Excellent instruction. It's kind of funny to watch this video from 2011 in 2014 and hear Delaney say "Lorenzo... over-exaggerates it." And then there was Marquez.
Jonathan Vogel thats what he is doing. Pushing the bike and himself pass the limit to get better. Without crashing you will never know how far you and the bike can go. Ofcourse that dont apply to us except if you got all the money in the world you can crash the most expensive vehicle in the world and it wouldnt even hurt
Great video! It made me realize some things I was doing incorrectly at my previous, and first, track day which I had previously been completely unaware of. Thanks for posting!
What an excellent instruction, most people don't go through the different stages which leads to confusion. Cannot wait to put this into practice at my next track day. Many thanks!
great video! hope some of you guys covers the downshifting techniques in such detail. i find it really hard to keep steady break pressure when blipping the throtle under heavy breaking.
Thank you for posting this!! There are so many terrible videos about body positioning on youtube that honestly just gives awful information to inexperienced riders.... THIS video has CORRECT body positioning and solid information that an inexperienced rider would benefit from. Fantastic stuff, and keep it up:)
Great video man! Really in depth. Do you weight the outside peg while in the middle of the corner, or only while braking and on corner exit? Thanks for the great video
Great instruction. I'm headed to TWS with Ridesmart for 2 days in April. My 1st track day and I'm excited. Question: How do define the "clip point" of the turn? I've never heard that term. Thanks again.
Im glad you noted out loud that if a guy is smaller he can get way off the bike but us larger chested folk just need a bit of our weight off the bike. I was getting taught by a scrawny fella and he kept telling me to get way off the bike but it clearly felt wrong. I then made the assumption that it took less of my large frame off the bike, it wasnt until this video though where I was positive, also good note on the pivot point. I was having trouble with that. Ciao
I like how you suggest picking your FAVORITE corner to practice the techniques in. That's something I haven't heard from an instructor before, but it seems to me that it would be very helpful for learners. Most riders' favorite corners are going to be the one they feel the most comfortable in, so their mind will have more ability to manage and learn from the new technique. I'd suggest keeping that in mind during instruction to new riders (and even experienced riders!)
I love all of this information. I do have a question though.. When he sais to move your body before the turn, I find that that weight shift causes my bike to start turning in early. Before I intended to. Any thoughts? Thanks!
yeah letting the clutch slowly would kind of work, but I want to learn it the right way with rev matching. It feels good and allows much faster downshifts. Actually I can do it under regular breaking. Only under hard breaking i find it tricky. Even though I try to support my weight with legs on the tank, still end up pushing the handlebars a lot
Setting up for a corner Braking\Downshifting\Adjusting your body\Preparing for exit\scrubbing feet off\Am I going to make this corner\who's behind me? Nice tips. Thanks
that makes two of us. I usually down shift and let off the clutch lightly to let it match rpms. My control rider said you can really do without blipping if you don't dump the clutch. And when you are downshifting while braking and SLOWLY letting the clutch back out. You should be in the lower gear before you turn in.
Can't believe this stuff is out there for free. I've been riding for 10 years and learned a lot. Just curious, by downshifting does he mean engine-braking?
vetiarvind I normally downshift setting up for the corner so that I'm in the right gear to accelerate out of the corner. This helps straighten the bike back up smoothly.
+vetiarvind Unless your bike is extremely powerful, you will need to downshift to make up for any loss of speed during the turn But more importantly, TO have the ability to accelerate out of the turn, which is needed to get back into the upright position.
+Survival Pax Oh boy. Yet another person who thinks dragging the clutch on a downshift means engine braking. Engine braking occurs simply through releasing the throttle and maximized at closed throttle. i.e. vacuum slowing you down
When approaching a corner, and moving your body over in preparation for tip-in, you counter the weight-shift caused by moving your body towards the inside by applying an appropriate level of handlebar input to counter this effect. The entire time, you want to make sure that you aren't using the handle-bars for support...they are simply steering inputs.
Im a bit confused, instructor is saying that you should turn your inside foot away from the frame in the direction of the turn but on the pictures that they are showing Nicky Hayden has his inside foot inline with the bike.
Wow this is helpfull. I don;t plan on racing but wanted to get better at cornering. For 11 years I just counter steered and never really changed body position. I guess I never got the concept that increased body lean = less bike lean angel therefore better tired contact on road and more room for error. I guess body position was never really taught in the beginner course.
Hello, this is a begginer's question. What's the best gear to use when cornering? Is it better to use a 'tight' gear or a little 'looser' one? Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Depends on the corner. But the circumference of the outside of the tire is smaller than the middle. The result is when leaned over your engine rpm increases. If you want to take advantage of this fact use a higher gear. Maybe if the corner is really tight and the drive portion is towards the center of the tire perhaps youd want a lower gear to maximize your drive. But if the drive is on the edge of the tire and its like a sweeper youd be better off in a higher gear. 7 years late but hope this helps anyone
Audio not so great. What did you say about you leg/knee being against the frame instead of sticking out? Because I think turning with your knee tucked in allows you to take the turn faster and lower
do you guys remember the name of the training video that shows this clip with the two guys in the canyon that keep running into another guy that gives them a book?
I did all this but about half way through the corner, my foot will hit the road (even with it pulled back) and therefore disrupts the turn. I'm usually able to take an exit route after that happens, brake, and gather myself but last night the same thing happened, started taking the exit route (the shoulder) but noticed a very large rock in the way which forced me to get on the brakes harder than the shoulder terrain could allow and I went down. it seems I'm always over-leaning my bike, any idea how to fix this?
+corey anthony If the bike is at a very shallow angle with the road in the turn, especially if you're grinding the inside peg WITH your toes on the foot peg, then it's likely your body position is messed up. Most inexperienced riders might tip the bike in heavily onto the outer edge of the tyre, but forget to shift their weight off the bike. What this looks like (from the front) is heavily tipped-in angle, with your upper body and ass still in line with the windscreen and tank. This means the bike leans right down, grinds a peg and can low-side the bike. It happens cos of little grip on the edge of the tyre, with all your centrifugal weight pushing onto that small area, its easy to fall. The trick is to dip the inside elbow and shoulder (and knee) into the turn, at the same time as having your whole inside ass-cheek hanging off the seat into the corner. What does this do???? Well, by having your body overhanging, it allows a tighter corner, but WITHOUT the need of the bike needing to be leant over at such an exaggerated angle. So while it feels odd to feel 'outside of the bike', it won't lean over so much, meaning the tyres will grip better because the bike grips with a BIGGER contact patch on the larger part of the tyre. Sounds odd but it works. Doing this will mean you won't grind pegs because the BIKE isn't angled so close to the road, but YOUR BODY will be closer to the asphalt. Go back to where you see Nicky Hayden (#69) hanging off the bike in a corner. He himself is closer to the ground, but his bike sits a little more upright, making it corner with more grip, but your bodyweight pulls it tighter through the turn. That's what you want, and this will prevent peg-dragging without the (unnecessary) cost of adjustable rearsets. NEVER modify a bike before you analyse your technique. Hope this is understandable. Failing that, buy or CZcams Keith Code's "A twist of the wrist". Cheers
+Ryong Choi Standard rear sets never cause a problem if your body position and riding technique is correct. Adjustable rearsets are more for comfort. Peg-dragging means he's leaning the bike over far too much to get him through the turn. Leaning off the bike allows the bike to corner harder but with the bike at a lesser lean angle, meaning better grip and no dragging of the peg. I wrote this in greater detail below for Corey
For those who ride the track regularly or semi-regularly, I was wondering if you can critique my body position. A good friend of mine recorded a cool mini video of me riding over here in Massachusetts in an area with a couple of VERY nice corners. It's my most recently uploaded video on my channel. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!!! Thanks!!!
I’ve got friends that always talk up their motorbike riding skills.. but whenever I have riden with them, they honestly look like a crouching statue... their bum never leaves the middle of the seat. It’s funny to watch .
is it true that you have to leave your hands almost hovering over the handlebars?. i mean, that all the suport (and i mean all) should come from the torso and legs? the thing is i have cronical back problems but still want to ride, but i cant do that with my torso. all i can is hold myself relaxed over the bars but not almost hoovering
i finally rode my first sport bike ever. a street triple. i have back pain if i dont grip the tank with my legs when breaking. so far not so bad. i can ride an hour before i need the urge to rest a little bit, but is fine, im not going to be track rat. i hope my back gets stronger ( and my leg grip too) and thanks guys
see those bikes have an aggressive position, I can't do more then an hour on a 1000cc for a daily too much power and not to mention the back as well. I'm a kinda long, I ride an fz6n w/ fz1 handle bars to raise it up a bit. but good luck on the track, looking to upgrade and eventually do track
No, not a firm grip. Better to have a very soft and relaxed grip with the hands. Hold the bike with the legs not the arms/hands. you will have better control that way.
if you ride and think about this, that is valuable concentration that your losing. use that EXACT same concentration to try be faster and i think youll know what to do with your elbow.
I watched enough videos on body positioning and read plenty of comments but I can't workout why I'm unsettling my bike every time I move. I do not apply pressure on the handlebar and try to push from my feet but it just make the bike wobble. Any suggestions? I'm on a light 125cc which I enjoy pushing to its limit.
yackawaytube That's not even for racing.. This guy says incorrect things, like at 3:50 when he says that you move your body while braking which is absolutely not what you wanna do (on track we set our body THEN we brake). That's for guys who wants to think they ride fast only, racers and cruisers aren't concerned ;)
As he also says, it makes you lighter in the seat. Yes you still have the same weight pressed down through the back of the bike, but your calves, thighs and core tense a bit when pressing the balls of your feet into the pegs.. You notice this you can hover your butt just off the seat this way and move a bit more freely, so basically your legs take some of the work off the suspension. The opposite would be planting your heals and butt and having weight also on the bars, you are a solid, stiff mass on the bike and the suspension takes 100% of that. "Light in the seat" as they say using the balls of your feet and legs squeezing the tank takes work off the suspension by your legs suspending/absorbing some of your weight. It's much harder to explain but very easy to feel on the bike. It is really easy to test by going over some speed bumps with all your weight on your butt vs through your core, thighs and calfs pressed into your pegs with the balls of your feet. I bet motorcross riders spend 99% of the time with a majority of their weight not even in the seat.
+vetiarvind If wish shift gears mid corner when doing this type of thing think need go back to step 1 half the (dudes) go and pay for this new wonder riding can be left far behind by old school in slow out fast riding by a experienced fat old man just sits on the thing and counter steers and lets his ass/knees do the work then rolls on and keeps on the power
+Aziz Thegreat well in Australia with our lane on the left, you get a nice quick right to left change as you go through the roundabout where you can practice going side to side. If you haven't already, check out the California superbike school video teaching the "knee to knee", basically helps you switch side to side while remaining stable.
Realistically if you're not on a track it's best to find a section of decent rideable road in your area with multiple curves in different directions and practice your body positioning and braking/downshifting, get comfortable with the curves on that road and increase speed and lean angle as your ability improves. Practice.
I keep expecting him to say "Loretta, I need you to keep your head down, until you finish off every corner.... Hee hee hee stay down while I ghost ride your whip!"
Idont agree with balls of feet. It works your calf muscle only which isnt meant for longevity. Ride mid foot on the pegs..it uses your quads which can take more abuse then your calf. To each there own maybe okay on track but if you ride tight twisties for 100 of miles mid foot makes more sense for longevity.
yeah this guy is probably a good instructor and a good rider. but there's always somebody who could explain it better. his instruction for setting up for a corner seems very very busy. personally I like Nick ienatsch's technique on how he breaks down a corner symplified and easy to understand.
I guess you are not easy enough on your hands and thus do some countersteering while moving your body. I am a newbie rider and while I try to adopt hanging off I experience the same problem. It is difficult to move your body without moving your bike, but I guess that is the difference between a newb and a pro
As he mentioned first that these are the positions for a track and obviously on a racing track bike so no need to ride like this on our main or country roads., Not necessary as we don't have to maintain a high speed as in A RACING SCENARIO.. What we do on track stays on track.
Meanwhile back on planet earth when the bs stops and pure skill needed on you tube THE ROAD WARRIORS IRISH ROAD RACING SOUTHERN 100 dont think any these boy and girls paid for this school as not riding a gp bike
+Carlos Pinto Advice; there's a difference between watching and doing. Trying some of this stuff especially on a public road without prior track practice and you will likely do it wrong with severe consequences. Good technique takes practice. It doesn't just happen. On a track, there are few dangers of hitting dangerous objects like trees, walls or oncoming traffic. Learn these techniques on a track and you will become a MUCH safer rider on the roads. After numerous track days I'm now much safer on the roads than I used to be, but tidier and faster. BUT - the day you get cocky and think you know it all is the day you come unstuck. If you ever stop learning on a bike it's time to give up.
this was by far the best lesson vid i have ever seen on here
Excellent instruction. It's kind of funny to watch this video from 2011 in 2014 and hear Delaney say "Lorenzo... over-exaggerates it." And then there was Marquez.
Times change!
But ROSSI seems to go on and on and on... LOL!!
Marquez is a jump forward , but he
might get hurt doing it.
The same on 2019!
Jonathan Vogel thats what he is doing. Pushing the bike and himself pass the limit to get better. Without crashing you will never know how far you and the bike can go. Ofcourse that dont apply to us except if you got all the money in the world you can crash the most expensive vehicle in the world and it wouldnt even hurt
One of the better videos I've seen! Thanks!
Very informative. Thank you, this will help my street riding and cornering on highway changes
Great video! It made me realize some things I was doing incorrectly at my previous, and first, track day which I had previously been completely unaware of. Thanks for posting!
Great Instructional video, I will watch this several times and try to incorporate it into my riding!! Best overall body positioning video I've seen!!
Thanks for breaking it down for me. It is nice to get a comprehensive step-by-step explanation for correct cornering. This helps.
What an excellent instruction, most people don't go through the different stages which leads to confusion. Cannot wait to put this into practice at my next track day. Many thanks!
Great video, very informative! Book marked for study!
This is a great video, thanks for posting.
This is great - really interesting and well explained. Thanks for sharing it! :)
Very informative video. THX 4 sharing the knowledge.
I had been riding about two years and only now do I realize that I know nothing. These videos are great. Keep it up!
Great information, video helped me a lot haha make more like these
Great information. I can't wait to ride with you guys at COTA
Thanks for sharing this video. Its very informative and interesting.
great video! hope some of you guys covers the downshifting techniques in such detail. i find it really hard to keep steady break pressure when blipping the throtle under heavy breaking.
This video culd help alot of ppl, thx again!!!! Drive safe...
Very good video. Thumbs up !
Awesome video!
Thank you for posting this!! There are so many terrible videos about body positioning on youtube that honestly just gives awful information to inexperienced riders.... THIS video has CORRECT body positioning and solid information that an inexperienced rider would benefit from. Fantastic stuff, and keep it up:)
Great video very helpful
One of the best video to learn how to ride properly
Thanks for the video. You taught me a few things.
What a fantastic video.
Was really helpful. Thanks!
Great video! Shared it on our Facebook!
I thought that first said "Four Stages of Booty Position"
great video well presented heaps of good tip to hone skills cheers :)
Great video man! Really in depth. Do you weight the outside peg while in the middle of the corner, or only while braking and on corner exit?
Thanks for the great video
Great vid thanks for posting it up. Dam I love motorbikes all of them sportbikes are just the best ones. To me! Thanks again for the great vid.
These tips are great. Helped me understand the basics. Oahu, Hawaii needs a racetrack. It should be a sin to not have one.
Great instruction. I'm headed to TWS with Ridesmart for 2 days in April. My 1st track day and I'm excited. Question: How do define the "clip point" of the turn? I've never heard that term. Thanks again.
Im glad you noted out loud that if a guy is smaller he can get way off the bike but us larger chested folk just need a bit of our weight off the bike. I was getting taught by a scrawny fella and he kept telling me to get way off the bike but it clearly felt wrong. I then made the assumption that it took less of my large frame off the bike, it wasnt until this video though where I was positive, also good note on the pivot point. I was having trouble with that. Ciao
Wish I saw this a long time ago. I've always moved my foot close into the bike when turning
@czeeb1 Thanks for your kind words and glad that our videos are helpful.
2:14 Lower body set-up (inside foot)
Great info!!!
I like how you suggest picking your FAVORITE corner to practice the techniques in. That's something I haven't heard from an instructor before, but it seems to me that it would be very helpful for learners. Most riders' favorite corners are going to be the one they feel the most comfortable in, so their mind will have more ability to manage and learn from the new technique. I'd suggest keeping that in mind during instruction to new riders (and even experienced riders!)
Great video.
Thanks for sharing!
Can't wait to do another event that seems like the cresson Track. Great stuff. Anyone that wants to go fast they'll show you.
Great video. This is really helpful.
Sad I missed track day in cresson this weekend better believe i'll be there next month!!
Great information. I really really want to get to a track. Gotta save up some money.
Great video. Will drop the elbow next time at Mallory Park 🏁🇬🇧👍
I love all of this information. I do have a question though..
When he sais to move your body before the turn, I find that that weight shift causes my bike to start turning in early. Before I intended to.
Any thoughts? Thanks!
Thank you !
yeah letting the clutch slowly would kind of work, but I want to learn it the right way with rev matching. It feels good and allows much faster downshifts. Actually I can do it under regular breaking. Only under hard breaking i find it tricky. Even though I try to support my weight with legs on the tank, still end up pushing the handlebars a lot
I love this guy,where is this school?
Setting up for a corner
Braking\Downshifting\Adjusting your body\Preparing for exit\scrubbing feet off\Am I going to make this corner\who's behind me?
Nice tips. Thanks
that makes two of us. I usually down shift and let off the clutch lightly to let it match rpms. My control rider said you can really do without blipping if you don't dump the clutch. And when you are downshifting while braking and SLOWLY letting the clutch back out. You should be in the lower gear before you turn in.
Can't believe this stuff is out there for free. I've been riding for 10 years and learned a lot. Just curious, by downshifting does he mean engine-braking?
vetiarvind I normally downshift setting up for the corner so that I'm in the right gear to accelerate out of the corner. This helps straighten the bike back up smoothly.
+vetiarvind Unless your bike is extremely powerful, you will need to downshift to make up for any loss of speed during the turn But more importantly, TO have the ability to accelerate out of the turn, which is needed to get back into the upright position.
+Survival Pax Oh boy. Yet another person who thinks dragging the clutch on a downshift means engine braking. Engine braking occurs simply through releasing the throttle and maximized at closed throttle. i.e. vacuum slowing you down
When approaching a corner, and moving your body over in preparation for tip-in, you counter the weight-shift caused by moving your body towards the inside by applying an appropriate level of handlebar input to counter this effect. The entire time, you want to make sure that you aren't using the handle-bars for support...they are simply steering inputs.
Thank yooou!
Did I see this instructor in STT, CMP in South Carolina, May 30th, 2015? :)
Im a bit confused, instructor is saying that you should turn your inside foot away from the frame in the direction of the turn but on the pictures that they are showing Nicky Hayden has his inside foot inline with the bike.
Wow this is helpfull. I don;t plan on racing but wanted to get better at cornering. For 11 years I just counter steered and never really changed body position. I guess I never got the concept that increased body lean = less bike lean angel therefore better tired contact on road and more room for error. I guess body position was never really taught in the beginner course.
yeah same here. I was at a sports bike store and someone told me about this
7:50 Corner Exit
8:50 Roll on
Hello, this is a begginer's question.
What's the best gear to use when cornering?
Is it better to use a 'tight' gear or a little 'looser' one?
Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
Depends on the corner. But the circumference of the outside of the tire is smaller than the middle. The result is when leaned over your engine rpm increases. If you want to take advantage of this fact use a higher gear. Maybe if the corner is really tight and the drive portion is towards the center of the tire perhaps youd want a lower gear to maximize your drive. But if the drive is on the edge of the tire and its like a sweeper youd be better off in a higher gear. 7 years late but hope this helps anyone
Ride smart motorcycle tq your information.. Body position
how far frm Houston is this place
Way better than my ridesmart guy
I need to know what he said!!!
He looks like a cleaned up version of the dude from sons of anarchy
+Veggietative Except this guy can ride.
+SoCalDualSport He probably hits less women too
I just realised there is something like "the sound of leather" in the background :P
Audio not so great. What did you say about you leg/knee being against the frame instead of sticking out? Because I think turning with your knee tucked in allows you to take the turn faster and lower
Before I get to this, I need to work through the four stages of body position denial. 😕
do you guys remember the name of the training video that shows this clip with the two guys in the canyon that keep running into another guy that gives them a book?
Twist of the wrist
Twist of the wrist
Twist of the wrist
+AC oh yea.twist of the wrist 2 thanks ..i used to like to forward this video to new riders..it saves lives
I did all this but about half way through the corner, my foot will hit the road (even with it pulled back) and therefore disrupts the turn. I'm usually able to take an exit route after that happens, brake, and gather myself but last night the same thing happened, started taking the exit route (the shoulder) but noticed a very large rock in the way which forced me to get on the brakes harder than the shoulder terrain could allow and I went down. it seems I'm always over-leaning my bike, any idea how to fix this?
+corey anthony If the bike is at a very shallow angle with the road in the turn, especially if you're grinding the inside peg WITH your toes on the foot peg, then it's likely your body position is messed up. Most inexperienced riders might tip the bike in heavily onto the outer edge of the tyre, but forget to shift their weight off the bike. What this looks like (from the front) is heavily tipped-in angle, with your upper body and ass still in line with the windscreen and tank. This means the bike leans right down, grinds a peg and can low-side the bike. It happens cos of little grip on the edge of the tyre, with all your centrifugal weight pushing onto that small area, its easy to fall. The trick is to dip the inside elbow and shoulder (and knee) into the turn, at the same time as having your whole inside ass-cheek hanging off the seat into the corner. What does this do???? Well, by having your body overhanging, it allows a tighter corner, but WITHOUT the need of the bike needing to be leant over at such an exaggerated angle. So while it feels odd to feel 'outside of the bike', it won't lean over so much, meaning the tyres will grip better because the bike grips with a BIGGER contact patch on the larger part of the tyre. Sounds odd but it works. Doing this will mean you won't grind pegs because the BIKE isn't angled so close to the road, but YOUR BODY will be closer to the asphalt. Go back to where you see Nicky Hayden (#69) hanging off the bike in a corner. He himself is closer to the ground, but his bike sits a little more upright, making it corner with more grip, but your bodyweight pulls it tighter through the turn. That's what you want, and this will prevent peg-dragging without the (unnecessary) cost of adjustable rearsets. NEVER modify a bike before you analyse your technique. Hope this is understandable. Failing that, buy or CZcams Keith Code's "A twist of the wrist". Cheers
+Ryong Choi Standard rear sets never cause a problem if your body position and riding technique is correct. Adjustable rearsets are more for comfort. Peg-dragging means he's leaning the bike over far too much to get him through the turn. Leaning off the bike allows the bike to corner harder but with the bike at a lesser lean angle, meaning better grip and no dragging of the peg. I wrote this in greater detail below for Corey
For those who ride the track regularly or semi-regularly, I was wondering if you can critique my body position. A good friend of mine recorded a cool mini video of me riding over here in Massachusetts in an area with a couple of VERY nice corners. It's my most recently uploaded video on my channel. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated!!! Thanks!!!
Pretty sure it's Motorsport Ranch in Cresson, TX.
Haha. I've been riding completely wrong for 20 years !!!
I’ve got friends that always talk up their motorbike riding skills.. but whenever I have riden with them, they honestly look like a crouching statue... their bum never leaves the middle of the seat.
It’s funny to watch .
is it true that you have to leave your hands almost hovering over the handlebars?. i mean, that all the suport (and i mean all) should come from the torso and legs? the thing is i have cronical back problems but still want to ride, but i cant do that with my torso. all i can is hold myself relaxed over the bars but not almost hoovering
you don't have to corner always like that, when you take it easy you don't have to move around like that.
hovering is a bit too much..a firm grim with out squeezing. You might come into trouble if your are resting your upper body thoe.
i finally rode my first sport bike ever. a street triple. i have back pain if i dont grip the tank with my legs when breaking. so far not so bad. i can ride an hour before i need the urge to rest a little bit, but is fine, im not going to be track rat. i hope my back gets stronger ( and my leg grip too) and thanks guys
see those bikes have an aggressive position, I can't do more then an hour on a 1000cc for a daily too much power and not to mention the back as well. I'm a kinda long, I ride an fz6n w/ fz1 handle bars to raise it up a bit. but good luck on the track, looking to upgrade and eventually do track
No, not a firm grip. Better to have a very soft and relaxed grip with the hands. Hold the bike with the legs not the arms/hands. you will have better control that way.
if you ride and think about this, that is valuable concentration that your losing. use that EXACT same concentration to try be faster and i think youll know what to do with your elbow.
I watched enough videos on body positioning and read plenty of comments but I can't workout why I'm unsettling my bike every time I move. I do not apply pressure on the handlebar and try to push from my feet but it just make the bike wobble. Any suggestions? I'm on a light 125cc which I enjoy pushing to its limit.
Dennis de los Ríos Oakes too soft suspension maybe?
Ill look in to that, thanks
Is this strictly for racing only? I can't imagine riding on a cruiser long distance without most of my weight on the seat
yackawaytube That's not even for racing.. This guy says incorrect things, like at 3:50 when he says that you move your body while braking which is absolutely not what you wanna do (on track we set our body THEN we brake).
That's for guys who wants to think they ride fast only, racers and cruisers aren't concerned ;)
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What did the instructor say at 7:10?
Make sure your outside arm has
. . . bend in it.
'...bend...you do not want to make your arm straight'
I didn't get it at first either.
Where exactly is your weight when you are on the pegs if NOT on your suspension?
I think he means its balanced if you stay centered. If your forward on the bars you take up suspension travel
As he also says, it makes you lighter in the seat. Yes you still have the same weight pressed down through the back of the bike, but your calves, thighs and core tense a bit when pressing the balls of your feet into the pegs..
You notice this you can hover your butt just off the seat this way and move a bit more freely, so basically your legs take some of the work off the suspension.
The opposite would be planting your heals and butt and having weight also on the bars, you are a solid, stiff mass on the bike and the suspension takes 100% of that. "Light in the seat" as they say using the balls of your feet and legs squeezing the tank takes work off the suspension by your legs suspending/absorbing some of your weight.
It's much harder to explain but very easy to feel on the bike.
It is really easy to test by going over some speed bumps with all your weight on your butt vs through your core, thighs and calfs pressed into your pegs with the balls of your feet.
I bet motorcross riders spend 99% of the time with a majority of their weight not even in the seat.
One more question - how do you shift gears while you're standing on the balls of the feet?
+vetiarvind your moving everything else around...have to move feet too.
brianmathew09
i saw some comment that said the modern riding technique involves keeping your foot in place
+vetiarvind If wish shift gears mid corner when doing this type of thing
think need go back to step 1 half the (dudes) go and pay for this new wonder riding can be left far behind by old school in slow out fast riding by
a experienced fat old man just sits on the thing and counter steers and lets his ass/knees do the work then rolls on and keeps on the power
+vetiarvind I wouldn't recommend getting advice from the comments section of a youtube video.
+Tyler Olmstead you got that right! 10% good and 90% complete bollx
Would *REALLY* like to do track days....pity it costs so much fucking money :(
Supernova12034 indeed man
How can I transition faster from corner to corner?
Practice, roundabouts are great practice for this.
+Mevlinous going the same direction or how?
+Aziz Thegreat well in Australia with our lane on the left, you get a nice quick right to left change as you go through the roundabout where you can practice going side to side. If you haven't already, check out the California superbike school video teaching the "knee to knee", basically helps you switch side to side while remaining stable.
+Aziz Thegreat juz go full throttle and say ur prayers
Realistically if you're not on a track it's best to find a section of decent rideable road in your area with multiple curves in different directions and practice your body positioning and braking/downshifting, get comfortable with the curves on that road and increase speed and lean angle as your ability improves. Practice.
I keep expecting him to say "Loretta, I need you to keep your head down, until you finish off every corner.... Hee hee hee stay down while I ghost ride your whip!"
Why not move your body before braking and not upset braking either? That's what I try to do.. I'm no professional though.
Scrubbing speed off mane ki sir,
Idont agree with balls of feet. It works your calf muscle only which isnt meant for longevity. Ride mid foot on the pegs..it uses your quads which can take more abuse then your calf. To each there own maybe okay on track but if you ride tight twisties for 100 of miles mid foot makes more sense for longevity.
Ninja boss shit !!!
Very good video... only an idiot cannot understand how is the body positioning after see this
Thanks. Cool as a cucumber instructor :)
yeah this guy is probably a good instructor and a good rider. but there's always somebody who could explain it better. his instruction for setting up for a corner seems very very busy. personally I like Nick ienatsch's technique on how he breaks down a corner symplified and easy to understand.
I guess you are not easy enough on your hands and thus do some countersteering while moving your body. I am a newbie rider and while I try to adopt hanging off I experience the same problem. It is difficult to move your body without moving your bike, but I guess that is the difference between a newb and a pro
They should have a bike in the class to show exactly what hes teaching.
As he mentioned first that these are the positions for a track and obviously on a racing track bike so no need to ride like this on our main or country roads., Not necessary as we don't have to maintain a high speed as in A RACING SCENARIO.. What we do on track stays on track.
knees pressing the tank on the straights. You missed that too.
why please?
Aerodynamics and stability, but it also keeps some of the weight off of your hands & wrists
Meanwhile back on planet earth when the bs stops and pure skill needed
on you tube THE ROAD WARRIORS IRISH ROAD RACING SOUTHERN 100
dont think any these boy and girls paid for this school as not riding a gp
bike
The instructor is very good, but doesn't he sound like Cleveland from Family guy?
"One butt cheek"
man is everybody wearing leathers while sitting
is this what we learn when we take an advanced riding course? I just saved 100€
+Carlos Pinto Advice; there's a difference between watching and doing. Trying some of this stuff especially on a public road without prior track practice and you will likely do it wrong with severe consequences. Good technique takes practice. It doesn't just happen. On a track, there are few dangers of hitting dangerous objects like trees, walls or oncoming traffic. Learn these techniques on a track and you will become a MUCH safer rider on the roads. After numerous track days I'm now much safer on the roads than I used to be, but tidier and faster. BUT - the day you get cocky and think you know it all is the day you come unstuck. If you ever stop learning on a bike it's time to give up.