"CANTONA, HENRY...?"👀 - Darren Bent & Andy Goldstein DEBATE Their Premier League Mount Rushmore!😬
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2024
- After Ashley Cole is announced in the Premier League Hall of Fame, Darren Bent & Andy Goldstein debate their Premier League Mount Rushmore.
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One of the best left backs the prem has ever seen is Dennis Irwin
Only real football fans know this 👏🏼👏🏼
Great character in the dressing room
Great to room with ,total package
Dennis Erwin all day long
Dennis Irwin is the second best after Ashley Cole.
Honestly 1v1 only Ronaldinho managed to beat Ashley Cole, even C.Ronaldo as a winger couldn't beat him.
Ashley Cole as best in the world is a perfect example of us English being obsessed with pl we forget the real greats. Like for me, Gerrard was one of my favourite growing up as a Liverpool fan but I still remember the likes of zidane who was even better, but we talk of it as Gerrard, keane, Scholes etc
Correction Daren Bent. Bruce Grobbellaar was the first african born player to play in England, for liverpool, 1981. Born in Durban, South Africa and raised in Zimbabwe
Exactly!
CORRECTION: Darrent Bent is correct. Peter Ndlovu was the first African born player to play in the PREMIER LEAGUE. If we are talking about English football overall, then Bruce Grobbelaar is also wrong because there were other African players in English football before him, like Danie Le Roux, and Derek Smethurst.
Bruce played for 2 clubs in the Premier League - Liverpool & Southampton
Arthur Wharton just about pips him….
To be sincere and accommodate all position... Henry, Roy Keane, John Terry & Cech
That's not how you do it, it's not a best 11
Keane 😂
best captain in the leagues history@@tevildo45
@@tevildo45 You must be either a troll or a kid. If you know your football, you’ll know who Roy Keane is. If you’re a kid, I can understand that you know only today’s players. It’s fine, no worries.
Goldstein proves yet again how utterly clueless he is...
That season where Luis Suarez scored 31 goals was the best season ive ever seen from a striker
Haaland?
@@123certi8Haaland was given alot of the goals.. Saurez and Henry had individual brilliance that a Haaland can't match.. it's why Mbappe is clear of Haaland.. now Haaland is still magic and the best poacher in world football
Since Ryan Giggs's off-the-pitch matters, everyone just ignores him now. He's still not been inducted into the Premier League Hall of Fame. I get that he's quite clearly not a very nice person and many people will say that there have even been more gifted players, but he still has 13 Premier League titles and has the third most appearances in the competition, all with one club. He's also scored over 100 goals in the competition.
He is Welsh and Wales had a week national team when he played !!! Cantona , Giggs, Irwin , are the best players for Man Utd . !!
Wales had Rush, Giggs and Hughes - at the same time.
It shows how good Gareth Bale was, because with a weaker side, he took his nation to a Euro Semi Final! Also for a nation of 3 million to make 3 major tournaments and get out of the group stage twice, in a decade is a great achievement.
Jurgan Klinsman first superstar in the league from abroad
The thought nobody played with a defensive midfield before makelele tells you all you need to know about Goldsteins ball knowledge
Well he's technically correct. PL teams before Mourinho rocked up played 4-4-2 where one of the midfielders would sit and the other would attack. And visa versa.
Makelele would be the only player to sit and not venture forward
You must be forgetting Roy Keane… knowledge
In the last years of his United career
@@stevenhickman1388 yep. The last 2 years
@@3stripes77 it was before Makele signed for Chelsea. From 2002 onwards after his second bad knee injury
Henry, Cantona, Shearer, and Keane.
Denis Irwin is the best overall full back in Premier League history. The lack of recognition he gets is criminal. I'd have him in my all time Premier League team any day
Cole was better
Irwin right back cole left simple as that, irwin was right footed
Cantona was the first superstar of the premier league
Yes benty you know your stuffs
i feel like the definition of why you pick them is very important, because i would include Rooney, and players like schmeichel as they are iconic, and define eras and positions
This is all banter. “ there really wasn’t a 10 role “ before bergkamp is just laughable
Cantona…..
@@stevenhickman1388 I get the context is premier league , I just get chuffed with talksport because folks act like decent football didnt start til 1992
Yes siirr!!!! Peter Ndlovhu...He's our GOAT down here in Zimbabwe
Henry, Makelele, Keane & Gascoigne.
Other names to mention Bergkamp, Le Tissier, Cech, Ronaldo, Ferdinand, Rooney, Vieira, Lampard, Jay Jay Okocha, Suarez
Peter Ndlovu was my favourite player as a kid in Zimbabwe, absolute inspiration
Coventry City?
Most hall of fames have 5 year wait after they retire before they can be inducted.
Such a great question.👌👌👌👌👌
Henry, Ronaldo, Rooney, 4th up for debate... I'd say in my time it has to be De Bruyne.
Rooney 🤨 great player but not mount rashmore
Not ronaldo
Rudd gullit before Steven Gerrard is funny 😂
Jay Jay Okocha my favourite PL player not from my own club.
I'm a newcastle fan and you're really not going to have Ryan giggs in that?
Andy Goldstein: What was Peter Beardsley?
Defensive midfielders have been around way before the premier league so bad take and same with overlapping left backs.
Shearer, Juninho, Cantona, Ronaldo!
Really good 4 that is. Juninho wildly underrated, i’d have him or Zola for the same reasons
What's the criteria?
Not the best players but ushered in big changes.
Shearer, Keane, Henry, Gerrard
Henry, Cantona, Gerrard, Beckham
On the becks is good with birds and good looking multiplied with technique.. geordie best set the standard for that.. obviously not premier league but still a trend setter
Cole best left back ever 😅
It’s so obvious that British pundits and commentators don’t watch enough football outside the Premier League. Ashley Cole isn’t even in the conversation for the greatest left back of all-time.
Well he's in the conversation.. Maldini is a better defender, Carlos and Marcelo are better attackers. But Ashley done both extremely well, is he the best.... Probably not.. I mean the best full back I'm history for me is Lahm so he's probably the best Left and Right back
@@lukejones2674 Ashley Cole is so far behind the greatest left backs of all-time that he simply isn’t in the conversation. His name should never be mentioned in the same breath as Paul Breitner, Paolo Maldini, and Ruud Krol (who are the top three, in that order). There’s a case for saying he’s in the top ten, but he couldn’t be placed in the top five ahead of Giacinto Facchetti and Antonio Cabrini.
Cantona no doubt...1st epl superstar...put the epl into a different pedestal with his football genius and on n off field controvesies
Alex Ferguson, Wenger , Gerrard and Alan Shearer . Villa fan
Zola, Vialli, to name a few
Greatest ever LB
Maldini
Carlos
Cantona is only ever the number 1 player for United fans. Players like Henry, Gerrard, Rooney, Scholes, Suarez, Bergkamp are appreciated by all fans.
Henry / Cantona / Bergkamp / Shearer
At least there in dont think they do it in order 😂😂😂
The only problem with the Ederson shout is its wrong to say he changed football. Hes no pioneer. Neuer is the pioneer, even Valdes too came first. Shocking take.
barthez, campos, higuita
Well none of these lot have seen football outside of the PL so not surprised!
In the PL, Pepe Reina was playing out from the back long before Ederson! Look at some of his passes back in the days to our wingers and forwards
@@munawarhussain585Yeah Goldstein is foolish let's face it. Man thinks Salah isn't half as good as he is also.
Andy what happened to Mainoo today?😂
Cantona, Henry, Gerrard, Rooney - Mount rushmore of footballers should be about influence, The influence they had on the league and football in england as a whole, Not necessarily the best players. In these 4 you have 3 of the biggest clubs in england over the last 30 years, When you think about Manchester united you think of Cantona and Rooney, When you think about Liverpool you think of Gerrard, And When you think about Arsenal you think Henry, Mount rushmore is almost the pin ups for the 3 biggest clubs.
Ashley Cole is 2nd only to Maldini imo as LB since the 80s
My Prem Rushmore is Shearer, Henry, Salah and Aguero.
Stephen Carr went forward as a fullback before Cole?? And Teddy.invented the no.10 in the premier
Henry, Ronaldo, Ferdinand & DeBruyne
Yeah sir les great shout
@@joe883 100% Newcastle days was immense
Ashely Cole would be the first name on any team sheet i’d put on my all time top XI. Just to be clear i really dislike Arsenal and Chelsea so no bias here.
Ronaldo the last player to win ballon dor and most influencial player ever in the PL not being in those 4 is maaaad.
Henry, Cristiano, KDB, and my 4th is between Salah and Rooney
KDB 😂😂😂😂😂
@@ForrForeA great player, why laugh at him being included but not Rooney or Salah? He's better than both IMO.
Dwight York was playing football on the beach when he was signed !!!. He had the best impact when he came here from a little Carribbean island .!!!!
Bent was smart not to say the reason why he picked Abraham Lincoln live on air!
Why did he not just say though? Maybe he thought that people would attack him (in comments), which is sad really.
@@seancomrie4714he freed the slaves in the US and was President during the Civil War
@@JimDuggan-tq2lv I wouldn’t say it on air either tbh
@@Jermainebolo Yeah it's not worth the bother, you can't say anything these days without people jumping on your back.
Dennis Irwin!
Jay jay okocha, juninho, ravenelli, Zola, just a few of my childhood favourites
this is Rushmore talk though...
Ashley Cole should be happy if someone puts him top 10 of al time, he is not close to be number 1 thats for sure
Cech
Walker Ferdinand van dijik cole
Scholes
Viera. Gerard
Ronaldo. Shearer. Henry
Vidic carried Rio for several seasons !
Henry, Cantona, Drogba, Shearer
Drogba 😂
The game is The Mount Rushmore of premier league players and Bent decides to go rouge with one of his picks. I can't be certain but im sure America didn't go rouge with one of their presidents picks. 😂
gullit? makalele? ederson? peter ndlove? seriously what are they on about.
Rightly no one rates penaldo
Bent knows way more abkut the sport than Andy does. Gullit is an amazing choice. He actually gave the PL that initial kick to show that superstars will play in it. Andy has lost nearly all credibility choosing Beckham. Predictable from him
No he’s not. Wtf ye on about. One of the 4 most influential players to ever play in the league. Clueless 🤣🤣
Unbelievable player. Before he came to the premier league
Peter Ndlovu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Beckham on mount rushmore is just crazy from Goldstein get this guy fired right now
Joke lists. Keane. Henry. Shearer. Terry.
Cantona, Henry and Shearer are 3 indisputable choices. Fourth spot is very debateble. Bent and Goldstein are waffling.
Canoton zola bergkamp gullitt
Goldstein picking Beckham because he has always had a crush on him is stupid beyond belief 🤦♂️
And Ederson because he changed how GKs play? This guy loves showing off his lack of football knowledge
Its not that deep bro 🤣
@@kiely4561 For Andy it is! He loves it deeeep 🤣😂
Ashley Cole was obviously excellent but it's a bit of a stretch to call him the best ever left back England has ever seen as a statement of fact. Surely you'd have to pin that down to English players only if you're using that statement.
Evra and Irwin would certainly give him a run for his money.
Evra was nowhere near cole!
@@jonseymour5581 yes he was. Cole was good but he wasn't amazing.
@@Ligerpride cole was the best left back the premier league has ever seen by far. Even the older school guys say so.
I would have Ryan Giggs before David Beckham anyday !!!. Ryan Giggs cemented his position in the team !!!.
Beckham was cool? 😂😂😂
He was married to a Spice Girl for crying out loud 😂
Why isn't Terry in there? Cos we shouldnt put awful people on a pedestal
Henry, Lampard, De Bruyne, Rooney
De bruyne 😂😂 wise up
@@ForrFore
Goal and Assist rate higher than any midfielder, played hundreds of games, won 5 PL titles European Cup winner
What more do you want.
Best player in his position in the world for years.
@@bl4ckkn1g8t5 Bruno’s game to goals & assist ratio is better than Kevin’s 😂 he also has the best scoring season ever as a midfielder. But he shouldn’t be on it. Milner has a CL & numerous PL titles. KDB is nowhere near it. Keane, viera, yaya, scholes etc all better than KDB
@@ForrFore
Kevin De Bruyne
Premier League Record
Appearances
251
Goals
65
Assists
107
Bruno Fernandes
Premier League Record
Appearances
151
Goals
48
Assists
39
Bruno has a goal involvement of 0.57 per a game
KDB has a goal involvement 0.68 per a game
Looks like you are wrong
3 time play-maker of the year, 2 time player of the year
@@ForrForeYou're really comparing Milner to De Bruyne? De Bruyne has been as good as any midfieleder in PL history. As good on the ball as Scholes, creative as anyone, assists & goals just a massive player he's been for Man City. He has more to his game than those midfielders you named, he has more range. Vieira & Keane can defend better, but he tracks back to & is so much better going forward.
Why isn't he as good as they other midfielders? What's he missing?
Picked Lincoln for the free slavery thing
Klinsmann was the first world class overseas player to come to our shores. He should be one of the four.
Fav talksport show❤️
😂
Ederson is not the first ball playing Goal keeper, that is German Neuer...
And doesn't get in the Brazil squad over Allison.
@@jonseymour5581but has won a LOT more 😉
@@samroberts6697 in a better team that may have it all withdrawn. Allison is clearly a better goalkeeper.
@@jonseymour5581 hahahah you better hope they do so you’ve got an excuse as to why you’ve fallen short.
My opinion is Alisson is the better shot stopper but Ederson is unmatched with his feet.
Good luck with your vendetta against City 😂✌️
@@samroberts6697 no vendetta, look at Everton and forest. It's clear, right. Now Leicester as well. Only one reason it won't happen to man city and that is world wide politics.
Dennis Irwin is better than Ashley Cole. Based on discipline and versatility
Resume isn't that a CV good old American benty
I will pick Bergkamp ahead of Henry. Not saying Bergkamp was a better player. But cos he started the Wenger revolution and was easy on the eyes.
Rioch bought Bergkamp, not Wenger
@@bl4ckkn1g8t5 I meant he was fundamental to it. He was the catalyst. He was to Arsenal what Cantona was to United. You are right, and I did know he wasn't brought to Arsenal by Wenger
Maldini was probably better than Ashley Cole tbh 😊
There’s no “probably” about it. Paul Breitner, Paolo Maldini, and Ruud Krol are the top three left backs of all-time. Ashley Cole isn’t even in the conversation.
Not probably
Schmeichel
Alexander-Arnold Ferdinand Van Dijk Cole
Ronaldo Gerrard Viera Giggs
Henry Shearer
Becks is one of the main reasons the premier league became big. Fans started watching because of him
People were already watching it in big numbers already anyway.
No they didn't muppet, so showing your ignorance. Pl.was formed as he started, were already watching. Teen girls started watching because of him
Teen girls haha Beckham! He wasn’t world class! Just cos you fancy him
Insane comment
Wtf? No he most definitely wasn't.
Claude Makelele
Giggs still isn't in it purely because of his personal issues since retiring which is an absolute joke!
Are we also going to put the first ever Asian player and French player in the hall of fame, or are they the wrong colour?
Cr7 started the winger/forward Role that all the wingers Copy today like salah where now wingers now have to score 30 to 40 goals aswell as everthting else.
This is nonsense. Ronaldo is never on the pl Rushmore. La liga ye, also wingers players in a front 3 before Ronaldo, Ferguson didn’t invent this he copied it
Goldstein knows nothing about football history. Alan Kennedy for Liverpool in the 1980s got forward.
Goldstein really doesn’t know why a black person would pick Lincoln out of all the Mount Rushmore presidents? Seriously….? Also Bergkamp.
................Schmeichel
Irwin...... Rio..... Terry.......Cole
....Scholes......Keane......Lampard
......Rooney......Shearer.......Henry
Best ever Premier XI in my opinion.
Man Utd fan spotted
Clearly a United fan, kean overrated only midfielder that gets in from United is Scholes, if we talking premier league although he’s never won it Gerrard gets in just for what he meant to English football and either an city or arsenal midfielder viera or toure or kdb
This is pretty much spot on.
Although I would have Neville at right back, Irwin normally played on the left.
@GIBBO4182 wrong.
🫵🤦♂️
@Lowkey_AFC wrong.
🫵🤦♂️
Viera was quality, and would be my 2nd choice, but he didn't have the longevity of Keane in the Premier League.
Same with Toure. Not here long enough.
(That's also why C.Ronaldo isn't in).
KDB goes missing in too many big games. Meanwhile, Lampard scored on the big occasion. Scholes just produced quality.
I would have no Manchester United players in my all time beat team 😂
since when did you start watching football?
@@JMalikZ I just don't like Manchester United, never have never will, that's a fact lol
Andy says some of the most ridiculous thinges ever ederson lmao
Oh my goodness 😂
Cole best left back ever😂😂😂😂yeah cause maldini was a farmer😂😂😂they talk so much rubbish on here some time
Exactly! Ashley Cole isn’t even in the conversation. Paul Breitner, Paolo Maldini, and Ruud Krol are the greatest left backs of all-time. Unfortunately, British pundits don’t watch enough football outside the Premier League.
Bent corrected Goldstein 😂. He is the best in the Prem.
Schmeichel
Irwin Stam Terry Cole
Scholes Viera Giggs
Zola Cantona Bergkamp
Zola?
🫵🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes. Absolute genius.@@Viewer41
@paulmclaughlin8038 apparently not at scoring goals!
Shearer, Henry, Andy Cole, Rooney and Aguero all actually scored goals to prove their genius. Unlike Zola.
Henry has to be in there
Irwin played RB no more than 40 times in his career, Giggs never played apart of a 3 man midfield
Cantona is the best player to grace the premier league.
Giggs 😅
Cantona Henry Giggs DeBruyne
Ederson xD xD xD
Well said jt definitely should be in there
Cole is the best EPL left back but not the greatest ever left back from all leagues. The greatest ever is Roberto Carlos or maldini. Maybe Ashley Cole in third place
Carlos was nowhere near the defender Cole was.
@@RD-zx6py I agree defensively Cole was better. But attacking wise Carlos was better. I’m a Chelsea fan btw but trying not to be biased. Carlos is a World Cup winner too.
@@sofnaji Carlos was a good winger masquerading as a LB. He played in great sides in which he didn't have to do a whole lot of defending. If you're playing against a top side with someone like a Ronaldo in it who you have to hope to contain then I'm taking Maldini and Cole over Carlos every single time. Hell, I'm probably thinking about taking Lahm.
As for international success you can't tell me you swap Carlos out for Cole and that Brazil team are worse. It was actually Cole's England who gave the 2002 Brazil team their toughest game on the way to winning that tournament which is saying something considering how England struggled playing in that heat.
@@RD-zx6py if u had to pick between Maldini and Cole who are you picking
@@sofnaji I think everyone is taking Maldini. Maldini is in the greatest footballers of all time conversation not just a LB/CB discussion.