually wish this tech isn't patented and some manufacturer gives console gamers a 4K60 HZ/ 1080P 120HZ or even double de Refresh Rate and include black frame insertions, that would be my dream monitor
How about also a video about matt vs glossy? Within the same OLED technology (QD vs W)
Waiting for this Monitor
This should've been a 24'' 1440p. It's the same pixel density.
I’d buy a 24” 1440p 360hz (at least) OLED in a heartbeat.
I would buy this immediately
My dream monitor
If these types of monitors are possible, I'm hoping for a monitor that can do 4k240hz/2k360hz/1080p480hz all in one AND is an OLED
A CRT at 85Hz looks way better in motion than OLEDs at 360Hz and beyond.
Which has better text clarity - the new 32" QD-OLEDs or this display?
I would like to know that, too…
Everything I have seen gives the win to w-oled
After one year my ASUS ROG Swift PG27AQDM just got one green dead pixel. Not sure if they'll even consider an rma knowing it's just one...
Is it distracting at normal viewing distance?
@@carloscorona3143 to me it is yes
What I want to know is... how don't people get eyestrain or just have difficulty following the action in fast-paced games on a 32" display, at 1080p no less? My desk is huge and I still can't push my 32" monitor far enough back... definitely going much smaller for my next monitor, I want these specs in a 24" to 27" max size...
Do you have a keyboard tray? My new 32" felt pretty big on my Karlby-top IKEA desk. I installed a tray, which backs me up nearly another foot plus lowers the keyboard to a more comfortable position, and now it feels a lot like using my old 27", with the option of leaning in for more immersion.
@@LouisHochmanTheJourno No tray right now and can't measure at the moment (not home) but I recall I was at least 3ft away. No problem, 27" 4k high refresh monitors are becoming a big thing.
wait for triple mode monitor, add 1440p 360hz 😶🌫
Does 1080p look ok on this?
Didn't you watch the Video?😂
Off topic and just out of curiosity, what's your peak rank in Valorant?
plastic 4
Same as optimum
Diamond 2 😔
@@techlessYT Nice. My peak was D2 as well for quite a while. Just touched D3 this week. I believe you can do it too. Cheers.
Going from 60hz to 120hz is a massive difference - literally like night vs day, way less input lag, nice smooth animations. Going from 120hz to 144hz - almost identical. Going from 144hz to 240hz - subtle differences noticed, mouse movements and scrolling feels smoother and in-game animations feel slightly smoother. Going from 240hz to 480hz - completely pointless, can't tell the difference in animations or smoothness or input lag. One thing I will say is that dropping to 1080p 480hz makes the image quality look like ass. Better to keep it on 4K 240hz. Just make sure you have a RTX 4080 Super or RTX 4090 to drive it. I have the Gigabyte Aorus FO32U2P 4K 240hz monitor - very similar to this LG one except it is QD OLED and glossy screen with full DP 2.1 (80gbps).
Full DP 2.1 with a Nvidia card that doesn't support it. Alright.
@@hiramabiff604 Doesn't support it 'yet.' For now it works at 4K 240hz using DSC. But the 5090/5080 are right around the corner and will support it natively. Planned for the best, prepaired for the worst.
1:44, does someone know if I can size my 27 inch picture to 24 inch? I have an Acer Monitor
The monitor has to support this itself
Yeah, you could. You’ll have to make a custom resolution. At 1440 27inch monitor, you can make a custom resolution of 2304x1296 to make 24.5 in with black borders. If you do this with gpu scaling, you lose a bit of performance and some latency gain (maybe 3ms max tbf).
@@techieg33knot really
nice
99% of people don’t need this.. 240Hz is more than enough
I'm never going to play the kind of game where I want a high refresh rate.
Heck, in the few games I still play, I cap the refresh at 30, 60, or 90 Hz.
I'm interested in HDR, but I really don't care about refresh. I'm actually thinking about getting a 60 Hz 4K.
C3 at 120hz for $900 or less seems like a sweet spot for you. You can still limit down if you wanted to but would have the headroom to go up if you wanted.
I’m stuck between this and the 3225QF…
What did you get?
@@michaelsoto4156 I tried the 3225QF and while it’s an amazing monitor, I can’t control the light in my room; so I got the LG.
Honestly i want one of these to use 4k playing AA and indie games then 1080p for playing older retro games that tend to not look at at anything over 1080p. I haven't found anyone testing 1080p for anytime except for shooters...i just don't think i can justify the cost to find out myself... And the icing on the cake is no officially stated burn in warranty
I can choose any refresh rate between 50 and 160Hz on my Samsung 1440p CRT following the horizontal frequency of the monitor.
Not impressive.
People, if you need more than 240hz on oled, I really feel like you aren't enjoying what you got. I want resolution and fast panel, if I have to go down to 1080 to achieve this, then it's not worth it.
I want this monitor bad, but the price is too high atm.
$900 msi qd oled 32 inch 4K with 3 years burn in warranty with better colors and brightness. No idea why would you want this lg at all. Unless you really need 1080p 480Hz blurry mode but you have no idea that 240 Hz with instant pixel response time has superb clarity no matter what.
Price is too high and I do not even want it.
It is not glossy, does not offer 3 years of burn-in warrant, not to mention, absence of all other "never without" features...
@@MrM-dl5zm$900 MSI UPX monitor doesn’t include firmware update. Pixel cleaning is also bugged at 16hrs cycle.
$1400 lol ... this one headed for the discount bin
Love how LG produced a few hundred of these monitors that will be unavailable until later this year and shipped them out to techfluencers in an effort to stop potential buyers from getting QD-OLED panels.
going up , you wont notice too much, but everytime you downgrade, it is massive difference.
told myself 240hz is more than enough 2 years ago upgrading from 144. but now if i use 144, i can see the difference instantly, it is fluid, but choppy looking.
being able to 480hz or just 360hz is defintely for ppl that actually try hard in the game, and actually getting benefit from.
Since 11 years have the same monitor in 60hz 😆 Will upgrade next year to oled.
1080p at 32 inches just isn’t enough pixel density for me. I just don’t like seeing the pixels
Idk where to check if it can do it at a 24.5 inch window
Why not make a 1080p Monitor in the first place?
why are they trying to avoid 1440p ? wtf
i used a 27 FHD for fps games like valorant and it sucks, imagine a 32...
can you custom res 2k reso with 360hz?
What do you noob think 2K is?
2 year burn in warranty which is nowhere written on the page. Once you have burn in within the 2 years and you wanna claim you have no proof except this video :D
Edit: they even say so on their Page which your link refers to, when you go to LG. First question asked is, if it has burn in warranty and they say no.
That's interesting 🤔 Just shared this with my contact at LG.
@@techlessYT lemme know what tey say about it. really curious.
So basically you're saying we need 4k 480hz 😛
Why this man using Big Head Cheats in 2024
Men , OLED would be perfect if it wasnt by burning and brightness decrease over time , ooh and those fucking prices of course
Me watching on 720p phone
Still slower than a crt monitor from 20 years ago
Honestly, 32 inch minimum 😅
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“dual mod” 😂
1440p moniters are like 2.5G network interfaces. The industry thought we would jump from 1G to 10G, but it's incredibly expensive for diminishing returns. Same thing with 1080p to 4k, it's just too taxing on hardware in most cases to take advantage of.
1080p on 32 is gonna look like dogshit. End of video 😅
960 Hz are the Only way , everything else is too slow....
Ever heard about diminishing returns?
too*
6:22 The real benefit on games like Val with such high frame rate isn't so much fps for clicking heads, but the benefit when sniping.
When using awp/operator you get to react and flick so much better with higher frame rate. It makes the biggest difference in this scenario.
The difference here is night and day with high fps.
i game on 32 inch 1280 x 1024 ..... no problems when u have sharp monitor and good quality settings in game x16 and x8mssa.. noone is gaming at 4k increase system latency is huge.. at full hd and 1440p.. the most with 4090... Why you game fps at 4k when input system latency jumps up.
Blud coping with his 55ppi screen
It's nice. But don't be fooled. I got the LG G2 55 OLED instead and paid 1000$ with calman calibration. It is 1 meter 20 cm away and it is amazing! It is bright, it is glossy, it uses the full 120 Hz (4090 delivers 120 fps often) and I can upscale with DSR because it uses the full HDMI 2.1 bandwidth without DSC.
Give it 1-2 years and the price on this one might be right, but don't be fooled.
55” on a desk is fucking insane I’m sorry. Max I’d go is 42” and that’s pushing it.
$1000 for a 3 year old 55 inch tv is pretty foolish if you ask me lol but ok
You guys, I thought so too. But you cannot deny the beauty and quality before you experience it. $1000 and it's an OLED with heatsink (originally almost 3000). It sits flush against the wall - so the distance is perfect - but I agree that it is subjective and for some it could be too big. It really is not though, for me, I never have to move my head - check, have cinema size - check, it is bright at 10 And 25% windows, check.
Except over 50% white it starts to dim. I could disable ABL but I do not mind, I can imagine that some would find it bothersome when opening a full white screen, but mostly having only one window white max open it still has 100% brightness.
It is just my opinion, but this is much, much more value for the money, especially since the latest GPU does often not give much more than 120 FPS on games with better graphics and these new monitors do not support DSR due to DSC (it's more about the distance and aliasing than anything else).
Just my 5 cents and I believe it's smarter to go with an LG G2, 3 or even 4 until these Monitors are cheaper and at least have DP 2.1 with UHBR20.
@@nathanaelniklaus2981 if you really care THAT much about image quality, you should of just picked up the S90C refrubed for $1100 off Amazon. The G2 is a pretty old model, doesn't get bright at all. Especially in game mode
55 inch as a desktop monitor??? Lower ppi than a 1080p 24 inch monitor from that distance is crazy LOL.