Did The Victorians Have These Problems? - Episode 27, Day 45 - London to Hereford
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- It's Tuesday 20th June, and on another hot day in England, we catch up on the Bicester VIllage branch, and then get the one-a-day "Finstock Flyer", take a walk through the countryside to get to Combe station, and then head west to Great Malvern and Hereford, except that things once again did not run smoothly ...
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Geoff and Vicki are visiting ALL 2,563 national railway stations in Britain - view the progress map and loads more information about the project on the website at: allthestations....
ROUTE: London Paddington - Hayes & Harlington - Oxford - Bicester Village - Oxford - (Combe) - Worcester Shrub Hill - Worcester Foregate Street - Malvern Link - Hereford
NOTE: We are using standard class All Line Rover tickets for our journey, but GWR kindly upgraded us to first class for this train -
thank you!
Hey Geoff
I am a 11 years old boy living in the Philippines
Every 5:00 PM
I always watching All The Stations
Why? What is so interesting about Britain's railways for a young Filipino?
Ernesto Sanchez dunno i find wanted to but your coming across a bit rude.
Haha I live in Italy,and my parents are OFW (Overseas Filipino workers) and I'm interested in British trains and I'm wondering why Almost every British train have a Yellow front
@@gabri_maybe Safety. It's (evidently) more visible, however the newest trains have much more powerful headlights, so aren't required to have them. - e.g. the Class 397
I live in India and I am obsessed with All The Stations!
Aww, that was a sweet hug at the beginning!
Yup. Cuter Than I Expected 💘
2 year late comment here it was cute
@@D5300noah GTMC Made The Comment Before Or After The Premiere
They’ve split now :(
@@tapchangerproductions I wonder what went so wrong 😢
"Oh there's Aldi"
Shows Asda
Well spotted, have a biscuit.
That's Worcester's one-way system for you. The coach could not continue westerly down Lowesmoor as that route is restricted so had to turn south, at Aldi, towards St. Martins Gate, passing Asda, before reaching the City Walls Road and turning north again. Given the state of the city's traffic it is often quicker to walk, especially in 'rush hour'. The route does not pass the Cathedral.
Not saying your wrong, but aldi is behind them so Vicki might have been looking the other way to the camera...
I found your videos by chance and I'm hooked. They're brilliant, beautifully presented by you both and wonderfully produced.
I'm originally from Sussex and moved over to Ireland in 2008. Now, possibly 'too much information' here but I watch these regularly, on a Tablet, whilst soaking in a late night bath in County Tipperary: bliss!
As a kid growing up in Hastings - 60's and 70's - I would often go down to St.Leonards Warrior Square station just to 'be' there and enjoy the feel of the railway. It's hard to put into words - my wife is very understanding - but you'll know what I mean of course. Used to wait for the unique Thumper diesel multiple units to enter the tunnels, one at each end of the platform. Specific narrow stock for the narrow tunnels; that's another story.
The rail network is small here and mostly single track. However, there's still a real branch line way of thinking. Our local trip from Birdhill to Limerick for example. Two trains a day and if you're running a little late you can often ring Birdhill, speak to the Station Master come Ticket Collector come Signalman, and he'll (theres just him) hold the train for you as long as it's just a few minutes.
A bit different to my old commute of Horsham to Gatwick :-)
Love these videos, love your Underground ones too.
Thanks for making them!
Now, where's my plastic duck?
lovely to see the pair of you having a hug ... heaven knows you both needed it that day
Why?
I have just spent the last 5 hours looking at your videos on CZcams, all thanks to the BBC. Absolutely brilliant, compulsive viewing Vicki & Geoff..... Now I am able to catch up and watch your vids as them come on line..
Nigel Fowler Sutton I
Half the stations half of them
Always nice to see some familiar places :)
I came back back home to Belgium from Chester via this windy route, via Hereford, Great Malvern, Worcester and Birmingham Moor Street to London Marylebone. There are some great sights to see. Didn't make it to the city centre in Hereford, unfortunately, but I did in Worcester. Great Britain is littered with historic cities...
"Did The Victorians Have These Problems?"
They did. They also had problems like trains falling off bridges and crashing into each other.
Every railroad faces this problem during the hot summer months when temperatures effect the steel rails in hot climates. Frankly the British are lucky not to have really hot weather compared to other areas of the world...
True re safety. However point failurewould be dealt with by the local fitter in almost no time at all, even if it was clamped and flagged
The brakes on Victorian trains were pretty bad!
@@ronclark9724 what if it was thailand..... 33 celcius like EVERY DAY???!!!!!
Best after credits clip yet. Also that is an amazing waiting room!
I thought I'd watch it again a year on! It's still just as enjoyable as the first time!
Superb closing views of Hereford Station and sunset.
And I adore the outtake at the end! Brilliant.
(1:55) "smile, your on CCTV" man, I love England! Best people!!
Love Great Malvern Station and the Malvern Hills. Been there many times from London. A beautiful day's outing.
This episode should have been called "Trains and stuff, woo!",
That was endearing :]
Lovely piece on the BBC News this morning about All The Stations, congrats on the 1/2 way mark!
With only 30 minutes, I would never risk a walk to the village, shopping, and back!
So less than 50% of the stations left... but nearly all of the scenery to come. Lots more to look forward to! Seriously, you two are the most uplifting thing that has happened for literally months. When you reach 100% can you just, like, keep going? I don't mind seeing the same places twice :-)
13:00 Argh AQA. The three letters that terrify students as well as OCR and EPQ
Agreed
Great to see you pass the 50% mark! Still loving the content and the chemistry between you two, especially in this video
RE: "Bicester Village Station" well as far as a few of us locals are concerned it's still called Bicester Town Station as it was for so many years. Bicester is not a village but a Town ! Yes you are right - it's all car park for the shopping centre. We do in fact have a real high street called Sheep Street with shops where you can buy things for a pound.
Watched you on the bbc this morning,so subscribed at once....ex pat living 41 years in Holland,great to see the uk💖super films😀👍best wishes🤘
Congratulations on the first half done! BTW: Loving the post-roll bloopers!
I really love the shots of Great Malvern out of the HST window!
Hi Geoff, I had a look and there are 7 direct trains from Appleford(APF) and Culham (CUM) No joke that is it's 3 letter station code 😊 Love the video's Hi to Vicki as well.
From Jack Eyre,
Year 9 at The Featherstone Academy, Yorkshire
Go to Oxford station at around 17.30 and get on the 17.35 to Didcot Parkway. That train is one I have found which stops at appleford and culham
I can confirm there is also one around 8 in the morning that does both stops
Congratulations on reaching the half way stage guys. Been with you all the way looking forward to seeing the final 50%.
Hi Geoff and Vicky, really enjoying your trip so far! All of my friends find it weird that I am fascinated by trains but have told them to enjoy your series and see the glory of rail transport in the UK! Although I live in St Albans now (of which we have had too much coverage haha), I am looking forward for you to pass through Nailsea & Backwell my real local station. I'll also add that you should give the Weston Super Mare branch line a real bit of coverage! Nothing like being on an HST on single track passing through Weston Milton, a station from my experience is barely used. Good luck! Mike
Just seen the item on the BBC website. Congratulations. Your journey makes us all feel better.
Thanks for the upload! From across the pond; I'm loving the series and I am jealous of England's (edit: Britain's) rail network
TheOrangeAngle Our neighbours in Scotland and Wales might not appreciate being excluded; and I exclude Northern Ireland because their railways are not connected to those in Great Britain.
TheOrangeAngle we have barely any lines and the prices are quite literally a joke
cbak ,
Scotland and Wales *are* in Britain...
I will allow. some trains in America are good like the tide light rail but Amtrak being stuck behind 5mph freight trains is a bit shite let's be honest
The network used to be A LOT bigger before 1966.
A long day on the Longest day, over 50% done. Well done Vicki & Geoff.
There's a lovely little tea room on the Worcester bound platform at Great Malvern, if you're round that way again. It probably does a good bit of trade, as there's a fair number of trains terminating there, you do have to switch platforms though, and back again for a connection to Hereford.
When i see Geoff struggling with the heat i wanna tell him it'll be over soon and the usual temps will arrive soon....Then i realise these are recorded days before they are posted ;) another great vid. i'm addicted.
So sweet. She gave him a little hug right at the start.
Always knew you'd love both Malvern stations - had the awesome-ness of living within the town for 10 1/2 Years until 2009 when Wolverhampton came calling. So glad this getting worldwide attention!
What a great couple just light relief in our hour of need
0814 and 0853, Appleford to Culham. Takes 1 minute only.
Also 1704 & 1733; 3 minutes and 2 minutes respectively.
Those sunglasses are a mood geoff
I forget how far north Britain is, and at the summer solstice it's half ten at night and the sun hasn't fully set. I'm so sorry the points failure made this leg so dreadful. But humour is intact!
Here in Philadelphia, it's always the 3rd day when all the trains get affected by the hottest weather. It's not fun!!
Glad to see you more stoic than after your missed connection at Westbury. I was really worried for you that week. Carry on, like others I will get withdrawal symptoms after the series ends.
Don't know what the trouble with the points would have been but continuous welded rail, although providing a much smoother ride, makes the tracks much more vulnerable to buckling than the old fish plate jointed short sections of rail. The tendency to sideways buckling is combated by heaping the ballast at the ends of the sleepers to provide resistance to sideways movement. If that heaping up is reduced, possibly because of old ballast spreading or work adjacent to the track, the resistance is reduced. This often leads to the imposition of speed limits in hot weather (so a derailment is less serious). At worst, major track buckling can occur and stop trains entirely.
Thanks for the info. Do the rails 'unbuckle' straight again when the whether cools, and the sleepers get dragged back into place by thermal contraction of the rails, or does this have to be sorted out manually when it happens?
And the range of temperatures in the UK is well short of what some parts of the world experience especially in the interior of continents. Do these places not use continuous welded rail or is some different solution used? I would guess high speed lines especially need continuous rails, but how do they avoid buckling in the heat? Just from better piling up of ballast?
@@cephalopod7300 Even if the rails straighten out a bit when it cools, there is no guarantee that this would be adequate. Also, the fact that they buckled means that the ballast needed to be topped up so re-alignment and more ballast is required. These days this is all handled by large machines operating overnight.
As for other countries; you're right in identifying temperature range as the issue, not just high (or low) extremes. I don't have experience of what's done. I have seen rails painted white but I doubt that has much effect.
I have travelled on the suburban railway in Yangon. Rails were all over the place, the trains travel slowly.
@@johnhaines4163 Thanks for the info!
I've travelled that route umpteen times, Ihave never had a complete journey, the drivers get tothe end of the day and just knock off and go home.... I promise you nothing was broken...!!
Bicester Village - signs that say "To the Village" - makes me think of Patrick McGoohan, for some reason........
Be seeing you!
To walk between those two awkward stations takes 65 mins so the best train is likely to be the walking express
17:20 Didcot Parkway to Banbury stops at all 3 stations!
Glad you got to see the waiting rooms at Shrub Hill; they were a little neglected until recently and now look smashing. Those tiles!
They make such an amazing couple. I could just watch this series to see their cute interactions with each other. That clip at the end when Vicky takes Geoff in her hands made me go awwwww. I'm still waiting for my Vicky to arrive in my life but I think she missed her connection. 🙁
Good question. If you guys were to get married - what station waiting room would the ceremony take place? And what station would the party be at? OR WOULD IT BE ON A TRAIN?????
Norbiton Flyer hahaha - love it. A train related joke on a wedding theme.
I have the impression that their wedding will be held on a Pacer. Speaking of, since the new accessibility regulations made non-upgraded Pacers obsolete they might be affordable for Geoff and Vicki to buy when they are slated to be sold for scraps. Although where to store it can be a bit problematic...
Honestly, if you ever want to go from London Paddington to Hereford, there's a direct service. Also, considering I get the Hereford-Birmingham train twice a day, I can confirm: it is always delayed. You get over it.
Congrats, Geoff & Vicki on passing the halfway mark. Also great that you were featured on BBC Breakfast this morning.
My favourite route back home - Reading to Oxford then up to Worcester SH and a local service to Kiddy (and then on to the SVR) Some lovely views - I like seeing the Malverns looming in the distance...
Rail Travel in Worcester is always hell, they've got perpetual signal problems at Forgate, and there's something wrong with those points at Shrub Hill. And of course London Midlands is pretty naff, never enough coaches, especially on the peak time trains from Hereford to New Street, where there usually a good 100 college students from Hereford Sixth Form who have to sit on the floor.
Yay happy 50 percent. Geoff, Vicki it is always a pleasure to watch your updates. You both bring an excitement to travelling by train. This summer we are holidaying in the west county and have decided to go by train. Looking forward to my second journey on a HST 😁 I have purchased one of your "All the stations" green T-shirts looking forward to wearing it on Holiday. Darren
Love the Shrub Hill waiting room!
This is like the walk between the two Yeovil stations. which of course doesn't have a connecting train at weekends...Which makes trips from Bristol to Lyme Regis that bit more challenging.
That giggle at the end was adorable
You are such good youtubers
I have been to the Oxford station! I've never been on a more crowded train than Oxford to London in July 2012. As an American used to having trains to himself off peak(septa) it was quite the culture shock.
Vicki, glad you liked worcester, its a lovely place.
Used to walk past shrub hill all the time, dad worked next to the station, and I walked 5 minutes to where I worked. Missed a lot of stations on this route like moreton on marsh, Evesham etc. Often used to do Worcester moreton, also moreton to Paddington
I am subscribed.
I love the videos.
There is a problem though.
Residing in Surrey (B.C./Canada, NOT Surrey, U.K.) I am awakened by the You Tube bell between 2 & 3 a.m. most nights and HAVE to watch! :)
You were on the Telly!! 😀
Points are a very sensitive part of the railway. The whole system is designed with safety in mind, so even if there's a minor issue with a point, the whole traffic in that area is closed. They would rather have passengers complaining than have a railway accident.
They wouldn't have had points failing in Victorian era because they would've been manually operated.
Ooo a lovely looking Triumph Stag at Hereford station!
Maybe Network Rail should start buying Chinese-made points mechanisms. Those are rated for -40 degrees to +105 degrees Celsius operation, ETCS compatible, and there are options available for up to 400km/h operation.
I would enjoy an All The Stations version for China. The rail network has been developing impressively.
@@cephalopod7300 It’s going to take forever. There are also abundant leapfrogging so to get all stations with passenger service you need to travel up and down a line multiple times.
You guys pack very light!
Free water is really good. Thats good service.
Agreed, if I were an occasional traveller who happened to be on board that day I'd think the free water was a nice touch. If I were a regular commuter on that service and had to bake for a substantial part of the summer it would get frustrating and I'd wonder why my fares hadn't been invested in air conditioning.
only time I've ever been to Hereford is when I passed thru recently on a rail replacement bus so I was too annoyed to look at its beauty
Eeeugh the plague of problems at Worcester in 2017, I was commuting to Birmingham then and there was literally not a day when there was no delay, short form or cancellation, the bad days of London Midland.
At Shrub Hill the signal gantry at the Birmingham end is magnificent and dates back to Victorian times.
Great Malvern station is glorious and has a secret exit.
Hereford again is a magnificent station, the second built in the City and has a little used Platform 4. Also if you stayed at the Travelodge, then that was then site of the other Hereford station.
I think this story made one of the railway magazines a few years ago, a discarded seat reservation ticket found on the ground somewhere - Worcester Foregate Street to Worcester Shrub Hill, yes really !!
Yeah the Victorians did have issues with the thermal expansion back then, generally it would cause a derailment or crash.....
Love your videos there great, they've changed the outside area of Hereford train station with new buildings and a transport hub which is still being done
EYYY!!! LOCAL TO ME!! Well Done on 50% too and this has got to be the best video yet!!
I live in Melbourne Victoria Australia, and it's not uncommon to have 35-40 degree days during summer, but more uncommon are days from 40-45 degrees, and to top all that we did have a 4 day streak in 2009 where temperatures reached 45-47 degrees. Yes, Victorians do get these heat issues and our trains do have problems in this heat also.
I did the greenford branch 6 weeks before this was filmed , it's weird but a fun 12 minute ride and the bay at greenford is so blizzard
The Railway Magazine reported on the opening of the Bicester Chord saying that it was the first brand new route between London and another UK major city since 1899 when the Great Central opened. The following month they actually had an entry in the 'Corrections and Clarifications' section about the article, because apparently they'd incorrectly said that Oxford would be unique in having trains to London departing in both directions, when Edinburgh also does, as do quite a few places in Kent
Geoff doesn't do heat at all by the look of this, anything over 20°C and he starts losing it ;-)
Great Malvern is straight out of Brief Encounter. Best cafe ever!
Woo Acton Main Line!
Yeah, it was my favourite Acton station when I lived there. Only two trains an hour though!
Just waiting to catch your again on BBC breakfast at 07:50. !
4:44 - That shuttle bus is to take people to Bicester North station, which is the more major Bicester station.
Awh this is my homeland. I live in London now but got the train from paddington to Hereford just a few days ago :)
London is a mess, why did you move?
Bicester Village used to be called Bicester Town, a one platform station that marked the end of the line for passenger services that used to be serviced by a two car Turbo with First Great Western. The trip used to take about 25 minutes and only stopped at Islip.
Ahh, I remember when it was NSE Class 121s, before Islip was reopened, and it was a long walk from the station to any non-residential properties. I see from the video that the double-tracking has been restored - how far towards Calvert have they taken the double-tracking?
As far as I'm aware it's still single track between Bicester and Calvert.
In Canada our local GO Trains get delayed due to FROZEN SWITCHES!. Oh, congrats on 50 %
Congratulations on reaching Half Way There Day at Shipton-Under-Wychwood! It's all North from here! :D
It is a gorgeous view, the fact your'e still together after so many stations is amazing, well done.
Now, forget #allthecastles, how about #allthehotels?
I live in Worcester and I’ve never looked in the Victorian waiting room at shrub hill
Have you had the chance to check it out since?
@@cephalopod7300 I have checked it out but sadly I do not live in Worcester anymore
12:10 The Soviet Union could build a set of points that could work in extreme temperatures: parts of Russia can get as cold as -40 degrees C in winter and has hot as +40 degrees C in summer (I'm going by where my wife's from, so other places will have bigger differences), and their points still work.
These things are all a question of budget and normal operating range aren't they? It's certainly possible to build the railways for very hot or very cold temperatures, but if it works most of the time and would add significantly to the cost to cover the extremes in any particular place that is less likely to happen. Although just like the way a lot of the UK grinds to a halt in response to small amounts of snow, it is frustrating when it happens.
5:39. I was in Great Malvern Station. That's where they shot scenes from Survivors 1975-77 BBC series.
Just saw you guys on the 1'oclock news!
Apologies that you were greeted by construction barriers and the sight of Morrisons (terrible supermarket, used to work for them). Anyway, hope you enjoyed your brief stay in Hereford, the true cider city!
It's almost as if they don't want you to leave bicester village
That's amazing that Steve was on the last train in addition to Vicki's train from Oxford! I guess because he was due to go to Hereford in the first place... (he was a really nice guy, wasn't he?!?!) 😃👍
I used to live a few minutes from Great Malvern station and have spent more time than I wish to remember on the station. It is a lovely station though. I now live in Herefordshire and Hereford is my local station, not a patch on Great Malvern though!
Well done on hitting the halfway mark & I also got to see my local station as well - wondered if it would make it on screen.
I was on a train between Paddington and Newton Abbot and when we got to Castle Carry the train had to stop because the tracks were to hot so I know how I feel.
Ah yes replacement bus from Worcester Shrub Hill, On return to Bristol from Stratford upon Avon with a group of 20 odd spaniards in tow. They laid a special bus on for us to Cheltenham Spa where we got a train back to Bristol. (we used a bus to get from Evesham to Stratford as of course the line was closed in the 60's)
I still find it a bit weird boarding at train on the new Chiltern platforms at Oxford in what used to be the place where I parked my car.
Hey Guys, Great Malvern is my local station, sorry you didn't have time to get a look around!
Outstanding work, as always, guys!