Being A Car Enthusiast In Italy Is Not Easy (1 Hour Super Special Vlog)
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00:00 Start
00:11 Stelvio Quadrifoglio vs Maserati Grecale
10:00 Airbnb Tour
11:50 Italian Rest Stops
15:11 Federico Sceriffo's Shop
32:33 Federica Levy's ND Miata
34:49 Living in Fear of Cops
43:11 ACE Offroad Shop
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Being a car enthusiast in Italy is such a pain. I have a 2011 Impreza STI, nothing THAT special, but I always get the attention of the Police or Carabinieri. And it’s stock. Also, it’s a 13 years old car and I still have to pay over 1000€ in taxes per year. I’m lucky enough to be able to afford (somewhat) the incredibly high cost of taxes, insurance and premium gasoline (over 2€ per liter) for this car, but there’s no much money left to do cool stuff to the car. Also, I’m worried about being pulled over and get in trouble if I do some nice mods to the car. Really, I’m upset because my interest and passion for cars is slowly going away. I literally have the car that I dreamed every single night when I was a child, but just because I live in Italy, I feel like I can’t enjoy it as much as I would love to do.
Is Switzerland better? You could try to move there,but again,for sure almost nobody would make such a life changing choice just for being a car enthusiast,I guess.I live in Italy as well,but I drive an almost stock car 😅
@@TopoIl12 From what I know Switzerland is even worse
@@DoselH well that's bad luck 😔
Sounds as bad as Australia wow
i have fiest st and they already treat me like a criminal during routine stops, i'm so fed up with them...
Larry, as an italian, THANK YOU SO Much, for showcasing our car scene/culture 😊, its not being showcased a lot, so this video its really special :)
Welcome to most of Europe. I'm Portuguese and there's a guy near me with an impounded Golf IV, because his replacement OEM shocks are orange (Koni brand).
They literally told him his car was modified because the color of the suspension. Car has stock height too. It's so bad that a CZcamsr got the community together and took it to court.
Yeah, it’s wild in Portugal too!
no wonder Italy and Portugal had the same stupid tax for cars above 2 liters
Don't quote me on this, but I think that here in Spain the replacements can be of any brand as long as the OEM ones are discontinued. So if the car is old, you have more freedom regarding this aspect. If it's not the case, then you can always homologate the change to make it legal. Is it not the same in Portugal?
@@Danteska90 I believe it is the same, as long as the replacements have the same specs as OEM. And these ones did. If they don't, it can't be sold legally as replacement OEM parts.
Even the head of Koni sales was pissed of because it was hurting they sales, after the videos took off on youtube, a lot of mechanics stopped using their shocks with fear of having client's cars failed in the yearly inspection.
That's why they took it to court, and as far as I know, they already have the car on the road after only two months, after the guy fought for 3 years alone with no results.
This whole thing started on a traffic stop, and the police follow a very old sort of guideline manual for traffic stops. In that very manual it says clear as day that if the shocks and/or springs are colored then it's modified (And a some more bs like that) .
There are people who have access to this manual that confirmed it, even with photos.
Then there's another whole thing with the inspection where they failed his car for no reason (Even the radio was not safe xD) and it snowballed from there until court basically. Bit of a long story.
Even tho they have the car on the road now, they still want to continue the fight on court so this sort of thing stops happening.
@@Fabio4Coelho it's quite the story, but seems weird to me. I follow several Portuguese pages and I have been here in several car events with people from there who have more taste and passion than most of the Spaniards, and if it were like you say, half the country would be in jail. The first Eurocrew in 2016 had about 20 cars coming from portugal and I was amazed by the quality of the modifications, and every year cars have continued to come from there...
I feel the pain of my italian neighbor, same problem in France...
Also in Spain
C'est clair, même avec une petite plaque d'immatriculation ou un catback on peut nous arrêter
Shit governments tell native born they can't do anything, then import africans to destroy everything. Europe is fooked
Baguette
@@5zu-der3 ta gueule ?
In Italy they do everything they can to make you hate cars! Taxes are insane, even for cheap cars. We have to pay an annual "bollo" tax based on the car's KW, and the ownership transfer fees are probably the highest in the world. A few years ago, a "technical" government introduced the "superbollo": if your car has more than 250 horsepower, the annual tax increases exponentially for each additional HP regardless of the value of the car. The roads are disaster, full of potholes. Car tuning are almost always forbidden, except for minor changes. Basically, only rich people can really enjoy their cars, since they don't have to worry about all these costs and problems.
I want to put on perspective the ownership transfer fee: a 100 CV (75 kW) car will require that you pay around ~520€, so even if you decide to give me the car for free i still need to pay the fee. I don't even know how is this thing still considered legal, no politician has ever made an effort to change this, nobody does anything. We just suck it up and go about our pathetic life
We have it so easy in the USA! Here I am swapping different car bodies, Frankenstein builds, etc…
You are soo furtunate bro, in Italy law do not allow to modify cars without the need to do omologation again (almost impossible task for an enthusiast) and this is the reason tuning cars is soo a niche here, but there are a lot of sleepers out there😁
Do you need to tell your insurance or go for inspections after a really heavy modification like that?
Man I'm jealous rn😭
Same in Germany. Your car can pass all checks and be 100% legal but if some cop is bored he can say it needs to be checked again and you're not allowed to drive it until it's checked again. The best thing, you have to pay for everything, even if everything is legal. Car culture in Germany is dying slowly and it's all planned
Karma regelt das. Jeder Staatist/Erpresser; Wegelagerer, jeder Politdarsteller, der echte Menschen unterdrückt, zu irgendwas zwingt oder erpresst, wird dafür bezahlen; eines Tages.
Same for Belgium. Only our roads are badly maintained too. Also in the neighborhood I live with a lowered car you can only enter my neighborhood through 2 of the 4 streets since 2 have speedbumps that are very steep. To the point a stock VW golf could scrape
@@indy5280Not to mention the insane amount of traffic cameras and "trajectcontroles" everywhere in flanders.
@@kennytheamazing So true. I think most traffic lights near me have it and the second I enter the highway I enter a traject control. The road leading up to the highway is in very bad condition too
That's not correct.
The Polizei can't say, not allowed to drive.
Only, when there is a major safety problem with your car, that influence other participans.
And what do you mean, it's all on porpuse ?
Larry is the only guy that can bring us jdm cars toured in an Italian accent, this for me just brings home how powerful some of these cars are! Big love from the UK!
I'm from Italy and own an Alfa Romeo Giulietta. The only thing I did was slightly modify the ECU just to get from 105 to 120 hp, changed rear bumper and mounted bigger wheels, and I am almost borderline illegal (bumper and wheels are legal only because they are already omologated by Fiat and made especially for that car). In car culture our country is a total joke, the trick to not get caught in a modified car every time by police is just don't making it too obvious.
I used to drive my father's Lamborghini in the early 80's and then my own C4 Corvette with a Greenwood bodykit in the early 90's around northern Rome and every time I was out either the Carabinieri or the Polizia Stradale would pull me over. Showing them the engine and interior and being as friendly as possible always made a difference at a time before cell phones and the internet existed.
Drink a shot everytime Larry says "very Italian". New game, it's much much fun.
very Italian
Bro, I am an Italian Policeman and i guaratee you that as in every country you can find policemen that are Enthusiasts like you and ones that are not.
Personally I hate the electriric/ecologic way that our country has taken, so I just enjoy the tuned cars I stop everyday on the road. But everything has a limit, for everything you must consider what are you doing and why you doing it.
La stimo molto per quello che ha scritto, buon lavoro Agente.
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@@Alberto.__. La ringrazio! Alla fine possiamo girarla come vogliamo, ma siamo tutti sulla stessa barca!
Thats a fine pretty Italian lady, WAUW!
Try being a car enthusiast in turkey where DURING PURCHASE cars up to 1.6L displacement are taxed at 116%, 1.6L-2.0L at 200% and above 2.0L at 284% (not a joke). Imagine purchasing a 2.5L car for 30000$ and having to pay 85200$ IN TAXES ON TOP OF IT. This country is a nightmare.
Nah you guys literally pay a G80 M3 price for a 1.6L G20 320i wtf is that
@@legoldspy6851 due to the insane tax rates people try to save money by buying used cars, which increases demand which causes the used cars to be also 5-10x the price they are in regular countries. the standard 520d's with 250k+ km on the clock go for 25k$.. 300k+ km 2005 vtec civics 15k.. 350k+ km fucking getz going for 10k.. i want to kill myself. this is possibly the worst country you could be born in to be a car enthusiast.
Basically the same taxation in India. Protectionist taxes but little to no local automotive industry to protect.
That Masarati is really nice! They are sister companies but its giving me Ferrari Purosangue vibes!
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Cool, blessings to Italy from Puerto Rico 📸✨🇵🇷
Love this Italian tour and with Dino everything is better 👌👌
Excellent as always, Simona is amazing 🤩
starts the video casually w a stelvio quad in the back 😩😩😩
Great video Larry I love your work. So inspiring.
Ae86 are more rare than Evo in Italy, I think there's like 15-16 86 in the whole country
Italy's car culture is awesome 👍🏻
As a guy who SR swapped my US Zenki over a decade ago, I am shocked LHD variants even existed. Bless ur heart @ Larry Chen
I've long been surprised why US buyers completely ignore/don't know about the European market when they go looking for Japanese cars. I could understand it 30 years ago before the internet, but not today when the info is a search engine away. US buyers have a whole continent of LHD Japanese options out there. Oh and they're generally cheaper than similar RHD models coming from Japan and cheaper than the US market too.
Potato from the exhaust, amazing, I love it
Thank you for video brother 🖤🇯🇵
love it guys
14:27: Italian internet has a weak stream at the urinal
35:00 and 36:25 - This is amazing. I think that I saw one of the two in February on a highway north of Milan. Odd that it was the first I'd ever seen _anywhere_ and here it is in my CZcams feed....
I guess they were shooting the video around Milan or somewhere in north Italy because I have also met that grey Supra on the Tangenziale Ovest a year ago
What an awesome episode, Frederico garage is just crazy 😅😊😊
The videos in the past month or two..👌
it’s actually not the same engine, probably shares some parts but the nettuno is the new MC20 engine, quite a bit different from the alfa’s California T V8 turned V6
Isn't the Nettuno v6 a newer gen v6 built by Stellantis? The Alfa v6 is the Ferrari-derived one.
Yes
the only real difference is the new head
Wow, I traveled all the way to Turin to see Larry, only to find out he stayed at a villa near Mozzate, my hometown 😭😂
I feel you in Hungary its even worse you cannot even modify your car to begin with.
In Italy we declared war against creativity
38:12 Shame the cops are being weird about gearheads in a country that has done so much for the automobile.
Also, the U.S. _does_ have quite a lot of history with Alfa Romeo. It was, after all, a Giulia GTA that won the very first Trans-Am race, and the respect Alfa garnered back in the day hasn't worn off if you ask the old heads around here. The problem nowadays is that Alfa Romeo's reputation for......suspect reliability in the U.S. market has gradually worn away at their ability to sell cars here. I'm sure more than a few enthusiasts went and bought Giulia Quadrifoglios, but there is a good reason most of those types just grab M3s or something. This, coming from someone who ADORES the Giulia, even in non-QV form.
I love the Nissan Patrol it reminds me of the Mitsubishi Sport body on frame
Larry Chen top❤
Beautiful country side home....
Man those 86's are just awesome
In DFW, Tx, I've actually seen way more Stelvio's than Maserati's. But, that's here in TX. Ohhhh, Simona was flirtin with you!!! 🤣🤣
I think the Grecale has Maserati new engine called Nettuno. It's not the same engine as the Stelvio QV
Yess
Cars, shops, food, beautiful women - this episode had it all. Not bad for a "work trip". 😎🤟
I would love to see a video like this in Spain as well. Showing the car scene, car culture, people's struggles with cars, cops, etc. Kinda how your videos on Hagerty's channel are.
man what a trip thanks for sharing the adventures , it just make me so upset that veriants of the japanese cars we didnt get where aveiliable in other parts of the world but not the US dammm
Great stuff! What's your outro music?
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Being a car enthusiast in italy kinda sucks but the roads make it worth it even though they aren't always in good condition.....
Driving a classic car cops are usually friendly if i show them around it😂
I love potato sounds😊
Dino is going to give a run for the money Larry
Think he’s coming on strong on CZcams
Think it’s the white rimmed glasses
Simona is a keeper for sure
FIAT stands for “Fix it again Tony”. And Fiat owns everything in Italy…
Fiat isn't italian anymore...
Stellantis has everything since 2020
Ok. So everyone Larry meets around the world are such huge fans of him and his work.
She said that she was up at 3am! I am also glad Fredirico was not giving the tour....!!!
Being a car enthusiast in Italy is such a pain in the neck. You just can't do anything with your car. You wanna modify the lights? Cops can pull you over. Wanna lower your ride height? Not exactly viable due to how many holes there are on any road, and cops WILL pull you over. Wanna engine swap? Yeah, in your dreams.
I have a 1.9 SDI Polo 9n that I'd like to engine swap with the TDI but that's not legal, so yeah.
I think we should ban bans on modifications...
Aloha Larry I’m visiting Portugal now and the roads are wild but sadly it feels the same here seems like nobody really modifies cars
I see rx7 fc going for 30 thousand euros crazy expensive for jdm cars but there is a drift track I’m going
To check out seems the e46 is the car to drive over here
We love modified cars in Portugal. The police and laws don't. It's literal ilegal to change a radio on a car here. That's how stupid our laws are here regarding car modifications.
We can legalize a few things but it's a lot of money.
@@dinisfigueira9918aye brah how’s it! Yeah from what I’ve seen every car is silent the loudest thing is a stock tuk tuk but even those have EV’s too!
I have a shit box ae86 I could not imagine making crazy noise out here pissing off all the people with a no horse power shitbox screaming!
Thanks
Umm I wish I met a woman like this in the U.S. I knew it was real when she referred to the car as a “she” that’s a true car enthusiast lol ❤
in italian you refer to cars as "she" by default since there isn't a genderless option like "it", so you will basically always hear italians speaking in english refer to cars as "she"
@@vmr6666 Thank you for that:). I grew up around cars and my dad always referred to them as ladies. I just don’t hear it much nowadays in the states.
Fun fact, the automobile originally had a male gender in Italian but in the 1920s famous poet D'Annunzio gave it a female connotation due to its grace and agility (also its obedience, but let's ignore that)
i'm a huge jdm fan and i'm italian but japanese cars here are basically unaffordable unless you have some privileges or you work hard and give everything to cars but for being able to afford a simple S15 you need at least 5-6 years of work with the average salary, counting that the S15 went from 20K in 2018 to 35/40ish K it takes a lot of sacrifices to own one, i still have my first car after many years and i have too choose between owning a house or owning a car
Alberto Naska has a big enough youtube channel around his racing . He Italian and has an English channel too just started it .
I'll tell you something man: even authorities love tuning in some way😂 i know a dude who's working for this special kind of policemen, the Guardia di Finanza, and has a tuned car😂😂
no please don't steal our turbo silvias!!!
No, wait, maybe you can get all the ca18det you want :D
The situation in Italy is way worse than Larry said "the police seems like doesn't care", the problem is that the police/carabinieri don't know shit about cars, they can see an open hood and check the engine, even if you have a swap with evident parts modified most of the times they can't tell but they'll make sure to give you a ticket on something else that they can be "sure" of not being right.
I'll explain myself better, in Italy an officer can't issue a ticket on Doubts or because he thinks the car is Suspicious, they have to be SURE that something is wrong, so they write tickets in what they think it's sure isn't right even if the laws makes them legal, a good example are the Strut Bars, that have been made Legal in 2010 if bolted to the stock Coilovers attachment points, (if welded you can get the car impounded), most of the officers don't know this or still think that those are illegal and they're surely going to issue a ticket or worse (funny thing is that you can get tickets or impound removed if you prove to an office called "Motorizzazione" that you're right).
The bad thing is that those events have been so much common (ticket issued when they shouldn't etc) that a big branch of tuners/car enthusiast, left the scene or stopped modifying cars because they got tired of this bad behaviour from the police officers, because even if you're right you're still losing time to have the tickets remove and etc... so in the end, other than all the things we said the last thing is a big plague.
Here in Italy, talking about JDM cars there's an iceberg to dive, most of the people that claim themselves JDM Cars Fans in Italy don't know shit about JDMs other than the most famous ones, if you ask one of these what a Verossa is, they wouldn't know😅 this makes the community a Copy/paste of other people builds and a somewhat limited variety of cars at a meet, I've been to JCM (Japanese Cars Meeting) the biggest Jap meet in Italy last year, and the entire parking lot was covered in EK Civics, mostly of them 1.4 D14s straight piped and on some shitty coilovers, yes there were some cool cars and some rare cars but 3/4 out of 90/100...
Perforza coi prezzi che hanno le giappo adesso chi le ha se le tiene in garage (come faccio io d'altronde)😅
@@krcrider4447 quindi ha senso per voi spendere decine di migliaia di euro per comprare un auto (solitamente) dai 20 ai 40 anni di età per tenerla in Garage? Non ha un cazzo di senso per me, ma proprio 0
@@settantahp8615 non ha senso rischiare di fare viaggi lunghi per andare ad eventi come il jcm se non hai un carrello. Quando hai un auto di 33 anni a ste cose ci pensi, dato che non puoi farla portare dal meccanico li vicino che se ci mette le mani fa pasticci
Beh ci sono giappo economiche anche qua, oppure dai nostri vicini. Io ho preso una Miata nb per 2800€ in Germania e lo importata per 1000€. Intendo montarci il volumetrico della Mini Cooper S che si trovano facilmente da noi e costano poco e al momento sto restaurando il ponte, sospensioni etc. Secondo me è più difficile e si parla meno che in America ma avere una giappo e definitivamente possibile. Anche Lexus is200 si trovano per 2-3k in Germania x esempio
@@krcrider4447 ho auto vecchie di 30/40 anni anch'io e ti assicuro che questi ragionamenti li fate solo voi, ok che i ricambi e un meccanico che le sappia riparare è più raro, però non è un viversi l'auto comprata se la sposti solo col carrello per andare agli eventi, poi il concetto di JDM in Italia è estremizzato all'inverosimile, pure le cazzo di Yaris TS o Corolla G6 sono arrivate a costare prezzi folli rispetto alle auto che sono.... (Valide eh, ma non da costare dai 3k a salire)
I know it might be strange, but maserati engine and the alfa engine are two different project. Basicly, alfa engine is a ferrari v8 without 2 cylinder and a different cranckshaft, the nettuno is a brand new engine made originally for the mc20 and have pre combustion chamber. They sound different becouse are different engine
Is there a Totem GT in front of the mx5? 😅
I am italian and I did not know either about the cam for the parking.
It depends...i have been to an island and I have seen gs 300s bmw and other cars racing....and I realized wait I havent seen a single police car on the island
aren't the engines in the stelvio and grecale different?
Yes they are totally different. Honestly, bad mistake from larry
it's true
Come to Norway
Uh oh, looks like BIG CROSSOVER got Larry in their pocket.
You should censor the license plates. This guys can get in trouble
Ah yes the dream, to watch dino and larry pee
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19:09 is the first drift car with radiator in the back
42:30 please don't steal them out of italy, all over europe there are 200sx s14s with sr20s!
He should have a sweepstakes for the e36
Nothing more Italian than driving a Maserati in Italy?
Amico mio… get the Fiat Panda in the city streets if you want the full experience
the styling of the Alfa is superior
3:04 It's not fine, your wheels and tyres still get messed up, you can bend your wheel and make a bubble on your tyre.
Italian has amazing his own made supercar but they hated tuner car from other nation. 😂😂
As an Italian, I can confirm
What happened to the star road video?
In the North, Police can be more strict. In the Center and South is way more relaxed. I have always had modified cars and never ever I had a complaint from an officer.
Waiting for Indonesian car culture 1 hours video edition 😂 happy ramadhan for u my muslim brother in around the world ❤
Actually those two cars have totally different engines. The Alfa one is developed by Ferrari, the Maserati's a totally new project, bc they needed something ready to be electrified, and the Alfa one wasn't.
mado che soggetto che c’è
just me or does the maserati grecale look like a ford puma
Prefer the Alpha all day long, much more handsome car by far.
I want to come to greece
That Mazerati has ford puma head lights. They depreciate the worst and older ones are so unreliable.
Sad that in most EU countries we pay taxes so police can bother us while they're bored. They should have 0 jurisdiction over modified cars, protect and serve my ass...
Amen Bruder!
If the Deuce is the quintessential American hot rod, the Ford Pop is the definitive British one, but what’s the quintessential Italian hot rod?
Fiat 500
@@guidoinvernizzi1795 it’s an answer that I expected, so how are they rodding them? What’s the most common engine swap for the Fiat 500?
@@chrishenniker5944 here the engine swap was not popular in the past: it was popular to work upgrading the original engine. This is why in place like emilia Romagna there are a lot of shops with high knowledge about engines. Swapping an engine is easy, built a race engine from the ground up is hard. They gain experiences from the rally cars, where is not possible to swap the engine. About fiat 500, the most popular mod is the fiat 126 block (similar to 500 one) overbored to 700/800cc with fiat panda 30 head and weber alfa romeo carb. The race ones have 80hp
@@guidoinvernizzi1795 I bet you also get big block versions of the Fiat 126 block for street and strip use, taken out to 1 litre and supercharged. Just imagine a late sixties era street racer with exactly that, blowing the doors off a Ferrari at a late night illegal street race in Rome or Turin. The rich dude doesn’t even know what hit him. Low with a subtle rake and Cragars. Under the twee little derrière that makes up the engine lid is a Ported Panda 30 head, blower cam, Volkswagen cylinder barrels, stroker crank, Jahns pistons, Shorrock supercharger, SU carburettor, open headers, lightened flywheel. It might only be a little litre, but it packs more punch than a neat Sambucca.
Italy is the country of the best cars in the world (Ferrari, Lamborghini, Pagani, Maserati...) but if you change just one screw of the car you get destroyed by the police
-The perfect woman doesn't exist-
Nah fam, Stelvio Q and Grecale Trofeo share the same platform, but different engines. Stelvio Q has 2.9 V6 (basically a chopped up Ferrari V8), while Grecale has 3.0 V6.
I miss having my international drivers license
Yes, the tolls systems suck, too bad you couldn’t take them up to Germany for a sprint on the autobahn… it’s not THAT far from where you are, in US terms at least
come to Switzerland. makes Italy look like a walk in the park
Dear Larry, a Miata/MX-5 sold in Italy/Europe is not JDM, you know that right? ;-) You often call any Japanese car JDM, even if it was sold outside of Japan. We forgive you though ^_^
Next time lead with the woman Larry