Rusin or Rusyn? And why Carpatho-Rusyn?
Vložit
- čas přidán 23. 06. 2012
- John Righetti, National President of the Carpatho-Rusyn Society, tells why sometimes we see 'Rusin' and other times 'Rusyn' and why we preface it with 'Carpatho' in the United States. www.clevelandpeople.com/groups...
It´s a perfect video with clear and objective explanations to educate the general public on who the Rusyn are. By the way, there are different variations of their language which can be also described as languages or dialects of Rusyn, I prefer to call them languages in their own right, so I call them Rusyn languages, Lemko being one of them, for instance.
Not my site here, My father was born in Kunkowa Poland in 1921. So interesting to visit there and see family members who moved back after WW11 and rebuild.Was told all of my life that we were Russian, then Ukrainian, then some Polish mix of slavic people, for some reason my father never mentioned we were Ruysn. Not sure why maybe because of the cold war years? I was 58 years old, when I finally found my roots in Losie area of Poland and visited for the first time. Very lovely peaceful place, so hard to think of what went down there in 1939, heart breaking really.
Never knew until that visit that I had such a large and interesting family, I married a Hungarian and live in Hungary now, funny how things go full circle in life since I was born and raised in the US. Dad came to the states at age 7 did the whole Ellis Island thing. I do not think in the late 1920's that the US was taking in many people from eastern Europe. Just by chance my grandfather who's parents came from Kunkowa , made him respect his culture. He went over to Poland to find my grandmother from the same village, dad and aunt born in poland. She came over by ship with her 2 children by herself, she was missing a arm from childhood but since her husband was a US citizen by birth, I suppose since they had the fare for passage she had to be excepted by US immigration and not sent back because she was handicapped with kids. Read old translated letters in which my grandfather wrote his aunt saying he had finally paid off his uncle for the fare for my father, aunt and grandmother, very interesting stuff. No free rides back then, everyone paid their dues and worked for everything,proud of them all.
Oh I wished my late husband was alive to hear this video ...we searched to find any infomation on Rusyn many years ago ...as his parent knew very little and his Grandfather had past..actually a family battle over correct spelling of the name had been a big issue as well...his uncles family spelling of the name was quite different (came through Canada then to States ) than his Grandfather whom came through Ellis island in the 1918. Stefanosky
I’m an Orthodox Catechumen in a carpatho-Rusyn church in Florida. My family name is Fousek. I’ve been told that my name was Bohemian, Czech, and everything in between. I’m curious what it really is. More wild is that all of these miles away, generations passed, and I wind up in the carpatho-Rusyn Orthodox Church…that will be wild. If anyone knows anything, I’m open to help
Is the русинский язык the same as карпатька мова?
Markimark, there are actually more than two languages which sprouted from the Rusyn mother tongue, Lemko being one of them. I believe this site will give you a clear and objective picture of the different branches of Rusyn dialects or languages:
Excerpt from this review on a scholar´s work on the Rusyn language:
Message 1: The Rusyn Language
Date: 09-Jul-2010
From: Stephen Robinson
Subject: The Rusyn Language
In www.linguistlist.org/issues/21/21-2865.html
"... Although Rusyn belongs in the East branch of Slavic language development, it has been under intense contact from West Slavic languages. Pugh says that, with the publication of this book, grammars for four Rusyn dialects exist: Lemko, Subcarpathian, Vojvodina, and Prešov (9-10). Slovak is the West Slavic language that has had the most influence on Prešov Rusyn due to its geography (Prešov is located in Slovakia), while Polish has had a significant influence on the Lemko variety. Thus, many features have been borrowed from these languages into the dialects that are used in their respective regions. This and other language change factors have led to variation within Rusyn itself. ..." In www.linguistlist.org/issues/21/21-2865.html
I´m not on Facebook anymore but if you are, you can check this Rusyn activist society page on the following link:
touch.facebook.com/CarpathoRusynSociety/?__tn__=C-R
Term "карпатька (карпатська?) мова" doesn't exist at all
markimark202, Карпатька мова is more of a Ukrainian term, if you want to refer to the Rusyn language, use the first one.
Th word "Ruthenia" is a Latin rendering of the ancient place name "Rus". All were Orthodox until the Poland took over and forced the the latin rite on these people.
That is untrue. Bands of Orthodox priests met with Franciscans in Uzhorod in 1646 and reunited with the Catholic Church creating the Byzantine Catholic Church (aka Greek Catholic church in the old country). There was nothing forced about this. It was not until communists took over and forcibly made Byzantine Catholic churches into "Orthodox" in the 20th century. Fortunately underground Eastern Catholics survived and the Greek/Byzantine Catholics are thriving. The only "forcing" was from the communists (and the Orthodox that willingly helped steal our churches).
@@carlbates7719 you are fake news
@@carlbates7719 When I had my First Communion in a Chicago suburb (c. 1972) our church was "Greek Orthodox Catholic." Today, the same church is "Orthodox of the Russian diocese" (not Orthodox Catholic and not Greek... I do understand where "Greek Orthodox Catholic" came from). Russian diocese means with leadership in Moscow (as you probably know.... and it's not a typographical mistake for the terms which we're discussing: Rus' and Rusyn). However, the same church is likely (nearly) the same as it was when it was founded in Chicago c. 1914 by Slovakian immigrants (likely "Greek Orthodox Catholic" at that time). My point is that religious leaders can play their religious games (sorry... a little sick of human leadership games in every arena) and yet the congregation and teachings are (nearly?) the same on KEY matters of Christ & the Trinity (and more). It's the religious games which have pushed me to be Bible-centric (Christ-centric as the Trinity intended for the purpose of the incarnation & death of Jesus) rather than church-centric (e.g., human-centric, power-centric, trying to read the mind of God for what His purposes are, which will be a mystery until He shares all the Truth with us in His Time)... but the older generations (disappearing , of course) are more likely to remain church-centric (which is understandable). I assume the church did not want to battle the politics of "Orthodox... via Moscow" (per your note) and, therefore, the G.O.C. churches, even in the U.S. (weird! I assume $$ is involved!?) gave up the "Greek Orthodox Catholic" title & affiliation/membership. I'm loving being Bible-centric, although the traditions & heritage of the church are closely tied to our Rusyn heritage, which I applaud.
Righetti isn't exactly Rusin last name O.o
His mother is Rusyn and he was raised in the Orthodox Church. A very knowledgeable gentleman from a great family.
His Catherine was Italian
Bonjour.
Russians are waiting for you. Slavs are together. Moscow Capital Ruthenians.
Yarrski and you are a Nazi who is a nationalist and ?
Pffft, its Slovakia
This guy looks like a jew not a Rusyn lol
It's ONLY 1,100 miles from Carpatho-Rus' (Ukraine, Slovakia, Poland confluence) and Syria (the general northern area for ancient Jewish settlements), which is the same distance as from NY City to Kansas City. Many wars/conquests, migrations, church missions occurred between those areas (Ukraine to Syria) throughout history with marriages & migrations turning into... similarities. The language of the Rus' and the Turks sound similar to ME (likely for the same reasons). czcams.com/video/DhKhQgl1c0A/video.html