The Hidden Economy Behind NYC Street Vending - Cheddar Explains
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- čas přidán 20. 03. 2018
- Street vendors have been a key part of New York City's history and economy. Yet, the cap on vending permits and government policies have put this important part of New York's culture in jeopardy.
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Super interesting video! I loved how you guys went deeper into the economic side of street food! I'm going to be watching more vids! If you guys ever come to China, I will bring you to eat a ton of delicious food!!
The Food Ranger Trevor, long time fan & big fan here. Bro be careful recommending these type of pages from your successful channel. I came here at your suggestion but look in their comment section already. It’s gonna be a shitstorm of negativity between lefty & righty political loonies here in the USA. Your channel is awesome with zero political leanings. I doubt you & Ting want to even risk having your channel associated with these people. No offense to the Cheddar folks, just looking out for your interests as a huge fan. Just a suggestion James :)
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Everyday the food carts in NYC have to be always clean and sanitatized and keep everything up to health code
Supposed to be. But some vendors don't know what sanitary is
But if they aren’t certified and inspected how can that be assured
@@Redblueboy11 through a beaming light
Yes....treat them like small business who must have an EIN. If not they must use their SSN. This will incentivize citizenship... but the path to citizenship should also be reformed.
Dr. Simple Beauty 300 an ein to someone who is undocumented can not use it for work
I swear, this country can't decide if it wants to be a melting pot or a sealed bag.
Why no love for the legitimate brick and mortar shops that pay thousands in rent and employ more?
brick and mortar shops the food is healthy and clean ....
It's New York. If you want reasonable rent, go somewhere else.
Alfonse Dente how about the stipic tip culture in north America that makes eating out more of a luxury. All because someone who never prepared it and just brought it to your table.
I assume you don't work as a waiter, keep the tips
@@slammerLo525 so is food vendors we are held to higher standards
I remember the first time I went to NYC I thought "Wow, so many food trucks!" It wasn't until the second time dawned on me "Oh, it's a chain restaurant! Cool!"
Shocking. Vendor gets a ticket. Police come back a week later to check if they are out of compliance. Imagine that. The police doing their job.
If you do it legally there are no problems. If you do it illegaly and you get fined, you have no right to complain
Excellent writing and telling of a local problem and yes, the cap is overdue for removal.
Have you ever been to NY? There's plenty of room.
Bryant Patel yea, underground in the tunnels
Raise the cap and stop de-incentivizing small business. They hire, the pay taxes, and they'll follow regulations when they're under them legally. The cap is arbitrary and punitive, without merit in todays economy. Even brick and mortar places would and do create street mobile food vending, but, if they're also already in the cap, they're monopolizing and that's not fair. Brick and mortar do have their established zones, and clientele, unlikely to change, the people outside, they want these vendors and the city is dismissing what the people want. It's similar in my major city, so I'm broadly speaking and know what's good for NYC will be good for other major metros.
The free market means nothing to anybody on either side of the fence these days, they'd rather placate people with social issues that help them rage Twatter feuds with each other. All anybody cares about is looking like a rebel online anymore and economic issues are the lame way to do that. Gender rights and racial politics are the in way. And we all suffer for it.
In regards to a free economy they're should raise the cap but not just stop there, deregulate for all not just some.
Rick Nelson you don’t live in nyc. You’re not an expert on urbanization, food service, or otherwise. Aka you don’t know shit. The rules exist for a reason. Fine to protest the laws and try to enact change. Don’t break the law and complain about getting ticketed. If you wanna run an illegal food cart run it understanding the risks. If you’re here illegally maybe find something under the radar or not be here at all
If they have illegal food truck they don’t have to follow any regulations legal businesses do. Collecting and paying sales tax. Paying withholding taxes. Paying the correct income tax on all cash business. They are not regulated and we are supposed to trust they will do everything right??? Who is going to make them pay what other businesses have to???
Very smart response, thanks for writing this!
NYC is failing in govt/management. They kept the number of taxi medallions capped since they were introduced decades ago and this vid shows they did the same thing with street vendor permits. No changes since 1981? Ridiculous!
I honestly think street food tastes better than brick and mortar restaurants in most cases
Just give them the damn permits and have them pay fees amd taxes legally whats the point of arresting them when you can make more money by regulating them.
We want a city not a jungle of illegal criminals serving us food. Trump say take back America. //like big Bush ..read my lips ... to sadam
Alex P ~ They all have legal immigration status and are seeking their citizenship you brainless piece of shit.
It's when they are cited that the ICE vampires pounce on them as "criminal" and void their legal status.
When you look in the mirror, Alex, do you see the giant turd that the rest of the world sees?
Because I have no doubt that every one of these people contribute more to our society than you ever have or ever will.
NYC streets are overcrowded as it is more venders = less room to walk and park they need to GTFO
@@slammerLo525 you aren't even American! You don't get a say
"who I belief using a fake name most likely." - so you don't have any actual data.
"We want a city not a jungle like you intended." - what does this even mean?
"Go home cook a meal you lazy ass." - some people actually have jobs, and don't have 2 hours to go home and cook and go to work
I got sick after eating at one of these things...never again
Thanks for the tip Trevor @thefoodranger! This was an interesting piece. I hope there’s a follow up on this piece. Maybe a “History of the _____ cart in NYC “ too!
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The health department guy came back to see if you've changed. The goal is to improve food quality and lower public health problems, wich can cause a big economy problem
If you don't want to get in trouble for running an illegal food vendor
*than don't run an illegal food vendor.*
My suspicion is that the currently existing situation isn't such a big problem at all.
It just means that most street vendors have to live with bribing the cops with free food.
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Let's storm Manhattan with a caravan of 5,000 hot dog stands.
Ok ahmed
we need more street vendors!
“Fast and cheap huh?!?” 😂😂😂😂 yeah right!!! EXTREMELY expensive and long lines! 🙄
How you would ever consider a street vending businesses without a permit is beyond me
Magiktcup they need permits idiot
Lol I love how most of the hate comments aren’t from New Yorkers. They’re just like a small business (store) in actual New Yorkers’ opinion, most of them have been at the same place. Food trucks always bring a smile to my faces whenever I’m hungry and in a rush. It’s a good, cheap and affordable lines for EVERYONE (working businessman, students, children, tourists, etc). Plus they bring millions of $$$ for the government, so I don’t really see the problem with food trucks
I think 5000 is a good limit you also need to give business to restaurant owners and if you were illegally running a vending cart you should be fine for it
Why does New York City puts a cap on license for everything? Taxis , food vans...
How could anyone possibly fail to see that street vendors are small businesses? And it didn't sound like anyone was advocating additional street vendors; they simply wants to legitimize the other two thirds of street vendors.
More permits will absolutely increase the number of street vendors, come on. Especially in Manhattan
jaydeeification I'm sure not every street vendor would get a permit even if they could. But I'm also sure some would rather obtain a permit if it were possible.
Becasue they forst need to come with a way to charge them proper taxes and move them to a place where they dont get in the way of people
My guess that it will be resold as it is with permitted 5000 and vendors will only pay the ones who were there first. That is why the whole new system is needed
Let's be honest the tickets are rightfully done. If ur an illegal business don't pay taxes , basically squatting on city property while making profit , 1000 dollars per fine is too small. Legalize the vendors and make it so that anyone that doesn't have a permit a criminal offence after 3 strikes.
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Ny1 illegal foodietrucks
A. This is not economics. Mainly politics.
B. So ur criticizing the fact that there is regulations on food and public streets? What?
Just because they are immigrants doesn't mean it's good.
Who's coming from Trevor's channel?
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What do you think? Is raising the cap a no-brainer or are there downsides?
Cheddar
While I think they ought to privatize the whole mess, in the meantime, I would err on the side of lifting the cap.
So you an illegal immigrant severing food illegally and that's okay? Am I missing something here?
Haha. They're not all illegal immigrants. And if they are then NYC is supposedly a 'sanctuary' city. There are far too many reasons why the local government would refuse to give out these licenses even if they meet all of the health standards
People are outside selling crack, heroine, stealing cars, killing ladies, shooting schools and you care about food vendors? Get a life looser! 🙄✌🏽
The Food Ranger Trevor send me here thank you Trevor
Great Video really enjoyed it, Thank you to Food Ranger
1:18 is that a wire closet shelf being used as a grill surface.
Omg
I think 20k permits would be more reasonable since the city has grown a lot more
Can anybody please tell me where I could get those electronic signs that the street vendor has in their cart? Thanks.
These street food vendors are good hard working people that deserve the same equality as everyone else they deserve their permits 🌍
Good grief thank god you people don't run a country you would run it to the ground
@@lolagonvieve7388 You're talking about Republikkkans, right?
Street foods is cheaper and it tastes better and the variety is greater
Do those tickets go under the owner of the Vendor’s License or do these tickets go under your New York State ID and towards you directly?
Does anybody know the name of this style of food cart
What song is playing in the intro? Please tell! I love it
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I find it really funny. People will frequently will argue that 'regulations strangle competition and the market'.
And with the same breath, will endorse the harassment of food cart operators with something like 'the law is the law, they should just follow the regulations'.
First the cab drivers, now the vending permits... RIP small hard working men
Its Newyork, a global centre. Follow rules.
I don’t understand at all, we’re talking about a group of people are acting illegally while undocumented in a foreign country and everyone’s worried about them getting arrested? If I’m a visitor to another country I make damn sure I follow the local laws and conditions of my visa doesn’t seem like a difficult ask. I understand the plight that faces illegal immigrants in the states but damn at least keep your head down right?
Also how the hell is no one recognising them as businesses, of course they are small businesses.
its not only that, its also theat they probably dont pay any taxes. for their business either. so the problem is even bigger. If you want to see an extreme example of how far this problem is check any google maps of a subway entrance in Mexico
Illegal immigrants such a bull shit term how about their just immigrants like all yall motherfuckers that ain't Native American
Because you Americans are soft. That many illegals warrant the use of national guard.
Wen Hong Chi I recoil at being called American. I’m most certainly not, thanks.
Kent Davis
Lol Cheers
If they don’t have permits then they could be selling mystery meats.
It takes 10 years to get a permit.
I think they should be inspected for being clean and up to cade but they should be allowed to do business.
I think I be besdt to classify them as small businesses but at what cost and additional taxes would they be Forced to pay
Yes at the license however if you are illegal immigrant in the country trying to make up the rules you can’t complain if ice come
We need to lift the restrictions on running all sorts of small businesses, including street vending. We need capitalism!
David Giles, Jr. ohh yes, the good old industrial age where kids worked in factories
The whole of my life being in the city a year after year it's getting worse for the businesses and public. If you intend to drive it's a big No, you want to open business it's a big No, now if you want to live here it's No. In general to come from the boroughs and enjoy life it is the biggest No. I'm not sure to which point they want to bring the whole city life and economy but it's getting unbearable for the last 5 years.
can i drive a vehicle in NYC without a permit/licence? oh, please don't ticket me tomorrow for the same offence if you catch me driving without a licence again, it doesn't make sense......
I am a disabled Veteran looking to start a vending business in NYC. Since Vending licences is geared towards disabled Vets I can get a licence. Anyone open to a partnership LLC? Just need to be a good cook and have a good positive attitude.
This little vendors buy supplies from legal vendors and indirectly pay taxes! You cut down 5k-7k small business and you will see the effect on the economy its a dominoes effect! Make them legal. They pay the fees plus sales taxes and guess what? The economy will grow even more! Small businesses are the engine of the US economy and that’s what makes us great and different from most countries! Entrepreneurs make the difference in this country! Make them legal and let’s all enjoy some good street vending food!
I remember a street vendor by yankee stadium selling old hot dogs with gloves not that it mattered to him because sure enough the was handling the food as well as the money with them and he gave me an attitude when I called him on it, I worked a lot around food and saw some atrocious things that I would not mention to you street food eater's mind you these were things that I saw in restaurants go figure suffice to say I am American descendant of immigrants so I can be on both sides but I choose one over the other
...Bronx New York
So the argument is, "let's forget the law because too many people have started breaking them"?
$0.3 billion per year...DAMN
Was this video sponsored by Bernie? and produced by Michael Moore?
Maybe you guys should do a follow up video on what the licensed street vendors and restaurants think about the illegal street vendors.
If they issue ten thousand more permits there will be another ten thousand illegal vendors who will want them.
Nice perspective ! Food ranger sent me !
Just saying your name is Cheddar but your icon is Emmental (Swiss cheese).
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we got to stop the illegal carts , work with them only 5000 vender license is crazy it should be unlimited , lower the barriers to entry so more pople can street vend legally and enforce it strictly when caught illegally , the city has to crack down on illegal stuff and make it legal so they can boost the enconomy , people will profit regardless why not make it easier and cheaper to start a business like that so they can pay taxes
They limited caps on these and now new York city taxis?....
Being anti ILLEGAL immigration does not mean you are anti-immigration. My fathers entire family immigrated to NY in the 70's legally.
hola people from NYC i´m from Perú
Everyone's talking about the immigrant angle, but what about the fact that New York hasn't changed the number of licenses for decades? On paper, that is woefully irresponsible since New York City's population has grown. They need a relative cap.
It takes upwards to 10 years to get an official vending permit. I got this from another article on NYC vending.
Here from TechAltar.
People judging because they're doing it without a permit or illegally don't understand how the world works. People think just because something is legal that makes it right. Let me guess people selling lemonade are illegal then right?
Lift the cap on permits and tax it all
Do we like more govt intervention or not?
MOST KARTS USED TO BE OWNED BY GREEK IMAGRANTS WHO HAD PERMITS N WHERE US CITIZENS THEY R SLOWLY LEAVING THE BUISNESS
the first time in my years with my mom I
The guy at the end of the clip misses the point just bc you have a permit but here illegally does not make you operating legally. Everyone likes to brush over the fact being here illegally is always ILLEGAL. Stop brushing over this point as a no sequitur.!
How about you follow the laws
Sorry, I cannot stomach politicization of my food porn addiction, moving on.....
Politics has always played a role with our food. Sorry if it offends your bougie sensibilities.
You don't have to worry about getting arrested, if you obey the laws and come here legally in the first place.
many of these people are legal, dumbass
Ian Cook No they're not, dumbass
illegal vendor =/= illegal immigrant
@@IanCookUS First of all that is beyond not true, second that isn't the point.
do you really not understand the difference between illegal residency and operating a business illegally?
Food Ranger sent me!!
So they’re scared of being deported but go out in public working illegally? Makes perfect sense
Well then maybe not sell shit without a permit
Wait...so the federal agency ICE is doing their jobs more efficiently? If one of these 10,000+ illegal vendors is a criminal wanted for a horrible felony (sex assault, rape, murder, etc.). Is it wrong to target them......Im pretty sure if you were the victim you wouldn't think so. Regulate and deport!!
4:30 Cwansequenses
Thanks Food Ranger. Liked the video, the city should update and increase permits, but not for the illegals.
What about the small business owner and immagriant that pays 5000 dollars for rent but these vendors stole their business
I don’t like that they illegally entered the country, but I do like that they are disregarding vending regulations that I disagree with. I guess that makes me inconsistent about which laws I think should be followed. Oh well.
What's ice have to do with legal immigrants?
Oh please🙄... People who break the law, that other people sweat hard for to do right, then arrogantly saying change it, even if they are illegally in that country too, that others also had to work hard for...
Tamales?
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If it’s wrong it’s wrong more people doing it doesn’t make it right
Food Ranger sent me.
What about food safety? Are these illegal food vendors following the safe guidelines?
I'm not from the US, someone explain to me what ICE is?
ICE is a acronym for Immigration & Customs Enforcement.
but seriously now....couldn't you just google it?
Food courts
It would have been nice if you covered any actual economics.
They are not clean no sanitation a lot of rodents in the garages where they park their carts
I came here for a video on economics, not left leaning politics
Thank you!
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I'll never forget on 9/11 I was running down from 44th street along the West Side Highway towards downtown to get closer to the Twin Towers when I noticed 2 city inspectors hustle a street vendor near the Intrepid for his permit and papers and I was thinking, 'guys, don't you see what's going on right now in front of our eyes???? Why do you have to hustle this man for his papers. Run down and try to help or lend a hand.' I was utterly disgusted by their coldness.
mmhh... Maybe they received orders to keep with their normal duties? maybe it was that if they didnt do their job they would have been punished? If they were no capacitated for dealing with an emergency then maybe theres a protocol about not getting int he way of proper departments?
The streets in Manhattan are not that wide, and if too many people rush towards the same place it gets very hard to pass. not to mention that during an emergency if all police of all types rushed to 1 place then theres going to be an asshole that wants to commit crime where there are no agents.
Billy G YOU NEVER FORGOT ON 9/11 .... UMMMM GET OFF THE DRUGS DUDE