To be fair the Durango Hellcat owners are really upset because Dodge claimed it was a single year run (like the Demon) and then decided to make more which caused the values to plummet. I don’t think anyone is really mad they made it again for 2023 (and likely 2024) but if they were upfront about their plans to make more years I don’t think they would have sold half as many DDHCs as they did in 2021. Feels a bit deceptive / bait and switch. lawsuits are happening
@@SamCarLegion you moron lmao they are getting rid of the V8's in the challenger and chargers. Coming from Dodge themselves. Why you spreading fake Information? Or you too scared to reply like most people lol
I just received my Challenger ScatPack Wide body with the Shaker Hood; Hemi Motor in Smoke Show color, this car put’s a smile on my face every time I crank it up,
We just bought a 22 Hellcat WB and for the price difference you can mod the crap out of the hellcat and put it around 850 rwhp for about 15k and still save money.
I personally worked at a Dodge dealership and about 2 months ago the representatives from Dodge came in to have a meeting letting everyone know how it will go and one thing that grabbed my attention was that they is that they said as of Jan 1 2024 it will be completely illegal to build their V8 engines. I didn't believe they were going to go either but after hearing that i am very unsure.
Still better then what ford was advertising saying the 2024 v8 mustang has 500hp 🤣🤣🤣🤣 as a ford person I found it hilarious they think 500hp is worth bragging about when dodge is in 800hp+ zone. Ahh ford if you didn't make us laugh no one else could
Youre wrong. The V8 will continue with some trucks, and possibly two more years of the TRX. The plant is being retooled, and unions are renegotiating their new positions. V8 components arent even being made, and only current stock is being used for the 23 models. If you want to hope, sure...go ahead. We all saw that exact line of text, but factories shutting down and CARB and CAFE certifications being denied also mean these engines will never be on a car again. People supposedly want EVs, even those that have no possible way of charging them living in high rises.
Dodge is moving away from the formula that brought them success. People say that the muscle cars were a small percentage (20%). The innovation they put into these Cars made the rest of their vehicles successful. They need to feel it in their bank accounts. I've bought Dodge exclusively for 12 years now. No more. Selling my Scat WB and buying a GT500. A shame. But I won't be loyal to a brand that doesn't want to be loyal to me. It's been fun, but there are consequences to decisions. Everyone I know who owns Dodge feels exactly the same way. So we'll let all the part timers go get the new 'shiny'. Whether that be EV or Inline 6's. We'll stay with the muscle...wherever it is.
Its not Dodge, or Stellantis.... Its Joe Biden (or whoever tells him what to say and do), the Democrats and anti-oil globalists. If Dodge/Stellantis says anything, the parent company will be blacklisted/boycotted. They won't be able to offer bonds, they won't be able to borrow money or get a line of credit.
Just ordered a Jailbreak last week, Torred, Dual gunmetal stripes, Demonic Red interior, Standard spoiler (I like SRT and Hellcat emblem) No Sunroof, Harmon Kardan sound. I currently drive a Torred 2016 Scat Pack Shaker as my daily driver, 122K miles on it, Fully loaded. BTW love your videos Sam keep it up!
Fair assessment, but the Hellcat V8 is going away in the Challenger and Charger (it will live on in the TRX for 2024). They don't have to go Full-EV. They have already announced 500 hp variants of TT V6 engines. Folks, if you want a last model year Hellcat/Redeye V8 in the Challenger/Charger "2023" is it,. If ANY are sold as 24 models it will be due to late production carry over. Dodge isnt investing all of this marketing money for no reason. They don't struggle to sell Hellcats...at all.
I actually think the L cars will live on for another 3-5 years while they are making the full move to EV. It would make no sense to develop a new car from the ground up using the Hemi and Hellcats for 5 years. But... It will be based on the Hurricane V6 Turbo engines and be refreshed. Newer interiors, grills, tails, lights, ect.
@@michaelbenardo5695 The current 6 cylinder is a V6. The pentastar. I hope they're right and we do get a turboed v6 in the same challenger body for beyond 2023.
Wont they just drop the V8 for their new in-line twin turbo six? They will keep the V8 as a crate motor and use the in-line 6 for production vehicles.....NO?
I certainly think the marketing that this is "the end" has some shenanigans around it. Their wording is so vague. As I understand, it was similar back in the 60s with the convertible. Companies said it was the last year because of impending roll-over regulations that never actually happened.
Guy, they're replacing the v8s with hurricane i6 engines. They don't have all these challengers and chargers in their factories. There is plenty of people still waiting for their 2022 orders. I appreciate your personal opinion but the challenger itself is for sure gone after 2023.
They said they are killing the HEMI, they never said they are killing the V8's. I think they gonna offer a smaller V8 with a turbo setup replacing the Hellcat.
I was a Dodge guy through and through but their “shakedown “ 💸💸💸💸 gimmicks and all out killing of the V8 for a inline 6 …I’ll gladly put my money on a Darkhorse which looks and sounds better anyways 💯
I saw this M4 competition on the 401 get pulled over and it was impounded. Went to check Twitter and the cops said he was 239 km/hr. Really powerful engine !
@@FakeJake5843 I think you right.....Challenger they showed was all electric.....cant imagine their truck lineup is going to be all electric.....well Ford already doing it.....
The segment of the population buying and driving EVs is not the majority, despite what the media portrays... Wouldn't it be funny if the new Dodge Charger EV body style was also offered with a V8 ICE?? 🤭😂
What U think is special bout that yr? I jus got a ‘17 Challenger Cat this yr & only had 7k miles. Was already tinted, I got it straight piped, still have Cats though
These aren't $118k USD. They start at $89k and fully loaded out are around $100k. THe HEMI's are iron block dinosaurs that are awesome but antiquated technology. They will be going V6 turbo and electric. These are legends. I could be wrong but if they have so many left why do you have to wait 8 months to get one built?
But Dodge also announce that they’re going to be retooling the factory to get ready for the Evies and others and that’s the big thing when a car manufacturer gets rid of all the equipment to make the challenger and charger cars and re-tools for the EV cars there’s no coming back from that the amount that it cost to re-till the factory is astronomical once you get rid of all the machines there’s no coming back from that
Pretty comical if you think they have droves of these engines laying around that they can't get rid of. They can't even fill orders without canceling them.
I thought all jailbreaks were 807hp why am I seeing two different jailbreaks one at 717hp and other 807hp? What’s up with that? What’s the difference bigger blower size/diff tune? Or both ?
this guy, please dont spread false rumors to gain viewers. They will be using the hurricane inline 6. This is the last call for old school hemi V8 cars.
@@SamCarLegion you are the only person saying this nonsense. Their will be no more all motor hemi v8 cars period. Dodge would not destroy their customer base to make a quick buck.
This isn't some V8. These are something called" supercharged". Those are two vastly inordinate uncanny variations of akin to six or ten oddly tameful shiny slavish distinct chopped up motor component drive shift shaft motors slapped together to make one. Super charged. It's so insane it's so gutteral. It should akin to a Lamborghini. So the logo. Umm. Nevermind. It" Hellcat logo car, red eye ". It's also a tiresome task I bet. How loud is that at low driving speeds. Hmmm. I bet not as loud as it should be for everyone. I bet it's about who looks in various windy (non winded places) probably as if time stills, or sticks so that high speed is ready in sight. High speed isn't for local roads,.so eye sight is good only to make sure you don't hit something..a highway is different as you can hope almost 53 percent that no slowing or stopping will occur. That car should get Tesla acceleration. Does it? I didn't watch the video
They have no choice anymore, 2024 CAFE standards are going to be nuts as they get ramped up to 50mpg by ‘26. Considering Biden is in office into 2025 at least, along with Bootyjudge who enacted the policy, that kills any chance of repeal until 2026… by which point, it will be too late to revive these cars. Maybe SUVs with high margins will live on and overcome carbon credits, but even Camaro (not even a refresh) and Mustang (only a refresh) have been let to die on the vine due to this. We might have a GT500 limited production for one final year, then that’ll be it. HEMI cars are done, DOA. Even if they started development already, there’s no point in finishing.
That will be great for the buyer, but it’s telling that the Mustang update is much like the New Edge revision: same bones, same guts, a fresh look, and some tweaks. Rather than using the CD6 architecture, the S550 mostly carries on, and this minimizes fixed costs and necessary production run duration. Perhaps because they saw the writing on the wall before CAFE was ever frozen by the SAFE cars rule. Then there’s GM, which has hardly even poked at the Camaro’s setup since ‘16. The paradox of this problem relates to the volume issue you pointed out-EVs are made of scarce inputs-and to equip V8s in large quantities, the EVs will need to be ramped up even faster to compensate. It is a tricky tightrope to walk, and I don’t think that it’s going to be a profitable one for most carmakers in coming years. IIRC Stellantis spent billions on carbon credits last year, up steeply, and for instance it takes 4 Taycan sales to build one GT3 in EU (emissions-wise). A $40-60k Challenger probably won’t have the margins to justify these increasing fees. It will be interesting to see how long S650 sticks around (and if it is joined by new competitors somehow), and I look forward to seeing your impressions. Going to be an improvement on a very rapid car and hopefully will stick around.
@@SamCarLegion But Ford has a lot more MPG friendly cars which puts them in the CAFE’s standards so the get to keep making V8s. And Dodge is keeping the Challenger and the Charger but instead of the Hemi we’ll have an Inline 6 Hurricane
@@DetektiveKevo Ding. That is what most do not realize about Dodge, they do not have any cars like this that sell in volumes like Ford and Chevy. That is also the purpose of the new Hornet. If that can catch on they can put out fun cars with slightly worse MPGs. Some people just do not get it, but yet they have a CZcams channel. Oh the days in which we live.
I have nothing personally agains ice cars but I completely am flummoxed by enthusiasts desire to make themselves deaf with defeated muffling devices despite most people finding loud cars and bikes obnoxious. Like it sounds good as it is, why turn it up so loud that the entire neighborhood has to stop what they are doing while you go by.
V8 will never die....they can do all the EVs But V8 will forever exist with the sound that scares its enemies....I Love the Sound. #V8forLife
Waiting for the Charger "Toretto" Edition with the "Family" trim
😂😂
You, sir, win comment of the year. Lol
To be fair the Durango Hellcat owners are really upset because Dodge claimed it was a single year run (like the Demon) and then decided to make more which caused the values to plummet. I don’t think anyone is really mad they made it again for 2023 (and likely 2024) but if they were upfront about their plans to make more years I don’t think they would have sold half as many DDHCs as they did in 2021. Feels a bit deceptive / bait and switch.
lawsuits are happening
Totally agreed
Lol they were probably expecting people to be happy about this. To each their own ig, cuz obviously imma buy it since I finally saved enough.
@@leobornjolm1615 best of luck man and I hope you can get one at MSRP 🍻
@@S8ER Ty that would be sweet. Love your attitude man hope you have a good one bro 👋🏾.
@@leobornjolm1615 too much toxicity out there. I want everyone to get what they want and enjoy the hell out of it. 🍻
Dodges slogan nowadays could be "that's a lot to remember." 😂
😂😂😂
"I Will Never Retire!" - The V8 Engine and Ric Flair.
I wished they’d continued the Trackhawk 😢
They sold out of this and the new gen grand Cherokee came out so it doesn’t make any sense
At least there's the Durango Hellcat
@@SamCarLegion I miss spoke, I wished they’d made way more Trackhawks than what they made.
@@SamCarLegion you moron lmao they are getting rid of the V8's in the challenger and chargers. Coming from Dodge themselves. Why you spreading fake Information? Or you too scared to reply like most people lol
@@AE86FTS which is still spectacular
I just received my Challenger ScatPack Wide body with the Shaker Hood; Hemi Motor in Smoke Show color, this car put’s a smile on my face every time I crank it up,
That’s all that matters
We just bought a 22 Hellcat WB and for the price difference you can mod the crap out of the hellcat and put it around 850 rwhp for about 15k and still save money.
I personally worked at a Dodge dealership and about 2 months ago the representatives from Dodge came in to have a meeting letting everyone know how it will go and one thing that grabbed my attention was that they is that they said as of Jan 1 2024 it will be completely illegal to build their V8 engines. I didn't believe they were going to go either but after hearing that i am very unsure.
Well then just build a V-8 engines illegally that’s what I would do
Yeah if we all would stop letting the goverment overreach life would be alot better.
They are lying. If mustang can then dodge can.
u can thank biden hes the reason the v8's and all gas powered cars are going away
@Robloxcreator437 cheverlot corvette too!
Cool car that sounds amazing but no way I'd pay $118k for a glorified hellcat/redeye
THese arent $118k
@@LastCallDemon170 they’ll sell for that much at dealers 😊
The cobra in ur pfp starts off at 80k fully optioned up to 120k
@@md-oz8te better car
Still better then what ford was advertising saying the 2024 v8 mustang has 500hp 🤣🤣🤣🤣 as a ford person I found it hilarious they think 500hp is worth bragging about when dodge is in 800hp+ zone. Ahh ford if you didn't make us laugh no one else could
Youre wrong. The V8 will continue with some trucks, and possibly two more years of the TRX.
The plant is being retooled, and unions are renegotiating their new positions. V8 components arent even being made, and only current stock is being used for the 23 models.
If you want to hope, sure...go ahead. We all saw that exact line of text, but factories shutting down and CARB and CAFE certifications being denied also mean these engines will never be on a car again. People supposedly want EVs, even those that have no possible way of charging them living in high rises.
Dodge is moving away from the formula that brought them success. People say that the muscle cars were a small percentage (20%). The innovation they put into these Cars made the rest of their vehicles successful. They need to feel it in their bank accounts. I've bought Dodge exclusively for 12 years now. No more. Selling my Scat WB and buying a GT500. A shame. But I won't be loyal to a brand that doesn't want to be loyal to me. It's been fun, but there are consequences to decisions. Everyone I know who owns Dodge feels exactly the same way. So we'll let all the part timers go get the new 'shiny'. Whether that be EV or Inline 6's.
We'll stay with the muscle...wherever it is.
Its not Dodge, or Stellantis.... Its Joe Biden (or whoever tells him what to say and do), the Democrats and anti-oil globalists. If Dodge/Stellantis says anything, the parent company will be blacklisted/boycotted. They won't be able to offer bonds, they won't be able to borrow money or get a line of credit.
Im chill riding in car from the 2000s and 2010s for the rest of my life
Lmao.
I hope the V8 is here forever but no one thought computers would take off either.
Just ordered a Jailbreak last week, Torred, Dual gunmetal stripes, Demonic Red interior, Standard spoiler (I like SRT and Hellcat emblem) No Sunroof, Harmon Kardan sound.
I currently drive a Torred 2016 Scat Pack Shaker as my daily driver, 122K miles on it, Fully loaded.
BTW love your videos Sam keep it up!
Congratulations
Red on red? Madman!
I have a indigo blue jailbreak I just ordered a Torred red one with red interior and yellow calipers 👍🏽
Fair assessment, but the Hellcat V8 is going away in the Challenger and Charger (it will live on in the TRX for 2024). They don't have to go Full-EV. They have already announced 500 hp variants of TT V6 engines. Folks, if you want a last model year Hellcat/Redeye V8 in the Challenger/Charger "2023" is it,. If ANY are sold as 24 models it will be due to late production carry over. Dodge isnt investing all of this marketing money for no reason. They don't struggle to sell Hellcats...at all.
I actually think the L cars will live on for another 3-5 years while they are making the full move to EV. It would make no sense to develop a new car from the ground up using the Hemi and Hellcats for 5 years. But... It will be based on the Hurricane V6 Turbo engines and be refreshed. Newer interiors, grills, tails, lights, ect.
I thought the Hurricane was an inline 6, not a V6. Did they change it?
@@michaelbenardo5695 it's an I6
@@michaelbenardo5695 The current 6 cylinder is a V6. The pentastar. I hope they're right and we do get a turboed v6 in the same challenger body for beyond 2023.
Wont they just drop the V8 for their new in-line twin turbo six? They will keep the V8 as a crate motor and use the in-line 6 for production vehicles.....NO?
amen, this guy is just spreading rumers.
V8 won’t go anywhere. Just wait and see.
Sam your hair looks like you had your head hanging out the window while you was raisin hell in that jailbreak lol.
😂
I certainly think the marketing that this is "the end" has some shenanigans around it. Their wording is so vague. As I understand, it was similar back in the 60s with the convertible. Companies said it was the last year because of impending roll-over regulations that never actually happened.
Guy, they're replacing the v8s with hurricane i6 engines. They don't have all these challengers and chargers in their factories. There is plenty of people still waiting for their 2022 orders. I appreciate your personal opinion but the challenger itself is for sure gone after 2023.
The reason people are waiting has nothing to do with the engine, it’s the semiconductor issue. They’ve got a lot of V8s.
You miss an opportunity: “ the name is as long, as the body is wide”
I doubt dodge will kill its v8 unless they can make that i6 a powerhouse but even that is a stretch
They said they are killing the HEMI, they never said they are killing the V8's. I think they gonna offer a smaller V8 with a turbo setup replacing the Hellcat.
Probably. I see that happening, smaller V8 and lighter cars
No it's going to be a turbo inline 6
Or they put a electric on the supercharger, like the black ghost.. maybe you get mpg with it as well as more boost.
I agree
What do you think their V8 is? A HEMI! LMFAO
The only 2 options i care about is three pedals on the floor and a stick shift. If it hasn't got those, i don't want it.
To much Revenue in the market for v8 performance I think.
Bruh you talking out the side of your neck, the Hemi engines are done. Unless you start remaking them your self 🤦🏽♂️
I wouldn’t be so sure
We can’t afford it anyway!
I got my redeye last December brand new fully loaded minus sun roof for 87k otd
any tips on getting a deal like that? were they just trying to get rid of it ?
@@skinnyphx honestly not now In This market now my local dealership we’re they didn’t do mark ups now they started doin it
unfortunately
You’re right 807hp, but it’s not 797 torque it’s 717 torque
I was a Dodge guy through and through but their “shakedown “ 💸💸💸💸 gimmicks and all out killing of the V8 for a inline 6 …I’ll gladly put my money on a Darkhorse which looks and sounds better anyways 💯
These just don't do anything for me. The design is old, the interior is cheap; just seems like a one trick pony.
Disagree. Drives so nice. So smooth. Nice materials inside (2015 and newer)
I agree with you one hundred percent!! It’s just common sense.
I saw this M4 competition on the 401 get pulled over and it was impounded. Went to check Twitter and the cops said he was 239 km/hr. Really powerful engine !
Car sounds good - that screen looks bigger than mine I'm wondering if you're able to option in Uconnect 5 on the jailbreaks
8/19/24 Dodge is getting rid of the V8's. Shows what this guy knows. Buy now if you want one you can get a DEAL on them.
Last year before they shift to Hybrid.....they are bringing out entire SRT line up for 2023....going out with a bang!
I don’t think it will be hybrid
@@SamCarLegion didnt you see the unveiling of 2024 models? they going full hybrid
@@cj41079 nah their gonna be all electric not hybrid. No gas burning at all
@@FakeJake5843 I think you right.....Challenger they showed was all electric.....cant imagine their truck lineup is going to be all electric.....well Ford already doing it.....
@@cj41079 that was fully EV. They have always offered 6 cylinders, they will offer V8s. Just wait and see
If synthetic fuels work out. Then the dodge v8s may arise again.
"Dodge, the brotherhood of muscle"
Sam you are smarter than most !!!
Thank you!
Thank you check out my channel? People are sleeping on the Lexus sc430
The goal is get you out of your car!
I hope this channel uploads a race between Challenger Red Eye and Mustang G500❤
Dodge challenger, brought to you by breaking down and replacing the engine and transmission before 10k miles
Really?
@@SamCarLegion no I never seen hellcat owners complain or had problems
lol ya'll keep crying over that because it never happens
@@yoboytamer3348 That's because they crash or get their car stolen before 10k miles...
These cars are sweet !
I’ve watched this video so many times… the views counter are all mine!!!💪🏼😎
The segment of the population buying and driving EVs is not the majority, despite what the media portrays... Wouldn't it be funny if the new Dodge Charger EV body style was also offered with a V8 ICE?? 🤭😂
Not even close to 3%
I still wanna get the 2017 hellcat I don't care for the new ones
What U think is special bout that yr? I jus got a ‘17 Challenger Cat this yr & only had 7k miles. Was already tinted, I got it straight piped, still have Cats though
These aren't $118k USD. They start at $89k and fully loaded out are around $100k. THe HEMI's are iron block dinosaurs that are awesome but antiquated technology. They will be going V6 turbo and electric. These are legends. I could be wrong but if they have so many left why do you have to wait 8 months to get one built?
$120,000 Challenger. 🤣 🤣 🤣
I'm not sure I can take your words for granted, those Europeans really want to cut the party short.
I LOVE DODGE BRAND!!! I LOVE THE DODGE CHALLENGER HELLCAT REDEYE!!!
DODGE COMING WITH THE INLINE 6
I wish they’d still make the demon
This is good. Hope the prices go down although I might want a mustang instead 😅
Me too 😂
118k+ USD for a Dodge 🤦♂
Ikr 🙄
RACE THE GT500 but ROLL RACE AND MAKE SURE IT GRIPS
Uhhh
I will not now or ever buy an EV.
What music is playing in the beginning of your video?
I'm actually surprised how many hellcats I see daily. I have a scat pack. There's obviously a good market for them.
These dodges are nothing special anymore. They are the new 350z.
Listen jailbreak is God simple end of story mine coming soon
v8's arent going anywere yet the car is cancelled this is the last year of the car
But Dodge also announce that they’re going to be retooling the factory to get ready for the Evies and others and that’s the big thing when a car manufacturer gets rid of all the equipment to make the challenger and charger cars and re-tools for the EV cars there’s no coming back from that the amount that it cost to re-till the factory is astronomical once you get rid of all the machines there’s no coming back from that
They will need to when nobody buys EVs
Would be a great match up with my ZL1 🙌🙏
Dodge doesn’t allow drag races
@@SamCarLegion bruh 😭 since when did dodge not allow drag races
@@Nicktheguy24 i know right? They sell drag tires 😂
@@SamCarLegion and have promoted drag racing before 😂
They will be making new V8s again at some point, unless going "EV" sinks the company, which is highly possible.
I hope what Your saying is the truth🙏🏾
Pretty comical if you think they have droves of these engines laying around that they can't get rid of. They can't even fill orders without canceling them.
Orders cancelled have nothing to do with engines my friend, it’s all about semiconductors. They don’t suffer from engine supply is semiconductors.
30k car selling for 3x as much due to inflation due to gold not backing our dollar
So dodge will continue the v8 after 2024 ?
I thought all jailbreaks were 807hp why am I seeing two different jailbreaks one at 717hp and other 807hp? What’s up with that? What’s the difference bigger blower size/diff tune? Or both ?
Jailbreak is 807, regular hellcat is 717
@@Dankmemeslover69 that’s what I thought but the new 2023 calls all them jailbreak so it was a little confusing
Im getting the 2022 HellCat because the 2023 dodges not gonna have hemi engine no more
LOL, OK. Are you sure?
They will, final year apparently
this guy, please dont spread false rumors to gain viewers. They will be using the hurricane inline 6. This is the last call for old school hemi V8 cars.
You did see the email didn’t you?
@@SamCarLegion you are the only person saying this nonsense. Their will be no more all motor hemi v8 cars period. Dodge would not destroy their customer base to make a quick buck.
@@taylorbittner2465 I will repeat this again, you did see the email 📧 did you?
@@SamCarLegion show us the email then
@@taylorbittner2465 you see this is the problem. You don’t pay attention. The email was in the video.
"Can't handle it on normal road" ha speak for yourself
I think the hemi is gone. But not the v8.
Another Slam Dunk Video Keep up The Great Work
Thank you!
This isn't some V8. These are something called" supercharged". Those are two vastly inordinate uncanny variations of akin to six or ten oddly tameful shiny slavish distinct chopped up motor component drive shift shaft motors slapped together to make one. Super charged. It's so insane it's so gutteral. It should akin to a Lamborghini. So the logo. Umm. Nevermind. It" Hellcat logo car, red eye ".
It's also a tiresome task I bet. How loud is that at low driving speeds. Hmmm. I bet not as loud as it should be for everyone. I bet it's about who looks in various windy (non winded places) probably as if time stills, or sticks so that high speed is ready in sight. High speed isn't for local roads,.so eye sight is good only to make sure you don't hit something..a highway is different as you can hope almost 53 percent that no slowing or stopping will occur.
That car should get Tesla acceleration. Does it?
I didn't watch the video
No right hand side steering 😢
Wanna know which is better, the jailbreak or the superstock
Superstock for drag racing, jailbreak for daily
My car guy just sold one those to,there’s not to many them,and it’s gonna be like 110k
Forget EV
Anyone know the part number of the side stripe
They have no choice anymore, 2024 CAFE standards are going to be nuts as they get ramped up to 50mpg by ‘26. Considering Biden is in office into 2025 at least, along with Bootyjudge who enacted the policy, that kills any chance of repeal until 2026… by which point, it will be too late to revive these cars. Maybe SUVs with high margins will live on and overcome carbon credits, but even Camaro (not even a refresh) and Mustang (only a refresh) have been let to die on the vine due to this. We might have a GT500 limited production for one final year, then that’ll be it.
HEMI cars are done, DOA. Even if they started development already, there’s no point in finishing.
The new Mustang is a V8
That will be great for the buyer, but it’s telling that the Mustang update is much like the New Edge revision: same bones, same guts, a fresh look, and some tweaks. Rather than using the CD6 architecture, the S550 mostly carries on, and this minimizes fixed costs and necessary production run duration. Perhaps because they saw the writing on the wall before CAFE was ever frozen by the SAFE cars rule. Then there’s GM, which has hardly even poked at the Camaro’s setup since ‘16. The paradox of this problem relates to the volume issue you pointed out-EVs are made of scarce inputs-and to equip V8s in large quantities, the EVs will need to be ramped up even faster to compensate. It is a tricky tightrope to walk, and I don’t think that it’s going to be a profitable one for most carmakers in coming years. IIRC Stellantis spent billions on carbon credits last year, up steeply, and for instance it takes 4 Taycan sales to build one GT3 in EU (emissions-wise). A $40-60k Challenger probably won’t have the margins to justify these increasing fees. It will be interesting to see how long S650 sticks around (and if it is joined by new competitors somehow), and I look forward to seeing your impressions. Going to be an improvement on a very rapid car and hopefully will stick around.
@@SamCarLegion But Ford has a lot more MPG friendly cars which puts them in the CAFE’s standards so the get to keep making V8s. And Dodge is keeping the Challenger and the Charger but instead of the Hemi we’ll have an Inline 6 Hurricane
@@DetektiveKevo Ding. That is what most do not realize about Dodge, they do not have any cars like this that sell in volumes like Ford and Chevy. That is also the purpose of the new Hornet. If that can catch on they can put out fun cars with slightly worse MPGs. Some people just do not get it, but yet they have a CZcams channel. Oh the days in which we live.
It's cool but my God is that expensive
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It's the same car what different trims And you guys will still buy it Nothing new under the sun
and again a another old crap car from Dodge for over $ 100k, 🤣
Why would you even watch this video about a dodge if going be negative. People like you need help
@@richardmccay7943 Sorry 😓
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Just say Dodge Challenger SRT JailBreak
You are misnaming the car
Hell yeah 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💯💯💯💯
Overrated, slow, heavy, and terrible handling, and outdated looks.
BUM!!!!
@@SRTHEMI sound mad asl we both know i'm right. same car since 2012/2008
When gas hits 5 bucks a gallon they will die
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Imagine spending 120k on a car and having a teenager steal it in 40 seconds
I work at dodge and after 23 they’re done
I have nothing personally agains ice cars but I completely am flummoxed by enthusiasts desire to make themselves deaf with defeated muffling devices despite most people finding loud cars and bikes obnoxious. Like it sounds good as it is, why turn it up so loud that the entire neighborhood has to stop what they are doing while you go by.
It’s the noise version of camping in the passing lane prove me wrong.
There is no need for that silly noise
Evs are a joke