So We Got a Call... 2011 Ram Dead on the Road
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2022
- This problem child 2011 Ram with a 5.7 Hemi is broken, again. This time it died on the road. Sometimes it starts, sometimes it doesn't. We quickly track the problem down and get it mostly fixed.
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I think I can Speak for us all and say We appreciate you getting out the Camera and having us along. The Bingo is an Instant Classic,your sense of humor is sharp as ever. As I’ve said before you are Wise beyond your Years Wes, the Flashing Procedure just might help someone it was quite involved. I’ll catch you on the next one. Keep It Safe Out There Sir
Ditto!
Really happy you made this video
Computer control modules arent inherently a bad idea in cars, but holy crap all this VIN locking programming account creation hoop jumping makes we want something with a carburetor.
Yeah, this should all be open software, we should lobby congress. like that'll happen./s
If someone made a new non-computer car, I'll wager it would get close to the same mileage and I'd get in line to buy one (and I never buy new cars)
@@frontagulus Unfortunately it will likely never happen, as there are more and more laws requiring certain types of computer technology on new car sales. Examples: Event Data Recorders, Airbags, Anti-lock brakes, OBD II ports, etc... All of my cars are old for a reason. If someone made a new car featuring the absolute minimum in required computer technology, I might consider that. My brake lights don't need their own computer module on the car's network, thanks.
@@shanesgettinghandy they know what station and shift the assembly line worker installed the part. Take that truck and register it for sale in a non inspection state. Put a 350 in it and call it a day. Lol. 1992 dodges weren't this fickle
@@orbitalair2103open source software won't happen that means the dealerships can't have Monopoly on OEM tools usually you have to wait a few years until a Chinese clone of the OEM tool comes out
Loved it when you said the pup wrecked a whole family lmao 😂
For those that weren't paying attention Wes gave a very good tip of the day when he cleaned the female plugs. Always, I say always blow out the cleaner, never leave the cleaner in the plug, the cleaner will eat the red clips that holds the pins in the plug body. You ask how do I know this, because I made this mistake on the PCM plugs on my wife's Jeep. Great troubleshooting as always, everybody should love a single line.
It's running fine in the beginning and it's a half hour video, this one should be a good one folks.
Zip ties and bias plies would call you a magical wizard for fixing a dodge and getting it to actually run. I just call you a hero Wes. Great troubleshooting as usual my man!
Zip ties would have brought out the excavator for that pile of dodge
Naw peg would have pulled the 12 valve cummins and smashed the shipping crate it came in.
@@paisleyprince5280 this had a hemi not a Cummins, it’s not even a shipping crate just junk 😂
@@tylerhunt891 No, its still a shipping crate... for the scrap its made of.
All new cars and trucks are junk I don't care what brand it is they are all a big headache that are there to cause you misery that is why I like the old cars where you can fix everything on the side of the road and the parts don't cost a arm and leg and hours of time and a expensive scanner tool to see what is wrong with it. If you think this is fun wait till the electric cars start becoming more common and wait till they meet the salt belt. You think cars have issues now just wait for the electric cars to go through a few salty winters LOL!
Interesting insight on 2008-2012 era auto technology. Lead-free solder, a new generation of distributed control modules, and more stringent emissions regs add up to downstream reliability problems. It's way worse than the problems with previous technology introductions, like electronically controlled carburetors, because the electronic control system diagnosis required now is outside the skillset of most mechanics. Full props to Wes for fearlessly diving in to do whatever the job requires.
Now wait for today's trash
Gotta love the EPA... Keep voting for demorats if you like this kind of junk.
Yeah, working on cars, I can confidently say this era is the absolute worst. Only good thing is that they will all soon be destined for the scrapper, while the older machines will still run for decades to come.
@@GlamStacheessnostalgialounge spoken like a true dinosaur
lol you jokers commenting on mechanic videos. Make up your minds, already. Half of you bitch because "no one can fix a car without a computer anymore and people who use them aren't real mechanics"... then the next minute, tech is "outside the skillset of most mechanics".
So which is it?
I really appreciate how you sometimes work from weird or uncomfortable angles all in the name of making sure we can see what you're doing. I'm sure it makes things more time consuming and difficult for a lot of your work. Thanks for all the great videos and sharing your knowledge.
Wow, when I was a baby mechanic, putting myself through college, in the late 60's early 70's, the highest tech tools we had were tach/dwell, timing light and voltage meter. No laptops, subscriptions to data bases, except for a couple or Chilton's manuals and no programming anything. Sun diagnostic machines were just becoming popular in that time period, but the mom and pop shop I worked in, could not afford one of those. They were typically at the dealerships. Thanks Wes.
its pretty intriguing how much knowledge and tooling is required to get real in depth with modern cars. It can be done on a budget though. Diagnostics I have a $1500 bidirectional scan tool, $169 eBay laptop for programming, cardaq used j2534 I bought off eBay for $300, power probe, test light, multi meter, red brick used scope off eBay for $400. Hand tools, battery ratchets/impacts, midrise lift. Library subscription FREE of charge (via internet) for wiring diagrams. I do occasionally have to buy a 2-3 day subscription to Ford or GM for diagnostic info such as pinouts and connector location, theory of operation for like $20.I guarantee I can do about anything the local dealer can do. I drop out power trains, reflash modules, rebuild automatics. Prob $20k in tools in the garage.
@@mph5896 what are poor people sposed to do nowadays. i just learned today all cars gas pedals are no longer connected to the throttle watching him work on this pickup. i am stocking up on early 90's cars and trucks. old IDI diesels, corollas and festivas and stay home and off the roads in the winter. i have the last cd versions of adobe software before subscriptions started
Those days, sadly, are long gone. Today's vehicles won't last anywhere near as long as the old ones that didn't need all of the fancy gadgetry to get you back and forth to where you wanted to go. Today's future JUNK just has far too many buttons, bells and whistles on them. They are no longer cars, they are rolling game rooms made of cheap plastic.
@@richardcline1337 Agree. Even once I was out of college, I did a pretty good job of keeping our 1977 Pontiac station wagon running until 1989 when it finally gave up the ghost. We replaced it with a 1989 Pontiac Bonneville. When I got it home, I opened the hood and said "I'm done".
Welcome, you lived long enough to see the beginnings of the technocratic dystopia younger generations get to slog through
I remember back in the day you dried out the points, cleaned the rotor and cap contacts and you were on your way.
"Those were the days" !!...Archie Bunker
Every 5000 miles
Que the tune, "Those were the days my friend"!
@@jdmccorful" I thought they'd never end" HaHa
@@erik_dk842 I wonder if the Dodge is making it 5000 miles between visits to Wes.
The Chrysler Bingo card was an epic ending.
Bucolic scene with crickets cricking, harvesters passing the front of your shop, corn fields ready for the picking. Heartland pure and simple.
I’ve got a 2020 2500 gasser for work with 42,500 miles. It’s already in the shop for a cam shaft and hydro lifter failure. Great trucks.
It's funny how generations change the meanings of words. I was pretty confused the first time I read your comment. A "gasser" is a drag car from the 50s to me and every car guy I know.
I would never spend my money on a dodge.
@@volvo09 Cool story bro. There are plenty of people that do, so your comment really doesn't matter.
You're no ordinary car technician but a genius who shares knowledge to all willing to learn. I am a subscriber and watch old or new episodes.
Wes is a brave soul, pulled in the parking lot and got second hand electrical issues.
I have done a lot of external relays to fix this issue but it makes total sense in your situation. I like how you break down all the options and explain why you do things the way you do. Great video as always.
You can get a "Tipm bypass" wire that allows you to plug into that fuel pump fuse and jump it to the "rear cigg lighter" relay, which is not used in the trucks anyway. There are several videos about it on here. Only a nine dolhair fix... Although it looks like he was already tapped into that fuse with that extra wire.
like he said he has to warranty the work. hacks a good for diy, but he can't warranty if it goes south
@@alanprather8399 the dealer uses similar "hack"...
@@alanprather8399 It's not really a hack if you get the purpose built wire for it. If you make your own wire out of junk you have laying around -- then yeah, that's more of a hack. He couldn't really do it on this one because the guy had already used up that "rear cigg lighter" fuse that I was talking about. That random wire that he plugs in at the end of the video, after cutting the side of the box--- he plugs into that same fuse/ relay that I was talking about. I'm not sure what that's for -- maybe a plow or something.
@@calholli _" It's not really a hack if you get the purpose built wire for it"_
Is this a Dodge supplied modification?
@@calholli yeah it’s for the plow it shows key on power so the plow won’t operate with the truck off, technically if you don’t care about being able to move the plow with truck off you can just fuse that wire directly to the battery.
Buddy of mine had the exact same issue. I wired in a redundant relay to bypass the PCB relay and just like Wes said, approximately 14 months later other systems began failing on the TIPM. We patched it up yet again and he traded it in 🤫
Same issue with my fuel pump relay on a C class. Those modules are called signal acquisition Module (SAM) on Mercedes.
I had to wire an external relay for it.
I’d like to see you crack open that module, just out of curiosity! Great videos!
I once bought the last Dodge K-car fuel injector in the country. It's a strange feeling knowing that and wondering how anyone else would find one. Many thanks for bringing us along on this job, Wes. IMHO vehicles have become too dependent on computers. It was pleasing to see harvesting taking place after the MSM has been telling us fuel costs were stopping farmers from reaping their crops and that fertilizer was not available.
I’ve repaired/resoldered so many TIPM boards over the years, I almost could’ve opened a business just based on that alone. Edit: $500 for repairing them?! Goddamn, I was hosing myself…I was replacing all the pcb relays and reflowing all the joints for $250. Craaaaap.
Doesn't sound like people will be able to purchase the part now so soon you'll be able to charge whatever you like. 🤷🏻♂️
"If it worked it would have been a good idea." Words to live by. Also, Chrysler Bingo - that's a salable idea. Stellantis should supply one with each new vehicle they sell.
Wes, your videos are priceless; humor, educational, informative, and never the same thing. Keep'm coming.
The owner must really love this truck I would have just parted it out and bought a new one. Always thought the drunk Dodge steering was for the Cummins never knew it was also on the gas engines as well.
I'm glad you made a video about this. I live in a small town in Alaska of a couple thousand people off the road system; which mainly exists to murder salmon. I do electrical on boats and seem to get sucked into vehicles because I worked in automotive before I moved to AK in 2013 and there doesn't seem to be any good auto techs here. I'm definitely stealing the "recession vehicle" phrase because it does seem like I end up working on more electrical issues with 2008-2012 era trucks than anything else automotive. I loled when you said "what did we learn today...nothing" because that perfectly describes just about everything I work on. I usually fix the issue, shake my head, and walk away hoping it doesn't burn down because everything else is so bad. If the boat doesn't burn down I'll probably get a call in the next couple years asking (or subtly accusing) what I did because some unrelated 20 year old thing finally stopped working. Thanks for the humor from a fellow commiserate.
This poor guy is really learning what it's like to be a dodge owner
You reap what you're sold.
No joke!!
Dog* 😂
Ha, I like dodge. But I work on my own stuff. Buy a broken dodge for a nickel and go to town on it. 😂
Love your work and explanation of things Wes. Look forward to your video's weekly.
Worked at a Dodge store in that bankruptcy era and you hit the nail on the head. They were total garbage. Trucks with less than 10,000 miles needing tie rods, couldn’t get parts (remember having 20 half tons on the lot stuck because we couldn’t get wiper motors), poor build quality with more than a few vehicles needing repairs during the PDI process. It was brutal.
I loved the closing shot with the piano music. The true money shot was the open hood with the laptop perched on the radiator. You have the patience of a saint for the IT hoops to jump through. At that point I was thinking about how much more reliable a hoarse and buckboard would be.
Well, about every twenty five years the horse dies …
@@CrimeVid That's probably a better life expectancy than the Dodge. And the horse won't rust.
@@dfross87 That’s the point !
Thoroughly enjoyed watching this.your patience and good nature was a breath of fresh air. Good luck and God Bless.
I feel like if I owned one of these trucks, I would just tap the control wire from the PCM and add my own external fuel pump relay (done right with weather pack connections), easy, cheap, and reliable. I feel like you could probably do that for any of the relays that go bad in those POS TIPM's. Just have a small relay box under the hood. You forgot "Wiped Camshaft" on your bingo card ;)
If that's what you want to do then a second gen RAM is the truck for you half the second gen's I see still running or running on house wiring I think these are two new to do that quite yet You're getting there though
This lucky bastard actually got the mechanic to witness the problem he described in-person.
That's like finding a person in Los Angeles that hasn't been divorced 3 times.
Absolutely love the farming ballet at the end
Awesome work! as usual.
In the next thrilling episode, see the 2011 back in the shop for more intermittent electrical failures. This sweetheart is a content monster!
Thank you for posting this love the content!!!
Don’t you just love such modules. Similar fun and games are to be had with Euro tat. The PSA group (Peugeot, Citroen, etc) have the BCI (Body Control Interface) which can create all manner of joyous faults. I’m quite happy hauling units such as this apart and replacing relays or re-soldering boards. Bring back the good old days of simple motors with minimal electronics.
every manufacturer have their own quirks, and each generation of vehicles develop faults unique to that vehicle. The latest generation of VW have pisspoor plastic quality that causes microswitches to break and short out. BMW still have random cars that develop recurring problems with sensors and injectors. Daimler (or Mercedes rather) have recurring issues with Monday cars that have one fault after the other, and generally not isolated to any specific model. And the list goes on and on. The Japanese are the only ones who seem able to make cars that are persistently either good or bad, theirs are rarely a bunch of bad mixed in with all the good ones
So much computer stuff and not easy fix for a average person. Great video Wes and more and more vehicles are going to need this computer knowledge to fix them. And it won’t be cheap to fix them.
Thanks again Wes!
Love, love, love the content!
Its still good to watch vids you make on things coming in the shop as always, keep up the awesome work
$1800 for a $3 component on the circuit board. The auto manufacturers really have a racket going here.
And the next guy in the area has to go Aftermarket and hope it works out of the box, and for only $100 less.
Great Video,Wes. Always a treat. Thanks for the videos.
Lots of good info and ……lots of smiles! Thanks!
I love the fact that you don't edit out your mistakes. Great diagnostics and honesty. Makes your channel one of the best on CZcams
wouldn't be educational if he left out the mistakes
Wes you have a great dry sense of humor! Love it!
Thanks as always for bringing us along for this one.
Thanks Wes, good job young man!
Damn. Love the custom bends on the wipers arms! LOL.
I rarely comment - but gonna say you are exceptional in your troubleshooting / logic skills. Brilliant !!
Great knowledge and videos. Keep them coming.
A very informative video. Thank you for making it Wes.
Great work again Wes, your videos are getting more entertaining and informative over time. Keep up the great work. Looks like winter is coming with the harvesting of the fields.Take care. Hello from New Zealand.
interesting insight into the 2009-2012 model year issues. i never gave it any thought, but those are great points. thanks for another entertaining and informative video!
Thanks for another great video. Super helpful, keep up the good work!
It's fun watching Wes Work!
Great video. I am glad you filmed it I wasn't aware of the TIPM issues.
This was an awesome video and I'm glad you had the camera rolling 😀 I learn to appreciate what you folks deal with on these vehicles especially with these electronics.
Like always, another great video posted by Wes.
Thank - you, Wes.
Keep up the great mice catching, pup.
All good knowledge and information,thanks,have a good week!!
Excellent diagnostics on figuring out the TIPM failure. In all honesty, I would have hotwired in a new relay to power the fuel pump and saved the big bucks... But, if that's what the customer wanted, go ahead and spend his money!
Really like the intro and exit music on this one. Didn't quite know what to expect when it started. You have a great sense of humor. Guess you need it with the kind of work you do.
Wes, As, always great work.
❤❤❤ love U's! Appreciate the hard work u do,
Wes to the rescue!
Great video as always Wes. I love watching you working and listening to your dialog. In this vid even your intro and outtake soundtrack was super terrific. Really sets you apart form the pack :)
One of the things that set him apart from the pack is NOT having a soundtrack! I hope that was just an intermittent problem. I couldn't even hear the combine properly at the end.😁
Great video. Keep them up! Enjoy them all. 🎉🎉
Excellent job as usual brilliant explanation of the job
Wes you take diagnostics to a whole new level. These new tech controlled monsters are almost designed to fail. I like the way you won't be beat. Makes for great content but it reaffirms my liking for old pre electronic cars. Thanks for taking us along for the ride and best wishes from the UK 🇬🇧
Glad you got the camera out. This may seem mondaine to you but the first time I have seen it. Good stuff. Thanks!
I love the wiring diagnostics you do Wes...
Keep em coming
You are a winner, Wes!
One of the best troubleshooters, great video Wes
Hey Wes, was definitely hoping you could do a tear down of the TIPM. Also I know you said the customer wanted to do it right but was curious if you’ve seen the bypass cable.
This shipping crate has been a content producer for ya bud! Nice job and how you keep cool doing it is the question!.? Love the channel and recommend it to everyone who loves gearheads!
I always learn something valuable from your videos/lessons, Wes!
ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO WES
Great job Wes loved the humour 😂you defo get them mate that’s for sure take care to you all 🔧🔧🔧👍👌
Wes you are a wealth of information and experience. I bought the astro nano sockets you used in the Audi vid. I love old Mopars, but yes the Rams have been awful since my 1998 I bought new. The dealers just bide their time blowing you off after they get your money until the warranty expires. Thankfully ram owners in your locale have you to help them. Well done!
I think this truck loves you, Wes. It keeps breaking down just so it can be back in your sweet tender care! 🤣😂
A man can learn a lot watching you work. Always look forward to your videos.
having an easy diagnosis & repair must be good at times Wes. You deal with a some cruddy vehicles at times.
Always a good Saturday when Wes posts! better than the rest! Any vehicle (clearly) abused will give issues, this is no exception. I think KARMA from the "DODGE" had you spend money on subscription fees not really needed?
Great work there, thanks for sharing your invaluable knowledge 👍
The exspense and toil it currently takes to fix any given problem on any brand/model vehicle is enough to make a grown man cry😒
We had a recall on the fuel pump relay on our 2014 Durango's. the fix was to install an external relay like mentioned in the video. Ordering CBP4P541AB from Dodge gets you the Relay package with instructions on how to install it. It is a hell of a lot cheaper than a TIPM replacement.
Seeing some of the issues with brand new vehicles doesn't bring any confidence that things are improving. I'll keep my F350, 7.3lt diesel, 4x4, 4 Door, Dually with 195k miles on it. Like anything, there is the occasional maintenance and repair to be done, but that is with everything. Thanks for sharing.
I'm saving multiple early 90s cars trucks and equipment. Got a great IDI F350 I'm nursing. We're gonna look like Cuba with their vintage vehicles.. In fact we're turning into Cuba.
still very informative wes and very enjoyable!
You added to my Chrysler list. Thanks for sharing
ive got a 2012 jeep grand cherokee - same kind of issue - there was actually a recall on the fuel pump relay inside the TIPM for that model year. I went with the bypass option - just wired up a really good relay around the TIPM, mounted it to the side of the box there - no issues ever since (5-6 years now).
That's kinda cool they designed it to where you call pull the main fuse for a parasitic draw. Great work with the diagnosis and repairs Wes 🙂👍 *Bingo Board!!* 🤣
Beautiful classical music Wes!
Nice diagnostic work 👌
Wow Dodge! I haven't been a fan since Dad's 1984 Daytona Turbo Z. Would have been fun to see the $10 external relay repair, but gotta give the customer what they want. Good video Wes! 👍😁
Maybe a simple diagnostics job for you Wes, but for us amateurs who are usually doing a job like that for the first and only time it's really hard to find the knowledge you need. Engineers with your diagnostic ability and understanding are rare in the automotive service industry (at least they are here in the UK). Thanks also for the nice intro and outro music!
This video makes me feel so much better about my Silverado multiple cylinder misfire issue! Thanks Wes!!!!
I like this style, serene music and all.
Nice to see those types of issues and what takes to repair/replace components, think I will buy a 1970’s vintage what ever and rebuild to like new condition so I can work on it and not have to be a computer geek and a contortionist to work on these new vehicles or maybe even consider a horse and buggy with a bale of hay thrown in on the deal.🙄😏 Thanks for the ride along sir, lucky you got that truck back to shop.
Good morning Wes. Always great videos and thank you. 60107 says hi.
Well that was fun, as usual! Tks for posting Wes and enjoy your Thanksgiving..
Thanks Wes! You just won't give up and your knowledge of things mechanical and computer madness is impressive.