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Learn How To Undercoat and Prime your Warhammer Miniatures | What is Zenithal Highlighting?
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- čas přidán 13. 08. 2022
- Learn How To Undercoat and Prime your Warhammer Miniatures | What is Zenithal Highlighting?
In this tutorial I show you how to Spray Undercoat and Prime your miniatures so you can get them ready to play Warhammer 40,000
This is an easy to follow guide that uses Citadel products to achieve fantastic looking miniatures, even if you’re new to the hobby.
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I've gone through at least 4 of your videos so far and I'm excited to try all the techniques I've seen so far to my models!! 10/10 would recommend haha
brilliant, I'm glad I can help in some way to help you get better at painting. just make sure to take your time learning the process and building that confidence
cleaning my first models (Assault Intercessors & Paint Set) as I watch these videos. Good info, good presentation
ooo exciting. I hope you've been enjoying it. good luck :D
Really useful video, and I love all the transitions and title cards you've done. Makes it look really slick!
Thank you, I've worked hard to make sure my tutorials are full of as much information as I can give, including visually as I understand people take in information in all different kins of ways
5:21 and here is where the new yellow contrast paints come in.. have you tried them yet Michael? They are absolutely amazing. Never before was there as you said a way to get a solid yellow over a dark undercoat.. this works like a dream, and the finish is extremely smooth and matt!
Really? I’ll
Have to check this out 🤔
Hey 👋 just found your channel, good job dude , very helpful stuff and love the layout of your videos with the little paint pots on the side showing what colours etc , keep up the great work
Thank you so much, welcome to the channel, I'm glad you like my content enough to subscribe and stick around, it means a lot :D
very good video , thanks for all the tips , i can use more efficient my resources.
Awesome, I’m glad I could help
Well done!! Love the introduction of a little bit of humour.
thank you :D
Another great video as always!
thank you :D
Michael, loving your work as ever mate, the production quality continues to improve with every video, keep up the awesome work!
Thank you :) I'm glad you're still watching them haha that's a good sign
@@TableTopReadyCZcams I have been keeping up with all of them. Not done any hobbying for ages as been really struggling with mental health issues. Hoping to sell my stuff I’m not going to work on and get some chaos knights with the proceeds. I think fewer models that are more ‘special’ will be less daunting that the Guard and Ork kits I’ve got currently!
If you wanted any for your tutorials 🤣
Thank you for the help
I almost exclusively use Vallejo Black airbrush primer with no zenithal. The only time I use a zenithal is on a detailed mini where the detail can get lost in a sea of black. However if I’m going for a retro eavy metal paint job then it’s a very light grey almost white primer. I feel this really makes the colours a lot more vibrant.
I feel zenithal is a style choice and you defiantly need that bright undercoat for a retro easy metal feel
Please do a black legion tutorial
I appreciate the info on Zenithal.
I was going to do a video dedicated to it, but I don’t really use it very often and there’s better people out there to learn about it from. But I’m glad I included something about it, just so people know it exists 👍🏻
If you look after your models you don’t need to use much. It’s not worth the risk of clogging up details. A very very light spray is enough. Also zenithal with spray cans is more than likely going to clog up details especially for someone inexperienced with spray cans
Thank you so much for the helpful guide, I've been having real trouble spraying since coming back to the hobby as the spray seems to instantly dry on and go on far lighter but the video was really helpful
Spraying can be difficult and even now I don’t always get it right. You just have to do everything you can and hope for the best 😋
@@TableTopReadyCZcams thank you for the encouragement, everyone else always seems to get it perfect I was worried it was a me problem 😅
Very comprehensive tutorial - Thank you! I've never seen anyone do a zenithal subassembly tutorial. I'm thinking it may not possible to get the correct effect. Perhaps "tack" assemble and then disassemble? Might be something interesting to try. Cheers!
tacking the miniature together first is actually a really great idea. I hadn't thought of that, maybe that's why you ain't seen one yet ha
Love the Warhipster Cameo!
haha I did as well
Exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. :)
Could you also show us, the best method of stripping/getting rid of the paint of old minis?
Glad you liked the video. I’m probably not gonna do a video on stripping as I don’t really do it. I’m sure there’s lots of articles and videos already that show you the best way of stripping models
Bought the new white scar yesterday and its fantastic
the new white scar really impressed me
The colour of the primer makes a massive difference, I really struggled to paint yellow over black primer. Instead wraithbone primer works better with yellow armour.
The temperature of the primer can makes a difference, if it’s too cold or too windy or humid outside, then the primer can end up being to blotchy or grainy. A friend said you should stick the primer can up your jumper for 10 to 15 minutes so your bodyheat warms the can up. I take it a bit further my relaxing under a duvet with the primer can to warm the can up while I watch a few CZcams vids.
Another way of doing zenithal highlighting is to use a rattle can of black primer then dry brush a small amount of white or grey paint over the raised areas of the model.
Thanks!
Thank you so very much for your donation, it really helps and I'll be using it to purchase the Black Templars :D
i'm just got into 40k, and bought Space Wolf CP for starter, i use black primer for my model, and its irritates me when i want to paint the shoulder pad with yellow color, now i know why lol, thank you so much for your vids, it help me a lot in my painting journey
That’s why I make these tutorials, so I can actually teach people how to paint 😃 I hope painting your yellow pads is less frustrating from now on 💪🏻
Yes. Great video
thank you
for me it has always been grey seer. However i recently started using the new white scar spray can, i feel like its smoother on the model.
this was the first time I used the white scar spray and I was very impressed with it. I still love wraith bone but white scar is now a contender
Awesome vid. I ran into some drama recently attempting Zenithal - because I was scared to cover the model too much I wasn't holding the nozzle down firmly enough so there's load of sputtery dots all over them now. Having to correct with a brush before I add the contrast paint
Hopefully it works out better for you from now on 💪🏻 zenithal is tricky
It is really good now that you help me
I’m really glad your enjoying my content 😁
I like black for general use and an off white (ushabti bone? I think) for models with brighter colours.
Wraithbone spray is the off white colour. I very rarely find myself using black now. I’m just a big fan of bright colours I recon. Thanks for the comment 😁
Could you please do a tzeentch tutorial one day. I got the start collecting box because I love the lore of tzeentch and I want to paint them like the box art.
I thinking of doing more chaos tutorials towards the end of the year and no doubt will include Tzeentch
Well done
Thank you :)
Love your videos! Would love to see a black Templar tutorial
It’s coming
@@TableTopReadyCZcams thank you. I just joined your patron; I wish I had this content when I was ten.
Brilliant. Thank you so much 😃
I undercoat my Cadians with Zandri Dust Spray, after spraying I use Zandri Dust from the pot and go with one thin coat over the uniform for a smooth finished.
That’s a great undercoat colour to use for Cadians and I used it in my tutorial, I did run out of it though 🤦🏼♂️ but I agree with your choice and approach to painting the uniform 😃
If you're in a position where you can't spray for whatever reason, I have long felt Stynylrez primer from Badger is the best brush-on primer - at least black and grey. White still needs to be airbrushed for effectiveness. The other two however, go on incredibly well with a brush and harden to a perfect surface.
Some good advice 👌🏻
🔥🔥🔥
I had no issue with using sprays in the winter, but it just got a lot drier and hotter here in Japan and I did some of the new tyranids from the ultimate set... I wish I had not. The models themselves have too many small details and the spray clogs it even if you are careful. For that range of models, I will not use a citadel spray again for the base. A very light primer from a different company may be fine. Citadel base spray... no don't use it in temperatures above 26 degrees. It just dries too fast and leaves terrible detail damage.
What do you think about cheaper aftermarket sprays or sprays from normal paint shops, are they acryl or oil based, there's is not much info on cans. In most cases they are universal for wood metal and plasti materials and they cover very nice but I'm not sure about paint sticking to them.
If you're going to look into different sprays, you'll want to make sure they are either acrylic or they will say primer on them, other wise you'll find they're lacquers. I know people use Halfords sprays
I guess it works also to spray black, and then sligthly drybrush the model with white from above?
Absolutely 💪🏻 lots of different ways. I don’t really do it myself so if you want to learn more I’m sure there are videos out there dedicated to it 😋
I haven't bought them spray cans in over year scared in case i mess one up but i do like them so especially white and black.
its worth tryng out :) the white and black sprays are pretty easy to use in my experiance. pratice on something your not fussed about first :D good luck
@@TableTopReadyCZcams Thanks i will buy them when i am next in the shop model shop.
@@TableTopReadyCZcams Yes was tempted to use spry can on my age of sig mar set too speed things up
I use GW mechanicus standard grey as my base primer. How and what color would be best to use to zenithal highlight over it?
It’s not gonna be much different to be honest. I would still use white and follow how I do it in the video 👍🏻
I may have missed this, but how do you safely attach your pieces to the wood to set them up for spraying? I’m trying to avoid damaging the plastic.
I do have a building and getting miniatures ready for painting tutorial that shows you how you could do it. I’ll either use blu tac or super glue.
Missed opportunity to say spray from about the length of the ruler away 🙃
I use a lot of Gold Retributor Armour spray, but that's for my Thousand Sons trim
haha I was originally but I didn't know how universal rulers actually are. I told myself maybe they're different lengths
Hello There! Following up from the Tau commander video i checked out this one and following step by step i've managed to get the result that you have at 3:50, the problem is that my primer partly came off from a slight touch which i presume is because the paint itself is faulty since i've painted at 20 C after 3 minutes of shaking and 1 hour of drying. Also i've wanted to ask did you sand the white miniature between 3:50 and 4:40 or something? It looks a lot better then after priming.
Those are 2 different miniatures but both were undercoated the same. I'm not sure about the paint issue
Have you tried using Zandri dust for basing etc?
I’ve used zandri dust personally and I’ll be using it in a Cadian tutorial next month. I’m a big fan
Are all the sprays from GW primer? Are they as durable as other sprays labeled as primer? If not which ones are? Thanks.
all the citadel sprays can be used as a primer. they're just different colours. I probably use the different colours more than the basic colours and I've never had a problem with spraying them straight onto plastic
What primer would you recommend for Goff Orkz? I've seen you use a variety of primers for Orkz and I'm trying to narrow my decision and not overthink it too much. New to painting in general so I'm trying to do it right
it's really a personal choice on what you prefer working over. honestly I tend to use what I have at the time. so I have Orks undercoated leadbelcher, wraithbone, grey seer etc etc. I do tend to stay away from chaos black though, I like a good midtone or light colour. I would use chaos black for vehicles and things like mega knobs if they have a lot of black armour.
Questions What are those big dropper bottles on your work bench? you have never seen them before.
I transferred paints and mediums into them. I regretted it and no longer do it. It’s a waste of time
@@TableTopReadyCZcams good idea
I've been priming my minis on the Sprues is that fine??
I always say do things the way you want to do them. I would recommend against priming on the sprue though as you'll have to cut the parts off and then clean up which can make priming pointless as you'll probably remove it in the process. I have a building and getting your miniatures ready for painting video that could help you out
New to all this so what spray use for marines if plastic is blue?
You can use the same spray. The colour of the plastic doesn’t change anything 😁
@@TableTopReadyCZcams cool cheers
I’m having trouble applying my retributor armor, it either doesn’t come out in the gold that I want, but rather some times a sandy looking color, I live in Florida so the temperature barely goes down below 80
if your making sure its shaken and follow other advise from the video then its likely the florida temperature. maybe teres a cooler time of the day? the issue with high temperture is the paint dries and evaperates more quickly when it leaves the can so you'll find your just getting dry paint on your miniature. try spraying a little closer to your miniature and use less frequant bursts as you spray
I use Pebeo Black or Vallejo Grey but neither stick to my models that well. I’ve tried washing with soap and water and also with alcohol but the results have not been great, though acceptable.
I'm gonna assume these have been mixed with thinners or are they spray based? if you are mixing them with thinners, sometimes the thinner can effect how that primer performs, especially if its a different brand. I know Vallejo doesn't work very well with Mr Hobby for example. the Vallejo thinners are pretty universal though. I know AMMO do airbrush ready primer. if they are sprays then I'm not sure why that is
@@TableTopReadyCZcamsmy valejo airbrush primer comes out really wet and just runs off the models
Im new in the hobby and having a hard time getting a clear answer to whether a "primer" and an "undercoat" is the same? - Im going to paint orks and want to use wraithbone, but it is labled as "contrast undercoat". Do i need to use something labled as "primer" under it? Or is it the same thing? (I have gone through countless reddit threads and keep getting mixed answers)
An undercoat and primer both do exactly the same thing. People just like to get high and mighty about things. Wraithbone is a great undercoat to use. I use it myself 👍🏻
@@TableTopReadyCZcams Thank you! - Your videos do a great work at explaining for newcomers like myself!
So can I just prime the kit after glueing everything
yes you can
I have a starter set but I don’t know what to do
I’m guessing you have now seen my getting started painting miniatures video now? If not make sure to check that out and it should get you started 😃 good luck
....and no matter how bad one fails at painting, he can always spray it over with chaos black and call them Black Templars, Ulthwe, Black Legion,..... and wrap it up
Nice video :)
personaly i stick with grey seer. It is sort of in the middle and after using it for a while, i know what to expect when applying colors, so its more of a habbit than a preferance
Thanks 😃 I’m in the habit of using wraithbone. I like that creamy off white colour. I recon people like certain colours because they prefer how the different paints look on it
“Did you say contrast paint?” LMAO!
he did a great job haha
Can you please do a tutorial on how people get those pinky/purple/red chaos that I see in all the battle reports, it's so nice but mine always just look like power rangers...
Which battle reports 🤔? I’m not sure I’ve seen these
@@TableTopReadyCZcams I believe it's a few of the Chaos Space Marine battle reports on "Play on Tabletop's" channel :) Adeptus Mechanicus vs Chaos Space Marines and First Game of 40K! Chaos Space Marines vs Ultramarines are two that use the really nice colour scheme for sure!
Dam yu are so good at painting can y please do a runtherd and gretchin painting tutorial plzzz
You would be a god
I’ll add it to the list
@@TableTopReadyCZcams OMG thxxxx so much
One thing that I never see talked about is those hard to reach recesses/places. I always spend an hr or so on a unit afterwards getting those places by hand. Otherwise if I try to do it using the spray can it goes on too heavy and ruins the model. Does anyone else have this problem?
honestly, I never manage to get every nook and cranny, but I find the over spray tends to be good enough and you're able to paint on on it regardless :D
@@TableTopReadyCZcams thanks, sounds like I’m spraying the right amount then.
I usually have this issue more when my base coat is the same colour as my primer so need it all fully covered.
I find a wash or contrast though tends to cover any small areas I’ve missed. Because of this sometimes I do feel I waste a bit of time getting it fully covered before my wash/contrast so still experimenting with what’s best. The one thing I really want to avoid though is over spraying and losing detail. I tend to struggle with this a bit when spraying.
Probably wouldn’t be such an issue with an airbrush.
Great video!
I did that and it came out slightly gritty.
this could be for a lot of reasons, its just gonna be a bit of trial and error. a lot of the time this is because the paint is drying too fast before it hits the miniatures. make sure its shaken and maybe spray a bit closer to the miniatures.I can only show you best practice
Anyone else having a hard time getting leadbelcher to cover properly? Tried priming my dreadnought and all i get are speckles of metal and clogged details. I did prime it with mechanicum grey a month or so ago and decided i didnt want to try painting all the metal with a brush. Not sure if its me or if leadbelcher being a metallic paint makes it more finicky.
The leadbelcher should behave the same as other sprays. If your finding it building up then try moving the can more as you spray in short bursts. Make sure it’s really well shaken. Less is more with leadbelcher as well.
@@TableTopReadyCZcams Thank you kind sir, I greatly appreciate you and your videos
As i have stated with numerous tutorals like this. Can you do a version for priming multiple units at the same time? Cause hrde armies cant afford to go one by one xD
Just get something bigger to stick more things to? The way to spray them is the same, your just spraying more miniatures. If you really doing a lot and want to do them quickly then don’t build them in sub assemblies. But everything I do is the same when I spray a larger amount of minutes as well.
If you're doing large numbers of minis, best to assemble them all in full and blu-tack them onto 1 side of a rule/long stick (you could literally do 4-8 in a row) and spray them all together.
Might need to separate them and finish off spraying each of them into the more concealed sides/underparts, but you could easily spray a large unit of models in the space of an afternoon.
Grey or black or both
I've not really tried grey, but I may give it a go now I have some
@@TableTopReadyCZcams I prefer it to white, was surprised at how it can still lay down a zenythal but the highlights are not as stark when you start layering
I prime my miniatures… I paint them. The paint just seems to scratch off so easy with my fingernail.
Whereas, I’ve bought miniatures already painted off eBay, and they don’t look varnished, but you’d have to practically take some vapour to those suckers to get the paint off.
I don’t understand where I’m going wrong ?
paint cures over time, I would just avoid scratching it with your finger nail :P
@@TableTopReadyCZcams
lol… didn’t think of that…
yeah it dries fast enough to work with but it will need to continue to dry over a longer period of time ha
I’d definitely use rattle can primer, the water-based ones aren’t as good imo. Once the mini’s finished I sometimes varnish them in water-based Vallejo gloss and then go over them with Vallejo clear varnish. If they’re going to be used a lot in games, this really stops the paint coming off. The gloss varnish is tough stuff!
...there are better and cheaper options than citadel rattle cans. Even Forge World don't use em on resin.
There are lots and lots. It’s all about doing a little research and finding one that you like to use
This may mark me a heretic, but has anyone had success with non-Citadel spray cans?
Yeah, there’s lots of different options out there. Just make sure to do some research before you dive in to the unknown
Maxi colour - Robert Dyas. £5!
Dont use spray cans, safe money for an airbrush.
That is an option 👍🏻
Citadel spray is NOT primer, it may contain some primer like a house paint does, but it is not a proper primer. Actual primer serves a real purpose. Also Priming and Undercoating are two different steps.
This is worth knowing 👍🏻
If you’re using a $20 can of spray paint…the answer is ‘no’
4:04 I can feel the touch of this model and I don't like it
it was pretty much just powder when you touched it
Nah. We is too stupid
That’s why I made this video 😉