SPIDER-MAN HOMECOMING, WONDER WOMAN, THE MUMMY
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Marc and Kevin deliver their thoughts on the news from the past weeks in the world of geek
01:00: Wonder Woman
09:30: The Mummy
17:30: Spider-Man Homecoming
21:00: Sony Clean Versions
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Y'ALL THOUGHT YOU COULD DO IT WITHOUT BRENDAN FRASER
COWAAAAAAARDS!!!
BRENDAN WHO ?
thought they could do it without the Fraisz!
Holy crap Marc, those're some amazing ideas. I'd pay to see those movies.
Creepy fan-service over actual stories? No, thanks.
Female Furies for main villains in the sequel!!
Oh shit, that's a great idea
"I SEE BUSH!"
-Kevin Smith, 2017
fuck guys, you have to get rid of those mics. the audio levels are all over the place
Okay, I got goosebumps imagining Diana investigating a meteor in Smallville, Kansas. (sorta makes the new comics feel a little weird though, lol)
I want an episode where Marc reviews every Kevin Smith movie. It'd be so awesome. You know he wouldn't be bias.
Oh no, the mics are back!
They are in dire need of an upgraded audio set up... this is vile, unbearable with headphones.
Jack Pepper They need some lessons on good Mic technique. or some room mics and a sound guy on the volumes...or some post sound editing. You'd think Kevin would know t his from making movies.
They've tried post editing before, what we ended up with was a heavily gated, over compressed mess. I guess he never normally has to deal with this side of it himself.
I actually didn't think the mummy was all that bad. I enjoyed it and so did the other three people watching it
matthew craig same. I think people's problems were that they were expecting something else, I see people moaning it's not a horror enough, but i knew it would be more action oriented as its clearly going to be like civil war, with monsters on both sides, not just humans vs monsters.
LOL...."I was sitting there saying yes Bitch yesssss!" Lmaoooooo
You know what would really help the Dark Universe? End Credit scene for the mummy: Luke Evans makes a house visit to Russell Crowe. because come on Dracula Untold is a pretty OK flick
Spiderman homecoming is going to be spectacular!!
Spectacularly formulaic, just like any other MCU movie.
At least it's not gonna be spectacularly shitty & offensive like the DCEU films lul
They are "offensive" if you are a brain-dead manchild.
Schuky9 Lex Luthor sexually shoves a Jolly Rancher into some dudes mouth.. & you fanboys blindly praise it & pretend like it's "dark and for adults" lmao. & yet, I'm the "brain-dead" one here? xD
Yeah, when something dumb and laughable as that "offends" you in a cash-grab Hollywood blockbuster, especially the one called "Batman V Superman".
stand alone super hero woman movie.. catwoman, elekra, supergirl as MB stated too.. come on just because they were bad doesnt mean they didnt exist.
i really liked blade and spawn for that matter.
revolver5678
Though they aren't technically superheroes, I'd add The Underworld series, The Resident Evil series, Tomb Raider, Red Sonja, and Vampirella to that list. The last 3 actually have comic runs.
NoCover Comics. the movies themselves are comicbook super hero movies. catwoman had powers and elekra literally cane back from the dead
Can you blame someone for erasing those movies from their memory?
+revolver5678
The movies I mentioned, were the ones I was referencing as not technically superheroes. (Except Vampirella, she is a comic book superhero.)
"POSER, Peter Parker has no mother!!" 😂😂😂I had to go back and watch that part like 5 times.
Banana, You had me in tears hahaha
Thanks so much for using the microphones too, boys, the sound is soooooo much better, and the dulcet tones of one Mark Bernardin help me ease into my evenings so much better as well :).
I'm watching this eating leftovers
I'm reading your comment while puking leftovers.
my nigga
Welcome back! I'm sorry Kevin, but I LOVE when you both make up new stories and movies. Sometimes, its better than the actual movies themselves.
Apparently Patty Jenkins has been trying to convince Warner Bros. to make a Wonder Woman movie since 2004. Which makes the success all that much sweeter no doubt.
I love you guys! You seem genuine your both funny and intelligent, I wish their were more men like you in the world... we really need more! 😊
WW also has the fact she is one of DC's A-list heroes. Ironman's movie, made him A-list and Cap is the only one you name who was even comes close to being as recognized as WW worldwide before their movie.
Good movies make money, not gender pandering, and her movie is good.
Also, why has everyone forgotten that the 90s were FULL of strong female characters?
We've all seen Spider-Man: Homecoming because of how much they have shown of the movie in those damn trailers.
CassandraTroy if so can you please tell me if there is a Gwen Easter egg or something? does vulture die or is captured? Harry or Norman Osborne? what is the end credit scene? is there multiple? doe we get a hit of his own suit besides the homemade one? please tell me I must of missed those in the trailers
1.) There is no Easter Bunny. 2.) Nobody ever stays dead in comics. 3.) They both suck. 4.) That's where they show the credits. 5.) Orgasms? i hope so. 6.) Pretty sure that was in the trailers. See my above comment. You're welcome.
+CassandraTroy
You just stated your fucking opinion, nothing that can be substantiated and considered fact.
Don't be a stupid fucktard.
You really need to chill out and get a sense of humor. Maybe see a psychiatrist too. So blocked!
What Wonder Woman had over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America: We had already seen her in another movie portrayed by the same actress 15 months earlier. Those other characters had never appeared on the big screen before.
Actually... I'd say that was an advantage for Iron Man, Cap and Thor.
Wonder Woman, as a general rule, is a far higher profile character than any of them.
she had no advantage given that everyone is on marvels dick.
***** don't kid yourself not all the marvel movies are good.
All three also 2nd tier heroes. WW should be one of the highest and looking at the daily numbers it's catching up on BvS at a decent rate.
Richter Aurelian so when marvel makes a movie it's cause there great but dc owes it's success with wonder woman to marvel?. so when captain marvel comes out its gonna be great cause of wonder woman?
I wouldn't mind if Universal made a fourth Mummy movie with Brendan Fraser that kickstarted the Dark Universe.
From what I've been reading, WW is kicking Mummy ass at the US box office, but in world wide numbers it's the other way around. I find it fascinating that everyone is so focused on a single market and not the total numbers.
Wonder Woman has another distinct advantage over Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America, those three films came out when the popularity of superhero/comic book films were almost in the toilet. Those three films were instrumental in revitalizing the superhero films.
Audiences are considerably more interested in superhero/comic book films after the success of the MCU Phase One and Two, the Dark Knight Trilogy, Marvel-branded films, and various TV offerings based on Marvel and DC characters.
I love Mark's idea for a Wonder Woman sequel set during the Vietnam war and her seeing Superman's ship crash.
Martian Manhunter would be perfect for a Cold War story. Not only with the shapeshifting/spy potential, but also because the 50s was a big time for aliens in B-movies and reports of abductions and whatnot.
The problem with the The Mummy marketing is that they relied WAY too heavily on Tom Cruise. I still give no idea what his character is supposed to be DOING in the film. Is he trying to get something? Get away from something? I have no idea. I just know he's in it. And a mummy is in it. That's it.
And they really blew it by making the Mummy a pretty woman. It's supposed to be a MONSTER movie. Men want to have sex with any woman who still has most of her face attached. That's not what a monster movie should be built on.
Marc should be in charge of DC.
They should have made Anne Rice's The Mummy Ramses The Dammed
I'm skeptical about Tom Holland as young Nathan Drake but hopefully he'll prove me wrong.
Dapper Skeleton Me too.
I think they should add one of the Advisory Notice at the beginning of their videos saying "Smoking a Joint while viewing STRONGLY ADVISED"
Daaaaamn I got goosebumps as well when Marc was pitching the second WW movie... OMG thats a great idea!
MAD MAD MAD props for the Electric Blue Theme Song!
Kevin don't forget Marvel and Jenkins were in talks to have her direct Thor: The Dark World. It didn't work out, but Marvel was definitely interested in having her do one of their superhero movies, it's too bad they couldn't agree on the script. This was six years ago.
I love the "my movie could be bad but at least it was not as expensive as yours"
mark makes such a good writer. you gotta get you dude a flick, kevin. seriously. every time he says this kind of movies, it's beautiful.
the one notification I wait for to pop up.
If i wrote a Mummy movie and they force me to cast Tom Cruise.. i would have Tom Cruise as the bad guy.
He was perfect in Tropic Thunder!
just saw the New Mummy movie and I liked it. also enjoyed the Mummy movies with Brandon Fraser
Spider Man 2 is still the best.
Bernardin, that is a great take on a Wonder Woman movie. It hits all the necessary story beats.
Felix Faust and Cheetah
Super-girl wasn't the only other movie. Does anyone remember the Electra movie?............no? Good
Alex Pollock,...... or the masterpiece that was Catwoman.
Also Catwoman in '04
Kevin watches Cowboy Bebop?! Wait Kevin watches anime?! No way!
Hey Kevin and Marc, new to your channel. wow, Marc has some pretty great ideas for Wonder Woman 2 -espionage/spy story in Cold War with Martian Manhunter -a la Bridge Of Spies. And we can probably write in a segment with Cheetah to satisfy Kevin -maybe hunting an artifact and cross path with Diana or even discover Paradise Island? And since this is a spy story, it would pay homage to how Steve Trevor has touched and affected Diana. And this would also explain why no one has seen Wonder Woman until she resurfaced in Batman Vs Superman. And I like Marc's idea about Diana being the DCU watcher -similar to Warren Ellis' Planetary, which is one of my favorite series in recent decades. It would also explain why she know what Bruce Wayne/Batman was doing during Bat v Sup. Kevin or Marc, don't either one of you know Geoff Johns? Get a meeting with Patty Jenkins! Love your ideas! I would go see that movie!
I live in Holland and indeed we have The Mummy advertisement everywhere
Awesome hearing that spider-man homecoming is sounding like the spider-man we have been waiting for.
I love Kevin and Marc together because they're like the two sides of me. This show just wouldn't be the same for me if either man were someone else.
"Even Adjusted?"
Actually, no. Adjusted for inflation Iron man did better by about 20 million.
So far as Disney getting a piece of Homecoming... kinda? Sony gets all the box office (minus what the theatres take, of course), but Marvel still owns all the merchandising rights... which will probably make them more than the box office will make Sony
Love you guys, keep em coming :)
They could have Wonder Woman be the bridge to the mystical side of the DCEU. If the sequel takes place after Justice League, they can have her go down to Tartarus to bring the Greek gods back to help battle Darkseid. Have her meet up with magical DC characters along the way like Etrigan, Constantine, Raven, etc.
Heck, they can do a prequel with Hippolyta and Antiope set in the ancient world, adventuring with old mystical characters like Black Adam when he was a hero, the Spectre, Dr. Fate, etc.
It's not really fair to compared Wonder Woman's huge successful release to Iron Man/Captain America/Thor's first movies. They released when most (besides 2 Spiderman movies +5 years old and 2 X-Men movies +6 years old) comic book movie without Batman in the title was pretty garbage. Then over the next 8 years Marvel built up the market for super hero movies. You can't compare movies releasing into a cold market vs a movie releasing 8 years later into a popular main stream market.
2:17 - 2:26 - I believe Electra also had a solo movie... Nah lets not talk about that.
Kevin "I got fuggin goosebumps" Smith
WHY HAS NO ONE HIRED YOU TWO TO MAKE THESE COMIC MOVIES!? That Cold War idea is fucking gold. GOLD.
Just Curious: will Ralph Dibny finally appear on THE FLASH? Wicked cool Infantino team-up action! Let's all get Elongated!
marc is rockin a Raiders reference! I want that shirt
THE MUMMY MADE A HUGE 177 GLOBAL OPENING WEEKEND , BIGGER THAN WHAT GUARDIANS, LOGAN, BEAUTY & THE BEAST , WONDER WOMAN DID IN THEIR RESPECTIVE OPENING WEEKENDS GLOBALLY.
BUT YOU WILL SAY IT IS A FLOP BECAUSE YOU THINK AMERICA IS THE CENTER OF THE EARTH. WHICH IS FUCKING HILARIOUS.
not the same at all, those did not open in most countries at the same time like the mummy did.
The probable reason behind Sony's clean movies is because Vid Angel is already doing this to movies AND they're making a lot of money doing it. They'll getting sued by companies, not so great for them. Sony probably thought that this could be an untapped resource of money. When in doubt, follow the money. Great video gentleman!!
The Sony Clean Cuts don't cost anything. They come as part of a whole dvd/blu ray package meaning original and clean cut package.
y'all just got all kinds of nasty there towards the end 😂 lol
Making more non-contemporary Wonder Woman movies will have to be set purely in Themyscira and similar places if they want to keep their continuity intact. In BvS she says that she left the world of men a hundred years ago, and since WW1 ended 98 years prior to when BvS takes place it's very clear that it's the point in time to which she refers.
Of course Fox has shown with their X-Men franchise that you can completely disregard continuity if you wish, but still.
6:44 ... +1 for the Marc Bernardin DCU
yeesh...first 4 days of the mummy only 38m. Not a Tom Cruise fan, so not surprised.
Oh by the way Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 is my favorite movie of the year so far
Don't forget, Jon Watts also directed Clown. Very underrated horror clown movie.
Kev, it would be a delight to listen to a conversation between you and Patty. I really liked the interview that you did with Trank, it would be great to hear you and Ms. Jenkins and bring to the table.
Supergirl and Elektra were women lead comic book movies.
Back in the old days of cable you had an A-B box. If you turned to the channel that had Playboy if you flipped A to B fast enough you could see bush.
2:14 You guys forgot Catwoman (2004) & Elektra (2005)...we don't blame you, though.
In the Television show; Steve Trevor had a son, Steve Trevor, who looked just like him.
Noomi Rapace as Catwoman, pitch the idea, swedish english accent and all
Personally, I've always wondered why the airline/television versions haven't been included on DVDs. In a lot of cases, like Smokey and the Bandit, it's just a matter of an alternate audio track (I find S&TB to be far funnier with the crazy overdubs than the original dialogue). Blues Brothers is another example of a film in which potentially "offensive" dialogue isn't necessary for the enjoyment of the film. Those movies have been on broadcast and basic cable for years and I could see parents wanting a sanitized version that kids who have only seen in that edited form can watch at anytime. I can easily understand some of it (granted my example is WB) when you get a Batman/Superman movie with a "fuck" in it for no real reason (was it *just* to get that "R" rating?...). I can also see the "sanitized" versions of movies with some sort of historic relevance being useful in public school situations. Many films are shot with alternate versions in mind during production, so it isn't an after-thought (I remember one of the parody films having a Narnia sequence and the behind the scenes segment showed one shot being filmed three ways -- girl in bikini, girl topless, girl full-frontal nude -- so if they're spending the money on it already, why not put it out there?...
Marc should design a board game called Elevator Pitch. Who would pitch in for a kickstarter to make that happen?
They could have Chris Pine reprise his role in modern time and have him end up being The Martian Manhunter in disguise on Earth to destroy Superman or they think he's there to do that when really he's there to stop something or someone else and joins their team... Then Chris Pine can just be Martian Manhunter I mean it's just make up and CGI.. Pine just throws on a mundane voice and keeps that charm and he's perfect for the role..
Mark and Kevin WW2 speck script needed! please do it. :)
but they'd have to retcon BvS (which I'm not against), because she said after WW1 she left the world of man, and didn't do anything significant till Batman found her in modern day
They should make "Spider-Ham: Hogcoming".
Kev, they did make a dirty version of Davey & Goliath! It's called Moral Orel, and it aired on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim.
Wonder Woman also got a boost because she was the best part of BVS. Ironman, Thor and Captain America came in cold. Your average person knew who the character was. Cannot say that about the guys.
Awesome. Been waiting for your thoughts. I've been to see Wonder Woman twice now and I'm taking my mum on Saturday.
I'll just sit here, secretly hoping Marc will get a surprise phone call from Warner Brothers to discuss his Diana as chronicler of the emergence of the DC universe idea...
There is a twisted version of Davy and Goliath. It was called Moral Orel.
technically they already made a cowboy bebop movie. I'm not sure if it was ever in theaters but there was a 2 hour full length movie
Has anyone considered that the reason Wonder Woman has taken so long to be made a movie, is because Linda Carter, a beloved version of WW, is still alive? Look what happen when the first tried to replace Christopher Reeve.
To be fair the current Wonder Woman character was in B v S so there was something to spark interest in her origin story. Women clapped in the theater when WW showed up in BvS so there was pre-made and pent-up demand for her own movie.
They did have a scene with the "Book of the Dead" from the original Mummy movie, when Jenni is trying to break out of the library to get to Tom Cruise. She uses the book to clock the security guy and drops it on the floor for a nice hero shot. Spoilers.
I think a woman was suppose to direct Black Panther, the one who did Selma, but her and Marvel parted company.
Kevin: Robot Chicken did a "dirty" version of Dave and Goliath ( I'm pretty sure ).
come for kevin smith, stay for mark bernardin XD
As an added bonus Zeus intervened with Steve Trevor moments before the explosion and transports him to Olympus for his heroism and friendship of WW and delivers him back to Earth to help her again in WW2.
While it would be great to see Chris Pine's Steve in the sequel in some way, I think that move would cheapen his sacrifice.
True but from another perspective his life's journey may not be done and is still destined to make the hero sacrifice with no intervention. Would make Wonder Woman's loss greater and his heroism legendary. Plus, who doesn't want more Chris Pine. Their characters in the comics had more history than one issue or one episode on TV.
Pirates 5 is awesome
It makes perfect sense. There are obviously female comic book fans but when you're selling an Iron man or Capitan America your market is limited to mostly Males. Wonderwoman appeals to both sexes and both demographics, meaning non comic book fans and comic book fans alike. It wasn't even the best movie ever made, but it damn sure deserves all these accolades!
Marc with Wonder Woman as the Watcher of the DC universe For The Win.
Marc is always correct!!! give him the reigns, and I will start reading comics again!
Apparently Tom Cruise filming Iraq scenes here in New Zealand for Mission:Impossible 6 right now or soon.
man im so jealous of my sister, my sister met Kevin Smith at her College in Florida not to long ago.
Whats weird about the Mummy's ad budget is that I had no idea it was coming out that weekend lol. I know "American Made" is coming but not this F'N movie.
I don't think that Marc understands the utilitarian value in vegetarian meat substitutes. For some reason that comment pissed me off. Also, I don't see how two morbidly obese men can comment on that subject with any seriousness. Aside from that, keep it up. A good bathroom youtube channel for sure.