I Finally Bought A Trangia Burner lets See How It Compares ToTthe Pathfinder Stove
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2020
- I finally bought a Trangia burner after a TON of comments telling me I needed one. Let's compare it to the Pathfinder Alcohol Stove.
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You need to cheek out the M40 canteen kit. Old school vr the new pathfinder
I have an old canteen from the Vietnam War but I don't know if I want to actually use it. It has a lot of sentimental value to my son. It was his grandpa on his mom's side.
Can't beat the old chool
Great review bro.
Thank You so much for watching. I truly appreciate the Support.
you need to lubricate the o-rings on all the stoves...they dry out and shrink. If you lubricate them (veggie or olive oil...something that's food safe is what I like.) they don't shrink.
I know I'm a year late but the knockoff is an esbit burner solo stove has one that's identical to the knockoff as well
The Esbit is a nice little burner.
Have had my Trangia 4 years now, Never an issue ! Made a handle for the simmer ring from a paper clip. ATB T God Bless
I don't know why they don't come with a handle. After all this time you would think they would at least make it an option.
I never understood why people like these stove so much but now after watching your video its understandable. Cheap, light weight, fast, pretty fuel efficient. Yup makes sense
They are nice to have. The fuel is really inexpensive as well. I use Heet in the yellow bottle and this time of year it is under a dollar for a 16oz bottle. Plus they work all year long. It's hard to find a canister stove that works in the Minnesota winter.
take two on tour :-) Pathfinder for heating, and trangia or esbit for cooking :-) Esbit works nearly like a Trangia and has this handle, like the others... enjoy beeing outside, thx for your good video!!!!
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I'm glad you enjoyed the video. They are small enough I could bring all 3.
Cool video bro , the comparison answers a lot of questions for me .
I'm really glad I could help.
What would happen if you modified the holes in the Pathfinder, (enlarged them)? Would it burn hotter?
It could burn hotter but you would also burn through your fuel much faster. Also, the bigger holes could make it harder to properly bloom.
Best review you've done.
Thank You I'm really glad you enjoyed the video.
The advantage of a stove being able to hold a lot of fuel is you can cook beans on one filling.
I like being able to only carry one thing as well. I don't like having fuel in two separate things. The stove holds fuel and then a separate bottle for extra fuel.
Pathfinder Stove seems the best option to cook real food as rice and fry things, where need a lower fire, Trangia use a lot of alcohool but is good to boil water. A thing nobody talk about is, you can´t use high flames (Trangia) with stainless steel pans to cook food, or will have burned/carbonized food on the pan, and in a camping it for sure will to be a problem to clean.
Very true! Thank You so much for watching. I truly appreciate the Support.
My Trangia has served me well for several years. Can't see investing in a Pathfinder. Did you mention the price? Great detailed review as always. Thanks Kory.
I try not to mention the price. The price changes so much over time that I'm usually always wrong after a few months. It either goes up or down depending on sales and how well it's selling. Plus it forces people to do some of their own research making sure they are getting what they want and not just what I like.
@@newageselfreliance I would mention the price, it has a lot to do with comparing 2 or more products and just put a disclaimer when ya do "at the time I filmed this video"
great video. Nice editing too. Personally I would pic the Trangia for the compact light weight size and quicker boil time. As a Backpacker boil time and compact size counts the most. In an emergency a faster boil time is also important. It is nice that the pathfinder stove comes with the pot stand, but its size and weight and its slow boil time wouldn't make the cut for my kit. Right now I prefer canister stoves with a 3 minute boil time of 2 cups of water.
Weight does add up. The BRS style canister stove is my new favorite right now as well. They are so small and work so well it's hard packing anything else.
It is easier to measure the fuel consumption by weighing the burners empty, filled and after the cooking with a decent scale. Does not matter how much fuel is in the wicks then. The Trangia does very well, about 0.4oz for boiling 2 cups of water from room temperature at sea level. That is why people like it. It is one of the fastest to boil, one of the best in fuel consumption and even cheaper than many knock-offs or different burner types. All that at an 'ok' weight. Some burner can do better than the Trangia in some aspects, but I have jet to see one that beats it in all of them. And it is only ~15€ on the official Trangia website, making it cheaper than many Chinese options on Amazon etc. If you have no specific need for ultralight weight or something like that, you can probably be happy for decades with the cheap option without really missing out. Where else can you get that? :D Loved the comparison, great video! 🙂
That would have been a better way of doing it. For me, I don't really mind the extra time it takes to boil water. I much rather have a stove that uses less fuel to achieve the boil than less time. I also don't like carrying extra fuel bottles that could leak or spill. There are definite trade-offs between every system. I'm really glad you enjoyed the video.
The only alcohol stove i own is a vargo one. It works pretty good and it fits in my vargo hexagon stove so i can use that as a wind shield. Hope you guys are well and had a great 4th.
We had a really good Independence Day. I hope you enjoyed your weekend as well.
i have made and used many alcohol stoves over the years. i have a knock off trangia that works well but I prefer the simple penny stove
The only reason I don't use my home made stoves anymore is because I can't store fuel in them. I don't like waiting for them to run out of fuel and I don't like spilling all over everything trying to pour the fuel back into the container. It is way easier just putting the lid back on and being done with it.
@@newageselfreliance very good point.
Dude slide the snuffer on the trangia if you know what i mean, keep hold of it thumb and index finger and slide it over closely as it touches it,,, this won't burn you and puts it out nicely,, or turn the lid upside down and tap it on top of the well 👍
Turning the lid upside down is a good idea with the Pathfinder Snuffer. I will have to test that out.
Great vid.Informative.I have no exp achl stoves,so thank u.I have been back & forth weather to buy one. Think I 'll get Pathfinder.U brought up good pts other uses. Do
think small bottle stove would work with the other
stoves for wire replacement.Not back packing.Keep up great work.G.B.
The pot stand that comes with the Pathfinder stove only works on the Pathfinder stove. It does not work with others. I haven't really found a better pot stand for the smaller stoves yet. The Pathfinder wood burning stove can be used but it takes a long time to transfer heat to the pot. Trangia makes a full stove system that I hear a lot of good things about but its kinda big and super expensive. amzn.to/2Z5hHUR
Thank you very much.Have
great day.
Just had a thought.You could use one of small grill grates from Pathfinder
rigged over ur stove,rocks,tent stakes ect.Very light weight.G.l
That would work. The problem I have with using tent stakes is they are usually being used to hold down my tent. Rocks aren't always an option either. There might not be rocks available or finding rocks even sizes could be a pain as well. That is why I like the Pathfinder alcohol stove. The stand that comes with it will work in any environment regardless of what is available to me.
One problem I see with the Pathfinder is due to the size it can't heat up to achieve a full bloom. Cold weather use I see that would be a real problem.
What is the benefit of a full bloom? Even without a full bloom there is still heat rising out of the center of the burner.
The advantage of a full bloom on a day let's say a 10°f it would take for ever to get a boil. Alcohol stoves are known to be problematic in cold weather.
In my personal experience, Alcohol Burners work better than most other stoves in cold weather.
Nice review. I would like to hear your POV on the Kojin ultra lite stove. My experience is you also want a wind shield and good pot stand. Boiling and getting it done is important and its always windy when I’m outside.
What do you use as a pot stand? I've been looking for something more durable than chicken wire but still lightweight. I'm always worried the chicken wire is going to get smashed in my pack and break.
Wolf Pack Woodcraft, I got the redcamp stove on amazon and it came with a nice stand and bag. I need the wind shield and I’m interested in ultra lite stuff now. Dixie made a good point, “not much difference between a prepper and a thru hiker”. She could teach the Path Finders a thing or two. Dan Becker has a great ultra lite load out video too.
I have watched a lot of Homemade Wanderlust over the years. Dixie always has some really good points. Darwin on the Trail has a lot of really good knowledge as well. I try to learn from all different kinds of people so I can get the best of everything,. I don't ever want to limit my options because of tunnel vision and only sticking with one way of thinking.
Mine , I got Trangia to boil 400ml water in 4 mins with my setup. There would be more differences when comparing in a low temperature and strong wind environment. The low heat or slow one will suffer more.
Why is boil time so important? People always ask me about which cups have a better boil time which stove has a better boil time. What is it about boil time that makes it such a sawed after stat? For me, I care more about the fuel used, how much it can carry vs how long before it needs to be refilled, how light and compact it is. I just feel there are more important things that should be looked at than boil time.
@@newageselfreliance My first DIY alcohol stove boils 300ml water in 20 mins. I don’t use it because I can’t wait 20 mins more for an “instant” noodle. I would have finished my meal already with trangia stove in 20mins. Sometimes I cook rice, most people said it takes 15 mins, if I use a slow one ,it probably takes 30-45 mins. I am not going to just eat rice for a meal. By the time I get my dishes ready, probably the rice will be cold. How about a drink after meal? Another 20 mins? I am not going to wait an hour and half for sometime that could have done in 30 mins. I also value weight and size, but carry a vargo alcohol fuel(29g) is nothing to me. There is a lot small size containers in market, since the trangia can takes some alcohol. I fill the trangia full , I can use it for whole day. (Depends on the meal)I don’t think filling a alcohol stove once per day is a problem to me .
That makes sense. I didn't think about the super long boil times. I was thinking more on the lines of 4min instead of 5min. When you get into the 15-20min stoves you are correct it definitely does add up and make cooking more of a chore than an enjoyable meal. Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions.
I wonder if you added more Holes to the Pathfinder if it would increase heat and speed some, also if you braised all the Original pathfinder holes and drill the trangia pattern and size holes if it could be as fast ? ... great review !
I'm not sure. I think the size of the burner is also a big part of the flame size. It takes more fuel to fill the sides of the Pathfinder than the Trangia or other burners.
May try it on mine. Picked it up for $9 anyway. I think it’s more because the size. An what it’s made of it takes more overtime for it to heat the fuel in it to gasify it to really get going because the size maybe
Like your videos and enjoyed this one. You may want to look at weighing the stoves instead of pouring the fuel out and measuring it. I've got a Redfield? version of Trangia (cause I like the simmer ring having a handle too lol) but they have internal wicks that will hold some fuel. How much fuel i don't know.
The only reason I poured the fuel out is so I could see how much I still had for a backup fire starter. What is stored in the stove itself doesn't help me any when it comes to using it for anything other than cooking or boiling water. I wanted to see how much was left for other things. I don't understand why the Trangia doesn't have a handle on its simmer ring. It makes it so much easier to use, not just for snuffing out the flame but also gives you some leverage to adjust the simmer portion as well.
@@newageselfreliance somewhere I saw that the handles from a paper or binder clip fits. But yeah you'd think the Trangia would have one since it seems to have a place for it.
Yo I subscribed to you from vidIQ when they made the video :)
Can you link to that video. I forgot to save it and haven't been able to find it again.
Wolf Pack Woodcraft I’ll try to find it
Wolf Pack Woodcraft yep here czcams.com/video/KDxxTCEPBCc/video.html
Thank You I really appreciate your help.
Good video. I like that you included a chinese no name copy. The only thing I think you missed was price, which puts my choice with the no name. It did as good as or better than the trangia for most tests you did.
The no-name also left the bottom of my nesting cup a lot cleaner than the Trangia. I didn't mention it because I don't know if it was because of the stove itself or the higher pot stand. I'm guessing the higher pot stand but then again I don't know why the fuel that came out of the no-name was dark brown where the others were still clear?
I generally use the Esbit knock off and it works much like the one you tested. The handle on the simmer ring IS essential. There are a bunch of 3rd party stands that are lightweight and strong. Mine has 3 pieces of SS sheet metal that tab-slot together. You save a lot of fuel using a windscreen that fits closely around the pot, and a little quicker boil time. Heavy aluminum foil cut from a cheap turkey broiler pan works well with 2 paperclips to hold it round. I put the extra fuel in a small nalgene bottle. This has worked great for about the last 5 years in mountains, hot, cold and wind.
I don't understand why the Trangia doesn't have a handle on its simmer ring. It makes it so much easier to use, not just for snuffing out the flame but also gives you some leverage to adjust the simmer portion as well. I do have a windscreen from Ohuhu that I use sometimes but I'm actually testing out a new cook system with plastic lids. There is a warning label on each lid that says not to use a windscreen because it could melt the lids. So depending on what people have they may or may not be able to use the windscreen to help heat up their pots.
Time to replace your O rings. Pathfinder and Trangia sell them
Once they start leaking I will change them out. I don't use them enough to change them out right now.
Great video!
For your set of requirements, as stated at 10:45 the pathfinder is indeed the right tool!
I use the toaks siphon alcohol stove. My stove needs to be small, light and simple and fit into my UL cook kit.
I also don't ever carry fuel in a stove (lack of trust) , that's why the toaks is ok for me I also prefer to light a fire for cooking (as apposed to quick water heating). Emergency heat and emergency fire starter are also on my requirements list.
Love the video, got me to think why I prefer a different stove => different requirements!
What do you use as a pot stand? I've been looking for something more durable than the chicken wire but still lightweight. I'm always scared the chicken wire is gonna get smashed in my pack and break.
Wolf Pack Woodcraft My toaks came with a pot stand that looks a lot like chicken wire, but thicker (see the toaks web-site, looks like it's sold separate now).
That stand just fits around my coffee cup ( I bought a lixada titanium pot, cup, each with lid, and spoon set for ca €50 on amazon: www.amazon.de/gp/product/B07GXCKDH8/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1) .
A very light, but not cheap, cook set for one person.
I have a Trangia stove I bought several years ago. Sorry to say I still haven't used it yet. I still also need some sort of pot support for it. After I had bought it, I seen a lot of videos on CZcams where they said that alcohol stoves do not perform well in cold temperatures. I was surprised to hear that, because I've heard that white gas performs the best in winter conditions so I thought the alcohol would perform good too. Was very disappointed to hear that. I mainly bought the Trangia because it was so small and light. Have you ever used your Pathfinder in the winter? and did it work for you? Hope you , Caroline and family had a good Christmas. Hopefully the new year will be better for all of us. Thanks for going through the long boring process of testing all those stoves, appreciate the info. Take care 👍
Alcohol works really well in the winter especially if you use the Yellow Heet ( amzn.to/380fkqM ) Don't buy it on Amazon you can usually get a four pack at Wal-Mart for much cheaper. The trick is, you have to keep the Alcohol or Heet warm. You can't store it in the burner. You have to keep it in a separate bottle that can be put into an inside pocket. As long as it is somewhat warm it will light and work exactly the same as it does in the rest of the year.
@@newageselfreliance Good to know Kory, thank you! I did buy some Heet in the yellow bottle after I got my Trangia. Didn't know about having to keep the fuel warm and not storing it in the stove. Appreciate the info. 👍🔥🏕
3 seasons you can store the fuel in the stove but in winter it doesn't work as well. If you can keep the stove and the fuel warm in the winter it will work even better yet. However, once you light the fuel the stove will warm up real quick making it not as important to keep the stove itself in your pocket. I'm glad I could help.
@@newageselfreliance Thanks 😊
Oh boy, here come all the triggered Trangia lovers in the comment section... I've got a similar stove from Redcamp. It also has an improved jet design with an overall longer burning time, a handle on the simmer cap, a pot stand, and for all that comes at a better price than the version from many other brands. It is of great quality, so it was a no brainer for me. I care about products, not brands. If you already have a similar stove such as the Pathfinder, no need to switch. It's just another alcohol stove.
A lot of people told me had to get a Trangia stove and to be honest I really don't understand what all the hype is about. It is a great stove and it does what it's supposed to do but so do all the other stoves as well.
@@newageselfreliance It's beyond me as well to be honest... for whatever reason, there are people out there who will claim that this particular stove is the best alcohol stove, or even generally the best stove ever period. In reality, there is no such thing. As of today, there are probably hundreds of stoves out there, they all have their pros and cons. I guess it's like arguing with someone about the technical specs of smartphones, and they'll tell you that their iPhone is the best phone ever because it's the "original" and has a bitten apple on the back...