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Hi Naayil you play a game called league of legends
No he doesn't
Oh really? Mann i thought he was playing Command & Conquer: Red alert 2 Yuri's Revenge
No way bro i think he playin milf city
@@sharkyshark52i knew it looks familiar
Am I the only one who got the message behind the comment?
Bros have the iq of a cooked bean.
Interesting how every time tank meta comes back, literally noone is happy about it and on hit adc's come back with insane win/pick rates, yet Riot does NOTHING to balance things out, despite the call out from everyone, even people that do streaming League as a full time job, not just regular players. Tbh, it is disgusting seeing these picks on top lane; I remember times where the weirdest/out of lane pick that you were going to see was Gragas/Shaco or something similar top. Nowadays it is fucking ADCity all over again (s6 vibes) except there is literally no counterplay to this playstyle. At most if you're lucky you're getting carried by a Kaisa, Kog, Trist etc. Yeah you won, but at what fucking cost?
add on top the current death timer tp issue and even if you fucking get to kill them you barely neutralize the lane
@@kano101435 And they have the audacity to ask why is the game dying🤣
Bro is out here giving johnny silverhand vibes
@@AndyGS1337"but it's fun tho" and then 30% of the roster vanishes from the current meta making you look like a tard in the pond
Nothing another Ahri skin can't fix
If they continue turbo buffing adc like that then by the next Worlds the meta will be: 4 adc + Nautilus vs. 4 adc + Leona.
And even then Phreak will continue gaslighting people (and himself) that "this season is bad for adc".
And there is ashe and Senna to go sup too 😅
gives overwatch vives when the game died
Agree
S12-14, tenacity keeps on getting nerfed, damage keeps on getting powercrept, bruiser items keep on getting weaker and marksmen items keep on getting buffed, rlly fun and engaging😂
Idk about bruiser items nerf. It's just not perfect for Aatrox at moment. Still eclipse, sundered sky, bloodlords and especially streaks are strong
@@AlienSlikerno, all bruiser items are weak and all bruisers are suffering very hard, aatrox should work very well with sundered sky eclipse DD maw basically all bruiser items, but they're all so weak right now it sucks
@@ImmaPhoenix coping mate. Bruiser items are lit. Its just the crit items who is overbuffed asf
@@PaladineAvenger1 well that s what he meant, they are weak compared to what adcs and mags get.
yeah marksmen are definitely the problem. Try going 5 games without seeing a tank just walk towards an adc while taking 12 total damage from 100 autoattacks and then kill the adc with heartsteel proc, autoreset ability and then some hydra item active.
the best cure for cancer that is ADCs is to make Assassin actually good again.
ADCs are better assassins than assassins half the time once youre in the mid-late game, its disgusting.
But if assassins can actually be the anti-adc class then itd help balance out the stupidity that is ADC meta taking over every lane.
nah, assassins meta is awful. even worse than adc meta. You see enemy assassin getting early double kill and you know its over. Just because this creature will oneshot you 2 mins later with zero counterplay
@@PaladineAvenger1there Is a counter play called PEEL + CC
Every fucking meta is about ADC, balance team cried that the ghost was broken, but now EVERY ADC has 450 movement speed with 2 items, so where is the nerf? only for melee champions
they couldnt kite for shit so they nerfed melees
every mechanic in the game is a lot worse for melee champs than they are for ranged champions. theres only a handful of mechanics that counter especially ranged champions. like senna fog or xin zhao ult. apart from that life is tough for a melee champ. if only giving up range advantage would provide other benefits like not dying to 3 auto attacks mid-late game. oh wait, everyone deals a gazillion damage so it doesnt matter. pick the most overloaded most mobile most gimmicky champions beacuse you'll deal damage anyways
@@reculixd4345 that moment when the support has 600 movespeed for no reason
ADCs faster than hecarim at this point
Its literally just the Marksmen playing the game. The rest who decided to not pick a Marksmen are mainly just fillers, because the game requires 5 players on each team.
its your job as a frontliner to get hit repeatedly so the adc players feel good hitting you
Hashinshin explained perfectly why ADCs are so good in solo lanes vs melees. They can poke you from safety and probably have some sort of dash. And every time you decide to stop chasing, they get free damage. And the biggest problem is that they can poke you while also completely denying any farm since they have 500 range (or whatever) in two directions. Melee lane bullies can't deny you xp while also farming. Because they have to walk back to farm every time they try to bully you. ADCs don't.
Mages aren't as abusive in the same way because they need to use mana and can actually run out of resources. But they're still really annoying.
This.
People keep telling everyone that adc top is a harsh and complex gameplay but what's the complexity if scaling and range advantage is what you're good at, and your only losing condition is a tank like malphite?💀
He stood by his words for years while getting laughed at, but now we finally see that Lord Hashinshin was right all this time. Even he doesn't play the game anymore.
@@alexanderatanasov5837 he got bored by the circular meta in lol. Tanks>mages>marksmen>tanks>mages>marksmen>tanks
It's a never ending cycle.
No reason to play most melee champs nowadays. No fun allowed
Hashinshin would be the hero we need in the balance team to make league Great again 🔥
Dude when the kalista started auto attacking and rell chained CC on Naayil Istg this is peak gameplay
1:31 Fiora: Hahahahah, get fked.
1:33 Fiora: O-
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As a Warwick player, I agree with everything he said this game.
Jinx and kaisa weren't selling enough skins so now we're stuck with this ADCity meta garbage.
yeah so the game is intended to be played by adcs right clicking whatever their tanks hard cc so unless ur on one of these 2 categories u are forbidden of existing. it's not even about aatrox anymore it's about bruisers being the absolute worst rn
When i destroy the Top Lane.... mostlty my Team fails and we lose. When i lose my top lane mostly the game is a win. Insane, but thats how it is.
Whenever I say that all games if not snowballed are completely decided by who has the best adc. I get called crazy and that adc's are trash, that that only happens on my plat matches where you can get to min 30 so adc have full build. He is fucking challenger and this is a regular, adc's are not bad, they just don't one shot in early (lets ignore trist and corky); in all games the team with better adc wins, period. I played and play adc as second/third main role since I started, I never felt this role was bad at any point, just unfunny to have the entire enemy team diving you at level 4 to 8. Adc mains have gaslighted everyone and riot into believing that they are the worst role, when the only problem is that they are the worst players and have to deal with being dependent for like 20 mins.
The problem with aatrox is that the lethality build does damage but you are too skishy meanwhile the bruiser build i feel it does no damage unlees you are hyper feed. I think one solution is to include % enemy max health damage on Q and it increases with max health that is if riot wants people to go bruiser on him.
Yeah sure why not make it so it one shots people too
4:30 that. that right there. hit the nail on the head my man. I do not like champions having a clear role designed into them and the playerbase going "nah, imma do it my way".
also that whole bit about people that enjoy being "QUIRKY AND OUT OF THE BOX XD" is PRECISELY why i think Bauss (imma slap Drututt here for good measure since it also applies to him) is bad for the game.
Bauss as a person? love the guy, chill as fuck and his streams are 100% comfy. Bauss as a player? i. fucking. despise. him. He ruins the balance for the game and for everyone who enjoys playing whatever champion he decides to try his "unique playstyle" for that week until he moves on to ruining yet another champion.
AP Irelia shouldn't even have ever existed and you know it. The very fact it DOES exist and it ruined the game for a good chunk of weeks because someone watched Bauss SOMEHOW pull it off and decided he could do that is proof enough that Bauss(as a player) and his simps are a cancer on this community.
and only reason Bauss didn't lose his accounts because he is a big streamer, if you go play AP irelia and int you'll lose your accounts one by one. double standards of riot
every time i see rammus top it’s a free win. as long as he encourages players to keep running down games it’s ok. the only times i lose to sion is when they actually PLAY the laning phase like they’re supposed to. inting doesn’t work, because now you have to deal with 7/0 camille
top lane is only good in low elo games, but when every player in the lobby is good, the role itself becomes irrelevant lmao
No not even in low elo, i'm low elo and I can be a 8/0 garen and still be usless, i cam be a 6/0 Yorick and still be usless
The only thing u can do in low elo as top lane is to guide ur team 4 obiettive (like dragon or baron) to be there and help a bit the mid or adc to do dmg that's it
U can't carry any game no matter what
My game are like this
I win the lane , i loose the game
I loose the lane , i loose the game
I win the game and my mid friend is fidded i win the game
I loose the lane and my mid friend is fidded, i win the game
Top is like
Oh wel min 15 mi game is done
Let's start to walk around the map doing nothing for 15 min very funny
I play adc some time, the difference is crazy
If i play jhin my team can't do shit if i'm not there (and I'm not so good at adc)
If i play top i'm always usless
it's frustrating because it's not fun to be usless
And tank top are not better because u need to have a team but in low elo u don't have a team usualy
I tried to play tank top some times
Yeah when mundo was broken af maybe u could do a 1vs 3 ok but broken champ
Now u can't
U can play, now u can play Tahm Kench and be tanky af but in late game u can't do 1vs1 (and that's oke) but it also mean u have to Pray ur team to help u
Man one game whit Tahm whas crazy we where loosing and I was the only guy u won the lane , I tried to help man i waisted like 10 min oly walking from point A to point B because my team had no direction, they just go from stupid fight to stupid fight , and we lost
And the crazy part is that in low elo u can try to speak with ur team but they don't listen
, so u say something like "guys we need a plan we can't just walk around the map 4 no reason i'm slow u need me, but i can't be everywhere and if i leeve top for 10 min we have enemy team on inibitor, so pls fight only for objective, try to be wise pls", and u know what they do? They fight more
fiora and camille are both lane bullies but they scale way to well without effort
darius is a lane bully but his scaling is not good unless you play into him
Darius is a strong lane bully, but he's insanely useless without ghost, especially in teamfights. And with the current meta being what it is, the Darius is never going to be able to do fuck all in a teamfight because everyone has 300 dashes and 30582 movement speed
@@lashedandscorned darius was good before ghost nerf. this sum is such in a sad state nowadays, guess who should we thank for it
@@PaladineAvenger1 As always ADCs ruining the game. Ghost was originally used by slow immobile bruisers. Then ADCs started using that. Then ADCs also started building bruiser items, like that time when Zeri was stupidly broken & unkillable. Now everyone is spamming Kai'sa, Tristana and on-hit ADCs that grape everyone. Yet mfs still manage to convince themselves ADC is somehow weak.
@@lashedandscorned A lot of spells and items should be restricted for adcs
imagine riot decides that the 2 waves after one of the top laners reach lvl 7 are not coming out and they are free to roam and the "3rd wave" has double xp. adcs will rush top then haha
I like playing singed but playing it normally, like laning without proxying and stuff... then its more like Darius if you really look at it, you just ghost and run down the laner with stat checking
As and adc main, this current meta sucks. I like playing my role, but I don't want everyone being canaled into it. If the opposite were the case and everyone had to play bruisers or mages in bot, I would be PISSED
I still rather play against warwick or singe over ranged top personally. Yes they are annoying, but I feel I have a better chance at killing them over someone who pokes me to below half from range and i cant counter play at all.
Brawling against Warwick is fun
i dont want to play top anymore now I play velkos support
I quit the game like... 5 months ago, never been so happy on my life and I just lost it all by watching that this game is hopeless and it gets worse and worse
I mean the fiora didnt deserve the win either
She played lane well, lots of w stuns which don't usually happen.
@@ExalyThor Aatrox has heavily telegraphed stuns though
not only toplane mid too jungle is only still good cuz they can at least camp botlane but currently the only lane really having fun and playng the game is botlane 90% of the times
The irony of the people who complain about tank meta, is that tanks are oddly enough the only thing that can deal with ADCs, so really its an ADC meta.
I'm not one to complain, as i love playing tanks and defensive playstyles in various games, but to me its very clear that its not about how strong the tank is, its about the ADC; either kill the enemy ADC or die trying to defend your ADC
I really think toplane is only relevant if you pick something that is really good late game. Like Smolder, Kayle, Mundo.
Mundo is useless in anything higher than silver, and I'd rather chew my own nutsack off than play Kayle or Smolder
Personally i really like off meta picks (except of rangers, keep that shit on your own lane)
I always tried to find something fun to play like full ap seju top or aatrox support, its my favorite thing about league that if you try enough you can pretty much play whatever you want, it might not be good but at least its fun
I only play Warwick jungle and my friend plays Olaf top only but we always play together
This is why I stopped playing top
Blitzcrank supp better just q and e and get lp 🗣🔥
Honestly, if ADCs and mages invading our Toplane is unfair, it should be equally unfair to THEM that we invade their Midlane and Bot. But its just not. In fact we get punished while they're rewarded? Where's the justice?
1:32 that was funny
They should honestly bring back the early minion tp back. Makes top lane more useful and impactful early game instead of a farming sim. Makes it alot better helping a losing bot lane if you also have a losing jgler with a top tp.
yea they f up aatrox, forcing he go bruiser while nerfing bruiser items
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One of the reasons why I hated this game being centered around pro-play, tbh pro-play is really what ruined this game.
Completely agree with you, I just don't enjoy playing anymore, this game is just not the game that made me main aatrox, just does not feel good to play anymore
As a skarner player i feel like old skarner top was way more creative and new skarner top is better
The only reason toplane still matters is marksmen need a meatshield thats it
Please show the unboxing on youtube too!
just today a fought the same heimerdinger three times and even tho i won lane the 3 times i ended up losing the game twice
I dont want to play top lane anymore, now am support vel'kos player
First game, super fed, got a cuadra, lost with mi mid lamer trying base run vs 3 enemy’s in our base with Nash. Quit playing and seeing the title 😕
I really think this is a consequence of the no influence from top tp update but it becomes more powerful and now that they made it useless again like riot does every few years it feels doomed because we have less things to do against this play stile although maybe it is too much of an adc meta seeing how unplayable mid is right now.
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With the loss of lethal tempo and ADC items just giving you big numbers the role is HEAVILY less skilled than before, almost every build is the same, every marksman feels similar and to kill a tank you need a lot more dps, however you kill everyone else in 2 autos, a complete 180 turn on what the roles purpose is, and now with the early game that we have you can bring marksman to solo lanes and bully your opponent in lane
Even I don't like the state of ADC even if it's when I'm most op, cause a lot of what made the role fun has been taken away
GOD TIER COMEBACK
So nothing changed?
remove ranged top,buff black cleaver boom fixed!
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That's the reason I left toplane. F..k this role bro
real
fucking hate this dogshit role
I know this feeling but this is the feeling botlaners had for so long
Sick t shirt as soon as i saw it i instantly bought it now i can watch the video
RaiotAugust: we arent buffing zed,
NEw patchNotes: buffed zed
By ten damage. The buffs are for ten damage.
To me top lane is not enjoyable,I enjoy playing bot or support because it's close to drake and many other reasons but it depends on what I think I lack on that lane,it depends on my own experience in the elo that I currently play,for example I was b2 and I played adc first because I felt like playing adc and second because in bronze ADCs aren't that good,now I'm s2 and I'm playing whatever DMG support I know how to play, I main at least 5 or 6 supports because those are the champs I know how to play and enjoy playing and I main 4 ADCs and I hope it's enough for ranked so it's a few mages and a few ADCs including senna and I was almost plat4 last season I just try to stick to basic knowledge and I try developing playing habits and I stick to champs I know how to play but I don't think I can just main one champ and get away with it and I don't think I can play them all at once or switch so quickly it also depends on what I feel like playing,sometimes it's sivir sometimes smolder sometimes aphelios or senna or ziggs,but I'm not the best at any of them or onetrick them it's all based on how I feel like playing them in certain combinations.Honestly sivir is the most fun and easy for me to play cuz of yun tal and ruunan currently and many other reasons but I like diversity I don't think top is bad but i don't like playing it because its a solo lane and I have little impact on the rest of the map and there is little chance to turn the game around if things go bad especially when u are behind,so if u can't take towers or put pressure on map u have little impact on the game and you are not so much team fight oriented unless you are tanky and have good cc and DMG and that is really demanding for champs that either lack range or mobility.
37 minute game and conqurer did only 77 damage, how can this be this low?
the number on conqueror is heal from max stack not dmg, (if you are at 12 stacks you gain a little omnivamp)
That's the problem with the League
Winning is not fun
Im happy i quited about 2 years ago ....
Guys i wanted to buy the Aatrox t-shirt too, but there isn't Europe in the shipping section, did anyone get it? I thought Naayil was in Austria right now, how did he get it
05:00 brother you just said everyone should pick vayne because people pick it
That being said what do you think of baus
moving is funny haha
Only way to make this game better is to delete adc’s
Pls look at the new aatrox skin
Who does Naayil usually ban? Fiora is a hard counter so why didn't he ban her?
What do you mean Singed is not creative on top lane ? :O Singed has huge diversity in terms of playstyles and runes i would say he is creative pick in hands of OTPS
I stopped playing league this season because just like Naayil says "top lane is useless" and I agree. Playing the game feels awful. The only good thing is ARAM :) (master tier)
just got sht on playing aatrox :)
it will be sad if you quit league like Hashinshin
Only giga chad play WW in high elo. Not open to debate
I don’t like playing this game rn
I was Gold 1 while playing only 30 games each split and now I am Gold 4 because I lost 10 to 15 Ranked in a row
I mean it’s most of the time kinda my bad but I also get some good games but can’t carry that shit cause of my botlane that’s going 1/10 every game
Kinda depressing 😂
who the hell is vavik
Traduction: top doesn't matter jg either adc is a joke supp too dependiant and mid is mid
Pure luck League Of Legends
"Why do I not get free movement speed for pressing Q?"
Uhhh maybe because you get to heal to full life for free by pressing Q?
I think cassio top is very creativ
Do you like fiddlesticks top :D
adcs been the win condition since day 1, yet they're still weak somehow
at least you didn’t have shit team this game brother
i play yone/zac top 😀
Nah but top lane is such C lately. Your jungle paths bot and stays bot. Their jungle gets every grubs and sup / mid roams. Unplayable
Again?
indeed toplane is useless, i got 12/0 and my team still managed to ruin a won game, sad that this game gives 0 rewards for being actually good when your team is shit, at least they should take aeay less lp if you performanced well
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Chillll u just needed to let your team scale lol be happy you got carried i wish I could get carried every game lol idgaf 99% of my games are "if I personally don't blow up enemy nexus we just lose" so I'm glad to get carried whenever it happens
thats a long message from me , cuz i think its an interesting topic , im a master player , ex midlaner , that played a lot of toplane , and enjoys some adc experience at the moment : I think you need a little break , sure ranged top are annoying to go against , and sure ap jnglers being very strong + some solo laners adcs being very strong too doesnt help the meta being fun for bruisers , but i personally think adcs on midlane is fine and i would argue way funnier that boring mages that litteraly pushed waves over and over and over until using 2 or 3 buttons in a tf to deal massive dmg or cc , champs like malz or lissandra will always be why i hate the most as an ex midlaner , nothing is more boring . And at least adcs needs skill to be played ( thats why its a high elo problem ) and so an adc that does one mispose , or one extra aa that was too much and its instantly over for them , and thats fine thats just the role , an adc , even omega super fed , will always be quite squichy , and shouldnt have too many ways to escape a melee , thats why tristana is broken . Also i disagree with the " toplane has no impact " at least in soloq if you are better its prob the best role to 1v9 , since toplaners are op champs and you would be ahead of exp and golds , and you can 1v2 1v3 depending on the champ , carry teamfights or split , and i would argue that in soloq adc is prob the worst role to play if you want to have impact , since botlane is 2v2 and the supports are supposed to dictate the lane ( at least the trades ) so if you get supp gap , you lost lane even if you are a better adc than ennemy adc ,you can also be jng gapped , and it hit harder than toplane since one good gank is 2 kills for them , not 1 , and the thing is that if you lost lane as adc cuz of your support or jng or both or even mid with roams , then you are useless until you farm enough to have items since you are a scaling , late game role . The good part is that at high elo with humans , adc role becomes easier , and people will play around you so you can carry better , while in toplane at high elo , you are kinda stuck in your mu , but even then , winning lane as a toplaner is huge deal , and i cant even remember how many games i lost cuz of topgap , this is unplayable , at least a fed adc you can outplay him and kill him if he overplays , a fed top can litteraly split and 1v3 , or go to a teamfight and tank everything while one shotting everyone . And btw i play all lanes , i love mid top and adc roles . But ye remember , you losing cuz the other side is too fed and you cant outcarry that is NOT a toplane problem , its a LOL problem ,a team game problem , adcs has the same problem , mid a bit less since they can impact other lanes . I still hope for a solution against ranged top without killing adcs as a whole , cuz it does feel super cringe as a bruiser to go against ranged player at high elo . But the whole " toplane has no impact " is bullshit , its very not true in soloq , its not even true with pros also , if you ever get frustrated playing toplane , keep in mind that at least , you are in a 1v1 lane and YOU being fed does depend on YOU , thats cool .
Nah top lane never matter
Please keep my lane out of the entire dogshit teamates
top gap
Adc season it seems
camille and fiora gets move speed for no reason
> aatrox gets mobility on ult for no reason
> also has dash on miniscule cd
a bit biased, arent we
You compared an Ult with like 80 sec. CD, with Cammilas and Fioras q's that have like 5 sec. CD. Also there is a reason why Aatrox gets MS, see those big-ass wings behind him? Yeah, that's the reason.
@@Axetale_Sans at least you can see what rank he is considering what he thinks.
That a problem ... People think they need carry every game And if you Lost like you they give up And dont help to other Guys carry
Im otp singed lol
A game is only lost when the nexus is destroyed.
"The current state of Naayil's mental" is a much more fitting title.
nutn sagst noich ainmal was über singet komme nach jhaßuse zu dir
He needs a break from the game