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Tikka vs Howa Which is Better and Why!?
In this review we will take a look at the Tikka T3x Superlight, Howa Kuiu and the Howa H-S Precision rifle. I give my experience having used both and what I think. Is the Tikka better? Is the Howa better? You will have to watch all the way to the end to find out!
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Can you tell me more about paint job on your Tikka? Looks great...
If you have ideas for videos let me know. I have a very small budget but I can try. Hope you enjoy.
It would be a field test...but I'd like to see some range testing of the Howa chassis vs a regular stocked Howa in the same caliber
@@kirkmartin2223 that is a good idea
I have a howa HCR and a Tikka t3x and the Tikka takes the cake for me. Offered in left handed configuration, way smoother action and a better factory trigger.
Smooth for sure
But what if you made the simple work of smoothing out the action and adjusting the factory trigger down on the Howa? Then which one is better? I think Howa is definitely the overall better rifle.
Very interesting that you say Howa is cheaper. Much prefer Tikka trigger, Tikka’s bolt and smooth action, Tikka’s overall weight, Tikka’s accuracy, and that they realize that some people shoot left handed!
I like tikka. I just prefer certain things on the Howa or think certain things are built better. I have had great accuracy with my Howas. I would like Howa to smooth their actions out a little but other than that I have no complaints. I do feel Howa offers more models at different price points than Tikka and at least in my experience I have been able to get them cheaper most of the time. For example my tikka t3x superlight cost 750 my howa hs precision cost 620 the stock on my howa is wayyyy better than the stock that came on my t3x.
Bullets4Bucks I’ll agree with you on the stock if your talking synthetic stocks but the wood stocks on the Tikka Hunter is excellent. In fact after glass bedding we saw little or no improvement in the already superb accuracy, made us wonder why we even did it.
As someone who owns both of these rifles in .308, with near identical setups, I'd have to say the tikka takes it for me by far, Howa definitely has good value, but long-range precision my tikka out performs Howa by a fair margin past about 400 yards
Interesting glad you like tikka
Which model howa do you have?
@@Bullets4Bucks 1500 with the black on black APC chassis
Magpul bipod and Vortex Venom scope on both
if it doesn't outperform the Howa under 400 yards, then how does it outperform past 400 yards with the same chambering? What happens to the bullet out of the Howa after it passes the 400 yard mark?
Had two heavy barreled Howas but now have three Tikkas.
Both are great but I like Tikka for now.
Nice
Bet you’re glad you got the Tikas.
I was wanting to get my dad a new 'modern' rifle a upgrade from his heavy trusty .270. We wound up with the Tikka t3 and he loved it, put a Nikon scope on it and now the Nikon scope is a piece of art on this rifle. Have to say Dad hit targets faster, carried his rifle on the trips into the wilderness more often and loved the upgraded 7mm rem magnum payload. Dad's rifle convinced me to drop my 300 win/mag for a 7mm version for sure. Finding good mid priced glass is now a breeze with online thank goodness.
Have both. The Tikka is my big game gun and the Howa is my coyote gun. Been happy with both. This is one of those you can't go wrong comparisons.
Bought my first Howa a few years back, I have been very happy with it and my next purchase will be another Howa.
Awesome
I just got the tx3 stainless. With factory ammo I can shoot 300 yards and only off dead center by 3/4 inch.I can shoot half inch groups at 100 with many hole in hole shots.Mine is the 270 and I have dropped 3 deer in two trips out in the woods so far.$800 bucks is still way cheaper than quite a few on the market.I only have two hundred in the scope.
This is my first hi powered rifle so I'm very happy with the tikka and how it shoots but carrying it is a dream.
Good shooting
Did you thread the barrel? I really want to get a stainless myself but not having a threaded barrel for a 7 rem mag is irritating.
@@lessforloans No, the 270 is a cream puff to shoot.
I'm use to a 12 gauge so the recoil on the 270 is hardly noticeable.
I have two Howa 1500s. They are incredibly accurate. One bolt is butter smooth and slides like the Tikka. The other is more like the one from his video. Both are tack drivers.
I do like the stocks in the Howas a lot. They are excellent for gripping and not hollow. I love shooting these guns and they aren’t bank breakers.
I love my Howas
I got only one howa in 270 but the bolt is stupid slick and smooth no issues at all only grip is the hogue stock is meh but I will definitely be getting another
I think I’ll be binge watching your vs rifle series lots of information that not many other reviews have. Great videos.
Thanks 😊
Have you decided which gun you will you buy based on his "vs rifle" series? If so, which one did you choose?
Tikka is my choice. Reasoning? I have 3 tikka's and they all shoot amazing (1 is uncanny how precise it is with factory ammo.) BUT, I'm really intrigued by Howa cause of all the good things I've heard but I like to stick with what works for me.
Understandable reasoning :)
I'm late the party here but I have owned 2 Howas and 5 Tikkas. I sold 1 of the Howas and 3 of the Tikkas (of which 1 I regret), and overall... each has their own reason to shine. I do believe the Howa trigger is marginally better than the Tikka and it's less finnicky with ammo choices than my Tikkas have been. Whenever I hunt with one, I never wish I had the other. Once they're dialed up and dialed in, they're super dependable in both function and accuracy.
I do have a factory Tikka that measures 2.1lbs on the trigger pull and that actually matches the Howa I still have. To go lower, I have rifles that do, but I really don't notice that half pound of difference when focusing on a target. I have a Remington 700 (older) that measures 5lbs 3oz. on the trigger and for some reason, it doesn't affect my ability to shoot every bit as accurate as the lighter triggers. I can't explain it, but it is what it is.
Overall, just know that there is an avenue to complete satisfaction no matter which one you choose. You can literally flip a coin and be fine. However, if you're like me, the only way to know for sure is to have one of each. I can almost guarantee that you too will find your way to absolutely loving them both.
Happy hunting and happy shooting to all my brothers and sisters in arms!
After hearing so many touting them, I was considering buying a Tikka until I saw they have a plastic trigger guard and magazine. Now I can appreciate my Howa-made Weatherby Vanguard with a Walnut stock that much more. A true tack driver that's practically identical to the 1500.
Good choice
Only thing wrong with a Howa is they lack the snobbery factor associated with very expensive hardware. Weatherby thinks enough of Howa to have them as the production facility for the Weatherby Vanguard barreled actions. Some like to snicker about things made in Japan but most of the better cars in the world are made there, simply because of their superior machining practices and great attention to quality control. It's not about what you pay for something, it's about how well they work and how well you can use them.
Agreed. At one time even the weatherby mark v was made by howa
You are absolutely correct about the cars! I am retired from the car business after 45 years and the same goes for the rifles because I have owned 4/5 of each of these guns and they both are great guns for the price range! Thanks for sharing the videos to help all those trying to decide on a new gun in this price range!
I have a 6.5 Creedmoor Howa 1500. I give it a good review I’ve caught many animals with it. I am using American Hunter Hornady 140 grain and it does the job
I love my 6.5 1500
The Tikka is just that little bit better in accuracy and quailty if you ask me.
Both are great 👍
I agree
I would have agreed until my best shooting most dependable rifle became a Howa!!!
Quality, yes, but I'm not so sure how much better the Tikka can perform in accuracy. My barreled action from Brownell that I threw into the KRG Bravo shot sub MOA with Hornady factory loads and 1/2 MOA with handloads. I'm looking to buy a Tikka CTR or Super Varmint to see if it can do just as good or better.
not sure why someone would say Tikka is better quality when it has a cheap, woodpeckery plastic stock and plastic trigger guard. Feels like a cheap Gamo pellet air gun
I was in the same decisive situation between these two. I know I wanted either in a KRG Bravo chassis. I almost bought the T3X CTR but ended up buying a Howa 1500 20" 308 barreled action from Brownell instead. I'm so glad I did. With the HOWA, I was able to bring the trigger down to 1lb just by snipping the sear spring. And I prefer double stage over single. Dont get me wrong, the Tikka is phenomenal but I don't think it was worth several hundred dollars more. I would've went with the Tikka T3X Lite just to replace the barrel with something thicker down the road in 22 or 24 inch in 308. I wasnt trying to pay a premium for something that I would replace down the road. I would say that this comparison was similar to Glock 19 vs Beretta 92 in every way, especially in terms of action smoothness, functionality, and appearances.
Thanks for the comment
A Yodave Tikka T3, T3X and T1X trigger spring will give you a much lower trigger pull and only 10 dollars plus shipping.
Still like my Howa better than my Tikka.
Having had both. Both were very accurate. Sadly I got fed up dealing with a right hand action, while shooting wrong handed. Tikka makes a lefty option. Howa/Vanguard does not. Tikka for me.
Understood
I have 2 Howa built from the barreled actions through Brownell. Absolutely love them both. I have the mini action hvy brl in 6.5 grendel and the 1500 standard barrel in 7mm REM mag. Both are installed on the bell & Carlson stocks with the full length aluminum bedding block. This set up is rock solid with the howa integral recoil lug
They are fantastic
I did the sane build years ago
I also have the Howa but I put it in an HS Precision stock. The Bell & Carlson is similar to the HS in that it also incorporates the bedding block. Weights are similar , price is lower on the Bell but here’s the difference for me. The HS has no cheekpiece whereas the Bell does. So why do I care?
Since I started shooting with stocks with adjustable cheek risers I’ve come to realize how important cheek weld is. With the HS I can attach fitted plastic risers of varying heights because the cheekpiece hump isn’t there. I also have a Bradley adjustable cheek riser that works great on the HS but doesn’t fit on the Bell for the same reason.
I see the cheek riser on your guns but they are both bulkier and much heavier than the Bradley
Great review. The only things I look at in a gun are weight, quality, cost and can I get good consistent sub min. shot groups. You covered all the bases and then some to make a great review.
Thank you
Tikka. Always Tikka.
Smoother, better trigger. Trued out of the factory. Many upgrades available (if you want it cause you sure do't need it)
Better accuracy. Better feel. Howa has NO after sales support. They dropped me in the shiz so I got rid every one I had. Spent a load of noney on them, never could spent them into Tikka class
I disagree but to each their own
What do you disagree with?
Only facts stated.
@@henryknoetze9579 my howas have shot as good or in some cases better than my tikkas. The reciever is built and designed better. I think the triggers are equally good.
Respectfully disagree. I had to put aftermatket triggers in. Aftermarket stocks since the hogue sucks. My most expensive rifle for a long time was a Howa. Couldnt get it to shoot. Contacted Howa. They basically told me that it wasnt their fault I bought a Howa... so I got rid of all of them.
My Tikkas on the other hand I have a hard time picking the best groups with. Factore triggers break at 1.5 lbs. Totally safe. These two cant be mentioned in the same sentence. Seen plenty Creedmoors with barrels toast at 700 rounds. Quality isnt what it should be.
Howa inherently better/stronger action design
Tikka action smooth as glass
Both great factory triggers
Both great aftermarket support
Both sub MOA.
I shoot Howa. 6.5CM and 6.5 Grendel.
Both sub moa all day
Agreed
Im curious, is their actually a test, where they take the two actions up to the highest PSI until they fail? How would one know, which is stronger?
@@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill because it's forged from one piece of steel instead of multiple parts
That’s it. Tikka for me. They do the safety and the trigger the right way.🤠
I own and shoot both on a regular basis. Tikka superlight in 308 and 300wm and Howard 1500 in 308 and 300wm and prefer the tikka's any day of the week
If you like it thats what matters as long as it works for you
For the money, the Howa is hard to beat. Several earlier comments mention something you skipped in the video... In addition to all the options Howa already offers, you also can buy as a barreled action and use with the stock of your choice. I don't recall seeing Tikka available as barreled actions, but haven't looked lately.
I have the 1500 in 308 with the magazine conversion, which was easy to install. Mine has a Timney trigger because it was made before the HACT was being offered. If I bought today I would probably stick with the HACT, but haven't really compared it to the Timney. So who knows!
I have both.
I got the tikka new with a aftermarket grs stock straight from the dealer.
I think that the tikka has the quality edge. But it is such a small difference.
The howa had a better barrel twist 1-12 for my 22-250 and in a short action.
1-14 with Tikka.
I recommend Howa to anyone, the triggers on my howa rifles are all very good.
Currently waiting on the Howa heavy barreled action in 308 to come back in stock then im putting it in a oryx chassis. Will be my very first entry level long range set up. I was first going to do a savage 110 tactical, but further research changed my mind and turned me onto the howa.
Very nice
@@Bullets4Bucks I don’t like the recoil log design of the Howa it seems cheap…
@@trentroberdeau1462 how so?
@@trentroberdeau1462 it's actually superior to all the rem 700 clones
The Tikka T3x is a sweet rifle so to is the Bergara B14 HMR, but I'm thinking of making my own ar style Howa 1500 short action rifle chambered in .308.
Tikka, Bergara, and Howa/Weatherby are all good to go.
I bought the Howa 1500 7mm-08. Both Tika and Howa shoot great but I’m about saving money for the Howa than spending a few hundred bucks more for the Tika. Why spend more money when I can get the same thing from Howa? Scope plus break-in ammo add the next amount to the price. Better Value from Howa and when dropping an animal it doesn’t ask which one made it lay down. Spend more if you want but my action is smooth enough to cycle a follow up shot if needed. Plus I like the Howa Bolt better with its quick release to service the firing pin with just one quick twist. Pillar bedding on the Howa is integrated or the Aluminum Bed Block is like having a chassis while keeping the stock short. Hunting I want the Howa as I don’t shoot from a bench, when hunting I don’t bring a chair, a table and a vise/bags, I use a bipod adjustable stand that I sometimes use as a walking stick to vault over objects when stalking because a bolt on bipod is too heavy and I don’t shoot prone much. If you read this then Howa owes me $5. 🤙🏽
Lol good thing I am not Howa because I rarely have 5 dollars
Sikh, well nice to hear you pole vault while hunting. However not all of us hunt and some of us are looking for a damn accurate LRPR to shoot mile plus targets.... so they objective and wants/needs are completely different
@@freeandcriticalthinker4431 lol wut
I agree with pretty much everything you said. People do not realize how good howa rifles are. Great video!
Very true. People see the surface but that is not everything to a rifle.
Before I even watch the clip, the price differential gives away which is better. Are Tikka’s that much better than a Howa to justify the price difference? I’m not sure that they are but there is just that extra refinement about them. Would I buy the Howa? Yes! I did. First in .223. Now I’m no shooting expert. I can operate a firearm safely, choose and mount a suitable scope, sight it in, Punch .224” groups in paper at 100 yds and put foxes down on the spot up to 150 yds (my preferred limit) with that .223 Howa. I’ll never become an expert (mainly because I don’t want to become an adenoidal twerp that professes such). That rifle inspired enough confidence in my shooting that when it came to choosing a .308 it was a no brainer. Add to that the .308 was £525, brand new with brown laminate stock (.223 is ash grey), blued varmint barrel and picatinny rail thrown in; what more reason could you need. (It was a special offer at a show). Even a shooting muppet like me can get moa at 100m. Would the Tikka make me 50% - 60% (based upon the RRP’s I’ve seen) better again? I don’t think so.
So, is the Tikka a better rifle? If they’re just on a bench and you’re looking at the quality and the finish then yes, undoubtably it would win. If you add in the cost and the human factor, then Howa is Tikka’s match everyday of the week!
Now, on to this gent’s review...
Never understand people saying the Tikkas don’t have options. They have 4 barrel profiles: super lite, lite, a sort of medium profile on the roughtechs and Veils, and a varmint/heavy barrel. They also have 2 different polymer stocks, 2 wood stocks, a laminate, and a metal chassis. Some take AICS mags, some take the more hunting oriented plastic mags.
Howa makes probably some of the best value rifles on the market, but as a lefty this isn't even a conversation. Tikka has possibly the largest selection of factory left hand options on the market, while Howa has none at all.
The hs precision is a super expensive upgrade in Canada I think it’s about 600 dollars more than the Hoag, I think it’s priced about 1500 dollars.
Wow crazy I got an HS for 620.00 new when they first came out.
Tikka all the way , I have three of them , 300win , 6.5 creedmoor and 223rem all T3X Supervarmints . Love them all
Very nice!
Still a Tikka Fan. Wanted a rifle with a removable mag that had larger capacity mags available, safety that locked the bolt, stainless steel barrel. Tikka checked all my boxes. Plus exceptional accuracy right out of the box.
Howa actually can mark all those also depending on model
@@Bullets4Bucks Not all of them....not in the same rifle.
@@Bullets4Bucks yes that's true, Howa definitely checks all those boxes and at a better price point that leaves even more money left over for even better glass on top.
@@Simon-talksthe only advantage of the howa is price and if you get the hs precision variant it will feel better but that bumps the price to more than a superlite and you’re still stuck with an inferior design + poorer quality
the real advantage of the Howa is the solid built, bullet proof design that they give you for such a great price compared to the cheap, plasticy feeling tikka. Howa definitely all the way.
When you start out comparing yourself to the competition, you are already behind the 8 ball.
This is making my decision a lot more difficult.
I am looking at jumping into the 6.5 game, and have it narrowed down to essentially 3 rifles
Bergara B-14 HMR ($900)
Howa 1500 HCR ($999)
Tikka T3x Tac lite, and put that in a KRG Bravo stock. ($998 for rifle, $400 for KRG)
All 3 have great feeling factory actions, and good triggers. I don't think there is really any right or wrong choice. It's going to fall down to preference, and overall cost.
Several people have said to me "If you're going to buy the tikka and put it in the KRG Bravo, why not just buy the tac-a1?" Because that is $1800 straight out of the gate! That's why
I order all my guns and have them shipped into a local ffl. I find great deals that way. I probably would just buy a model that comes in a good chassis or stock right off but thats a personal call. The new howa tsp looks cool also. Lots of options.
Ha Ha just use it the way it comes girls🇨🇦😂🤠
Get the howa and ammo
I have had both, I found tikka to have better accuracy out of the box but I like the howa cause you can top feed. Solution was to sell them all and by a Sako.
They are all good rifles forsure.
Ha Ha good one. These guys must be range nerds because you should never have a 1.5 lb trigger on a hunting rifle NO NO NO!😂🤠
@@randyschaff8939 lol
Randy Schaff I totally agree!
Which Sako ???
I was about to pick up t3x, but you make a compelling argument for the howa Thanks for putting it on my radar
Both are good. The Tikka might feel nicer in the hand but I like the build of the Howa. You can't go wrong with either.
The Tikka feels better and lighter for hunting and going out long distances for hunting. The Howa has some heft unless you can find a Alpine model. I think it was their Mountain Rifle series and was lighter, but probably more money than the Tikka.
10$ spring gets the Tikka down to 1.5 lbs.
Good to know. Thank you
@@Bullets4Bucks ....YoDave
www.yodaveproducts.com/store/p27/Tikka_T3%2C_T3X_and_T1X_trigger_spring.html
Mountain tactical $9 dollars my ctr is 1.25 lbs now! Feels better than some of my 2 and 300 dollar triggers!
It goes down to 1.5 without the trigger spring
Wow, excellent video. This kind of info is extremely valuable when considering a new rifle.
Thanks for watching.
Nice to find someone who actually answers the question..
What's that?
These were my two choices to get I was leaning towards the tikka which do you like more or your favorite?
out of these two the tikka but i like the howa hs precision better than both now... i have changed my mind over time...
i have had both,currently run howa 270,both are great shooters,but im a big fan of howa,i like the metal finishes,the plastic on the tikka always worried me,i hunt some rough terrain
I am with you
Hey could you pls do a instruction on how to do the paint jobs on rifles like what you did
Tikka .. my .270 is just a long range tack driver..one shot one kill
They do shoot good :)
From what I have seen, Howa's are more widely available. Tikka T3X light seem hard to find, even online.
I do get why people like 3 stage safety catches but at the same time can’t see it as a deal breaker because if you’re loading/unloading you’re fingers should be no where near the trigger and if you out in the woods same goes trigger discipline is probably the best safety you can have 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Great video. I have a howa 1500 .308 stainless. I regret not getting a heavy barrel, couldn't find ome at the time. Nevertheless, love my howa smoked game at 400. Currently I'm looking for a different caliber 6.5. I keep going back and forth between Tikka and Howa. I'm leaning on tikka because they are more after market friendly vs the howa. Easier to make upgrades and change out barrels.
But of course price is at least a 40% difference in some cases. I don't understand why more guys haven't done reviews on the Howa.
What would you go with? My goal is to shoot 1000 yards this summer.
@Bullets4bucks which would model you you go with now tikka CTR or howa1500 ? I know this video is a little older
Tikka actions are butter smooth. People say the shoot well. I hate their recoil lug design and honestly it scares me a bit if I used it to shoot steel and paper. Howas design is better and definitely a more rigid design. For the money Howa is tough to beat. Tikkas Tupperware stocks are horrendous. I feel Tikkas are over priced for what you get.
Accuracy- tikka, weight-tikka, action-tikka. Plus I’m a lefty-tikka
Quality, out of the box SUB MOA shooting an it is all made by tikka , well the barrel is a sako barrel so that is a plus. But what I find very interesting is with all the pluses that howa has, the tikka still shoots better than it does. So that tells me either the stock is as good as the howa OR the tikka is just that much better.. plastic trigger guard, plastic stock, and better shooting.. hmmmmmm
Rockjock007 the Howas are sub MOA.
That said, if I were using it as a bench rest, paper puncher I may lean towards a Tikka.
But as a hunting rifle, with a sporter barrel, I’ll go with a Howa 1500 stainless, which I did. It’ll make that clean, kill shot no problem. After seasoning the barrel, and zeroing the scope, the only other times it went to the range, is prior to a hunt, to confirm it’s still holding zero. After the hunt, it’s cleaned, and stored, until the next hunting trip. Bolt guns are not recreational shooters, to me.
@@Rockjock007 tikka /sako barrels all made in the same place...no difference..😉
I’ve spoken to guys who builds pretty hi end rifles importing barrels from the states and one guy told me his stock howa barrel machining was more accurate than the custom barrels he imports
I believe it
I'm very happy with my Howa Kuiu Tucson 308. I don't think they make that model anymore. Very accurate...
Scratch that, It's the Kuiu Verde, with the fish scale pattern on top of the camo..
Very nice
The weatherby vanguard would be a better comparison. There fitt n finish is much better then howa does on the 1500. The vanguard is fit n finished by weatherby. It would be much closer comparison
You bought the Tikka model with a single stage. Mine is 2 stage. Also you can change the spring in the trigger to 1 .5 pounds. That’s it. Thank you
Howa is extremely accurate with quality handloaded ammo. The Vanguards are too. I simply prefer the Howa.
Tikka all day. Simple safety. Smooth action. Excellent trigger. Who cares about upgrades (except for a quality scope). If you have to upgrade your rife you bought the wrong rifle. Tikka all day. My 10\22 takedown. The only thing that I upgraded was the furniture. I liked the Magpul better than stock that it came with. The rifle itself was fine.
There is always a winner and a looser...Don't be scared to give the credit to the better rifle...lol!!!
Really like your videos. I just learned I could build a "semi-custom" hunting rifle instead of buying a CVA Cascade XT or Bergara Wilderness Sierra. I do want to build one but don't want to spend over $2K even though I could. My wife would then shoot me. I like how strongly you praise the Howa. So you feel very good about the barrel and receiver as far as accuracy and durability? Where would you suggest I buy this barreled action from? Brownells? Keep up the good work!
Brownells
Bias is real here, tikka is way better
Sounds like your bias for tikka. The recoil lug on tikka sucks.
@@Bullets4Bucks Recoil lug doesn't mean a whole lot in a chassis gun, and if you really want to know the difference between the 2 rifles, shine a flashlight down the bores and take a look.
@@DeadLemonz these are not chassis rifles... looking down the bore doesn't mean much unless its damaged.
@@Bullets4Bucks It's the 21st century, if you're replacing a stock at all you've got no reason to avoid putting it in a chassis. Also it shows the the difference in finishing between the 2 rifles. That extra work put into tikka/sako barrels is the reason why they'll outshoot factory howas every time. (when respectably equipped with stock/mount/rings/scope)
@@DeadLemonz I am gonna have to disagree with that based on my experience but if thats what you think thats fine. I use stocks for hunting. Chassis don't work very well for most of my hunting.
Gee, you have a Howa sign behind you. How did I ever guess you would like the Howa better then the Tikka before the video even started ?
I atleast explain why. I do like tikka though and also the winchester model 70 with the controlled round feed action. Biggest gripe with tikka is stock and recoil lug.
Tikka wins in my book for Rimfire vs Howa, feel free to check out my comparison
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@@Bullets4Bucks After seeing your video and the experience my friends have, I think I'll be purchasing a Howa rifle in .223.
I have owned both and like both however all of the tikka's are more accurate
Great review, thank you. Have to agree. These two must be top contenders for overall quality in this price range. Can you please review the newish CVA cascade for us please. Especially vs the Howa and Tikka
I will see what I can do. I almost bought a cva cascade last month but don't know much about them.
The Howa is just the better rifle. Solid, quality, accuracy, and no plastic.
I love that Howa sell the barrelled actions without a stock so that you can put them into whatever you want. I have built a few Howa over the years in various stocks and they all performed extremely well accuracy wise right out of the box.
I have my own which is a long action 30-06 sitting in a Boyd's Agility with pillar bedding. I originally planned to Devcon bed it but didn't need to. The thing is a half MOA gun at 100 metres out of the box with bog standard Federal factory ammunition.
Pass the dope brother, I own multiple of both and it isn’t close. Tikka all day
Definitely Howa all day long for any serous shooter who knows rifles and isn’t on drugs….
I love my howa alpine mountain rifle. They discontinued it. Super light and awesome stock and very accurate. Basically a legendary arms works rifle for way less money. I got two of them new in box on gunbroker for under $700. If I had to pay full price I’d go buy an xbolt pro
I do wish they still had the alpine. I don't really care for the xbolt but many do.
Bullets4Bucks xbolt pro has a lot going for it but the sako carbonlight is my dream rifle. I was disappointed in the quality control of the howa alpine. My hinges floor plate wouldn’t open because of the stock fit. The 10 round plastic magazine howa has is pretty much crap. They really need to redesign that thing.
Ive had 3 Tikka's and 3 Howa 1500 and only had 1 bad one, it was a Tikka, it just would not shoot
Love the Howas they are better in my opinion as half the price here in the UK with great accuracy
Howa all the way
About to get a new Howa Kuiu lightweight in 308. I'm excited about that. Never shot a Howa before. I've heard good things about them.
The hogue stock is definitely not as good as the hs precision stock just something to be aware of
@@Bullets4Bucks Ib'm aware. Plan is to eventually update to a Bell and Carlson medalist from Midway. Has an aluminum bedding block and is 2 lbs.
Mcarbo has a spring for the tikka trigger. brings it down to about 1 1/2 lb.
Both amazing cant go wrong with either one just preference imo
Both are good.
Bullets4Bucks forsure i just ordered a howa hcr in 6.5 creed and tripod suggestions for it? Oh and i got a vortex viper for it my first long range gun!!
@Blue Dragon awesome I have done a build with one of their barreled actions it was fun
I am partial to Tikka. But Howa is really improving their game.
The howa hs precision was a better value but prices went up
Tikka is only a 2 year warranty, Howa is a lifetime warranty that tells me how much each company believes in their product
I believe its a transferable warranty also
Howa rocks , it's super accurate , 700 bones for a 308 apc
Yes it does
Meh howa is flying off the racks like crazy
People an argue all they want saying a howa 1500 is the same as weatherby vanguard and yes thats half true. The action is the same design. But weatherby does the assembly and finish work on there version. The bolt and raceway is lapped and has a more rugged consistent cerakote job, also stock fitment is better on the weatherby. .It passes the gravity bolt test just like a tika .
the problems with Tikka are what you laid our for sure .. .the plastic (and even their walnut) stock leaves a lot to be desired. But the real issue is that 3 years ago when you made this video the price gap wasn't that large between a Howa and a Tikka but now tikka are selling Stainless models for close to $1000 when they cost around $750 a few years ago.. With Howa you can buy a barreled action for 400-500 bucks spend another 300-500 bucks on a really nice stock and you have an amazing rifle for less than a tikka. Also as you point out Howa is offering amazing stock options as well. I also really like the internal magazine system on the Howa ... just simple and nothing to fall out and get lost while hunting.
What about comparing the weights of the bare rifles?
The Tikka t3x super light weighs 6.4 lbs the how's hogue lightweight weighs 7 lbs according to catalogue. With many different options it's hard to give a real weight comparison.
I have two Howa's one in 223 and one in 308. My rifles are good enough that I have no desire to upgrade. With that being said, the Tikka is the better rifle in my opinion. If I had nothing and knowing what I know now, I would choose the Tikka.
The catch is the Tikka isn't far enough ahead of the howa for me to jump ship.
With the howa I’m planning on getting the hogue stainless steel barrel 6.5 creedmoor and I like the style for loading without having to worry abt the magazine and stuff
Good choice
How good and stiff is that Howa's stock? I've always had bad experiences with Hogue stocks - just way too much flex. What's that one like?
Its better than a savage axis or ruger american. Its not amazing but not bad. Its solid not rubberized. I do not recommend the rubberized hogue
@@Bullets4Bucks whats wrong with the rubberized howa stock?
@@scotteger6271 it flexes
a lot
@@Bullets4Bucks so is it different than the older, non-rubberized Howa stocks? I had an older 243 and it seemed pretty decent. What "budget" bolt action would you recommend for a similar price or even slightly more?
The Tikka T3 costs nearly twice as much as the Howa 1500. A better comparison would be the Tikka against a Weatherby even though Howa makes Weatherby.
Depends on the model of Howa. Definitely not true where I live.
@@Bullets4Bucks I order online. I paid $400 for my Howa 1500 7mm-08 with a scope and if you find a Tikka T3 for under $700 you are doing well. If you are paying much over $500 for a 1500 you might as well get a Vanguard. I think I paid close to T3 money for my Weatherby Badlands 7 mag.
@@adamelam6385 And what Howa model did you get.... the Howa 1500 is the name of the action... like the remington 700 use to come is tons of different variants. Was it the Howa Hogue, Howa HS Precision, Howa Oryx, Howa elevate, Howa stalker, Howa Bravo? Some Howa's cost over 1500.00
@@Bullets4Bucks the 1500 with the Hogue. It was a good rifle but Howa and Weatherby are both chunkers compared to other rifles in their price range. I usually recommend Howa.
Can you tell me more about paint job on your Tikka? Looks great...
Duracoat spray paint from walmart
Tikka
Can buy a prefit fixed shoulder barrel aftermarket... (besides custom actions only begara mass produces a firearm that supports this)
Can reduce trigger weight to less than 1 pound with a trigger spring that costs 8 bucks...
The aftermarket support is only second to the r700 action...
a chassis for the tikka is 380 bucks...
Howa less aftermarket support then Savage which is saying something...
Yes they shoot okay out of the box tho...
Good review. However the Tikka T3X Superlight has a fluted bolt and barrel and only weighs less that 6# bare gun. The Tikka in this video is not a Superlight but a just a standard T3X.
Dude its definitely a superlite. Look at the tikka website its a version sold at sportsmans warehouse.
You are correct. My error. The Tikka T3X Superlight Veil models have both the fluted bolt and fluted barrel. The standard T3X Superlight like you show in your video only has the fluted barrel. I have both models. My Superlight Veil model is chambered in 7mm Rem. Mag and my standard T3X Superlight is .243 caliber. Both are tack drivers and very light.
@@lcjjr.6714 i love the veil. I want one. I do make lots of mistakes no biggie.
You can replace the trigger spring on the Tikka to make the pull lighter
What kind of scope do you have on the Howa ??
I have the Howa .223 mini action blued, I punched in 5 bullets in a perfect hole at 50m with Geko Express 55gr and also at 100m 3 in a perfect hole. It’s a very accurate rifle for a budget price.
Great to hear!
Bought my wife one for hr 40th and it shoots 3/4 inch with 55g at 100yards, brilliant gun - got a .243 and a 7mm08 too
I once bought a Weatherby vanguard sporter and it was the worst rifle I ever owned shot 4" groups at 100 yards. I'm thinking it may have been from the howa barrels they use, the rough cut rifling really collected copper in a hurry. The howa 1500 is an alluring rifle at the price, but I don't wanna go through all that again. I've always been able to depend on the accuracy of savage and remington rifles
It all comes down to personal choice
You can buy a spring and be able to adjust trigger don below even a pound. SPRING IS LESS THAN 10 DOLLARS!.
I will have to try one
It all comes down to personal choice.
howa is better just because of the trigger and the recoil lug. accuracy is about ammo. tikka is not more accurate.
Tikka finally gets the respect it deserves but the Howa is still a sleeper. When someone around here wants a budget rifle they either go Ruger American or Savage but the Howa is every bit as good.
Howa is a much better rifle than savage or the ruger. All savage has going for them is accuracy and ruger In my opinion is overated. Shitty action, 50/50 sub moa accuracy, poor stock and rising cost.
@@Trudeau-is-Stalin I’m not arguing at all, I like Howa better.
Love your perspective was helpful
Thank you
Great video. Thank you... What scope do you have on the two rifles? What would you recommend for a Howa 30-06?
Michael from Canada
One is a Bushnell Engage 4-16x44 which I like and one was a Nikko Sterling 4-16x44 that wasn't bad either. I recommend the Howa H-S Precision in pretty much any caliber you like.
In Canada where I am, a Howa 1500 24in heavy barrel is half the price of a Tikka T3X CTR so I guess my decision is made.
I prefer the Howa out of the box. Don’t have to do anything to it. The Tikka I would want to change the recoil lug and a couple other things.
Excellent as I'm thinking about these two in a 223. Thanks
Good choice!
On the Tikka you can still work the bolt while the safety is on by pressing down on the safety, something you missed in the video. Good comparison otherwise!
Thanks
Must be an aftermarket change or dud. My Tikka’s does not do that…
Howa Super Light GAME OVER !