I worked in the film industry for a year as a PA. Quit because it was slowly killing me. Two of my closest PA friends were sad to see me go, but since they were determined to work in the industry, they continued on to the next job. Their next job was Madame Web. They both quit the industry after it wrapped. To this day when I ask what happened to them that made them quit, they both tell me they don’t want to talk about it.
My friends in the industry were the same way, but they were camera and mic operators. The people on set were just so terrible they didn't wanna deal with them anymore.
Sounds like you’ve got some drama queens for friends. Unless they were somehow violated or had to commit atrocities I don’t see how the hell they are acting as if they served in a war zone. “I don’t wanna talk about it” like they got ptsd from getting coffee.
How I remember Madame Web from the comics, she's old, blind, and only has the psychic powers. No strength, and she's not a Spiderman variant. The "web" part was more a reference to how her fortune-telling powers work.
from how i interpreted from the cartoon and some of what i've read from the comics (so if it's wrong apologies) she almost has a psychic connection with ALL spider-people and is basically the glue that holds the spider-verse together.
Went to see Napoleon last weekend and this played during the trailers. Didnt pick up on as much as Adum did but I was immediately struck by how cheap it looked compared to the other trailers shown and also how extremely hard they were relying on the spiderman branding in order to sell this movie. If it werent for the constant showcasings of the spiderverse stuff i would have thought this was some cheap movie made to pad out a streaming services library. Cant wait for the watchalong
@@moriartyholmes8172yep, at 1st i thought this is a Tv Series. Apparently it's a movie and they're gonna release it in this state, bland, ugly, boring ahh looking film.
It feels more like "Spider-Man fans and Adum". I don't think I saw a lot of people disagreeing with him on The Flash or his trailer reactions to The Marvels.
I love how anti-woke/right-wing grifter CZcamsrs are trying to twist the fact that the reason why this movie is being hated on already is because it’s “woke.” Like, bruh… it’s getting hated on by everyone because it looks straight up bad in a hilarious way on par with the Catwoman and Elektra movies and not because of “wokeness.”
I hope this is a so bad, it’s hilarious type of movie like Catwoman and Elektra. It would be perfect for a potential YMS Commentary/Adum & Pals video! Speaking of which, I hope Adum, Scoot & Gaël do a commentary for Elektra someday!
Madame Webb isn't a bad name when you get the proper geriatric playing her. Madame Web when she's in her 30s is weird. Miss Webb, might be better. But madame webb in the animation since reading is for qweers, was like a mid 60s grandmotherly figure.
If Dakota Johnson was playing the Julia Carpenter version of Madame Web, that would be one thing, but instead, she's supposed to be Cassandra Web, the 60-year-old, blind, paralyzed character.
@@michaelstrong5383 OKAY YEAH, SEE, you're way more into the comic book side of things since I didn't know the different varieties. I know the Cassandra Webb one I guess since she showed up in the 90s cartoon. So I don't know the Julia Carpenter version.
@@michaelstrong5383Cassandra Web sounds like a much better name for this film. Madam Web is supposed to sound like a fortune teller but also sounds a bit old. Cassandra sounds like someone who can see the future, and who could be any age.
@@tdata545 Julia Carpenter is one of the Spider-Women. That's who Sydney Sweeney plays in this movie. In the comics, the original Madame Web gets killed, and all her powers went to Julia, making her the new Madame Web.
I love that Adum was unwittingly edging chat for half an hour because they just wanted to see him react to the meme line ("he was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died") but he kept rewinding every single shot and line before that and then when he finally got to the meme line, he rewatched it once and then moved on.
With Venom, whether you love the movies or not (and I don't), at least he's popular enough to the point where he can have his own stories without Spider-Man in them. Out of all the supporting characters from Spider-Man's world, Madame Web is the very last person I'd expect to have a movie centered around her. Then again, this is the same studio that wanted to make a movie about El Muerto, a villain so obscure that he only appeared in two issues around the mid-2000's.
@@comixproviderftw_02 See, a Black Cat movie would make sense, but nope. Sony's trying to go for the most obscure and bizarre choices imaginable. And, yes, I know production on the El Muerto movie isn't going at this point, but I'm never going to let Sony forget that they actually approved of this idea at one point.
The obscurity of a character really doesn't matter if the movie is good. Iron man wasn't well known at all and that movie started one of the biggest franchises ever. If this movie was good it would make people care about the character even if they'd never heard of them before
A lot of people like when adum is mad, but I find his happy/silly reactions and laugh much more infectious. I mean, the SOUNDS that come outta him are so good
I don't often feel the need to clown on actors but to be fair - Dakota Johnson seems like a total miscast in everything so far. I .. just don't think she's good at all.
had to look it up, and it was worth it lol 32:33 ezekiel 23 20, “ *She lusted for the lechers of Egypt, whose members are like those of donkeys, whose thrusts are like those of stallions* ” 💀
44:03 For some reason, I absolutely lost it when Adum talks about how after the Morbin' Time memes blew up and Sony re-released Morbius into theaters nobody watched it 😂😭
We have that tech, it's called FLOAT BIT RECORDING. You can't PEAK ON FLOAT BIT RECORDING. Most recordings have a ceiling, hence why they invented Float recording. Edit; They're called AUDIO ENGINEERS. Also, Sony makers of FUCKINGAMAZING voice recorders of which I have 6 of them, should be pros at this, then again, they do botch remasters of classics like Beatles. Down sampling them to mono then duplicating the mono track to convert them back to stereo to remove any separation that was originally in the song. Good stuff there. BUT their headphones and recorders are pretty great.
43:48 thank you big titty wolf creature. I appreciate the time you took to point out Adum's braincell deficiency. These things tend to happen during his livestreams.
As someone who operates a camera for a living thank you for pointing out the terrible camera movements that aren't framed right and don't have proper motivation for that movement. That was really bothering me lol they tried to get away with it using the fast cuts 😂
That first "hey" line is awkward because she says it before even turning around fully to see who just walked in. Implying she's psychic or something...
Her delivery was terrible she sounds like a karen about tell a bunch of kids to keep it down or she'll call the cops. Madame Spider is clairvoyant, I believe, but it doesn't justify this shit take
@@MrMFWA Is that one supposed to be Madame Spider? The one at the counter? And even then, all three of them turned around instantly. As if waiting on cue. Almost as if there was someone standing off to the side going: aaand action!
Isn’t the implication that Madame Web comes into the diner, says ‘hey’ and so all the people sitting down look up in reaction? There’s a lot to knitpick about this trailer but this moment seems fine to me.
@@jmonkeysf Oh, so it's HER saying hey? I thought it was one of the kids sitting at the counter. Jeezes it's so terribly put together I couldn't even make that out.,
@@RenegadeVilea bunchbof decisions here are terribly put, like that "Camera Twisting" shot. The other films that have done the same is Hobb vs Shaw fight in Fast 5. Only there it's better and well put. In Fast 5, the twist is done 90⁰ instead of 180⁰ like in the trailer, it's done as a culmination of a minute + fights, the characters were at the center of the shot and they both twist at the same time and direction as the camera twist, and it's done once throughout the film. This film not only botched such simple shot but also narratively makes no sense. This restaurant scene supposedly where the heroes gets killed by the villain right? So why giving them a cool shot instead of something horrifying? 😂
First impression: Character looks trendy, she's got the bright red leather jacket, she's meeting up with her friends and they're all meant to be dressed really fashionably. Everything reads like she's young, maybe college age, with lots of free time and few responsibilities. Immediate backstory: "All my life, I struggled to save people with my active work career as an emergency paramedic... which might be the most emotionally exhausting and time-sensitive career possible......" Not saying you can't be like that irl, but you have to understand that this really does feel like they're just making shit up as they go along, right?
@@zogwort1522 You totally get what I mean, though. These aren't really normal everyday casual clothes you'd expect someone in a serious really important profession to wear off the clock, it feels really mismatched.
My impression is that _every_ department was making it up as they went. The camera moves, wardrobe, acting, all of it seems decided on the spot with no cohesive goal in mind.
@dracocrusher what the absolute fuck are you talking about? I have friends who are EMTs in their late 20s and this in no way is weird clothing. Do you expect "professionals" to wear suits and dresses in their off time???
It's like this movie is trying really hard to copy the first Raimi Spider-Man movie, and it fails at every single detail of what made and makes that film special, 21 years after it came out.
Yeah, it's a bit fanfiction-y really. "I'm super fashionable and attractive all day, and I have all the time in the world for my friends and social activities! But I also have a super important and amaze-balls job that involves saving lives!" Just add in being WAY too young for that kind of career, being the best in her class despite never studying and calling herself ugly so everyone else can clamour about how beautiful she is and we have ourselves some prime fanfic right there.
I'm thinking someone at Sony is obsessed with finding their own Guardians of the Galaxy, combing through obscure characters they have the rights for in hopes of striking gold.
Being related to Francis Ford Coppola was a poor example of nepo-baby, because Nicholas Cage literally changed his name to avoid coat-tails and is genuinely an extremely talented performer.
@@guitaoist also, the bathroom scene in Mandy. He chugs an entire real bottle of vodka. Not that alcohol consumption makes a distinction in and of itself, but it's the commitment to authenticity.
@@amuro90 didnt know he was drunk during leaving las vegas, i thought it was just good at acting, confirms my point even more lol. And yeah theres “authenticity” / “method acting”, but then theres “try something just to say i did it” / “attention seeking”, i mean does he really try to have different hair literally every movie?
Adum was cutting up on this one. His Dakota Johnson impressions had me rolling. Now I want him & the gang to watch 50 Shades. I need more of this. Someone make it happen
To answer Adam's question about microphone peaking, we do now have audio converters that record on a backup channel using lower gain. So when the main channel gets high enough it automatically switches to the backup channel to avoid clipping! I think there's still some distortion, but it still sounds waaaay better than clipping.
@@michaelstrong5383Madame Web is like Blade where the only thing that carries them is adaptations. With Blade it’s the movies, and with Madame Web is the cartoon and Shattered Dimensions.
Sound editing can really make or break a production. It's like bad lettering in a comic book. You're not sure why it's wrong, but your brain knows why.
Yes, the director is clearly copying stylish shots without understanding them. For the 90-degree shot, they need to start right-side-up, then rotate the camera to match the character's tumble through the air. Which they clearly failed.
Like in Fast 5 when Hobbs slams Shaw into the table. The difference with the one in this trailer is that "camera twisting" is better there than in this trailer. It's done 90⁰ instead of 180⁰ like in this trailer, the main objects is in the middle of the frame, the 2 character twisting in the same motion as the camera twist (a synergy between camera work and the acting), and it's a culmination of a few minutes fight scenes (narratively make sense). This . . . . is all over the place it's insane 😂
If they were gonna take a sledgehammer to the comics why couldnt they give the rights to a director who knows how to have fun? You know how funny a big'budget Madame Spider with an actual old actor would be. Slinging around the city in a wheelchair fighting crime.
I don't think she did that in the comic. But i can imagine her teaching the new Spidey protege while she's commanding from the chair, kinda like Bruce Wayne to Terry in Batman:Beyond
14:53 No. In the Sonyverse, Venom has never met Spider-Man. In all the main Spider-Man continuities, Spider-Man is in Venom's origin story. In the Sonyverse, Morbius has never met Spider-Man either.
They were filming the nighttime ambulance shots outside of our hotel in Boston and I saw a stunt driver accidentally hit the drone pilot, knocking him to the ground and almost running over his leg.
The type of editing talked about at the beginning, says to me that they don't care about whats actually happening in the scene. Just the fact that there's movement. There's action happening. What's the action? Doesn't matter, as long as you see the end results of that action. There's movement, and she's on the table. That's all they care about.
As an audio engineer, Adam, I couldn't agree more. The amount of times that I scoff at how bad the audio is in movies and games is insane. The audio clipping is a crazy amateur mistake that is easily fixable. Hire anyone who gives a shit or if that isn't the problem then invest into better sound equipment and your audio engineers.
2:40 it’s not really a microphone issue, it’s a Mixer issue. 32-Bit Float recording can remedy the issue of peaking, but since the industry mainly works with 16/24 bit audio for recording (and software such as Pro-Tools aren’t the best equipped to handle more) some studios may not bother to upgrade their equipment. Although, peaking audio on their part is still bad.
This movie being set in the late '90s means there's not just a genuine possibility that it will feature the World Trade Center, but that the World Trade Center will be a major plot element, and then when people react with outrage, the director and Sony will try to argue, "we were paying tribute to the victims of 9/11!"
Either that, or there will be weird, abrupt, jarring edits whenever an establishing shot pans over the portion of the New York skyline which should include the World Trade Center, or there will be a bunch of continuity errors.
The reason that she didn't follow the motion of the stunt performer getting thrown onto the table, is because she was attempting to do what David fincher does in Fight club which is tilt the camera in such a way to emphasize the gravity so when a character is feeling woozy, he'll tilt the camera in the direction that the floor feels like it's moving for them. It's actually very effective when he does it but far more subtle.
Sony feel like they are REALLY reaching with these (non-)Spider-Man movies. they have like dozens of Spider-Man supporting characters they have access to, and barely any of them can carry a movie without actually involving Spider-Man somehow. (most of them, even with Spider-Man would struggle) They're even not using interesting stories from the comics anymore, who the F*&^ cares about mystical Spider related business man villain or third grade Spider-Women characters. (even the main Spider-Woman character would struggle to attract an audience, and she's not even in this one) this looks like a CW show with a slightly higher than average budget.
on the camera follow: especially if the camera is mimicing the character's disorientation - going from just being in a diner -> to having venomninja throwning them around by the neck - and starting your superhero journey. but all the shot/edits are backwards
A couple thoughts here; 1. This movie feels like it came from a script that was locked away in 2014. Back when Sony thought that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was gonna be big hit and kick off their Sony Spider-Man Cinematic Universe. 2. It’s amazing that Sony’s “Spider-Manless” Spider-Man movies feel like something that would’ve been perfect for 2005. And you know what? I love it. Maybe it’s the MCU Burnout talking but we need more stupid shit like this to break up the monotony. Hell, 2024 is the year of Sony Marvel since we have this movie, Kraven and Venom 3. The MCU only has one movie in 2024 and Deadpool 3. 3. I didn’t even think they were gonna bother giving them suits like that DC Gotham Knights show where they’re bat family characters in name only and they’ll never put in the costumes at all.
I really agree with this. It 100% seems like a script that's sat around somewhere for a while. And yeah, if this was 2005ish, it might be half-decent. Maybe it will be so bad, it's good? As long as it's some kind of entertaining, I might enjoy it haha
You think the fact that this movie, Kragen, and Venom 3 are coming out in 2024 somehow means that Sony is doing a good job with these movies? Wtf kind of logic are you operating on?
Isn't Madame web an elderly blind woman on a life support machine that looks like a web? Wtf is this?# Edit: I think this thing will tank even harder than Morbius.
i'm currently in college at a school pretty well known for having a good film school, and i know for a fact if i turned in an assignment that had THIS MANY rookie production mistakes, i would get my ass handed to me in front of the class 💀 i have deadass seen student films with better audio than this
I don't know if its because they edited together scenes that don't go together for the trailer or what, but not a single line sounds like it flows from the last, like the people aren't even in the same room with each other.
3:32 it was directed by S.J Clarkson and she’s a lady director. According to her film or tv list, she done few episodes of Jessica Jones, The Defenders, and Succession. Probably because she done a Marvel episode compare to her first Sony Marvel feature film.
I like old lady Madame Web, from the 90's cartoon. It's believable that she would have vast amounts of knowledge. They should have just done a Silk movie... but maybe Silk will be in this? But they'll fuck up her origin?
Some guy in the chat, said about tarantula but he has nothing to do with madame web and suit looks different. Instead they made up a whole story about Ezekiel Sims. Also Ezekiel is mainly linked to peter not these spider women.
Holy shit they literally don't care anymore, not any effort put into the projects at all besides some shitty CGI and horribly inflated budgets for every single TV show and movie coming out
@@AndrewMarentes I'm talking about blockbuster/superhero media in general. Everything about them is shit now - shit writing, shit characters, shit dialogue, but hey 200 million dollars budget somehow
"He was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died" sounds straight from a 12yo fanfic, its amazing.
The best part is they asked Dakota about it and she had no idea why people found it hilarious. True talent.
He was with my mother when she was researching spiders in the Amazon right before she died
*Dark Helmet from Spaceballs:* "Everybody got that?"
No
Run on sentences are tight!
My mother was with a spider researching Amazons right before I died.
Can confirm, I was with her mother when she was researching spiders in the Amazon right before she died
I worked in the film industry for a year as a PA. Quit because it was slowly killing me. Two of my closest PA friends were sad to see me go, but since they were determined to work in the industry, they continued on to the next job.
Their next job was Madame Web. They both quit the industry after it wrapped. To this day when I ask what happened to them that made them quit, they both tell me they don’t want to talk about it.
Oof. If that doesn't sound like a cinematic disaster, then I don't know what is.
My friends in the industry were the same way, but they were camera and mic operators. The people on set were just so terrible they didn't wanna deal with them anymore.
@@rudeboyspodcast on Madame Web?
C'mon man spill the damn tea brother
Sounds like you’ve got some drama queens for friends. Unless they were somehow violated or had to commit atrocities I don’t see how the hell they are acting as if they served in a war zone. “I don’t wanna talk about it” like they got ptsd from getting coffee.
How I remember Madame Web from the comics, she's old, blind, and only has the psychic powers. No strength, and she's not a Spiderman variant. The "web" part was more a reference to how her fortune-telling powers work.
just from the name i imagined a shadowy puppeteer typre figure
from how i interpreted from the cartoon and some of what i've read from the comics (so if it's wrong apologies) she almost has a psychic connection with ALL spider-people and is basically the glue that holds the spider-verse together.
And they should have done that instead of this . . .
@@ShatteredGlass916Totally agree. There are plenty of older women in Hollywood that could pull off Madame Web easily, but instead we get this crap.
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You know a movie sucks when Adum spends nearly an HOUR berating the trailer
Went to see Napoleon last weekend and this played during the trailers. Didnt pick up on as much as Adum did but I was immediately struck by how cheap it looked compared to the other trailers shown and also how extremely hard they were relying on the spiderman branding in order to sell this movie. If it werent for the constant showcasings of the spiderverse stuff i would have thought this was some cheap movie made to pad out a streaming services library. Cant wait for the watchalong
No, you know he doesn’t like the trailer.
AKA no need to watch the movie or the video Adum does, just know it's bad and save time on both!
@@moriartyholmes8172yep, at 1st i thought this is a Tv Series. Apparently it's a movie and they're gonna release it in this state, bland, ugly, boring ahh looking film.
The trailer (and movie) does look pretty bad, but Adum does ramble a lot about the same things
One of the rare times where all the comic fans and Adum are on exactly the same page.
That’s a rare but huge accomplishment honestly.
It feels more like "Spider-Man fans and Adum". I don't think I saw a lot of people disagreeing with him on The Flash or his trailer reactions to The Marvels.
I love how anti-woke/right-wing grifter CZcamsrs are trying to twist the fact that the reason why this movie is being hated on already is because it’s “woke.” Like, bruh… it’s getting hated on by everyone because it looks straight up bad in a hilarious way on par with the Catwoman and Elektra movies and not because of “wokeness.”
@@carter_lovejoyyea like i could literally care less about the fact the leads are women, thier just not written well
@@SuperSireBoyYT exactly.
HE WAS IN THE AMAZON WITH MY MOM WHEN SHE WAS RESEARCHING SPIDERS RIGHT BEFORE SHE DIED 🗣️🗣️🗣️
This has the potential to be our generations' Catwoman and I am all here for it
Lol! I think you're right. Ironic since a big part of the marvels marketing specifically involved cats
I thought Morbius is our generation's Catwoman, this more like either Elektra or that 2015 Fantastic 4 😂
I was thinking this would be "Morbius for women" but that works too.
A spider is gonna burp into her mouth and become the Spider Woman
it literally looks the same
The director said, "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick."
The best part about this trailer is that everyone in the comments is just clowning on it.
Makes me have faith in humanity that not everyone thinks this looks great at all.
Just like Morbius Dorpheus Orpheus
I hope this is a so bad, it’s hilarious type of movie like Catwoman and Elektra. It would be perfect for a potential YMS Commentary/Adum & Pals video! Speaking of which, I hope Adum, Scoot & Gaël do a commentary for Elektra someday!
He was in the amazon with my mom researching spiders right before she died
Madame Webb isn't a bad name when you get the proper geriatric playing her. Madame Web when she's in her 30s is weird. Miss Webb, might be better. But madame webb in the animation since reading is for qweers, was like a mid 60s grandmotherly figure.
If Dakota Johnson was playing the Julia Carpenter version of Madame Web, that would be one thing, but instead, she's supposed to be Cassandra Web, the 60-year-old, blind, paralyzed character.
@@michaelstrong5383 OKAY YEAH, SEE, you're way more into the comic book side of things since I didn't know the different varieties. I know the Cassandra Webb one I guess since she showed up in the 90s cartoon. So I don't know the Julia Carpenter version.
@@michaelstrong5383yea but a 30yo is an actual geriatric. Hollywood math 📐
@@michaelstrong5383Cassandra Web sounds like a much better name for this film. Madam Web is supposed to sound like a fortune teller but also sounds a bit old. Cassandra sounds like someone who can see the future, and who could be any age.
@@tdata545 Julia Carpenter is one of the Spider-Women. That's who Sydney Sweeney plays in this movie. In the comics, the original Madame Web gets killed, and all her powers went to Julia, making her the new Madame Web.
I love that Adum was unwittingly edging chat for half an hour because they just wanted to see him react to the meme line ("he was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died") but he kept rewinding every single shot and line before that and then when he finally got to the meme line, he rewatched it once and then moved on.
Thats just his autism
You nailed it with the director because all of these actors are capable of acting. The lead was great in the new Suspiria
Adam is like the opposite xqc
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that's actually so true lol he always has a lot to say
Stops every second to repeat whatever was last said
Or is XQC Adum's Shadow Self..........?
With Venom, whether you love the movies or not (and I don't), at least he's popular enough to the point where he can have his own stories without Spider-Man in them. Out of all the supporting characters from Spider-Man's world, Madame Web is the very last person I'd expect to have a movie centered around her.
Then again, this is the same studio that wanted to make a movie about El Muerto, a villain so obscure that he only appeared in two issues around the mid-2000's.
I would rather settle for that cancelled Black Cat and Silver Sable teamup movie “Black and Silver” than El Mueto.
@@comixproviderftw_02 See, a Black Cat movie would make sense, but nope. Sony's trying to go for the most obscure and bizarre choices imaginable.
And, yes, I know production on the El Muerto movie isn't going at this point, but I'm never going to let Sony forget that they actually approved of this idea at one point.
@@michaelstrong5383 Thankfully El Muerto seems to be on the kibosh for now since Bad Bunny is out.
not only 2 issues, El Muerto appeared in 4 comic panels ever. nothing more
The obscurity of a character really doesn't matter if the movie is good. Iron man wasn't well known at all and that movie started one of the biggest franchises ever. If this movie was good it would make people care about the character even if they'd never heard of them before
Sony is STILL trying to make this universe a thing??
next year there will be one MCU movie
AND 4 SONY SPIODERMAN movies
@@domingosjunior6805 the only superhero movie things that I am waiting and looking forward to are the James Gunn DC stuff
@@Renfield97what about mcu Spiderman collage series
@@shellysmith8694 I don't follow Marvel, so i have no idea what you are talking about.
@@Renfield97 the next set of mcu Spiderman movies are when Peter is in college and suffering. Yknow classic Spiderman stuff
Adam suddenly having a really high quality mic all of a sudden feel weirdly cursed
It's like he made his audio 4k finally
He’s been bitching about studios inability to post in 4K while the entire time my ears have been suffering due to the pitiful quality of his mic.
I give his new mic a 5 out of 10. More a 6 than a 4. Kappa
@@heretoschmooze348It's a good thing he's not making multi-million dollar movies with it, isn't it?
@@sludgemythA good mic does not cost a million dollars.
A lot of people like when adum is mad, but I find his happy/silly reactions and laugh much more infectious. I mean, the SOUNDS that come outta him are so good
I clipped a recent short of him just laughing mirthily and it brings me si much joy
@@magicalnoname tbh I forgot mirthly was a word
Yeah, I'd hit that too.
Dakota Johnson feels like a total miscast for a superhero? She does not have a commanding enough presence for Madam Web
The whole cast in general feels odd as hell
Dakota Johnson was casted because she looks good wearing a blindfold
I don't often feel the need to clown on actors but to be fair - Dakota Johnson seems like a total miscast in everything so far. I .. just don't think she's good at all.
@@nettleciderI agree, but I will give her credit for being good in the Suspiria remake👍
@@rummyG damn, forgot about it.. still, 1:9 or smth, not a very good ratio .D but good point
Only a Nepo baby could “eh…god…ok…” through her career in the way Dakota has and continue booking jobs
It’s great
They looked at Morbius and they thought "Clearly people want more movies made about minor Spiderman characters"
had to look it up, and it was worth it lol 32:33
ezekiel 23 20,
“ *She lusted for the lechers of Egypt, whose members are like those of donkeys, whose thrusts are like those of stallions* ” 💀
i had to reread this like 5 times before realizing i was seeing lepers not lechers
44:03 For some reason, I absolutely lost it when Adum talks about how after the Morbin' Time memes blew up and Sony re-released Morbius into theaters nobody watched it 😂😭
We have that tech, it's called FLOAT BIT RECORDING. You can't PEAK ON FLOAT BIT RECORDING. Most recordings have a ceiling, hence why they invented Float recording.
Edit; They're called AUDIO ENGINEERS. Also, Sony makers of FUCKINGAMAZING voice recorders of which I have 6 of them, should be pros at this, then again, they do botch remasters of classics like Beatles. Down sampling them to mono then duplicating the mono track to convert them back to stereo to remove any separation that was originally in the song. Good stuff there. BUT their headphones and recorders are pretty great.
It’s funny that the bad guy is only seen throwing people around as if that makes him more sinister. Did a child write this?
“When I am King, you will be first against the wall.”
- Adam to studios that don’t upload in 4K.
They should’ve did a movie of when Aunt May temporarily became Madame Webb. That’s would’ve been more fun.
43:48 thank you big titty wolf creature.
I appreciate the time you took to point out Adum's braincell deficiency. These things tend to happen during his livestreams.
She's a fox, actually. But thank you.
As someone who operates a camera for a living thank you for pointing out the terrible camera movements that aren't framed right and don't have proper motivation for that movement. That was really bothering me lol they tried to get away with it using the fast cuts 😂
That first "hey" line is awkward because she says it before even turning around fully to see who just walked in. Implying she's psychic or something...
Her delivery was terrible she sounds like a karen about tell a bunch of kids to keep it down or she'll call the cops. Madame Spider is clairvoyant, I believe, but it doesn't justify this shit take
@@MrMFWA Is that one supposed to be Madame Spider? The one at the counter? And even then, all three of them turned around instantly. As if waiting on cue. Almost as if there was someone standing off to the side going: aaand action!
Isn’t the implication that Madame Web comes into the diner, says ‘hey’ and so all the people sitting down look up in reaction? There’s a lot to knitpick about this trailer but this moment seems fine to me.
@@jmonkeysf Oh, so it's HER saying hey? I thought it was one of the kids sitting at the counter. Jeezes it's so terribly put together I couldn't even make that out.,
@@RenegadeVilea bunchbof decisions here are terribly put, like that "Camera Twisting" shot.
The other films that have done the same is Hobb vs Shaw fight in Fast 5. Only there it's better and well put.
In Fast 5, the twist is done 90⁰ instead of 180⁰ like in the trailer, it's done as a culmination of a minute + fights, the characters were at the center of the shot and they both twist at the same time and direction as the camera twist, and it's done once throughout the film.
This film not only botched such simple shot but also narratively makes no sense. This restaurant scene supposedly where the heroes gets killed by the villain right? So why giving them a cool shot instead of something horrifying? 😂
First impression:
Character looks trendy, she's got the bright red leather jacket, she's meeting up with her friends and they're all meant to be dressed really fashionably. Everything reads like she's young, maybe college age, with lots of free time and few responsibilities.
Immediate backstory:
"All my life, I struggled to save people with my active work career as an emergency paramedic... which might be the most emotionally exhausting and time-sensitive career possible......"
Not saying you can't be like that irl, but you have to understand that this really does feel like they're just making shit up as they go along, right?
@@zogwort1522 You totally get what I mean, though. These aren't really normal everyday casual clothes you'd expect someone in a serious really important profession to wear off the clock, it feels really mismatched.
My impression is that _every_ department was making it up as they went. The camera moves, wardrobe, acting, all of it seems decided on the spot with no cohesive goal in mind.
@dracocrusher what the absolute fuck are you talking about? I have friends who are EMTs in their late 20s and this in no way is weird clothing.
Do you expect "professionals" to wear suits and dresses in their off time???
It's like this movie is trying really hard to copy the first Raimi Spider-Man movie, and it fails at every single detail of what made and makes that film special, 21 years after it came out.
Yeah, it's a bit fanfiction-y really. "I'm super fashionable and attractive all day, and I have all the time in the world for my friends and social activities! But I also have a super important and amaze-balls job that involves saving lives!"
Just add in being WAY too young for that kind of career, being the best in her class despite never studying and calling herself ugly so everyone else can clamour about how beautiful she is and we have ourselves some prime fanfic right there.
I'm thinking someone at Sony is obsessed with finding their own Guardians of the Galaxy, combing through obscure characters they have the rights for in hopes of striking gold.
Being related to Francis Ford Coppola was a poor example of nepo-baby, because Nicholas Cage literally changed his name to avoid coat-tails and is genuinely an extremely talented performer.
I like how you said performer and not actor
@@guitaoist I mean, half the time the man isn't even acting. See "Leaving Las Vegas" as a reference point. Dude was shit-faced the entire shoot.
@@guitaoist also, the bathroom scene in Mandy. He chugs an entire real bottle of vodka. Not that alcohol consumption makes a distinction in and of itself, but it's the commitment to authenticity.
@@amuro90one of my favorite lines of all time "never ever ever tell me to stop drinking"
@@amuro90 didnt know he was drunk during leaving las vegas, i thought it was just good at acting, confirms my point even more lol. And yeah theres “authenticity” / “method acting”, but then theres “try something just to say i did it” / “attention seeking”, i mean does he really try to have different hair literally every movie?
is it a thing with Dakota Johnson where she's incapable of emoting?
or is it just because she keeps being cast in movies with really bad scripts?
So essentially she’s just Kristen Stewart in Twilight…the IRONY!
Nepotism...
Dakota's great in Suspiria and The Lost Daughter but she's really bad at choosing scripts.
When you can't get your kid a Spiderman outfit so you raid Walmart lol
It just looks like rubber from kitchen gloves.
Still better than CGI Spider-Man lol
This is 46 minutes long…
The trailer is a whole 3 minutes long tbf so that makes up for some of it
Of course it is, you need to include 44 minutes for the 4k rant ;)
First 20 minutes are extremely skippable
Based
With this master dialog and delivery you could convince me Neil Breen directed this
Adum was cutting up on this one. His Dakota Johnson impressions had me rolling. Now I want him & the gang to watch 50 Shades. I need more of this. Someone make it happen
Twilight Brothers are needed again.
@@DeadCanuck yes! Assemble! 🦁🐎🦎
“There’s only so many characters in Spider-Man.” Said someone who didn’t grow up with _Spider-Man: the Ultimate Guide_ ©DK on their shelf! He has a staggeringly large rogues’ gallery. And the really shocking thing is how much of that was laid down right at the start; it is truly wild just how many of Spidey’s classic villains were invented literally one after another by Steve Ditko in the first run...
#1: The Chameleon
#2: The Vulture
#3: Doctor Octopus
#4: Sandman
(#5: guest villain Dr. Doom)
#6: The Lizard
(#7: return of Vulture)
#8: Living Brain
#9: Electro
#10: the Enforcers
(#11, #12: return of Doc Ock)
*But Ditko don’t quit!*
#13: Mysterio
#14: GREEN GOBLIN
#15: Kraven the Hunter
This is unprecedented in comic history! 11/15 = Over 2/3 of the first 15 issues are _new, different, original villains,_ most of whom remain mainstays forever after! Utterly insane. Ditko was a maniac behind the pencil.
Stan Lee undoubtedly had a hand in these creations, perhaps pitching the name/idea (“Sandman: he’s a man, made’a sand! Spider-Man can’t grab ‘im!”) for Steve to work into an actual character in a story, and tell it via action (plotting), for Stan to come back through and by scripting it give them all voice and personality. The final picture being a procession, nay, a veritable _army_ of fully formed villains marching relentlessly into Peter Parker’s life to challenge and test Spider-Man in every way imaginable! We are so lucky that Lee & Ditko, two dudes of very different talents and dispositions, worked together as well and as prolifically as they did. Both men were exceedingly efficient at what they did, and endlessly creative in their every endeavor. Spider-Man is a masterpiece, as is my personal favorite Dr. Strange, and let us not forget the many, many sci-fi/mystery/horror/fantasy one-shots they did before the superhero thing took off. I got myself a _Marvel Masters of Suspens_ omnibus collecting such tales for $80 and it’s one of the coolest books I’ve ever owned, even-dare I say it?-cooler than _Spider-Man the Ultimate Guide..._ Incredibly vivid art, stellar storytelling abounds, hilarious twist endings galore, it’s a treasure trove! Get yours today.
To answer Adam's question about microphone peaking, we do now have audio converters that record on a backup channel using lower gain. So when the main channel gets high enough it automatically switches to the backup channel to avoid clipping! I think there's still some distortion, but it still sounds waaaay better than clipping.
That character has an important role in Spider-Man: Shattered Dimensions, one of my absolute favourite games, but did she really need a solo movie?
Sony said “she’s a Spider-Man character, people know who she is, and we can’t use Spider-Man in our spin off movies. So fuck it.”
She also played a role in the 90's cartoon series. Doesn't mean she's important enough to have her own movie.
@@michaelstrong5383Madame Web is like Blade where the only thing that carries them is adaptations. With Blade it’s the movies, and with Madame Web is the cartoon and Shattered Dimensions.
@@IDHLEB Venom is the only one that did because he’s got that much popularity with fans and a good amount of casuals know who he is by proxy
Nope. I don't know who this movie is for. I actually like Madame Web but...a solo movie.
Sound editing can really make or break a production. It's like bad lettering in a comic book.
You're not sure why it's wrong, but your brain knows why.
Yes, the director is clearly copying stylish shots without understanding them. For the 90-degree shot, they need to start right-side-up, then rotate the camera to match the character's tumble through the air. Which they clearly failed.
Like in Fast 5 when Hobbs slams Shaw into the table.
The difference with the one in this trailer is that "camera twisting" is better there than in this trailer. It's done 90⁰ instead of 180⁰ like in this trailer, the main objects is in the middle of the frame, the 2 character twisting in the same motion as the camera twist (a synergy between camera work and the acting), and it's a culmination of a few minutes fight scenes (narratively make sense).
This . . . . is all over the place it's insane 😂
29:41 this is LITERALLY the MJ throwing bread at Andrew scene from No Way Home.
Omfg, this movie is going to suck so much.
47 minute video for a 3 minute trailer. This is gonna be good
If they were gonna take a sledgehammer to the comics why couldnt they give the rights to a director who knows how to have fun? You know how funny a big'budget Madame Spider with an actual old actor would be. Slinging around the city in a wheelchair fighting crime.
I don't think she did that in the comic. But i can imagine her teaching the new Spidey protege while she's commanding from the chair, kinda like Bruce Wayne to Terry in Batman:Beyond
24:06 Doesn't she have a "Paramedic" badge that she can flash at people? "This is a medical-emergency imminently"
14:53 No. In the Sonyverse, Venom has never met Spider-Man. In all the main Spider-Man continuities, Spider-Man is in Venom's origin story.
In the Sonyverse, Morbius has never met Spider-Man either.
They were filming the nighttime ambulance shots outside of our hotel in Boston and I saw a stunt driver accidentally hit the drone pilot, knocking him to the ground and almost running over his leg.
Just to verify, I remember the "In association with Marvel" text in the Venom trailer back when it came out. I remember wincing at it back then lol
The type of editing talked about at the beginning, says to me that they don't care about whats actually happening in the scene. Just the fact that there's movement. There's action happening. What's the action? Doesn't matter, as long as you see the end results of that action. There's movement, and she's on the table. That's all they care about.
Olivia should pop in to roast Adum more often lmao
I was so damn excited for Madame Web. It could have been great, and then I saw the trailer and all excitement was just sucked out of me.
You were excited?! why?
A D-grade supporting character from the comics that barely anyone knows about can carry a movie now?!
This is from the same franchise that made Morbius. My expectations for this movie are non-existent.
I don't understand why you would be excited for that like what were you looking forward too
@@KainGerc This person is being sarcastic. They have to be.
Was Morbius and the 2 Venom movies not enough evidence?
It's literally edgelord That's So Raven
39:39 they even did the zoom in on the eye thing 💀
More like Madame Narf.
2:15 Look closely, they were turning around before she even started to say "Hey". 💀
This is what I love. Adam can take a 2 minute trailer and turn it into nearly an hour of film analysis and performance art.
As an audio engineer, Adam, I couldn't agree more. The amount of times that I scoff at how bad the audio is in movies and games is insane. The audio clipping is a crazy amateur mistake that is easily fixable. Hire anyone who gives a shit or if that isn't the problem then invest into better sound equipment and your audio engineers.
I’m so glad their giving that so Raven her own Marvel Cinematic feature
Lol
2:40 it’s not really a microphone issue, it’s a Mixer issue. 32-Bit Float recording can remedy the issue of peaking, but since the industry mainly works with 16/24 bit audio for recording (and software such as Pro-Tools aren’t the best equipped to handle more) some studios may not bother to upgrade their equipment. Although, peaking audio on their part is still bad.
Movies like these are important because they show how important good direction is.
That screenshot of Sydney Sweeney at 29:35... it looks like she just read the scripts for Euphoria Season 3 LOL
Morbius for women😂
50 Shades of Madame
3:03 "Because most people can't hear it" Yeah, I think you're on to something with that answer.
39:29 “hasan piker as Karl Marx” made me fucking scream idk why that was so funny to me
This movie being set in the late '90s means there's not just a genuine possibility that it will feature the World Trade Center, but that the World Trade Center will be a major plot element, and then when people react with outrage, the director and Sony will try to argue, "we were paying tribute to the victims of 9/11!"
Either that, or there will be weird, abrupt, jarring edits whenever an establishing shot pans over the portion of the New York skyline which should include the World Trade Center, or there will be a bunch of continuity errors.
So this director has come from TV; were none of those a TV drama so she could actually get some emotion in the voice lines from her actors?
this actress is as interesting as that bar on the bathroom wall that holds your towels.
The reason that she didn't follow the motion of the stunt performer getting thrown onto the table, is because she was attempting to do what David fincher does in Fight club which is tilt the camera in such a way to emphasize the gravity so when a character is feeling woozy, he'll tilt the camera in the direction that the floor feels like it's moving for them. It's actually very effective when he does it but far more subtle.
Sony feel like they are REALLY reaching with these (non-)Spider-Man movies.
they have like dozens of Spider-Man supporting characters they have access to, and barely any of them can carry a movie without actually involving Spider-Man somehow. (most of them, even with Spider-Man would struggle)
They're even not using interesting stories from the comics anymore,
who the F*&^ cares about mystical Spider related business man villain or third grade Spider-Women characters. (even the main Spider-Woman character would struggle to attract an audience, and she's not even in this one)
this looks like a CW show with a slightly higher than average budget.
on the camera follow: especially if the camera is mimicing the character's disorientation - going from just being in a diner -> to having venomninja throwning them around by the neck - and starting your superhero journey. but all the shot/edits are backwards
A couple thoughts here;
1. This movie feels like it came from a script that was locked away in 2014. Back when Sony thought that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 was gonna be big hit and kick off their Sony Spider-Man Cinematic Universe.
2. It’s amazing that Sony’s “Spider-Manless” Spider-Man movies feel like something that would’ve been perfect for 2005. And you know what? I love it. Maybe it’s the MCU Burnout talking but we need more stupid shit like this to break up the monotony. Hell, 2024 is the year of Sony Marvel since we have this movie, Kraven and Venom 3. The MCU only has one movie in 2024 and Deadpool 3.
3. I didn’t even think they were gonna bother giving them suits like that DC Gotham Knights show where they’re bat family characters in name only and they’ll never put in the costumes at all.
I really agree with this. It 100% seems like a script that's sat around somewhere for a while.
And yeah, if this was 2005ish, it might be half-decent.
Maybe it will be so bad, it's good? As long as it's some kind of entertaining, I might enjoy it haha
@@RedSpade37I’m hoping it’s at least funny bad. Not boring bad like Morbius, the only reason it was even relevant was because the memes it spawned.
You think the fact that this movie, Kragen, and Venom 3 are coming out in 2024 somehow means that Sony is doing a good job with these movies? Wtf kind of logic are you operating on?
@@matthewlee4834 I said “we need more stupid shit like this to break up the monotony” I never said they were meant to be good.
The camera operator: "I'll try spinning! That's a good trick!"
He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died.
43:49 thank for clarifying my joke hahaha
Woahhhh it’s you
Isn't Madame web an elderly blind woman on a life support machine that looks like a web? Wtf is this?#
Edit: I think this thing will tank even harder than Morbius.
Yep, and she is also "gifted" with psychic powers.
This trailer has the most iconic line of all time
He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died.
I've never heard an EMT sound so meh about helping someone.
Love how morbios is advertised on this as well lol
He morbed all over everything.
43:47 lmao get him Olivia
"Why they no 4k when do before"
The Trailer: 🎶 What do you want from me🎶
We need an Adum and Pals 50 Shades of Grey, STAT!
Don't forget to skip the first minute or so to dodge the obligatory 4k rant
i'm currently in college at a school pretty well known for having a good film school, and i know for a fact if i turned in an assignment that had THIS MANY rookie production mistakes, i would get my ass handed to me in front of the class 💀 i have deadass seen student films with better audio than this
I don't know if its because they edited together scenes that don't go together for the trailer or what, but not a single line sounds like it flows from the last, like the people aren't even in the same room with each other.
3:32 it was directed by S.J Clarkson and she’s a lady director. According to her film or tv list, she done few episodes of Jessica Jones, The Defenders, and Succession.
Probably because she done a Marvel episode compare to her first Sony Marvel feature film.
Soon they would want to drive 😂
"he was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died"
wwwwwwwhat
this setup and light are new to me its really nice, adum lookin good ^^
It's only a trailer and the video is almost an hour long. It's going to be funny.
Can you put in time stamps so we can skip the 4K rant at the start of these videos?
"In association with MARVEL" is my favorite logo of all time
My favorite part of the movie was when Ezekiel looked into the camera and yelled “I will have the Madame’s web!”
I like old lady Madame Web, from the 90's cartoon.
It's believable that she would have vast amounts of knowledge.
They should have just done a Silk movie... but maybe Silk will be in this? But they'll fuck up her origin?
Silk isnt well known outside of comics despite her popularity, so I doubt they saw her as profitable.
dakota johnson cant act
Some guy in the chat, said about tarantula but he has nothing to do with madame web and suit looks different. Instead they made up a whole story about Ezekiel Sims. Also Ezekiel is mainly linked to peter not these spider women.
Ezekiel, in this movie, acts more like Morlun in the comics, but I guess Sony doesn't want to confuse the audience with Morbius.
My introduction to this trailer was the pan and scan portrait version. You should try watching that if you think this is poorly edited.
It sounds like an episode of keeping up with the Kardashians but with action sound effects added.
2 fucking hilarious lines in this trailer "He's trying to change what happens!" and "Your future was almost SO different". holy shit
Holy shit they literally don't care anymore, not any effort put into the projects at all besides some shitty CGI and horribly inflated budgets for every single TV show and movie coming out
Is Sony making tv shows too?
@@AndrewMarentes I'm talking about blockbuster/superhero media in general. Everything about them is shit now - shit writing, shit characters, shit dialogue, but hey 200 million dollars budget somehow
Ok
Finally a superhero movie for me! Someone who’s purchased underwear before