Does It Matter Which Intake You Buy? Intake Dyno Shootout
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- čas přidán 16. 10. 2017
- Do most aftermarket intakes make the same power? We find out by testing 3 most popular brands on our 2005 Ford Mustang GT.
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In conclusion: there is no difference.
You're all welcome
In conclusion: that’s YOUR unsubstantiated opinion. Everybody else, you’re all welcome.
@@RedEye19
...uh, no, that's what they actually said.
But hey, you're welcome 😄
It looks cool, and makes the vehicle sound better....and something else to spend money on.......which I have to much of anyway .....right!!!!
In conclusion: stock intake had more power over all of them...
I don’t mess with intakes anymore and go straight to headers , muffler , etc
Thanx
it's funny how people think one horsepower doesn't matter, back in the old West one horse is all most people had
This isn't the old west. $300 for 1 hp? I'll just go buy a used horse.
matthew anderson 😁
@@AdamWaddle lmao so true
U want a scholarship to Harvard ?
Idk if this makes a point. Still its hilarious.
I would of liked to see a baseline with the stock intake.
Then just watch the video again. The stock intake will make about the same power until you really start to deviate from the stock engine. Aftermarket "cold" air Intakes on most street cars are usually just for looking cool.
but...but...but...guys. brand X's pipe and filter is super superior to brand Y's idential pipe and comparable filter!
This actually proves that throttle body spacers make you lose power. Good test 👍
Should’ve tested the $50 eBay special as well.
Its just a pipe so the one that had similar dimensions should make similar power with a proper intake. But truuue
For me, it goes to show just how good intake design can influence the torque curve.
Your first two runs show that the experiment is consistant by the fact that both curves sit right on top of each other for shape. Good job of elliminating experimental error.
Now, that loss of torque at around 4200rpm on the third intake - that's around 5 or 6% along with a 1-2% loss lower down.
I realise that you were being "diplomatic" but for me that would be a pisser. 5% at 4200rpm is NOT insignificant - that's a direct 5% loss of acceleration, right where it's best utilised on the road too.
Remember, it's TORQUE that accelerates a car, NOT power.
Great video, great experimentation, well put together, but guys ... tell it like it is.
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Cool comparison! I'm currently running an Airaid MXP on my truck (FBO+/Up/Rev tuned). Just FYI - The MXP is the only "4" CAI available on the market for my truck & definitely better than the AEM Bruteforce that it replaced. I recently swapped out the MXP filter itself for an RC2 Black Hex Series one. I really like the design of the RC2, it's non-oiled & super easy to clean also!
Thanks for the video. Would be interesting to see if adding the spacer to the other two recreated the same dips in the curve.
The two aftermarket ADR intakes that made the most HP in Australia.
Were the Harrop over the radiator intake and the Walkinshaw airbox intake.
Always fun watching the boys doing dyno shoot outs... I miss the badass 2000 though
Well said, that’s why I watch your stuff. Always trying to be sensible in a hobby filled with emotional, quick to conclude hot heads 👍
Love how diplomatic you have to be
This is a great video I would love to see one for 5.3 or 6.0 Silverado between Aem, air raid,banks and volant.
Great video! I'm happy with my K&N intake.
Congrats on 150k guys!
Very good video, 20 years ago I was like you, digging every single power or exhaust. In reality based on the curve , it makes non significant gain . But in theory , yes. 0-100km/h by 0.001 sec. 1cm.
Thanks for the comparison this was great!
Always down to watch a good three way video. 🤣
What kind of power did stock intake make?
Guys, in my opinion, when the engineers design the intakes systems, they do emulate the real scenario. They are not thinking that we are running our cars with the hood opened. I think, to do a fair comparison of this kind of things, you have to emulate the real conditions as much as possible. Hopefully, that might do the difference, like the spacer between the throttle and the intake manifold to not transfer the heat to the intake....
Btw, I love the channel and the focus of the content. Good job!
Oh totally, this is the best real world testing we have access to. Next time we'll try with the hood closed.
the hood shud be closed so that the intake can create suction
I’ve been looking for someone that Dyno’s each kind. Great video
I knew it is just engine sound changing option. But man, feels like u gain so much power when install it.
I know it’s late but thanks for taking the time to make this video.
Like that input you had in the end as opposed to some videos, articles, and forums, not a lot, just saying this is better than that.
Great video guys.
S&b is the best looking intake kit, it seal all the hot air coming from the engine and it sound awesome.
Good information
Thanks
I loved watching horsepower TV on the weekends as a kid with those two older men. They were funny!
Run the test with the hood closed. See which one actually still pulls cold air in.
@@MaDDeX93 Not so. The K&N Filter on their Intake Systems are designed to act like a ram air system where air is sucked in. Thats why they are shapped like a cone.
Duh dude!! Please use your brain.
@@extremedrivr thats not ram air lol. Ram air sucks in oitside air and is actually in the direct path of incoming air, not sitting under the hood. Already widely known cai are a waste
@@trudeaumustgo1920 A waste huh?? Check this video and see how uneducated you are.
czcams.com/video/weZrNmISjaE/video.html
And you obviously don't understand how air flows because with a CAI like K&N for example, the air is comming from under the vehicle or from the grill depending on the vehicle and engine because the heat shield is blocking the under hood air.
So your point is moot.
The plastic would stay cooler
@@extremedrivr coldest air is out side the engine bay, where stock intakes get their air, not under the hood. Yeah lets suck air from 6 inches beside the header. You probably drive a civic and think you just gained 100hp
I remember a video where the guys installed long tube headers on a small block chevy. They had it on the dyno and were smashing each tube with a hammer bit by bit, until they were almost flat lol. Dyno numbers didn't really change. 🤣
Forgot to use provided stickers from the manufacturer, those add couple HP though.
Installed k&n filter in my 96 Chevy. Don't feel more power but I have way better throttle response. And you can hear the engine breathing lol
I think one issue with all of these tests is the hood is open and a big fan is blowing at the intake so it doesn't really represent real world conditions. I understand a dyno test is like that but this gives an advantage to these air filters vs stock snorkel type intakes. I would bet on the road with hood closed there is no difference and possible a decrease in horsepower as the stock intakes insulate against heat better and route the air better with hood closed my 2 cents.
there is a video by engineering explained that just used aftermarket drop in filters and saw a 3-5% gain I believe in HP and torque using a k&n filter over the stock one
Thank you for this video. Question, 2004 Lincoln Town Car, heavy-If I were to add a high flow fuel pump, ecu & tune, cold air intake, injectors=more power would it improve the mpg?
Would you be able to do a dyno test going back to the original if possible. Would be really Intrested to see what differences there are. I run a k and n factory replacement on my original set Up would be Intrested to see if it makes any difference as well.
Awesome video!
The bigger the better
But for a small to medium pod filter the 3A was tested as the best.
We have alot of Aussie made intakes.
That are Aussie car specific.
Obviously the more surface area the better.
Oiled filters tend to dirty up the electronic airflow sensor's in the intakes.
Very good test
Nice..been wondering about this
Try the other filters with the spacer!
Volant Close Box Air Intakes! Thats what's im running on my CTS
A. I cant speak for all cars, but I tested my intakes temperature before and after a SRI install and the difference was minimal. What I did notice was that the stock intake sucked up more water then the SRI.
B. Before you criticize someone for putting an intake on there car, stop and think that it might be there first project or first time picking up tools if they even have any tools at all. It's a car part that they can afford and is super easy to install with basic tools. At least there trying to learn.
You should try the factory air box again the cold air intake
AIRAIDE IS #1.IF YOUR REASUNG THIS GET ON OFF OF AMAZON...TRIED K&N. BUT IT WAS RESTICTED.. AIRAIDE.. WAS AMAZING
My K&N is just fine! 13' Taurus
The square airade is legendary
Reading some of the comments and it cracks me up. But.... But.... But... But nothing there all the same. 🤣 Thanks for the video guys. Also I was going to put one of those intake spacers in but not now. Thanks again 👍
I for one am a big fan of the Mustang series keep it up fellas .
I don't even drive a Mustang but I really appreciate your thoughtful & unbiased summary at the end. You guys make great videos!
It’s time for a new build series please 🙏🏼
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I would liked to have seen the stock unit also
I think it's funny that every one of these test they never close the hood to check the entire system and the effectiveness of the heat shield and or box used in the system.
craigslue it’s to stop the engine overheating, the fan is not nearly enough to provide adequate air
Craigslue, you are right even they never close the hood on the Dyno test effectiveness of the air intake systems and their entirety to see which works best off course no is going to drive down the street with their hood open, what about air intake temps? Even though there's heatshield where's the cold coming from for a denser air charge. In my opinion it is short RAM intake that's not secluded from the engine bay, yeah you can give your products name's but does really serve it's purpose behind the name by or just gimmick and lies
@@francojordan8048 You're absolutely right. I've only personally experienced TWO "true CAI" Intakes.
- My 02 Mustang GT. The Intake Tube LEAVES the Engine Bay completely! The Inlet and Filter are inside the right Fenderwell.
- My 87 Buick Grand National (GAWD I miss her!). The Inlet and Filter were fed by a Nylon Ram Air Scoop that mounted under the front Bumper.
The ONLY CAI I've installed, that actually gave me a seat of the pants difference!!!
The rest.... They look cool, they sound cool. And although they don't give an appreciable increase in Power...
What they DO, is increase the *potential* of many of your other Mods.
That one is definitely not mentioned enough! 😉
PoorManRC did your GN have a intercooler? Because if that’s so you don’t need a “cold air” intake, you want to lessen restriction. Intercooler is what keeps intake air temps down
craigslue yup a guy on r/t lifes channel says they do the tests with the hood open and that closed box’s are the best people who do these tests need to close the hood then see what happens i bet there jaw will drop lol 😂
Why havent you guys tested with a Standard intake aswell, just put it in the same diagram :) ! Whould love to see that.
I think why the aem wasn't as good is probably the considerable angle of the intake tube like it's in an s versus the slight s for the K&N and the other although maybe it's the filter shape too cause such a big flat end can slow the air intake I guess
Working on the same car I am with the same mods I’m looking to put on my car? That’s an immediate sub gained
Great work on a thorough and unbiased test.
pls take my 370z and test stock intake vs ram air vs stillen gen 3 ultra long tube intake
I wonder if the dry filter filters better. Sometimes the wet filters like the kn don’t filter as well which you’ll see after running a used oil analysis.
Just wondering if you have the graphs from the stock air filter set up as compared to these after market parts.
I have a 2020 Challenger RT and just added an AFE Momentum GT intake and I gained 3 10ths off my 0-60 times.
my intake sits just in front of the front wheels inside the bumper. no water gets inside. When driving the air would hit the intercooler and go towards the filter. so im getting true cold air. short ram intakes will pull in hot air from the motor and headers. so some people gotta do research.
Take the spacer of the aem the tube from the k&n and the filter/heatshield from the air raid and you get the best of all 3 .. Maybe gain another .2 hp
Tbh, I think the AEM curve dip is from the spacer usage.
I think if you fine tune that AEM it will give you power. Coz thats the only intake that has different power curves..like any other part if not tune youll loose power at first but when tuned then youl see the difference.. Thats what i think.
What about the stock setup?
K&N should make a little scoop option somewhere so the filter is to get outside fresh air blowing into the filter enclosure somehow.
Nice! I like Airaid best!
Good work I enjoy these type of vids 👍
I know you guys are about good quality parts, but I would've liked to see a knock off eBay intake in the mix just for shiggles. There will always be people tempted by cheap parts, so I'm always curious as to how they compare. Plus, intakes will be the ultimate argument of car forums until the end of the internal combustion engine, so if it works, there's more fuel for that fire.
Scott Ryman, yo mean you're the cheap-ass who's tempted by cheap china parts..LOL Speak for yourself next time!! lol jk..
Just spell out shitz and giggles. Millennials are so damn lazy.
Dee EM boo
i guarantee the 39.99 chinese kits make comparable power as any of the name brand stuff the chinese stuff uses the same plastic and or aluminum mandrel bent pipes and the same filter materials. now the chinese kits probably dont fit as nice as name brand but they work just fine.
@@whitehistorymonth3563 yeah says the entitled boomer that wants everything to be handed to them because they're old.
Any time you add a mod to an engine, you need to retune the ECU to take advantage of it. Additionally -- dyno tests are done with the hood open and the engine bay well ventilated by that big honking fan in front of the car. On the street, the hood will be closed and airflow will vary with speed and conditions. These intakes are all heat shielded but they are still drawing air from under the hood. Underhood air temps get as high as 170F on a typical summer day, and that's hot. Any HP and TQ gains you might get from these things could well disappear or even go negative in real driving conditions.
I also would have like to have seen a stock run. I'm wondering if runs (including stock) with the hood down would have any effect...even small?
Good enough for me! K&N it is! (It’s the cheapest price)
You guys are missing somewhere around 30-40whp in that tune with the mods that you have done, is this strictly on the SCT canned tuner?
Canned tunes are such a waste of $. A solid protune is worth every penny, significant gains throughout the power band and cleans up timing and fuel trims nicely
Airaid baby For My Denali truck I buy every year new use to work for GM I used K&N 77 series switched and I notice on the top top end of the speedo and with the hood closed on the dyno airaid made 2 more hp all the way through the rev band.
That last one looks good atleast !!!
When will we see the s2000?
Best intake is a pipe out the headlight with velocity stack at the end
That's what all the pro's do because it is best.... NOT! LOL
Thank goodness!, This guy actually uses real products and does a real test to show the differences. Saw a kid earlier try to portray something and he had it all wrong although well intended. Feels good to see people do things the right way.
can u do something with a cam like on a lt1 90s engine cars and do stock and aftermarket test
Why do this and not include stock intake results?
Bigger intake pipe doesnt mean more power, especially w/o tweaking with the tune/MAF/MAP parameters. Take a look at HP Academy's video on the Honda/Acura race team's Pikes Peak Acura TSX vid. They breifly go into detail about why changing pipe size and maf location could have negative results. The science behind it is interesting.
If you go back to our dyno video on the Mustang, you'll see we tuned the 4-inch intake and didn't make any real gains over the stock sized MAF diameter tubing so our thoughts are you need to be making big power (400whp+) to see gains on larger diameter intakes like the Air Raid.
This is why u do testing lmao!!
If u keep beleiving companies..you are stucked beleiving what they say 😂😂
I allways made more power then aem intakes...
AEM is definitely the coolest tough so that is a win for AEM for me.
The JLT is really popular too, ran a BAMA 91 octane race tune and holy shit the power gain was significant. All I ran was a JLT CAI and a BAMA tune. There are other times out there tht r significantly better.
I insulated my stock intake and installed a KN filter all for about 80 dallors. I average 7 to 8 degrees cooler air going in to my engine than my buddies 315 dollar intake. Yes we had it tested in real world scenario, city and highway.
How did you insulate it?
wont the metal heat shield around the intake heat up with the hood closed thus eliminating any "cold" in the cold air intake? it seems like a heavy gauge plastic would be better for something like that
Thanks, Rough Country is $100 cheaper than K&N kit and S&B. So this answers my question
We need the Badass2000 back guys.
actually what these systems do is free up restrictive stock systems which bring down your intake temps due to lower air friction leading into the intake which you will notice on ur dummy temp gauge as my truck runs a notch lower than what it used too. cooler running engine creates longer durability to internals and combined with the proper upgrades will let the air pump to run more efficient which in turn makes it capable of producing larger numbers when real power adders are added
K&N filters makes the air raid filter and AEM. And more mullet mustang videos please.
Driving on the road would show up differences between heat shield effectiveness....The K&N looks best due to formed plastic section. Some good mods there...MNAHGT Cams HHASSEEDX Pistons and a FDESST Manifold.......
Guys! You gotta do a C5 corvette for a project!!!
Might be a stupid question but i wanted to know why u get that high pitch whistle kind of sound when u floor the car with a SRI or a CAI?
Would be cool to try hood closed runs, to see real world hp gains
Excellent point
You have to take em out on the road under atmospheric pressure
You Should test with Stock Also So Everyone could see how much was actually gained! And if its actually worth buying!
Was there an audible difference? mostly between the K&N/Airaid and the AEM?
I can’t find anything better then the stock intakes on my 2015 BMW M5.
What is the best cold air kit for the mustang eco boost eco boost premium 2.3 turbo.
Not a good way to test... close the hood and try, after all that's how you actually drive around. The closed hood will show design and heat sheild differences.
malamri424 turbo vehicles have the intercooler to cool air, you want to lessen restriction with a turbo vehicle. My Speed6 makes 26 more whp over the stock intake system with a 3.5” intake over the stock 2.5”-2.75” intake and pancake pipe.... having a good intercooler is what you need to keep intake air temps down
@@sleeper.simulant7327 , Was there a turbo on the car in this video?
Jeremiah Mckenna no, but freeing up restriction with a aftermarket intake coupled with a tune will always net bigger hp gains on n/a or boosted
@@sleeper.simulant7327 A Tune, just for adding an aftermarket air cleaner? Really? So then what are all of those electronics and sensors under the hood for? Not needed for that. Yes, it can be needed for adding a lot of other modifications to the car, but not really for that.
Do you know that removing a stock intake can actually reduce the hp/torque, due to the air now being rough when it enters the intake manifold? You know, because the factory intake actually smooths out the air and helps the engine perform better.