The History of the Pac-12 Conference: College Sports' West Coast Nerds

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  • čas přidán 19. 07. 2023
  • There's a lot to say about the Pac-12, and not a lot of it is as simple as it seems on the surface.
    It's going to collapse! It's going to survive! It'll beat the Big 12, and be the third best conference! The Big 12 will take schools from it!
    So much has been thrown around recently following the impending exits of USC and UCLA to the Big 10 (seriously, what the heck is even going on anymore) that it's almost hard to remember some of the more interesting historical facets of the westernmost power conference in NCAA sports, one that's been around for over a hundred years. Join me as I trot through a handful of online articles to try and piece together what made the Pacific Coast Conference the Pac 12 conference it is today--and hopefully will be for a long time.
    Yes, I'm a K-State fan writing this. Regionalism is good for college sports, and I'll die on this hill if I have to.
    This video features music, video, and imagery that isn't mine. As always, if any of the information I used is wrong or worded poorly, be sure to let everyone know in the comments!
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Komentáře • 217

  • @aidenlosh9518
    @aidenlosh9518 Před 9 měsíci +80

    It's insane how much has changed in just the month since this video came out. Utah, Arizona, and Arizona state all moved to the Big 12, Oregon and Washington moved to the Big Ten, and in just the last few days Stanford and Cal were added to the ACC, as well as SMU.

  • @ethanrivera2
    @ethanrivera2 Před 10 měsíci +120

    The more I learn about the history of these conferences, the more I realize that instability and bickering has been the rule, not the exception, for most of their history.

    • @bobbytommaselli9733
      @bobbytommaselli9733 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Agreed, I always thought conferences were stable for 30-40 years... but watching these videos has taught me... this is nothing new

  • @Leftlane4passing
    @Leftlane4passing Před 10 měsíci +202

    That SWC conference video going to hit like crack.

  • @lukeontheplains
    @lukeontheplains  Před 10 měsíci +80

    EDIT #2 - now the conference is fully dead, with Washington and Oregon headed to the B1G. This sucks for just about everyone involved that isn't a suit. I'm really sorry to everyone involved, especially the cities of Pullman and Corvallis.
    Come on, Colorado. I JUST made this video. Can't you guys have let it matriculate for just a few weeks? Sigh.
    Anyways-welcome back, Buffaloes. We left the light on for you.

    • @captainspartan04
      @captainspartan04 Před 10 měsíci +1

      Which corner school do you think joins them first?

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Před 10 měsíci +6

      @@captainspartan04 out of the corners, my guess is Arizona, since there's a lot of smoke there, but their AD or president (can't remember which) has said some things recently that make me think they're trying to stay. Utah and ASU have been as close to adamant about staying as you can be, but money talks, and the PAC now has less.
      I know there's a lot of smoke on Oregon or Washington, but I'll maintain the same stance I have since USCLA-I'll believe a move happens when the schools themselves announce it. At the end of the day, I hate that this is all happening.

    • @captainspartan04
      @captainspartan04 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@lukeontheplains I hate it too. Louisville fan, so I had to deal with the fall of the big east. It ruins all the rivalry and there is no regionalism anymore. I do agree Arizona could be next. Just wanted to know your thoughts or if it could be the wildcard you mentioned with UConn

    • @lukeontheplains
      @lukeontheplains  Před 10 měsíci +4

      UConn is an interesting one IMO. Yormark has made it clear he puts a high value on basketball, and UConn certainly is the most attractive option on that front.
      But I also think that there are suddenly 3 or 4 or maybe more options that are realistically obtainable now that weren't 48 hours ago that might also bring more to the table than UConn does.
      We'll see.

    • @nateg4582
      @nateg4582 Před 10 měsíci

      Shocking, and I guess uconn's next to join the big 12.

  • @robertpeacock894
    @robertpeacock894 Před 10 měsíci +56

    Watching this video after the PAC-12 became the PAC-5 is awesome. Thanks for these videos.

  • @nerinamak3298
    @nerinamak3298 Před 10 měsíci +9

    R.I.P. Pac-12

  • @zachdavis7004
    @zachdavis7004 Před 8 měsíci +5

    This aged well. It’s so sad to watch how the PAC fell apart. Greed and pride ruined what was once an amazing conference with regionality and a true identity. Now it feels like we’re slipping into the NFL. I’m not sure if I can watch college football after this season. It’s gonna be too weird

    • @ECG3485
      @ECG3485 Před 7 měsíci

      We're literally in the Twilight Zone of American college sports at this point, where anything can get weird

  • @kevinhill6854
    @kevinhill6854 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Love this. I have been begging for ESPN to do docs for the history of each conference. Ya know before they all disappear. Great work

  • @johnnordstrom9698
    @johnnordstrom9698 Před 10 měsíci +13

    Oh man I’m a KState grad too and have been watching this play out in sadness. Seeing OSU and WSU be in the exact position we were really really close to being in twice is heartbreaking. Nobody actually wants this

  • @andrewsever98
    @andrewsever98 Před 10 měsíci +18

    I love that you decided to make this a series

  • @lahainaboy761
    @lahainaboy761 Před 10 měsíci +12

    A video on the old WAC would be cool too. I think the first real super conference back in the late 90s.

  • @sausagearmseDDie
    @sausagearmseDDie Před 10 měsíci +14

    Quality like this deserves many, many more subscribers. Keep making these vids bro, you're delivering at a level that channels with six figure sub numbers don't get close to.

  • @mick_muffin
    @mick_muffin Před 10 měsíci +7

    incredibly sad. Rich history, historic schools and rivalries. Long live the PAC

  • @iamza.
    @iamza. Před 10 měsíci +3

    RIP Coach Pirate. We all loved you.

  • @docknox3320
    @docknox3320 Před 10 měsíci +12

    Man you have to do this for every conference, love the content, keep it up my guy👍

  • @mcbrownson4860
    @mcbrownson4860 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This video is great! I didn’t even realize you were a new channel and I’ve been waiting for more conference videos since your last one. Keep it up

  • @mistervancleef
    @mistervancleef Před 10 měsíci +2

    These conference history videos are awesome. Great job!

  • @yoo909
    @yoo909 Před 8 měsíci +3

    rip mike leach. ttu goat coach

  • @voiceofreason2674
    @voiceofreason2674 Před 10 měsíci +3

    PAC after dark man so many times I'd get done watching LSU around 10pm and I'd flip over and see some good game between like Arizona State and Oregon state. And I'd be like shoot this is a good game let me crack another beer and watch this and next thing you know I'm nodding off. I don't think I ever made it to the end of a PAC after dark game it's like making it to the end of an old SNL episode that music telling you get yo azz to sleep you got church in the morning

  • @lukajames3554
    @lukajames3554 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I know this was used to describe the Big East, but the PAC12 is truly college sport`s Ozymandias

  • @Ram-2112
    @Ram-2112 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I appreciate all the hard work and research this took to get right. Great job you got a new subscriber!

  • @ohwaitchristian
    @ohwaitchristian Před 10 měsíci +3

    had to subscribe. I know you are mainly covering FBS conferences but i cant wait for you to make a doc on the big east

  • @Skiller71Studios
    @Skiller71Studios Před 10 měsíci +1

    Keep making videos please!!! These are great.

  • @tjbuzard5316
    @tjbuzard5316 Před 10 měsíci +8

    So glad you made another video on a different power 5 conference, these vids are great, cant wait for ACC and SEC

  • @captainspartan04
    @captainspartan04 Před 10 měsíci +5

    And Colorado just left for the big 12

  • @MetalGod999
    @MetalGod999 Před 10 měsíci

    Another excellent video by you, Lucas. Keep up the good work! 👍👍

  • @Montfortracing
    @Montfortracing Před 10 měsíci +5

    UW's 1991 national championship is still considered legitimate. Not sure why it was mentioned it's disputed.

    • @waltjisneychannel74
      @waltjisneychannel74 Před 10 měsíci +3

      They would have crushed the hurricanes too had they played. Most dominant defense in college football history. With the most dominant football player of all time, Steve emtman.

    • @terminatorx6230
      @terminatorx6230 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Steve Emtman would be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame if it wasn’t for astroturf.

  • @terminatorx6230
    @terminatorx6230 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The damage Larry Scott did to the Pac 12 could never be overstated.

  • @bn0113
    @bn0113 Před 10 měsíci +5

    13:37 Oregon was a 2 seed, not 4.

  • @gijakob
    @gijakob Před 10 měsíci +7

    Great video. However I think the Big XII is more likely to survive than the PAC. The Big XII has been through a lot, but has done so without dying. The PAC loses two schools and all of a sudden can’t get a media deal.

  • @oldreliablerc
    @oldreliablerc Před 10 měsíci

    I didn't know most of that, nice summary.
    Also great production value!

  • @Humbucker75
    @Humbucker75 Před 10 měsíci

    Awesome stuff! Love these conference videos

  • @aidanross2179
    @aidanross2179 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Looking like they’re won’t be a PAC 12 anymore bc as of rn there are only 4 teams left

  • @zackhartley4718
    @zackhartley4718 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It’s sucks to see these conferences go away

  • @LeftTurnorBust
    @LeftTurnorBust Před 10 měsíci +2

    Great video man. Can’t wait for the SEC video!

  • @just11n_43
    @just11n_43 Před 10 měsíci

    great video! can't wait to see your take on the ACC

  • @wadecockrill3646
    @wadecockrill3646 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I very much enjoyed this! Thanks for the content. Best of luck to Oregon State and Washington State going forward. I hope you both find your way back into the power five status somehow. My Oklahoma State Cowboys were inches away from your same boat. Go Pokes!

  • @JamesKelleyJr
    @JamesKelleyJr Před 5 měsíci +4

    The 91' UW national championship is NOT disputed. The 84' and the 90' are.

  • @kingsledge
    @kingsledge Před 10 měsíci

    Another great video! Good job covering the, almost, move of the big12 south to the PAC.

  • @Dominco302
    @Dominco302 Před 10 měsíci

    Great videos man, hope you channel blows up in subs and views!

  • @un1verse596
    @un1verse596 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Can we get ACC next?

  • @ianprchlik3956
    @ianprchlik3956 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Lucas you are a master in this craft my friend

  • @Nobody-kg8md
    @Nobody-kg8md Před 10 měsíci +3

    I think if the PAC-12 wants to survive conference realignment in the future, they need to ditch the night cap games. Nobody in the Midwest or the east coast wants to stay up until 2 am to watch a football game.

  • @shawa666
    @shawa666 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Lol at the Canadian National Railways logo in the bunch of possible diffusers at 16:15

  • @jackdaddyslim3895
    @jackdaddyslim3895 Před 10 měsíci +11

    As a Big 12 fan (AKA: Truck Stop league) & TCU Alumni I don't want the PAC 12 to Fail. I want them to Land some type of TV Deal. SEC & B1G are so far ahead of The other 2 & the ACC is $h!+ show all it's own I feel like the PAC screwed up majorly when they didn't Decide to work with The Big 12

  • @DWat01
    @DWat01 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Two great videos. Keep it up

  • @duvaldojo6122
    @duvaldojo6122 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Great video hope you do big ten next

  • @davidstewart9545
    @davidstewart9545 Před 10 měsíci +1

    This series is fire bro

  • @FyrFytr998
    @FyrFytr998 Před 8 měsíci

    Loving all these videos despite the mispronunciations here and there. Pepperdeen? Keep up the good work.

  • @nickflinn9816
    @nickflinn9816 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Regarding the B12-P12 merger, I think one of the reasons of declining was because the PAC wanted the B12 to kick out the 4 new additions and West vrigina before merging. B12 refused to do that and, therefore, no dice. But that may be just a rumor.

    • @troybaxter
      @troybaxter Před 10 měsíci +2

      I mean, that makes sense why the B12 would turn them down. They hold the cards, so why should they be giving up assets? West Coast elitism at its finest.

  • @nateg4582
    @nateg4582 Před 10 měsíci

    Great video, and think you should do the big ten next.

  • @LordsWarrior44
    @LordsWarrior44 Před 10 měsíci +2

    How do you have less than 1000 subscribers. This video is very high quality

  • @tobystastings2723
    @tobystastings2723 Před 9 měsíci

    Good work. Would love follow ups on these quality videos

  • @DDub04
    @DDub04 Před 10 měsíci +6

    As a South Carolina fan I consider myself lucky that our athletic department hitched a ride to the SEC train in the 90s. Long ago enough that we aren’t outcasts like Mizzou and to get situated before this major realignment era.
    As an outsider to the other conferences dealing with losing their premier football powerhouses, I’m not a fan of this treatment of the conference structure. Going the way of the NFL with only two leagues seems stupid. But monetarily, this makes the most sense. I’m glad we already got on the boat decades ago but this is just not fun to watch.

    • @logo115
      @logo115 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Well to be frank, you’re actually in the South East unlike Mizzou. Schools like Clemson probably wouldn’t be outcasts if they joined today

    • @ericthomas917
      @ericthomas917 Před 9 měsíci

      Is South Carolina going to try to block Clemson from joining the SEC?

    • @DDub04
      @DDub04 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ericthomas917 let me go ask our athletic director.

  • @therealfanmaster7097
    @therealfanmaster7097 Před 10 měsíci +63

    Now I am a fan of a big time school who doesn't have to worry about how this will affect me personally (Michigan in case you're wondering), but I feel for you guys out in the Pac-12 and Big XII regions. You guys are being hung by the balls for TV moves that the majority of us fans of the big schools don't want. I can't speak for everyone, but I'm pretty sure most B1G and SEC schools would rather see conferences not get split up and destroyed by greedy TV executives. I personally believed that the system was already too imbalanced and unfair, hopefully we don't see everything get ruined.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp Před 10 měsíci +6

      as an ohio state fan im glad we don’t have to worry about conference realignment but USC and UCLA? that feels wrong

    • @GC-ps9mn
      @GC-ps9mn Před 10 měsíci +4

      As a Michigan fan who just moved to SoCal, I like the addition for purely selfish reasons. I'm still in "B1G country" now and I get to go see UM play out here. However if I stayed in the Midwest I realize I would probably hate all this conference realignment.

    • @ntnsty
      @ntnsty Před 8 měsíci

      It all goes back to Texas and their selfish LHN - One could make a great case how they are the modern conference wrecker.

  • @bb3764
    @bb3764 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Keep these up their great

  • @agent_JorDi
    @agent_JorDi Před 9 měsíci +1

    A follow up to this video today would be gold. The 4 pillar brands are in the B1G and the 4 schools left behind

  • @theroman2130
    @theroman2130 Před 7 měsíci

    This deserves so many more views.

  • @Joshua-uw7wm
    @Joshua-uw7wm Před 10 měsíci

    Awesome I loved your big 12 video and I'm sure this one rocks too

  • @chasmeinecke4322
    @chasmeinecke4322 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Here’s my humble take with all this conference realignment ridiculousness. It’s gotten so out of hand to the point it doesn’t make sense anymore. Because football is the driving force behind this mess, college football needs to become its own semi-pro league and let the other sports reset and rejoin their original conferences. Players now get paid, colleges get their TV money, and can still use their brands and resources. It’s beyond ridiculous to drag other sports into conferences to play teams all over the country that don’t have the same amount of revenue and resources. Give football its own league to divide up however they see fit, and let the other sports continue to compete within their traditional more regional based conferences.

    • @GrizrazRex
      @GrizrazRex Před 8 měsíci

      This is the precise direction that things are heading in. Give it 2 TV contract cycles, and we'll be back to regional conferences. We'll probably have an over-arching football-only governing body with a figurehead who can actually wield power and make decisions. That governing body will count the B1G and SEC schools as members, along with the bigger names from the rest of what was the Power 5. Several have begun to speak of a system of elevation/relegation, which could also be quite interesting. Meanwhile, enjoy the last season of CFB as we know it.

  • @MariaScreamapova
    @MariaScreamapova Před 8 měsíci +2

    You will need to make a part 2 😂

  • @leafman4428
    @leafman4428 Před 10 měsíci +2

    please make a SWC history vid

  • @broncobilly4029
    @broncobilly4029 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Your video was accurate at the time you made it, but things are changing fast. The future of the P12 looks far more uncertain as I type.

  • @trout_tf2
    @trout_tf2 Před 10 měsíci +2

    This man needs subs

  • @LymetimeProductions
    @LymetimeProductions Před 10 měsíci +3

    Can we get a big ten video down the line please? That would be awesome

  • @jaysonmullin6423
    @jaysonmullin6423 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Cant wait for the WAC video

  • @jibbygaming
    @jibbygaming Před 10 měsíci +4

    Andddd Colorado’s gone

  • @christophercasey7388
    @christophercasey7388 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ucla was the southern branch of the University of California. Therefore their fight songs, mascots, even some street names (such as Gayley) were the same. They switched to Bruins and powder blue and gold, instead of Golden Bears and blue and gold, once they were established as their own university, and competing in sports.

  • @nickbooze9766
    @nickbooze9766 Před 9 měsíci

    Damn dude, the timing on this.

  • @dwaynecoy1871
    @dwaynecoy1871 Před 9 měsíci

    "oh the band is out on the field!" - probably the most iconic play in college football history. That play kept John Elway from appearing in a bowl game at the end of his senior season. Elway didn't play in a bowl game during his time at Stanford. He was a great QB, obviously, but back then they didn't have nearly as many bowl games as they do now and his teams were always around the middle of the pack and they never got the invite for a bowl game.

  • @mattbrichacek8978
    @mattbrichacek8978 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I hate that USC and UCLA are joining the Big 10, same with possibly Oregon and Washington. The Big 10 is a midwestern conference and what happens to the Rose Bowl a predominantly Big 10 vs Pac 12 bowl game when there is no Pac 12 to play.

    • @Simbaforlife
      @Simbaforlife Před 10 měsíci

      I mean with the 12 team playoff coming, it's gonna lose its automatic bids lol there's a chance we can see Georgia vs Clemson in the rose bowl

  • @goblue5176
    @goblue5176 Před 4 měsíci

    That is actually crazy that Whittier college was apart of the original schools lol I live down the street from the school pretty small private school that recently even got rid of their football program a few years ago

  • @davidmealy1499
    @davidmealy1499 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Well an additional video on the death of the Pac might be a good idea now that Colorado left a week after this was made.

  • @jaylenbarnes2.079
    @jaylenbarnes2.079 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Solid Videos

  • @northdakotagamer
    @northdakotagamer Před 10 měsíci +2

    I think the chance to play for a national football title every year with the new playoff format should keep Oregon and Washington where they are, but what do I know

  • @srikothur2845
    @srikothur2845 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Please please please strongly consider doing the ACC.

  • @audrisampson
    @audrisampson Před 7 měsíci

    I actually watched PAC 12 after dark most weeks. Made me really like the teams and the conference.

  • @alexanderhamilton2717
    @alexanderhamilton2717 Před 10 měsíci

    great video

  • @johnslyfield5096
    @johnslyfield5096 Před 10 měsíci +2

    It was a nice ride pac 8/10/12. Will the last team to leave turn the lights out

  • @nicangerstein4789
    @nicangerstein4789 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Keep ‘em comin

  • @JoseRamirez-iz6ow
    @JoseRamirez-iz6ow Před 10 měsíci +3

    It's official RIP Pac

  • @luissamayoa8144
    @luissamayoa8144 Před 6 měsíci

    This was beautiful

  • @nelsonhernandez4722
    @nelsonhernandez4722 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Well this has aged well…4 members left

  • @JamesKelleyJr
    @JamesKelleyJr Před 5 měsíci +1

    And I know its rowing but UW was so dominant in the sport the team was sent to the Olympics as the USA team.

  • @terranceramirez4816
    @terranceramirez4816 Před 9 měsíci +1

    18:05 that take aged like fine milk

  • @Malice1111
    @Malice1111 Před 10 měsíci +4

    RIP PAC 12

  • @stanleychiu4576
    @stanleychiu4576 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Pac-12 also tried selling its media rights overseas and traveling to China to play basketball games every year. Scott tried selling the rights to media holders in APAC and China but ultimately couldn't find a buyer. After 5 years of this experiment, the most memorable part was LiAngelo Ball stealing LV shades and belts in Hangzhou, China.

  • @WaltSpence
    @WaltSpence Před 7 měsíci

    Waiting on the ACC video which feels like it could be so complex that it could take months

  • @rustyshackleford8819
    @rustyshackleford8819 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Editor’s note: they did not survive

  • @ecbucky
    @ecbucky Před 10 měsíci +1

    THIS IS WHAT WE’VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!!

  • @JohnTaylor-xg4jn
    @JohnTaylor-xg4jn Před 7 měsíci

    I was today years old when I learned that I was so interested in the history of athletic conferences.

  • @stout8807
    @stout8807 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Let’s call it the Lincoln Riley realignment. It’s ironic that Riley leaves Oklahoma and then USC heads to the B1G and then everyone jumps around.

  • @alarger972
    @alarger972 Před 10 měsíci

    This aged spectacularly. Like a fine milk.

  • @lazarbro
    @lazarbro Před 4 měsíci

    Whats the vaporwave song in the intro?!

  • @ynp1978
    @ynp1978 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Title should be THE PAC 12 IS HISTORY!

  • @antoniokauley9171
    @antoniokauley9171 Před 10 měsíci

    Might need to make a video about what is happening to the pac12

  • @rflores51
    @rflores51 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Redo an update please!!! B12 baby!!!

  • @Sam-ps8zz
    @Sam-ps8zz Před 10 měsíci +1

    As a BYU fan, im honestly glad to see the pac 12 die. Years of being rejected and attack by utah fans for not being p5 developed a hatred to the pac12

  • @RJsModernLife
    @RJsModernLife Před 10 měsíci +1

    Watching this on the day Colorado bolted for the big 12

  • @kevinbergin9971
    @kevinbergin9971 Před 10 měsíci

    11:20 Talk about a seminal moment.