How to break into a Greenwald coin box . coin op laundry vault
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Have YOUR KEYS been STOLEN, lost,....need to get into YOUR vault?...
DISCLAIMER.... This video is meant to help OWNERS regain the use of their equipment in case of lost keys.
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Junkies love doing this in Seattle, maybe some have this video a thumbs up?
thanks!! this explains why mine had a piece of metal spot welded over it, partially obscuring the key hole
This was very helpful, I watch this video, came through my feed before I actually needed to do it.
My Greenwald UGH-800 boxes that utilize the flat style key were just broken into on 3 week old machines. I didn';t even have the first chance to empty them! They hit 8 machines and who knows how much they got, but I assume quite a bit!. We just took 1 new box to try an experiment on, so we installed the box and then ran a fair size flat head screw-driver into the lock key-way, tapped a few times with a hammer to set the screwdriver then with a pair of vice grips locked on the shaft of the screw drive I just twisted it clockwise and it opened. What a piece of garbage from Greenwald and they have to know this! I have found the best coin box locks to be the barrel style and I am now looking around to find the barrel style locks that I can install into these brand new boxes I bought (machines came with the Greenwald flat key style coin box and I had no choice of lock style). Buyer we aware . . .
We would average $110- $120 in each box, sorry to hear about your loss. Sounds like you need some sort of security system, maybe cameras? IDK if that helps anymore as the fuzz says they cant do anything even whit video. I was told the officer would had to have seen it with his own 2 eyes .. BS!
Thanks for your input and good luck with your Machines.
This is exactly right! We have 3 machines with the flat key, and 4 with the round, half-moon style key. Someone broke in last week and it looks like they did exactly what you say...no sign of drilling, just brute force with a screwdriver. The machines with the half-round key were left alone.
@@slottybadfast8826 totally makes sense.
Thanks for your presentation well done .
Only foolproof way to get into it is to use a Dremel with cutting wheel to remove outer shroud and the inner lock tumbler. Takes about 45-60 minutes and uses about 10-12 cutting wheels - maybe $10 worth of wheels.
I wouldn't break in either but good tip for lost keys I wonder how many laundry mat owners know that trick.
I've seen people attempt this too many times to count. For the mental midgets who can't get this to work you may want to look for the
Greenwald stamp on the vault. I personally have never seen one on the thousands of machines I've serviced.
Thanks for the video! Saved me $300 on a locksmith
300 bucks, and you learned something. Thanks for watching
Question: What size drill bit is that?
Thanks for your response, I watched the video however the video showed how to open the cabinet with the key and I don't have the key. I need to open the top lid because I want to change the price on the mechanism. I will try to dril it, thanks again for your response
Like I did in that video, use a center punch to indent the center of that lock then drill it out. You will drill down anout 1 inch and that will take out the little armmechnisim that locks down the lid. Pretty easy with sharp drill bit . Good luck.
This wasn't as easy as it looks. Seems a 5/16 bit is too big even after widening the slot. I have been trying a 3/16-which does fit but I've broken a few bits already!
+m green Try a good Bit. ( no harbor freight junk ) oh and don't use an impact drill. let the drill bit and drill do the work. Try not pushing hard on the drill and us e 1/2 the drill speed. Good Luck
@@breakerbroke23 So what size???
I just did this and it works! You have to PUSH the drill into there really, really hard. I had to lean all of my body weight into it. You are drilling into metal after all. Took out $220!
Very good!
Cheers.
We used to use pry bars, but it was very loud and time consuming
Thanks, that is exactly how the thieves got into my coin boxes. Have to replace eight locks now. Where do I send the bill?
breakerbroke23 I was just whining. I hid wireless motion detectors in the laundry rooms and caught the thief in the act. Had to pepper spray him. Installing new security locks and self closing hinges as well. Now if the government would give me a permit for death ray lasers... Ha!
+Sunny Jim Well Iam glad you gave the slime bag "red eye", I hope da man makes him pay restitution. Better be careful on the lasers, you have way more to loose that that scum bag. Good luck and thanks for commenting...BB23
breakerbroke23 I was joking about the lasers.
HOW COULD YOU NOT HEAR THE NOISE
I ask my tenant the same question.
Thanks, the owners bought this building at Auction...no keys of course, so I spent about 2 hours, burnt out 8 drill bits and finally chiseled off the heads with a numismatic air chisel. Whew.... 11 more machines to go if the keys are different. I am betting, hoping, that they are the same key. I guess if someone wants to get in, you can't keep them out.
Good luck
@breakerbroke23 Hi. We have a pair of these we own ( came with the house) and we've been putting money in them and now they are full and we cant do any more washes. Can we use your method to open up the money slot and continue using the machine as is ? Or when you break the lock the machine will no longer function ? Any Idea ?
the machine will still function. All you need to do is follow the video and drill out the lock, but you must swedge that hole to be larger or your drill will do no good.
Ok Thanks alot will try that if no other options work.
Yup your method worked. Getting the drill bit in was the hardest part. The machine also still works.
Carrying a drill gun with a bit into a laundry mat, not suspicious at all.
I am toying with the idea of buying a coin operated business such as a laundromat or DIY car wash. I would be very grateful if I could get some insight into the business from people who are or were in the business. Thank You
I ran a Car Wash back in the early 80s. Good profits, just keep it clean. Laundromat? very good profit, just keep up on maintenance. AND learn how to service your own units. That is a must.. Good luck
Thanks BB I appreciate the info but I am looking for more detailed information. Are you still running a laundromat? What are the most challenging aspects of the business? Do you lease a store front or own a free standing building? Did you start from scratch or did you buy an existing business? Do you have any employees on site? Are you open 24/7?
I am a retired accountant and I need extra income . I live in the suburbs of a large city. There are a few laundromats in the area but I don't quite understand who their customers are. Because all we have is single family homes and apartment complexes. Most homes have a clothes washer and dryer. If you can't afford to buy one new there tons of them for free on CL. The apartment complexes are relatively young and have their own laundry facility or the connections in the apartment itself.
Thank You
DON"T do it!!! IT'S crap!!!!! NOT worth it!!!!
Thanks 👍 I sure will try to get it done soon.
Thanks, I walked into my laundry room at one of my rentals and saw that someone tried to do this. Need to install cameras or remove the washer and dryer if this happens again.
Lucky this is only thing they tried as when they try to get coins any other way (smashing the whole coin op assembly) it is very much more costly. Been there!
@@breakerbroke23 Not sure why they go through all the trouble just for a few quarters. they can earn more money selling weed or stealing from their own parents.
Where can you get keys for this
ebay
Thank you for this video! I'm in the exact same position (our keys got stolen). We don't want to put in coins any longer since it is a personal machine. Quick question- after drilling out the coin box, would it be possible to NOT install a new coin box and just use the washer as is? Would the coins drop into the empty part (where the box used to be) if we insert coins into the slots and push it in to start as normal?
You need to take off the top cover(keyed) and manually turn the timer that the coin mech uses, I did my own laundry in this machine using this technique for years with no problems.
I lost the key for the top access little plate, do you have a video on how to remove that part?
Yes and no. The lock mechanism on the cabinet is mostly the same so here is a link on that video. czcams.com/video/nnPtkvnoNyY/video.html
Just follow those instructions and you should be fine.
Plz let us know how it turns out. Cheers.
Grinder.
Awesome video..thanks
Thanks buddy, great video
Dude… followed instructions. 1 machine came through. The he second, just has a huge hole in it now and is still locked up!!!!
Mytag Washing machine has Medeco Lock. -- for this case, its not working at all.
I want to know if the machine still works if the coin box is opened like this. I have one of these at my house that my mom wants to use but doesn't want to give it quarters because we lost the key. It's either use what we have or buy a new one. Please tell me.
That would destroy it
Can I use this method to break into any brand coin boxes? My laundry key got stolen as well
+Arunita usually this technique works
what drill bit size did you use?
did you find answer to your question because I bought 2 surplus washers and 2 dryers, and was super cheap because they didn't have the keys. kinda need to get into them now because I can't fit any more quarters in there
To all you haters. There's nothing new about drilling out locks. breakerbroke23 showed everyone how not to get ripped off by locksmiths, that's all!
don't waste your money on destroying the locks, they are so easy to pick, 10 seconds
The coin boxes were jammed full , even if you did happen to get past the security cover you could not have turned the cam.
@@breakerbroke23 I am assuming you turned the lock by means of a screw driver after drilling? As I see the coin boxes it dont matter if full of coins, the 4 locking plates are unhindered by the coins
Hi, Im thinking your bit is for steel. What size of a bit? 1/4 "??? It would have been so much easier if I just made a note of the key code on the key... Live and learn the hard way. :)
I do have to say...."lock only keep honest people out."
Yes this time I wrote the codes down in the owners manuals. 1/4 should work, drill until the bit goes all the way through.
I was hoping for a more lock picking lawyer desk method
They call these "coin Vault" for a reason. Any easier and thugs will steal you blind.
Seems like it would take less time to just pick the lock.
I have some newer machines but the lock system looks like yous. mine says ESD on mine?? what is the part number on yours so i can order it to see if it would work for me if you dont mind
I no longer own the RV Park where these units are. Sorry I can be of no help.
Hi, i can't seem to even get past the screwdriver part going back-and-forth to open up space for my drill bit. Any advice? Thanks
+Sogand Tehrani Use a larger / wider flat blade screwdriver .. I used a fairly large one (#3). Good luck...BB23
what size bit did you use
I drilled straight thru and box still won't open. Any suggestions?
Get in there with the biggest flat head screwdriver you can. You need to turn the cam CCW
Thank you,
So does it fuck the washer or dryer completely...we currently have these same ones in our building and our tenant has just showed me today that you no longer need coins to turn the dryer on...he just pushed it in and hit start...we now have lost these keys when the place was bought so will drilling into the box make make the dryer no longer usable? Coins were getting jammed for ever so ..
No, the coin box is separate from the coin tray. My coin tray jammed up because the coin box was overfilled. Your coin tray/ mech (I forgot the proper term) should be cleaned and lightly oiled every few years or so to function smoothly. IMO.
@@breakerbroke23 So I can drill into the box and it would still work lol
Hello can you send me a message we have a couple questions. Where can we buy the box with the key?
sears
Any parts store for appliances.
We have a Maytag washer and this method hasn't worked. Should we try something different? Please help!!
+BernalesTV It has to work.
If the drill bit pushed through ( went in all the way) then you drilled the lock out. The lock cam may need to be turned to release the coin box. Take the flat blade scred driver, stick in the hole and turn and pull on the box at the same time. if your #3 driver wont fit try a #2.
If the drill bit didnt go through...keep drilling
+breakerbroke23 thanks for your quick reply! I'll give it another try with your tips!
So we are trying to get the coin box off of our dryer and have broken 4 bits inside of the key hole, any suggestions?
Use top quality drill bits and dont push so hard. (use a slower speed as well)
@@breakerbroke23 Unfortunately 3 have broken off inside and we can't get them out
I have used very long and pointed needle nose pliers to get out broken objects. Maybe try something like these to get your broken bit out.. www.homedepot.com/p/KNIPEX-6-in-Long-Nose-Pliers-31-11-160/205333646?MERCH=REC-_-pipsem-_-302552195-_-205333646-_-N
Pays to use 6our own mind excellent
We've recently lost the keys to 2 of our coin op dryers. They have cylinder locks instead of regular key locks. We've gotten past the drilling part but can't seem to get the box to release. Any tips?
so we figured it out. the first one we ended up drilling too much of the lock out which bent the plate in the back that releases the pins. ended up having to dremel the heads off of the corner bolts and then drilling them out to have the heads pop off. since it's a cylinder key there's a slightly smaller hole above a larger hole (like a pear shaped hole). the second dryer we ended up rounding out the top hole to make it large enough to get a bit on the center of the cylinder key slot. started drilling with a bit the side of the inner key circle and literally 2 minutes later the box just popped out. takes patience but better than calling a locksmith wanted to charge us $300+ to get into it and was going to damage the box anyways. good luck!
+Ashley Benner Wow you guys had some kind of fun:)
Thanks for sharing your technique
cylinder keys are easy to pick next time you have one of those type look up tubular lock picks...
Does the top have to be open? I can't find my 7 pin key either...
+Justin Kvols No the top has nothing to do with the coin box. I have another video on how to open the tubular lock, check that out. And thanks for watching.
czcams.com/video/h0q2EvZeISk/video.html
The top is service door.
Hoping you’ll see this
Will a 7/64 bit work
I've drilled mine as my keys lost and it won't come out , it won't break the back it's made a hole but no joy , what have I done wrong it is a green Walt ultra lock is that the same as your machine , I've lost 6 keys and need to empty my machines asap
+Chelsea Deyes Just keep drilling until the bit goes all the way through(you need SHARP bits). Then use a very wide blade standard screwdriver to stick in the hole and turn clockwise, to turn the cam lock, then pull out the coin Box. If its as you say the same as mine, you will get it open with this technique
+breakerbroke23 it's definitely. The same I think. It's not sharp enough I'll let you no I'll take video and send you can it be a different lock on the coin box ..
+Chelsea Deyes the drill bit started to get hot and smokin is this cause it's blunt .
yes, you can dip the bit in a cap full of oil and try again. Also dont drill at the drills fastest speed either. try 1/2 speed. But sharp bits are key.
+breakerbroke23 thank you so much I've managed to do it I didn't give up I nearly did it took 10 seconds and a hard push for my second one . My first I'd done the drilling part just needed the last part your video is great for people like me who lost keys . Now I'm baffled I've got fronts that are esd flat and I can get my drill bit in or nothing gonna need a lock smith I think I've looked every were for advice I don't want to drill the lock if the lock can't be done and it costs me more calling a lock smith out half done can you suggest ,
where do you order the locks from?
something else to consider is if your worried that folks may do this to your vending machines, use a stronger lock(they make medeco, abloy, etc locks to fit these) and well....i hope you have a LOT of drill bits for those locks to do this. Also keep in mind that this also cuts down severely on folks just having a key made and dumping the profits away from you.
You can not just get a Key made, There are no manufacturer names or key code numbers stamped anywhere on these coin boxes. The key code numbers are inside the "locked" Box.
BTW... I have drilled out a Medeco Lock before, I had to get into a Change Machine when I bought my Apartments. Not hard to do.
My thieves took a crow bar and pryed the box out muck quicker
Lol if it takes you more than 3seconds to open that box no Dam drilling
What if it’s drilled out and it still won’t come unlocked
I would go to a bigger blade screwdriver like a #3
@@breakerbroke23 someone tried drilling it out and the hole is prolly the size of a pea now.
Drill the hole out more, you need to get in there and turn the cam. The key is get the biggest flat head in there as you can.
You'll get it
What size drill bit?
If memory serves, 1/4 or 5/16
Had me until he brought out the drill 😂
It’s makes too much noise.
What size. Drill but n type? Thanks
Marcial Mendez I just grabbed some bits I thought would work, think the bit I picked was 5/16
Thanks
This is what I used.
www.matcotools.com/catalog/product/DM21/21-PIECE-HIGH-SPEED-DRILL-BIT-SET/
But any good quality set will work.
we spent 8 hours totally, still not get through. not easy as said here
bigger drill bit and screwdriver
does this work for all kind of machines
I do not know. I have used technique on a few other type of locks. It has worked, Iam lucky I guess
Ok thank you for responding
Understand I only drill out as a last resort, If I cant pick it or keys are lost. Thanks for watching.
Rodney Wright yes
Thank you !!
This isn't always as easy.
In the industry when you have to drill these out, it's usually because someone vandalized them in the first place.
Additionally, the vandals usually break bits off inside the locks and so drilling through a drill bit is pretty shit.
If you drill to fast you can melt that brass and make it hard to unlock make sure to take your time.
For the older style ones like this you can sometimes hammer a flathead into the lock and twist it with a good wrench.
For the newer style medico's though this is exactly what we do.
An alternative is two carbide hole saws, one to saw off the outer cover/dome thing, then another perfectly around the lock itself.
These type of machines should be illegal. Mine ate my money and wont give it back. I can’t find any way to break into it either without destroying it. Fucking stupid design.
I have not had any problems with my setup, they have been in service over a decade.
However I keep mine clean and maintained on a weekly schedule.
agreed completely
I DID THIS DID NOT WORK BURNT UP LIKE 6 DRILL BITS IT WAS ALOT EASY TO HEAT IT UP WITH A TOURCH YOU BUY AT HOMEDEPOT BEND IT BACK AND YOU WILL SEE THE HOLE LOCK CRAB IT WITH A SMALL PAIR OF PLIERS AND TURN IT SNAP YOUR IN I HAD 6 TO DO AFTER 1ST HAD TO CHANGE THE MEDICO LOCKS ARE THE HARDEST I PUT MY NEW LOCKS IN
So you heat the whole lock up and just bend it back and forth?
Asking because we have 2 that we’re drilled and are still stuck
That shit dont work i tried it
+Omar Woodberry You must be doing something wrong or something. I have had a few women PM me that have had success ...knowm say'n
Can’t you just buy the key?
The Code number for the correct key is on a sticker........In the coin box :(
My best advice is next time you open your coin box jot down the code and store it in a safe place, you may need to order a replacement key.
Cheers
EDIT.....
You can buy the keys on ebay
I cant even get pass the screw driver part of bending it
+Omar Woodberry The large tip standard screwdriver is a bit over 1/2' wide.
My Snap on set is quite old i think the driver is a sdd8. but this one will work as well
store.snapon.com/Standard-Soft-Handle-chrome-Screwdriver-Flat-Instinct-153-Soft-Handle-Orange-055--P648879.aspx
Not sayn you need a spendy screwdriver, harbor freight may have somethis of this size.
Rule of thumb.... get the BIGGEST ASS SCREWDRIVER you can find.
And dont forget GOOD quality SHARP bits as well
no way...doesn't work that easy
Why not just buy a replacement key for 4 bucks
The Keys are numbered, the Key number is on a tag inside the coin box.
I have said this 100 times, but. I should have written the Key numbers down inside of the paperwork that came with the appliances. Oh well live and learn
Hahaha lots of trouble and lots of tools and noise for stealing a few dollar coins. Don’t forget that they empty these money boxes daily.
TRUE!!!! The public Wonder Why prices go UP!!! But these people are usually ON WELFARE!!!
The problem we have in our building is that the coin boxes are full, we call the number on the machines, and the people at the washer company want nothing to do with us, claim the machines aren't theirs. So the drill solution looks to be best....cheaper than having those two big washers and dryers hauled off.
Someone stole your video and got a lot of views on it
This video has been re-uploaded (stolen) two times that I know of. Then YT took both of these helpful videos down and threatened to close this channel. I fought whit YT for 6 weeks to finally get it back up. I also re posted this video on another one of my channels just in case YT effs whit me again. YT's AI sucks.
how to steal 101 haha
Abram Ruelas Do you not know how to read descriptions? Maybe if you read it, you wouldn't comment idiotic things 😘
It seems as though you had good intentions, but you effectively showed everyone how to defeat the lock. Most are likely not machine owners. Please pull the video.
This video has helped more people than hurt. If you have an issue, step up your security. OR... dont watch this type of video. Okay SnowFlake
Debbie, don't be a moron. There's nothing new about drilling out locks. breakerbroke23 showed everyone how not to get ripped off by locksmiths, that's all!
@@augenbutter as a locksmith and laundromat owner, not only am i losing business but now have to worry about some asshole breaking into my machines.
Shouldn't you be somewhere baking cookies or something? 🙄
@@garrettfortmann6630 not everyone wants to pay a locksmith ridiculous rates.... Like frank Sinatra said- that's life.
just use the master key
I have some for sale
you charging for your laundry is a joke
Why is it a joke? Should he subsidize the tenants' laundry costs? 😂😂😂
@@claystore $4 per wash/dry is a complete joke. it's gonna cost $50-100 a month to do laundry and i have to go out of my way to now get quarters when it was free for the past 3 years with the previous owner with no issues. greed is ruining this country.
@@ArcYT2 things...
1. The landlord runs a business. We don't know what their costs are. They can charge whatever they want as any business can. If they charge too much, they will loose business. You can choose to patronize or not. You DO have a choice!
2- Where I live (Vancouver, BC), if rent includes free laundry, the landlord can't decide to start charging preexisting tenants for it. This would be considerd breaking a material term of the contract. If they start charging for it, they must also reduce the rent to compensate the tenant. If this has happened to you, you need to contact you housing authority to see what the law in your area says.
Isn't this like a tutorial for thieves? Is this presentation even legal?
I find this outrageous. I will ask my lawyer if such videos are legal.
+Bee Ess FREEDOM BABY Take you commie lib ass and FO
Bee Ess Apparently your free college didn't teach you how to read. Its for people that own these machines and aren't able to get into it. Think before you post 😘
Bee Ess you sound like a bitch
Did you ask your lawyer if this video is legal yet?
what size drill bit did you use?
1/4"