Matt I am surprised and disappointed that you don't drink, alcohol in relative moderation makes everyone feel good. I am disappointed with the SL3's battery life which is a mere 260 shots per charge when using the rear LCD, which is how I shoot due to old age. I am also disappointed that they didn't launch a silver version simultaneously, the fake leather looks and feels so much better on the silver SL2.
@@cameraprepper7938 A7RV is so much more like a Sony PlayStation than a camera; plus Leica cameras are so much more durable and of a superior design than any Sony cameras.
@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Not to me, the sl3 looks like a children toy camera !!! By the way the sensor in the sl3 is the same as in the 7RV, but the Sony Camera have a bit higher dynamic range.
Congrats on the invitation and well deserved. A nice presentation as always. I had been waiting for some time to see what the SL3 would have to offer and I decided this would be the best introduction to the SL system. I placed my order today. Thanks Matt.
Thanks, yes it was very nice to be invited. Yes the SL3 gives a good balance of "Leica" + mod cons found in other brands to make it an easy transition (I think).
I just bought a SL2 (new to me) to compliment my Q. I’m extremely happy with both cameras and perhaps the next iterations will have to wait a few years. Thanks for the informative video and thanks to Leica for continuous development of their amazing cameras.
Glad you got an invite. A very well made presentation rather than just a tech spec readout. As for the weather sealing, I dont care how confident the Leica guys are. If a camera/lens costs that much, I'd be wiping it dry every few mins.
Congrats on the invite to an actual Leica launch event!!! That is a rare ticket to get, well earned!!! Great video also. From my perspective, and purely from an aesthetic perspective, well, usability as well, meaning size and handling, I'm firmly in the M camp, specifically the M11P.
Great video Matt thanks for helping me on my Leica SL (2S) journey maybe a year or so before I can get the SL3 when are they going to make you a Leica Ambassador you deserve to be
Hey Mat . Good overview of the SL3 tweaks and incremental updates .. means the SL and SL2s will become gradually cheaper and seems to me not a huge difference except for the ProUser who needs to show off the latest gear ! I think Fuji Medium Format is leading in the body megapixels game ! Lenses of course Leica is light years ahead of the pack !
Thanks John! The SL2 will be replaced (as I understand) so should get cheaper and anyone selling their SL2-S will help make them more available on the used market.
Thanks for the review. I was eager to see if any other brands copied the Nikon Zf eye detection in manual focus mode. You didn't mention it so maybe it is not on the Leica yet.
I saw the new SL3 last night. It is impressive. The 60 MP sensor allows greater cropping potential, which can be handy. Compared to my SL2, I liked the new ON/OFF button, multifunction hand grip, transparent info bars (if desired), nicer fonts, tilt-able rear LCD screen, the three function buttons moved to the right of the rear LCD panel, and the additional rotating wheel at the top left. It’s shedding some weight and girth is a plus. Matt, have you asked Leica to sell you an EVF eye cup for your SL?
I bought the new DC SL6C Dummy Batteries and with the Anker 87w 2600K Power Delivery Bank My SL2-S and Q3 runs for hours. Love them both and hoping I won't have to wait long for the SL3. Panasonic has registered three new cameras with Phase Detect should be the replacements to the S1, S1H & S1R for alternative choices. I do own the S5II & S5IIX and with their menu systems are great but I love the Leica Stream Menu System better. Love Your videos and wondering do You use a GoPro or iPhone for the closeups of the cameras? Cheers!
That 90 mm Summicron-SL is a wonderful lens. Sadly, I sold mine because I no longer do portrait photography. I know the 90 mm focal length can be used for a lot of things other than portraits, but that was my main justification for having a £4,000 lens. I probably won't buy an SL3 because I'm happy with my SL2-s, but should Leica deign to produce an SL3-s, I will be sorely tempted. Edit: P.S. I'm so happy your dedication to the brand is recognised by Leica. Great review.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom With 32,0000 subscribers, I would say you are pretty well known. BTW Enjoyed our session and am getting better results with the Sigma 90. Thanks
On my EOS R5 I RAW to the CF Express and JPG to the SD. Works wonderfully, especially if I am just shooting Marketplace pics or having fun. I don't video on this rig, but like than I can do a fairly high local bit rate if it becomes a thing for me.
Awesome! Wouldn't mind this being a bit hit, and people subsequently dumping SL2s on the used market ha. For me the ISO dial stands out, major improvement in ergonomics. And yes, my knees would also sometimes appreciate the tilting screen haha.
I asked the same at the launch. They said (1) most people requested this (2) it's stronger (3) it's slimmer (4) it was possible to still add weather sealing
If this were any other brand I would go “great now the sl2 will be dirt cheap!” I’m sure there will be more people trying to offload them in the near future so I guess I’ll be on the lookout
I wanted to see Leica come out with an reduce pixel SL-3 S but nothing yet. So I bought a 24mp Lumix S5mii X which adds Phase Detect and a lot of video features. With the Lumix 20-60mm lens Vlog is possible with this Full Frame camera
Nice camera, but I would have preferred a flush LCD design, similar to what's seen in the SL. The eyepiece could have been redesigned as well, since it's not very robust. Switches are better than power buttons, and brass is superior to aluminum, especially if the camera is used extensively. I've heard more than once that the camera might not eject the battery properly after a fall, indicating that the mechanism, although nice, should be more robust. It would also be interesting to see a comparison of the native image outputs from the SL, SL2, and SL3. Overall, I prefer the aesthetics of the 601.
Great Vid Matt. Whenever I am looking for some non BS Leica info I turn to your vids as they are detailed and honest. Will you be investing in an SL3? I would love to see a side by side real world comparison with the SL2 with sample images. I have always had M’s but I get my new SL3 tomorrow. Cant wait. Thanks again.
Did you happen to test AF performance between the 90mm APO and one of the newer non APO crons? I've noticed quite a difference in AF accuracy and performance especially in low light. I feel the 35 and 50 SL Crons perform AF very quickly where as the APO lenses seem to be a lot slower especially when challenged with low light. Have you had the same experience?
Hi i've not seen this but I only used the 35 and 90 shown in the video. I normally prefer M lenses. (I imagine there is some differences between lenses and if you are comparing the Leica-Lumix lenses to pure Leica lenses they will vary as the newer 35 & 50 kit lenses are copies of the Lumix 5018 & 35mm (in a metal barrel). They are lighter too so likely also easier to focus faster.
Haha, it couldn't be more opposite to my actual bedroom - single bed, piles of cameras/ boxes/ bikes.. lol. I sleep in the box room and use the open plan room as the studio.
I purchased the original Leica SL, partly ecause of you. It was the best decission ever. I also tried the SL2-S and I ddint like the color science. Did you have the opportunity of comparing the Sl with the SL 3 in regards to color science tones and all that? Were you impressed by the colors produced by the SL3 ? Thank you in advance
Thanks! Yes older Leica cameras have a different look. New Leica have the magenta cast look, SL3 the same as the M11 etc. You can fix in post with presets (to taste). You saw the side by side photo test in this video and those photos looked a similar colour from memory.
Nice video Matt. Already saw Math from Switserland video. He was invited at the Leica factory. The SL3 is completely made in Germany not in Portugal. I asked him to try the SL3 with M lenses in a future video cause he has all of them. The SL3 should be smaller like the rumours said. Did you notice that or is it not true. Here in NL the price is 6800 euro. Good price imo. I like the new standby mode too. Are you buying ? Anyways thanks for sharing.
Thanks Rob, yes as I understand there was the Germany meet and the UK one for Europe. Kai and a few others went to the Germany one too. Yes it's smaller and lighter, you can see it in on clip next to my SL. Yes great price vs. M11 (same sensor, same photos). No I'm happy with my SL (I'm more into film at the moment). Cheers
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Great but I would have loved you putting your Voigtlander lenses on the SL3 and show the results. Next week I am going to play with a SL3 at my Camerashop Have a nice weekend
I’m looking forward to maybe getting a cheap SL soon! I honestly don’t need most of the improvements of the 2 2S and 3 and would rather blow my money on more lenses
Congrats on the invite that’s quite some feat Struggling to work out why I’d upgrade from the SL2-S to be honest for my wedding work I don’t need 60mp, I don’t want a flip screen and whilst the AF could be good I really don’t think it’s up to par with the Sony A9 original. Plus at £6k , with no charger ,no battery charger and new cards it’s going to be a £7k + spend…
Personally, i do think 60 MP is simply overkill. Think about the filesizes, and at the end, it's just the 36x24mm Sensor... and not every lens could resolve so much resolution, optical flaws do show more, than with a 24 MP Sensor.🙂 This Megapixel war goes on since the 1st DSLRs...otherwise, fine DSLM for the wealthy.
So Matt, you say people were crying out for improved autofocus. Do you think the autofocus on the SL2 was poor? Would it stack up with say, the Nikon range of similar age such as the Z7ii?
Hi David, I’m not the best person to ask as I shoot MF 99% and I’ve not used other brands that much BUT I think most agree that previous model AF works but it’s not super fast eye detect style AF. (It’s the old contrast detect). SL3 is starting to getting closer to other brands AF.
I can see that the SL3 is a good camera, but if I want the SL3, I would rather go Nikon for more value and opportunity in lens. From a user standpoint, would you upgrade to the SL3 or go the m11 route? I would buy Leica because Leica is iconic and original, such as the m series. I would rather go Nikon zf than sl3.
Yes, tough question as I don’t need 60MP. I’d go black M11 for the low weight and small M size to aim to use it as a RF and without an EVF. I bought my M10 for this but love my SL for portrait sessions.
The good news is it feels like a Leica and shoots like a Leica so that's the key. (I own Lumix S5 too but never pick it up because.. it feels like a Lumix!). HUGE DIFFERENCE :) ..and VF is crap! :)
The L lenses are all still too big so I’d be using my M lenses, in which case I may as well just stay with my M11. If they had smaller L lenses I might change my mind.
Hi Ian, if you use the EVF on the M11 most of the time I would get a SL series for a far better experience (I own the M10 so sit in both camps), but for a small setup and RF use/ zone focusing the M system is king. (Hence I use both for difference tasks now).
📸 The stuff that DREAMS are made of & if you don’t have a dream how can you make it come true. Like a good ROLEX watch a LEICA SL3 is a good investment and wonderful camera to have as a family heirloom to hand down to the next generation of photographer filmmaker. I now know what I am working towards and saving up for.✌🏻😎🇦🇺
Servus Matt✌ Video natürlich ansprechend Präsentiert, das muss man Dir lassen👌 Wäre mir definitiv zu groß vom Body her, ehrlich gesagt möcht ich auch nicht mehr zu großen Teilen, brauch ich auch nicht Nerds und die es professionelle Arbeiten brauch klar. Die technische Intuition entwickelt sich stetig weiter und bei Leica zur SL3 ein schwenkbares Display schon ein kleines Wunder😁😁 Lg Anderl
Interesting, SL3 looks actually larger than 601. I must say, it is probably not worth the upgrade IMO. Designwise, I must say original SL is so much cleaner look thank SL2 and SL3
I am deciding between SL2 sliver which is around $3k now and the much more expensive SL3. Do you like the straight out of camera color of SL3? I heard the color of SL is the best and then SL2. I am slightly afraid that the SL3 photos I have seen so far looks like the ones from Sony A7RV which is not a good thing IMO and may require some editing.
Hi, yes the SL3 colours are like the M11 colours. More magenta. You can fix with a preset if shooting RAW. Yes most agree that the first SL has the best colours. If you don't need the fancy AF and tilt screen get the SL2.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for the detailed replies! I used AF for people and animals pretty often on my Sony before I sold it. I don’t miss it too much so I will go with the SL2 then! I still want the convince of USBC charging which is why I’m not getting the SL.
Always so useful, but it feels like you’ve sold out to the Leica Behemoth.. I loved when you criticized the overly high prices of Leica and offered less expensive alternatives. And valued older generations like the SL 601. So says the owner of a new Leica 35 Summilux FLE II. The nerve!
So far the number one negative trend for me is the battery life. Every review I have seen and read seems to be the low life of the new battery. I have 4 batteries for my SL2S and Q2 and I know I can't use those to get the full potential of the SL3 so having to buy the new batteries and multiple ones is frustrating. I do like the new accessory of the USBC coupler but that will still require an outside power source. I really want to buy this camera but so far I'm leaning toward waiting for the next generation. Maybe SL3S???
I think the SL3 will work fine with your batteries, it's only some specifics that might work slower with older batteries (as I understand). I think the battery is likely similar to any modern mirrorless camera that uses AF lenses. They last forever with M lenses.
We have a saying in the Persian language, it goes, The Crow wanted to walk like a Rock Partridge. In the effort, it forgot to walk like a Crow. They hae rui d tne beautiful ergonomics and simple but highly instinctive functionality of the SL to come up with something that is neither a Leica nor a Nikon Z9 or even a Sony A1. Why? I am not usually critical of Leica, perhaps due to the fact that their M line of cameras is still based on trend that the family owned business chose, and not a corporation. Just look at that stupid dial on the top, and the positioning of the original buttons. Just because the ' people ' want it, does not mean it is the right thing to implement in an otherwise iconic camera.
Thanks, yes I guess it's difficult. Do they give what people want and add lots of things in a hope to please, or risk everything (like the SL) and make what they deem to be a great camera. It's a business at the end but if it helps them fund the brand as a whole it's still a good thing. We can pick the cameras that suit us.
If I were in the market for any SL, it would be the SL2s. I don't need anything that the SL2s does not have. There is a question about implementing the IBIS with none-Leica adapters and lenses, but I have not read or heard arguments to clear this up as yet. I like yourself, have quite a few vintage Leica and non Leica M mount lenses so a working IBIS is important to me due to my physical condition. @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
It's a strong man who can turn down a dram of Glenfarclas. They've done well to lose weight while adding features, but I think it is still too heavy for me. I enjoyed everything about the SL2 apart from the weight, and still wish I had kept my CL, and belong to the wish they had upgraded it brigade.
Thanks, yes I'll be honest I nearly buckled to the peer pressure of the situation but I thought, no I'm old enough now to not follow the crowd and politely decline. Yes the CL is still awesome. See the next video/ video soon as I was using it in Poland.
I'd rather prefer the M11-P over the SL3. The SL3 is not a pretty tool, it even lacks standards like a built-in GPS-module and has no internal memory. I simply don't want to add another stupid card format for no good reason as the SL3 is still a super slow camera. The M11-P is the more advanced and thought out camera in that price range.
The downside to the Z8 is that it is predominantly made of plastic, if one was to use any of the SL series cameras as a hammer on the Z8 the Z8 would get pulverised in seconds; it is the worst mistake Nikon did with the Z8 compromise on it's build quality, therefore it is definitely not a baby Z9.
If you saw my SL-SL2-SL2S video you'll see the Sl2 isn't great at low light. Compare the SL vs SL2 in that video then see this video again and it should be easily 1+ stops better (2+ stops I would guess if use 18MP)
Matt : will this higher count sensor 65 mp's .... be a problem with our older Leica M lenses like my DR Summicron , or my APO / ASPH Summicron 90mm F2 ? I also use Voightlander glass and adapt certain M42 German lenses. What are your thoughts Matt ?
Just thinking about buying another £50 Olympus OM 2 body to add to the fleet and then THIS dammit! Luckily there is no way on earth I can afford this so safe for now......lol
Silly thing too the old SL did not have the leather on the front. My sl2-s’s are like the SL3 and if you use them a lot the leather wears out because my fingernails rub against it To get the leather replaced costs a fortune The original SL would not have that issue
Thanks, I yes ew all like different systems. Some will prefer Nikon Z, some Hassy, some Fuji. I still like my SL. (If I can get a GFX to review at some point I can give my opinion as to how they compare in real use). I've never used a better finder as the SL2/SL3/SL2S so would be interesting to try a Fuji.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yeah I don’t have any love for any brand as they don’t care about bother us Leica bringing out a new camera with the same evf is just lazy, yes it was ok but when 9.1mp is available then the sl3 should have that imo A swing and a miss for me You should get the gfx100ii it’s evf is beautiful and the only thing I dislike about my gfx100s is the evf isn’t up to standard
Yeah theres a lot of money in those cases.. but Leica gets huge props and hours of free promotion on your channel.. and still you have to hand the camera back.... considering all the people who you have turned on to Leica, seems like the least they could do is give you a camera...
Thanks Steve! Yes most were journalists. Ofc. Honest reviews .. I still like film and my old SL but the SL3 is great for those that need those features.
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Matt I am surprised and disappointed that you don't drink, alcohol in relative moderation makes everyone feel good.
I am disappointed with the SL3's battery life which is a mere 260 shots per charge when using the rear LCD, which is how I shoot due to old age. I am also disappointed that they didn't launch a silver version simultaneously, the fake leather looks and feels so much better on the silver SL2.
AND Sony A7RV cheaper than BOTH Leicas yet same GREAT photos, even cheaper the Sony A7RIV yet same GREAT photos 😉 Have a nice Sunday
@@cameraprepper7938 A7RV is so much more like a Sony PlayStation than a camera; plus Leica cameras are so much more durable and of a superior design than any Sony cameras.
@@PSYCHIC_PSYCHO Not to me, the sl3 looks like a children toy camera !!! By the way the sensor in the sl3 is the same as in the 7RV, but the Sony Camera have a bit higher dynamic range.
@@cameraprepper7938 It looks like a toy camera to you because you are a dunce, plus you have zero knowledge of what great design is.
Your recognition by Leica as an influencer of significance must give you great joy. Well done.
Thanks Rick! Yes it was such a nice surprise when Leica contacted me (after 11 years of reviewing Leica)
Nice to see you included in this launch, Matt
Yea congrats Matt!
Yes thanks you! A very nice surprise!
Thanks!
Congrats on the invitation and well deserved. A nice presentation as always. I had been waiting for some time to see what the SL3 would have to offer and I decided this would be the best introduction to the SL system. I placed my order today. Thanks Matt.
Thanks, yes it was very nice to be invited. Yes the SL3 gives a good balance of "Leica" + mod cons found in other brands to make it an easy transition (I think).
The best presentation of the SL3! I really like your CZcams videos Matt!
Thanks, much appreciated!
I just bought a SL2 (new to me) to compliment my Q. I’m extremely happy with both cameras and perhaps the next iterations will have to wait a few years. Thanks for the informative video and thanks to Leica for continuous development of their amazing cameras.
The SL2 is more camera than you'll ever need and there's no need to upgrade for years.
Congrats on your SL2 Peter! Yes these cameras are very similar in most respects so I'm sure you'll love it.
Yes I still love my SL!
Very nice and practical review. Was particular interested in the weather test. Thanks for your great work!
Thanks Marcus!
You deserve it man! 😉👍
Ah thank you!
Glad you got an invite. A very well made presentation rather than just a tech spec readout.
As for the weather sealing, I dont care how confident the Leica guys are. If a camera/lens costs that much, I'd be wiping it dry every few mins.
Thank you! Yes agree I’d always be more careful too (at these prices)
Thanks Matt for the review. Well done. I most impressed that this Leica is rain-worthy
Thanks Guy! Yes if you need a rain proof camera then look no further! (They tipped a bottle of water over one camera to proof it!)
Congrats on the invite to an actual Leica launch event!!! That is a rare ticket to get, well earned!!! Great video also. From my perspective, and purely from an aesthetic perspective, well, usability as well, meaning size and handling, I'm firmly in the M camp, specifically the M11P.
Thanks Paul! Yes it was very nice to be asked. M11P. Very nice!
Great video Matt thanks for helping me on my Leica SL (2S) journey maybe a year or so before I can get the SL3 when are they going to make you a Leica Ambassador you deserve to be
Thanks Terry, very kind! I felt lucky just to get invited!
Thanks Matt again for the great review. Great camera and I think it is time now to get the Sl2s 😊
Thanks! Yes hopefully some people will sell their SL2-S for the new SL3 which should help to make them cheaper.
Very informative, Matt. Gleneagles is a great location and it gave you the chance to test the waterproofing :)
Thanks! Yes the Scottish weather actually helped us test the cameras :)
Fantastic Matt, hope you enjoyed Scotland. What a well thought presentation by you and Leica. I hope to convert to Leica soon.
Thank you! It was very nice to be invited by Leica. (The old SL is still great if on a budget. I love mine).
Hey Mat . Good overview of the SL3 tweaks and incremental updates .. means the SL and SL2s will become gradually cheaper and seems to me not a huge difference except for the ProUser who needs to show off the latest gear ! I think Fuji Medium Format is leading in the body megapixels game ! Lenses of course Leica is light years ahead of the pack !
Thanks John! The SL2 will be replaced (as I understand) so should get cheaper and anyone selling their SL2-S will help make them more available on the used market.
Great test of the SL3 in the Scottish mist and rain! I also liked the caravan of Leica branded Defenders!
Thanks David, yes I told the guys, a big well done for whoever thought of the Leica logos on the Defenders!
Glad Leica invited you. Got mine on day 1.
Thanks yes a great surprise and happy to hear you have one to enjoy!
M12 with ibis - now that will be game changing - nice review Matt - many thanks 😎
Thanks! Yes it's be interesting to see what comes with the M12
Great video Matt, I think I will stick to my SL2, nothing I need 😁
Thanks Peter!! (Yes they told us the SL2-S is still more dedicated for video too FYI so you’ve got it covered) 👍🏻
Thanks for the review. I was eager to see if any other brands copied the Nikon Zf eye detection in manual focus mode. You didn't mention it so maybe it is not on the Leica yet.
Same, disappointed this useful technology is not implemented in SL3
Thanks Thomas, I didn't notice it but it sounds like it could be a firmware thing so maybe it gets added in the future.
I saw the new SL3 last night. It is impressive.
The 60 MP sensor allows greater cropping potential, which can be handy. Compared to my SL2, I liked the new ON/OFF button, multifunction hand grip, transparent info bars (if desired), nicer fonts, tilt-able rear LCD screen, the three function buttons moved to the right of the rear LCD panel, and the additional rotating wheel at the top left. It’s shedding some weight and girth is a plus.
Matt, have you asked Leica to sell you an EVF eye cup for your SL?
Thanks John, yes some nice improvements for sure. I will try to get my VF fixed yes. Just need to find time.
The oddest thing about this video really is the Leica logos on the Rovers instead of G550's. Great info as usual Matt
Haha thanks Timothy!
I bought the new DC SL6C Dummy Batteries and with the Anker 87w 2600K Power Delivery Bank My SL2-S and Q3 runs for hours. Love them both and hoping I won't have to wait long for the SL3. Panasonic has registered three new cameras with Phase Detect should be the replacements to the S1, S1H & S1R for alternative choices. I do own the S5II & S5IIX and with their menu systems are great but I love the Leica Stream Menu System better. Love Your videos and wondering do You use a GoPro or iPhone for the closeups of the cameras? Cheers!
Thanks! Newer iPhone (13) for close ups. GoPro for wides (not this video)
I’d love an SL3, but I could make do with CL2 with the sensor from the SL2-S and 25fps video.
Yes!
That 90 mm Summicron-SL is a wonderful lens. Sadly, I sold mine because I no longer do portrait photography. I know the 90 mm focal length can be used for a lot of things other than portraits, but that was my main justification for having a £4,000 lens. I probably won't buy an SL3 because I'm happy with my SL2-s, but should Leica deign to produce an SL3-s, I will be sorely tempted.
Edit: P.S. I'm so happy your dedication to the brand is recognised by Leica. Great review.
Thanks! Yes excellent lens. Yes I’m pretty sure a SL3-s will come!
Great video. Reminds me of the heyday of music journalist junkets (long gone). Got to start saving for the SL3
Thanks! Yes most of the group were well known journalists in the industry.. + me!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom With 32,0000 subscribers, I would say you are pretty well known. BTW Enjoyed our session and am getting better results with the Sigma 90. Thanks
On my EOS R5 I RAW to the CF Express and JPG to the SD. Works wonderfully, especially if I am just shooting Marketplace pics or having fun. I don't video on this rig, but like than I can do a fairly high local bit rate if it becomes a thing for me.
Thanks Scott, that's a good tip for anyone shooting both formats like you, thanks!
Awesome! Wouldn't mind this being a bit hit, and people subsequently dumping SL2s on the used market ha. For me the ISO dial stands out, major improvement in ergonomics. And yes, my knees would also sometimes appreciate the tilting screen haha.
Hey Thomas, thanks! Yes I wouldn't mind the SL2-S at some point too :)
Nice! Side note, not sure why they don’t see the desire for a fully articulating back screen. The tilt is minimally useful at best
I asked the same at the launch. They said (1) most people requested this (2) it's stronger (3) it's slimmer (4) it was possible to still add weather sealing
Great Matt❤ we deserved 👏
Thank you!
Beautiful! Can you give us raw files free download next time, ill just buy your presets
Thanks, nice idea. Yes perhaps I can look to do that in the future if the demand is there.
Great video, I have the SL. Half way through, my brain exploded...
Ha thanks Ronald. Yes great cameras!
If this were any other brand I would go “great now the sl2 will be dirt cheap!” I’m sure there will be more people trying to offload them in the near future so I guess I’ll be on the lookout
yes for sure, I think it will be a great time to look at SL2 deals soon
I wanted to see Leica come out with an reduce pixel SL-3 S but nothing yet. So I bought a 24mp Lumix S5mii X which adds Phase Detect and
a lot of video features. With the Lumix 20-60mm lens Vlog is possible with this Full Frame camera
Great, I did the same with the S5 before getting the SL. SL3S will come for video I’m sure.
did you do your presets for the S5 or did the SL ones work well on it?
@@user-du9qp3fe6r I made specific SL3 presets for this video but yes I have S5 presets for that camera too.
yeah the SL3 is a ton of MP I don"t need, besides doesn't that kill high ISO performance with more digital
noise ?@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
Nice camera, but I would have preferred a flush LCD design, similar to what's seen in the SL. The eyepiece could have been redesigned as well, since it's not very robust. Switches are better than power buttons, and brass is superior to aluminum, especially if the camera is used extensively. I've heard more than once that the camera might not eject the battery properly after a fall, indicating that the mechanism, although nice, should be more robust. It would also be interesting to see a comparison of the native image outputs from the SL, SL2, and SL3. Overall, I prefer the aesthetics of the 601.
Thanks, yes multiple people have said they prefer the classic 601 styling.
Great Vid Matt. Whenever I am looking for some non BS Leica info I turn to your vids as they are detailed and honest. Will you be investing in an SL3? I would love to see a side by side real world comparison with the SL2 with sample images. I have always had M’s but I get my new SL3 tomorrow. Cant wait. Thanks again.
Thank you! I won’t as the SL dies what I need (plus my main interest is film). You’ll love the camera, it’s very good!
And so, finally, Matt Osborne ascends to the Leica glitterati! Congrats!
Haha thanks! It was nice to be noticed after all these years of Leica reviewing!
Did you happen to test AF performance between the 90mm APO and one of the newer non APO crons? I've noticed quite a difference in AF accuracy and performance especially in low light. I feel the 35 and 50 SL Crons perform AF very quickly where as the APO lenses seem to be a lot slower especially when challenged with low light. Have you had the same experience?
Hi i've not seen this but I only used the 35 and 90 shown in the video. I normally prefer M lenses. (I imagine there is some differences between lenses and if you are comparing the Leica-Lumix lenses to pure Leica lenses they will vary as the newer 35 & 50 kit lenses are copies of the Lumix 5018 & 35mm (in a metal barrel). They are lighter too so likely also easier to focus faster.
😁 Wow. First few seconds I was thinking "Youtubin' pays really well" Not your bedroom though.
Great vid.
Haha, it couldn't be more opposite to my actual bedroom - single bed, piles of cameras/ boxes/ bikes.. lol. I sleep in the box room and use the open plan room as the studio.
Sorry, BUT the Defender is the cool car out there ;-) ... It's like using a 'M' ... all manual, no whistles and bells... Like the Leica Defenders ...
Yes they looked great lined up with the logo. Great car for Scotland!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom :-) not only for Scotland ;-) Cheers Axel
I purchased the original Leica SL, partly ecause of you. It was the best decission ever. I also tried the SL2-S and I ddint like the color science. Did you have the opportunity of comparing the Sl with the SL 3 in regards to color science tones and all that? Were you impressed by the colors produced by the SL3 ? Thank you in advance
Thanks! Yes older Leica cameras have a different look. New Leica have the magenta cast look, SL3 the same as the M11 etc. You can fix in post with presets (to taste). You saw the side by side photo test in this video and those photos looked a similar colour from memory.
Nice video Matt. Already saw Math from Switserland video. He was invited at the Leica factory. The SL3 is completely made in Germany not in Portugal. I asked him to try the SL3 with M lenses in a future video cause he has all of them.
The SL3 should be smaller like the rumours said. Did you notice that or is it not true. Here in NL the price is 6800 euro. Good price imo.
I like the new standby mode too.
Are you buying ?
Anyways thanks for sharing.
Thanks Rob, yes as I understand there was the Germany meet and the UK one for Europe. Kai and a few others went to the Germany one too. Yes it's smaller and lighter, you can see it in on clip next to my SL. Yes great price vs. M11 (same sensor, same photos). No I'm happy with my SL (I'm more into film at the moment). Cheers
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Great but I would have loved you putting your Voigtlander lenses on the SL3 and show the results.
Next week I am going to play with a SL3 at my Camerashop
Have a nice weekend
I’m looking forward to maybe getting a cheap SL soon! I honestly don’t need most of the improvements of the 2 2S and 3 and would rather blow my money on more lenses
Right, yes I love my SL and don't look to upgrade. SL is the best value Leica IMO.
THanks Matt, ask them to release a Monochrome SL.......PLEASE
Thanks! I did mention it and I'm sure one will follow (same sensor as M11M)
great video Matt, amazing camera , but way over priced, maybe i will buy one in ten years time when i can afford one.........
Thanks. I’m happy with my SL. Those are amazing value.
Congrats on the invite that’s quite some feat
Struggling to work out why I’d upgrade from the SL2-S to be honest for my wedding work
I don’t need 60mp, I don’t want a flip screen and whilst the AF could be good I really don’t think it’s up to par with the Sony A9 original. Plus at £6k , with no charger ,no battery charger and new cards it’s going to be a £7k + spend…
The SL2-S is in its own league. I wonder what the SL3-S will be like!
Thanks! Yes it was very nice to get invited. Yes the SL2-S is closest to my needs too (as I could use the video for YT) and 24MP is plenty.
Note too, the SL3 is not trying to complete with the SL2-S only the SL2.
Personally, i do think 60 MP is simply overkill. Think about the filesizes, and at the end, it's just the 36x24mm Sensor... and not every lens could resolve so much resolution, optical flaws do show more, than with a 24 MP Sensor.🙂 This Megapixel war goes on since the 1st DSLRs...otherwise, fine DSLM for the wealthy.
Yes 24MP is all I need too. Happy with my SL + film!
So Matt, you say people were crying out for improved autofocus. Do you think the autofocus on the SL2 was poor? Would it stack up with say, the Nikon range of similar age such as the Z7ii?
Hi David, I’m not the best person to ask as I shoot MF 99% and I’ve not used other brands that much BUT I think most agree that previous model AF works but it’s not super fast eye detect style AF. (It’s the old contrast detect). SL3 is starting to getting closer to other brands AF.
Eyecap seems to obstruct a lot of the screen when it's flipped out
I didn’t notice in “real life” but I see your concern
Just realized that the SL looks way more like one unit than the SL3.
SL rocks! I'm not tempted to upgrade to SL3
Nice video Matt. I think I will stick with my “SL3 mini” with 28mm fixed lens.
Thanks Dick, I appreciate you stopping by. Yes this is a bigger setup for sure (and I don't think you need the rain proofing where you are now) ;)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComYes, the IP52 for the Q3 will do just fine. (Actually just raining here today on the Costa del Sol…)
I'm hoping you do a new video like the one ypu did a few months ago comparin ALL SL cameras... (this one was great)
Thanks, I'm writing a blog post that will cover most of the basics - MrLeica.com
I can see that the SL3 is a good camera, but if I want the SL3, I would rather go Nikon for more value and opportunity in lens. From a user standpoint, would you upgrade to the SL3 or go the m11 route?
I would buy Leica because Leica is iconic and original, such as the m series. I would rather go Nikon zf than sl3.
Yes, tough question as I don’t need 60MP. I’d go black M11 for the low weight and small M size to aim to use it as a RF and without an EVF. I bought my M10 for this but love my SL for portrait sessions.
Hi Matt,
Please tell me there is a monochrome version on the way!
Ha I did ask but they couldn't tell me ofc. Now it's the same sensor as the M11/Q3 I would expect one.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Unless they didn't say no...🤞
ER, you mean the latest Panasonic surely..... nice review Matt.
The good news is it feels like a Leica and shoots like a Leica so that's the key. (I own Lumix S5 too but never pick it up because.. it feels like a Lumix!). HUGE DIFFERENCE :) ..and VF is crap! :)
The L lenses are all still too big so I’d be using my M lenses, in which case I may as well just stay with my M11. If they had smaller L lenses I might change my mind.
Hi Ian, if you use the EVF on the M11 most of the time I would get a SL series for a far better experience (I own the M10 so sit in both camps), but for a small setup and RF use/ zone focusing the M system is king. (Hence I use both for difference tasks now).
That looked like a fun presentation: I've seen worse! Seems like a very nice camera to use indeed.
Thanks, yes I felt very lucky to be invited. Nice camera too!
📸 The stuff that DREAMS are made of & if you don’t have a dream how can you make it come true.
Like a good ROLEX watch a LEICA SL3 is a good investment and wonderful camera to have as a family heirloom to hand down to the next generation of photographer filmmaker.
I now know what I am working towards and saving up for.✌🏻😎🇦🇺
Thanks! Yes Leica cameras are definitely something to treasure and enjoy.
Servus Matt✌
Video natürlich ansprechend Präsentiert, das muss man Dir lassen👌 Wäre mir definitiv zu groß vom Body her, ehrlich gesagt möcht ich auch nicht mehr zu großen Teilen, brauch ich auch nicht Nerds und die es professionelle Arbeiten brauch klar. Die technische Intuition entwickelt sich stetig weiter und bei Leica zur SL3 ein schwenkbares Display schon ein kleines Wunder😁😁
Lg Anderl
Thanks!
And you also can use the Panasonic lenses.
Yes! and Sigma (the DG DN lenses are good)
Interesting, SL3 looks actually larger than 601. I must say, it is probably not worth the upgrade IMO. Designwise, I must say original SL is so much cleaner look thank SL2 and SL3
Thanks Paul, yes I’m still happy with my old SL!
So basically the auto focus on medium format Fuji GFX100-2 works better than ff SL3…
I've not tried GFX cameras but perhaps. I know the Hassy X2D AF is poor so the SL3 will beat that (having used both)
Dream camera.
It is nice! (The old SL is great value if you're on a budget. That's still my choice).
One thing worth mentioning: the prices of secondhand SL2's should come down a bit.
Right! (Although this is going to replace the SL2 NOT the SL2-S FYI)
I must admit, Matt, that you had me at "textured bottom". I want one of those. 😁
I'd have expected some "my wife has" replies to this comment
Ha thanks Chris, I thought that might amuse a few people :)
I am deciding between SL2 sliver which is around $3k now and the much more expensive SL3. Do you like the straight out of camera color of SL3? I heard the color of SL is the best and then SL2. I am slightly afraid that the SL3 photos I have seen so far looks like the ones from Sony A7RV which is not a good thing IMO and may require some editing.
Hi, yes the SL3 colours are like the M11 colours. More magenta. You can fix with a preset if shooting RAW. Yes most agree that the first SL has the best colours. If you don't need the fancy AF and tilt screen get the SL2.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks for the detailed replies! I used AF for people and animals pretty often on my Sony before I sold it. I don’t miss it too much so I will go with the SL2 then! I still want the convince of USBC charging which is why I’m not getting the SL.
Always so useful, but it feels like you’ve sold out to the Leica Behemoth.. I loved when you criticized the overly high prices of Leica and offered less expensive alternatives. And valued older generations like the SL 601.
So says the owner of a new Leica 35 Summilux FLE II. The nerve!
Thanks and no don’t worry I’m still the same! Still on my old SL with broken finder cup!
So far the number one negative trend for me is the battery life. Every review I have seen and read seems to be the low life of the new battery. I have 4 batteries for my SL2S and Q2 and I know I can't use those to get the full potential of the SL3 so having to buy the new batteries and multiple ones is frustrating. I do like the new accessory of the USBC coupler but that will still require an outside power source. I really want to buy this camera but so far I'm leaning toward waiting for the next generation. Maybe SL3S???
I think the SL3 will work fine with your batteries, it's only some specifics that might work slower with older batteries (as I understand). I think the battery is likely similar to any modern mirrorless camera that uses AF lenses. They last forever with M lenses.
We have a saying in the Persian language, it goes, The Crow wanted to walk like a Rock Partridge. In the effort, it forgot to walk like a Crow. They hae rui d tne beautiful ergonomics and simple but highly instinctive functionality of the SL to come up with something that is neither a Leica nor a Nikon Z9 or even a Sony A1. Why? I am not usually critical of Leica, perhaps due to the fact that their M line of cameras is still based on trend that the family owned business chose, and not a corporation. Just look at that stupid dial on the top, and the positioning of the original buttons. Just because the ' people ' want it, does not mean it is the right thing to implement in an otherwise iconic camera.
Thanks, yes I guess it's difficult. Do they give what people want and add lots of things in a hope to please, or risk everything (like the SL) and make what they deem to be a great camera. It's a business at the end but if it helps them fund the brand as a whole it's still a good thing. We can pick the cameras that suit us.
If I were in the market for any SL, it would be the SL2s. I don't need anything that the SL2s does not have. There is a question about implementing the IBIS with none-Leica adapters and lenses, but I have not read or heard arguments to clear this up as yet. I like yourself, have quite a few vintage Leica and non Leica M mount lenses so a working IBIS is important to me due to my physical condition. @@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
It's a strong man who can turn down a dram of Glenfarclas. They've done well to lose weight while adding features, but I think it is still too heavy for me. I enjoyed everything about the SL2 apart from the weight, and still wish I had kept my CL, and belong to the wish they had upgraded it brigade.
Thanks, yes I'll be honest I nearly buckled to the peer pressure of the situation but I thought, no I'm old enough now to not follow the crowd and politely decline. Yes the CL is still awesome. See the next video/ video soon as I was using it in Poland.
Hey Matt, did you meet Chris Frost in this event?
Yes! I recognised his voice before I recognised him :). It was us 2 from YT and the rest were journalists.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaComawesome you guys rock in both your unique styles of presentation
I'd rather prefer the M11-P over the SL3.
The SL3 is not a pretty tool, it even lacks standards like a built-in GPS-module and has no internal memory. I simply don't want to add another stupid card format for no good reason as the SL3 is still a super slow camera.
The M11-P is the more advanced and thought out camera in that price range.
Thanks, yes M lovers will stick with that format. Both have their place but M's will age better I think.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I love the SL (Typ 601) but the SL2 as well as the SL3 are not a worthy upgrade to it in my opinion.
The SL3 is very limited for what it offers, and only having 1 CFExpress B card slot limits professional use.
@@RealCelticGamer Right, it should have two SD card slots for professional use.
Compare with the Nikon Z8. Some similar features- except that the Nikon gives ability for AF with M lenses
The downside to the Z8 is that it is predominantly made of plastic, if one was to use any of the SL series cameras as a hammer on the Z8 the Z8 would get pulverised in seconds; it is the worst mistake Nikon did with the Z8 compromise on it's build quality, therefore it is definitely not a baby Z9.
Yes I think the Nikon Z cameras offer better AF options but it's improved over previous Leica.
I don't know the Z camera so well but it sounds like they don't make them like they used to. My Nikon F5 would easily double as a hammer :)
Rather have the Defender any day over those phallus symbols
Ha yes it was nice to go off road in the Defenders. What you need in the Highlands for sure!
Matt, when shooting at iso over 6400 is the SL3 significantly, moderately, slightly better than the SL2?
If you saw my SL-SL2-SL2S video you'll see the Sl2 isn't great at low light. Compare the SL vs SL2 in that video then see this video again and it should be easily 1+ stops better (2+ stops I would guess if use 18MP)
I’ve watched almost all your videos over the last few years😊
Mr Leica, can you do a video on how to stay so leaned and ripped ?
Lol, where did you see me? Eat clean, exercise a lot, no beer :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom I saw you in your video you posted. For someone born in 1978 looking good shape!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom what do you eat and how often do you work out
looks like another hit from Leica.
Yes they've done a great job I think. Incremental improvements to an already great system.
Nice hotel!
Thanks, yes a nice surprise to be invited!
I suppose when you call yourself Mr Leica you better get an invite to play with a new Leica product 😂.
Ha it took 11 years of blogging and more recently YouTubing but yes eventually I got my first invite. It was nice to get acknowledged. :)
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Well deserved Matt 👏
Matt : will this higher count sensor 65 mp's .... be a problem with our older Leica M lenses like my DR Summicron , or my APO / ASPH Summicron 90mm F2 ?
I also use Voightlander glass and adapt certain M42 German lenses. What are your thoughts Matt ?
Good question. I think not as I used the extra soft Steal Rim lens which they still sell new and that is much softer than a DR etc.
Just thinking about buying another £50 Olympus OM 2 body to add to the fleet and then THIS dammit! Luckily there is no way on earth I can afford this so safe for now......lol
Haha I'm in the same boat, I'm buying film gear currently too :)
original SL looks better
Silly thing too the old SL did not have the leather on the front. My sl2-s’s are like the SL3 and if you use them a lot the leather wears out because my fingernails rub against it
To get the leather replaced costs a fortune
The original SL would not have that issue
Indeed it is the coolest however I would buy the Sl2 over it and over the sl3
I do like the minimal design of the old SL.
I never thought of that. Good point!
Original SL looks more modern, Sl3 is more like an slr
When did you get a M11? I thought you were cheap?
I am cheap, I have the M10 as I found a great price. Not the M11.
😊
Thanks!
it's a glorified Panasonic . It should be a lot more cheaper than an m11.
If it helps it feels like a Leica. I own the S5 and SL. Totally different experience..I don’t use the S5
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom how's the pricing in London? is it the same level as the Hasselblad x2D? They basically cost the same in Asia.
How the other half live 🤣
Ha yes! It was nice to try it for a few days but I'm it's a bit too rich for my blood ha. :)
The new Af len tobig😢
Yes all SL lenses are bigger than M lenses
Slower than gfx100ii
Less mp
Same ball park price I guess
Same evf as sl2
Only Leica could call this an upgrade 😳
Thanks, I yes ew all like different systems. Some will prefer Nikon Z, some Hassy, some Fuji. I still like my SL. (If I can get a GFX to review at some point I can give my opinion as to how they compare in real use). I've never used a better finder as the SL2/SL3/SL2S so would be interesting to try a Fuji.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom yeah I don’t have any love for any brand as they don’t care about bother us
Leica bringing out a new camera with the same evf is just lazy, yes it was ok but when 9.1mp is available then the sl3 should have that imo
A swing and a miss for me
You should get the gfx100ii it’s evf is beautiful and the only thing I dislike about my gfx100s is the evf isn’t up to standard
@@AnotherBoring43yearold thanks, yes it would be cool to try the GFX ..and fair point re. The EVF
Even more expensive than a Hasselblad X1DII
@@Adi-hj3nd no way 😬😬😬
Leica is going towards direction of Canikonpana, lost its soul, it is time to sell all my Leicas
I think Leica purists stick to M bodies (or film)
Absolutely true@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it!
Haha yes it was very nice to be invited!
"Textured bottom" Hahahahaha
Haha that tickled me too George. My childlike brain :)
Yeah theres a lot of money in those cases.. but Leica gets huge props and hours of free promotion on your channel.. and still you have to hand the camera back.... considering all the people who you have turned on to Leica, seems like the least they could do is give you a camera...
Thanks, very kind. It was nice to just be invited to a Leica event. My first!
I thought you only like film cameras 😂
Film cameras are my favourite 100% (I had a film camera with me) but it was nice to be invited to review the new SL3.
Nice you made it to the "happy few" Leica revieuers.... I hope you stay as neutral as always
Thanks Steve! Yes most were journalists. Ofc. Honest reviews .. I still like film and my old SL but the SL3 is great for those that need those features.
I guess I have to buy this now .. correct ? My name is : GAS ....
Haha, only if you want all the new stuff. I'm happy with me SL.