Why is Nike Suing Everyone?
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- čas přidán 22. 06. 2024
- In the past few years, Nike has been on a mission to protect patents of their iconic shoes like the AF1, Nike Dunk, and the Air Jordan 1. This video breaks down some of the more well-known legal battles Nike has initiated. From the Bape lawsuit to the Lululemon lawsuit, we break it all down here!
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Nike getting 500 patents a year is honestly scary. How many different ways can you make a damn shoe. They bout to gobble up everyone left
Funny considering Nike's history really started when Knight's partnership soured with Onitsuka, and they ripped off the Tiger with the Cortez
Preach.
I also wonder how Nike ever got away with air cushioning because Karhu introduced it before the Swoosh.
Nike didn’t believe in their properties enough to protect them prior to Bape - That’s kinda telling too.
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That's partly true yeah. It was Bill Bowerman who improved the tiger though.
@@NachoAverageFinds you’re too generous.
Bowerman, himself, said he “borrowed” from the two best Onitsuka shoes to “improve” the original Cortez.
Knight brokered the distribution deal. He’s more than 50% guilty of taking advantage of the situation although he claims he only did it because Onitsuka was a bad supplier. I guess it’s easier to criticize when you’re not the creative genius.
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Both got to have a same shoe, Onitsuka, now Asics was planning to release a shoe like this with name Cortez, the then brand new Nike was making own shoes like the Nike Moon Waffle, Moon Waffle spike, a more basic Nike all around sport cleat, and a crappy older low top version of the Nike Rebound was asked about selling the shoes via Knight and Bowerman and Bowerman told them no as they and went first with the shoe stealing the name idea as well, then Onitsuka, now Asics had its shoe they tried to make but Nike tried to sue to prevent Onitsuka, now Asics from selling its model of shoe and when it was found that Nike had stolen the design, they came up with a compromise Nike got the Name and Onitsuka, now Asics they got to keep making its pairs under a new name as then Onitsuka, now Asics changed shoe name just enough to Corsair. This Cortez was also the first model sold in USA/North America that was not sold though Phil Knights first company, Blue ribbon Sports they had yet to change the name officially of the company to Nike.
@@sneakerprofilernike bought air from a NASA engineer it was originally offered to adidas.
I don't really understand a lawsuit against customized sneakers.
It's like trying to prevent that someone makes a profit on modding cars.
I agree
but actually that “customized sneaker” are making money for selling them, that are not just “customized” anymore, just literally copying, and ugly ain’t gon lie
@@StuartKnox No, I'm talking about #9.
If I understood correctly, they bought a bunch of AF1s and customized them.
So they actually had to purchase the shoes from Nike in the first place... Then why does it bother Nike what they do with them?
Of course, if they would turn them into something offensive or so (like the one with the blood), then I understand... But painting butterflies on them?
Ferrari does this
They are doing what ferrari is doing
I always wondered why while Warren Lotas and others were getting sued by Nike, Bape sat unscathed. Sure they finally got sued later but I was always curious why Nike let the Bapesta slide for over 10 years. Cuz they were the first to do it on a big scale? Cuz they were big brand already? I’m not sure.
Yeah they were massive. I always wondered too.
The info I know was Bape took advatage of the expiring design registrations of Nike in Japan when creating Bapesta
20 years. Tf u been !?
The only foul suit is against Lululemon. A lot of brands use some kind of flyknit, I believe it's unfair to trademark it.
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This man said "now nike is a socially responsible company" that's crazy 🤣🤣
That's that nike PR machine for you. Nike is as socially responsible as an oil rig is to the ocean.
I was thinking the exact same thing 😂😂😂
Welcome back! I would love to see a video on the ACG line of the Y2K era (their vintage ACG Y2K jacket apparel rocks!) and the Alpha project that birthed the Kukini and the Presto spawing off of it too!
I love the Kukini. I grabbed a pair not long ago. Same with presto. Two of my favorite nikes!
Man I seriously love your videos. They’re very low key and chill but I can tell you still put a ton of effort into making them high quality and entertaining. Keep it up!
Thanks Kaden 🙏
Many of my neighbors back home work for Nike, Columbia, Adidas, and Under Armor. In 2016 Nike made the uniforms for Army team of the Army Navy game. They chose to honor the 82nd Airborne in the uniform design. As a former paratrooper of the 82nd Airborne Division I really wanted one of the jerseys since the mass produced version used my regiment’s logo. When my neighbor found out that I wanted one, he secured two for me and left them on my porch on my birthday in 2017. My neighbors always hooked me up with free gear or passes to purchase gear at employee stores. I’ll always rep my home brands.
Back in the early 2000s I bought several Bape sneakers based on the Air Max design. They also cloned the Converse Superstar and Chuck Taylor's. I think it just started out as a tongue in cheek brand, centered around the catch phrase A Bathing Ape, which referenced the lazy youth of Japanese society that took inspiration from American culture of lost youth, graffiti art, skate culture and hip hop. The brand was exclusive back then due to being worn by rappers and collabs with Kanye & Pharrell. They even copied American Express cards by offering green & gold membership cards in the Amex design.The cardholders were given exclusive rights to buy merchandise only available to members who had to be Japanese citizens which were verified by a Japanese address and bank account. Many American G.I's stationed in Yokohama or Okinawa who had Japanese girlfriends were able to buy the highly sought after clothes & sneakers that foreigners couldn't purchase.
Nowadays Bape's glory days are far behind as rappers have stopped wearing the brand but they still heavily clone other brands including the Bapex watch which is a carbon copy of a cheap looking iced out Rolex.
Nice AI comment
Im suprised Nike doesn't sue Sketchers. They're ripping off most of Nike designs and even the colour ways.
They’ve sued them so many times haha it would be a whole video
I think I’m on the side of Nike, I mean I feel like the brands that take the silhouette and just add a different logo and heel tag text should be punished, it’s lazy honestly, like others don’t try to change anything truly. Now if the silhouette changed or the upper design was changed total then it would be fine, like a bapesta it’s the same silhouette as a AF1 but with and different upper design would be ok, but no it’s just lazy “customs”
I agree! Some of the brands are out of pocket by just changing the swoosh haha
The airmax at 0:20 all the way to the right are the n64. One of my faves!! I still need a pair.
Nike have never been socially responsible, they fleece their customers, especially the poorest one's who made them what they are.
Fr, they are just brainwashing people with their eco and inclusive marketing
You don't have to buy Nikes. Your complaint is MOOT and asinine in and of itself.
You can wear Brooks, Asics, and a plethora of other shoes.
@Slick1020 Sorry to break the bad news, I haven't bought any Nike shoe for year's. I only wear Adidas Originals or other brands now 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿.
@@equinox95he wasn’t suggesting you specifically don’t have to buy the shoes 😭 he’s just saying no one is being forced to purchase their shoes
@@Slick1020it's irrelevant about anyone having to buy Nike products. He simply pointed out that they have never been socially responsible. Which is very true.
Thanks for the upload amigo 👍 stay dry this weekend 🌧🌧
Appreciate it Tito!
I think Ari captured Nike perfectly when he created the menthol 10s tbh. "The 2 companies that have taken the most and given the least"
I don't like or buy nikes but a company has no obligation to give anyone anything. You like a product you buy the product end of story
I worked at the dallas cowboys warehouse years ago and had to destroy product. They basically give you a giant blade and you cut it up till its unuseable..
Wow…
It's already happening here in the Philippines. Just like the thunderbolt. I hope they will come up with their own designs.
I thought you were going to feature the recent suing of New Balance. To me that was a very breaking news. And I would like to learn more about it.
That news broke literally the day before I uploaded this
@@NachoAverageFinds Well guess you have got yourself a new project haha, I believeamy would really enjoy that including myself
MiniDV ha! My home videos of the kids were on those. Only one place in the country that converts them to digital now, that I could find.
They were huge for the skateboarding world
Your next video should be about crocs
(New subscriber can’t stop watching you❤❤)
Thank you man! I appreciate the love.
I love Nike. But I also love Japanese culture, beyond streetwear. If you put a pair of Bapestas right next to pair of AF1s, the quality in the Bapestas are light years better. There’s just no competing with Japanese craftsmanship which is why I feel Nike is reluctant to proceed in trying to settle any lawsuits with Bape.
In all honesty though, ever since Nigo’s departure from Bape, the quality and creativity in the products haven’t really appealed to me. His Human Made line is more in line with his (and my) more mature street style. I’ll leave Bape for the kids.
need more details
A nike ad popped up should i be scared?
Nike gonna sue us consumers for taking photos in Nikes now 😂
Nike is stretching with the 2nd story lol
They want all the power haha
They went pretty soft on these companies. They could have really destroyed them if they wanted to.
“Another one.”
I commented on this stuff many times in different places.
Nike owes a lot to Karhu and Onitsuka. adidas and Converse created the look of modern Bball shoes. Nike came in and bought one of them out. Well played… despite my misgivings around the Karhu and Onitsuka rip-offs.
Current events are comical to me.
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Thanks for the insights brodie
It's like this. ... You post?! I watch!!
Grateful for you Nicole
I have a couple Nike Air retro 90s high tops and a few polos. Otherwise after reading Kara Goucher’s book, The Longest Run and Nike covering up some awful stuff I’m never buying a Nike product again.
I keep telling my daughters to quit buying Nike products.
Wow, "had a hell of a weekend" 😂😂😂
Can you talk about the discontinuation of the Nike Cortez
I’d love to
@@NachoAverageFinds Thanks brotha you’re the best 🙏 keep on dropping heat 🔥
The shoes that I was waiting for you to mention are Ari Menthol 10s [AF1s] because Nike & Newport made sure to shut down those customs to be made again.
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Oh that’s a great topic for a whole video
Can I get the song list please? :')
Now we want vid about recent lawsuit against adidas and NB.
That would be a doozy
We wrote extensively about Nike lawsuits and include some of the adidas stuff.
Nacho Average Finds is free to reference as a resource for any stories on the topic.
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A lot of brands shoes were sued recently for claiming to use the same Flyknit material in the upper. This includes most brands using a strategic mesh upper that looks similar to the Flyknit pattern but often uses own materials not even close to the Flykint upper. The sueing covers some brands that use a similar technique to get the upper made but are a totally different material as well as a different upper pattern. I mean one of the dumber of these was claiming the ASCIS, formerly Onitsuka the upper on the DS Trainer 23 when that debuted last year was the same as the Flyknit upper on one of the Free models but this was found to be a different material though the weave was similar to the Nike the pattern was not becuse of some materials used on the toe section that are not like Flynkit upper. The other major suing was the Nike Ripstop upper that actually Nike is stopping suing for after Nike people found out the shoes upper was stolen from Adidas in the Adidas Bounce models when those first debuted in 2012, they determined only this from Nike suing is that both Nike and Adidas get to keep making their uppers so it was a waste of time.
Nike was also unsuccessful trying to sue adidas for Primeknit. adidas first sued Nike in German courts and won because adidas has drawings that predate anything Nike has for records. adidas was unsuccessful in the U.S. because Flyknit is different enough to Primeknit for both to exist - and Nike changed its patent. Then, Nike tried to stop adidas making Primeknit and even suggested adidas owes royalties. Nike lost its knit lawsuits against adidas.
it's refreshing to read many people are aware of these innovation fantasies coming out of Nike HQ. Nike marketing is incredible, and Nike makes good products. But Nike is nowhere near as innovative as its marketing machine would have us believe it is.
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Велич хорош, за одну ночь наснимал видосов на неделю 💪
Excellent content as always gentlemen.
I would like to know about Nike vs Panam
I would love to tell the story of Panam one day.
i got a nike ad before this... 🤣
As much as I have been a Nike customer since 1991 (more off than on), I am glad that my support of Nike and other major brands have slowly ended. I am getting more and more into barefoot shoes (drop zero heels, wide toe box, etc...).
I did some work for them, and they were and are extremely strict about copyright, I won’t even say their name in this comment. The artwork I created for a runway show, I wasn’t allowed to post the photos of on my social media. You can tell what I did for them because all the swooshes had to be removed. I am not really mad about, just bummed because I can’t flex my portfolio pieces I did for them
I wonder why Bape still NOT being cancelled and getting the hype despite crazy copying the Nike designs
I mean IP infringement only feels bad when it’s a David vs Goliath story. Nikes one of the biggest companies in the world and some of their shoes feel like a whole “genre” like the AF1 or air Jordan. That’s why they get so many reiterations from different companies (like the marbolro cigarette af1s or Saint Laurent Jordan’s highs)
Because Japan lol. They just do everything better. If you put a pair of Bapestas right next to a pair of AF1s, the quality in the Bapestas are light years better.
The MISCHIF lawsuit was warranted. And then some. What the H were those idiots thinking. I think most of these lawsuits are appropriate. Good video bro👍.
I guess Nike is thinking if we are being held accountable for our actions we’re gonna expect that equally. Which is fair
The AF1 is the default silhouette for sneakers
How much bape go for they popping in my middle school day never knew they was japa
i haven't worn the bape stars but honestly they look good cant deny
Keeping tags on the merch looks dumb to me (but I'm also old), especially when everyone leaves them on a hat that they're wearing. It just discolors the actual location of the tag (but again, I'm old 😂).
I hope you guys are okay. You are missed. You definitely made some of the best sneaker content on the internet.
Interesting video you got here.
Thanks dude!
Nike is not only one of the best athletics brand but one of if not THEE greatest company of ALL TIME
It is so crazy to think some of these shoe designers just don't sign a contract with Nike to make their designs. That way everyone is happy and the shoes are official.
If not mistaken , nike also having lawsuit against sketchers
Yes! They’re constantly in lawsuits with them
I agree with each lawsuit
Bro most of these companies got no creativity but idk why they wanna sue people that make custom shoes they bought the shoes it’s theirs
Can't call someone a designer if they completely rip off a design that already exists.
I wonder if the Shoe Surgeon ever got in trouble?
He rebuilds individual sneakers bought from Nike, so it's considered an art piece or custom and not a knock-off. That's the reasoning Mache gave in an interview (FSR?).
Good question
His work is amazing. Cool guy I met him once.
Oh shoot Chef Erik!! Thanks for the love dude.@@cheferikthurman
I don't think he'll be in trouble. Unless he's selling his CUSTOM MADE designs in big batches (like MSCHF did or other brands/people mentioned in this vid).
I don’t understand if everyone is so creative, just come up with your own 😂😂
Only if someone reinvent the whole wheel around those 3 basic silhouettes.🤔✌️🙏
Same reason they stopped doing the more almost indestructible better version of the Air Force 1 (Aka the Lunar Force 1): money
Nike is responsible ? lol 😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I almost 💩 my pants!!!!!!
I used to do graffitti on af1, id buy a pair. Spend 5 hours on pair. And Sell it for just 50$ profit. Which in the end didnt even coverthe cost of art supplies. Obviously I stopped. But. If I were to do this. Id tread carefully.nike aint what they used to be. That said. I think them lrotecting thier ip. Is important. We dont want people making knock offs.
Why you never make video about adidas torsion zx 8000 from 90s this shoes are in europe a sensation special color aqua blue
I'd never go after Ape, they are iconic for us back in the day. No one is getting rich of those shoes anymore. Just let them rest in peace and not sour our memories. Man I love those shadow grey apes.
Honestly, what would y'all do if someone was using something you made? In this type of situation of course.
As a person frim Germany, I speek latin and feel kinda offended😂jk great vid keep it up
They only get mad when it’s a big company 🙄
Once a person buys shoes, those shose belong to the person to do whatever they want.
Nope, they released 666 shoes, not 606. Great vid!
Omni?
Please do a video on how AND 1 and The Shaq brand get away with it. I’m sure of the brand actually. But it’s the knockoff’s at Wal-Mart I’m talking about. Do they have to pay Nike some kind of royalty?
That's a great idea Chad. I appreciate it brother. Thanks for peeping the other videos too. I see you!
This is why I sued that brand for stealing my concept designs that I had
Nike tripping on these lawsuits
On some for sure
All I will say!!? If converse hightops actually performed? We would all be wearing them now, not historically.
The Nike vs Lululemon thing is funny. Nike definitely "borrowed" Lululemon-like materials for their athletic wear and copied the yoga-pant-like fits. If Lululemon makes shoes that look different but have a similar material, then Nike really has no case.
bro i cant lie i deadass thought bapestas were a bape x nike collab
Is stock X legit I want buy from them
Nike ripped off Newport Cigarettes with their logo.
Well, they have patents. You need to protect your patents or it will be dismissed after 10 years. So Nike is suing everyone infiringing there design patents in order to keep there patents and make money of em.
No matter what, Nike has rights.
Yeah and they will use them
Nike Is sueing everyone but for a good reason they're constantly making knockoffs of their shoes 😭😭😭🙏
Wtf I love nike but acting like the Ferrari of the sneaker industry is not cool
I mean, all these companies were profiting off their trademarked designs. Idk what you expect them to do
Nike needs to focus on making their shoes comfortable rather than cute.
they dont want competition
calling nike socially conscious is just some next level naivety
Yaw not clicking the like button?🤔
*BAPSTA SHOULD'VE KNOWN BETTER*
Nike n Disney Been Known To Sue Anybody
Everyone copying AF1’s need to step their game up. Like cmon. 3 panels on the side profile. Toe box with identical ventilation. Shape. Sole. Stop it.
If companies actually designed different shoes then maybe someone will actually hit with their own iconic design. For example, Shell Toe Adidas, Adidas Allstars, Converse. Like cmon yo, step it up.
I’m gonna have to agree with Nike on this. These shoes are literally plagiarism of their products.
If you can’t beat them delete them.
On the side of children making fifty cents an hour.
Child labor is another reason they are moving from China, because of backdraft.
Looks like Nike are in Their Ferrari Arc
Damn this channel still exists 😂
Of course foo
@@NachoAverageFinds it’s cause I’m not into shoes no more. I didn’t mean to come off as a dbag. 😂 Happy Holidays to you and big Nacho . And a Happy new year with more success your way
Just sue it 😭😭😭
The shose called bape all astar just saying
They right..they loosing billions on chinese copys..🤔
All those custom sneakers are just nike knockoff, even a blind person can see that those customized sneakers are done using a nike sneaker, which means nike did most of the work.
Nike is the Ferrari of the sneaker community
Nike is right get ur own swag
the bape shoes were BLATANT copies...still nice doe