8 bit vs 10 bit Color: What's the Difference?
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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2016
- There are a lot of misconceptions for what higher bit depth images actually get you, so I thought I would explain it. More bits adds more information to the image so it's usually easier to process video and photos in post and avoiding banding.
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Me: that just bought a 10bit mointor trying to understand why I want it
256 shades of gray
ayyy
+budandbri how about 65536?
+DieEneGozer ;) You got it.
actually it's 254... 0 and 255 are considered black and white.
So yeah.
but since nothing in the world is black nor white(perfect light absorber/reflector) then these are shades of grey BUT WAIT! since your screen can never be 100% calibrated you might never be able to view any shade of grey!
No matter how you calibrate it you can only jump in 1/256 steps of color in each channel so you can never achieve the perfect balance.
+HAWXLEADER yeah but you can make and save a color profile to a usb stick to use on all your monitors if the same brand and model for monitors that allow such
"perfect" is a dream but all being the same offset for each color is possible with some monitors
Can I just say this is easily the best looking youtube video I've ever seen? Nice to see someone managed to figure out youtube's crazy compression.
I was thinking the same thing. Looks damn good🤌
One of the neatest and most precise videos i've seen. You have a wonderful way of presenting. Thank you for the information!
Great explanation. Well done.
Very well done ThioJoeTech. People need to know something about digital color before they understand you, but I think most people interested in this stuff can understand you. Thanks for making this understandable without showing off or putting people down. Really good!
good video dude, nice and concise. I think all the other videos on the topic are mostly around 30mins+ with huge intros that no one cares for. good length and very clear. kudos
Calm, unspectacular, informative. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks.
After going from CRT to IPS I instantly saw that "banding" which was missing on CRT. Going from 85-120Hz to 60Hz was less jarring than those things.
Best explanation for 8bit vs 10bit. Thanks so much!
great video but how do I turn my 8 bit monitor into a 10 bit? I was gonna try putting it in the microwave but it won't fit.
poo on it, that worked for me... i think
Great explanation. Clear voice, sharp image, great lighting... Amazingly done.
this video is so clear it confused my eyes for a second when i started watching, damn, great vid
Extremely clear! Thanks so much for taking the time to explain this!
I like that he gets to it. There are so many videos where you have six minutes of content and six minutes of goofing' around.
Very good explanation. Thank you!
I always just go with my common sense and assume its better quality but wow very nice breakdown, im guessing for the average person it doesn’t matter rather than a video/photography editor
This is still the best videosI’ve seen covering this. Only thing that was left out was covering temporal dithering. I despise temporal dithering.
Very very useful, thank you so much, it clarifies a lot of basics I didn't have.
You explained this very well! Thanks!
CZcams supports now 10-Bit HDR :)
great, do you have 10 bit monitor?
@@vladodome any mid range value phone not from Samsung can do hdr.
@@jamesisaac7684 HDR is not equal to bit depth
@@bumlebubbi THANK YOU!
I have 12bit on my tv
There is a second caveat - you won't get 10-bit image with just 10-bit monitor - you will need a graphics card that supports 10-bit output too (quadro, firepro) or a capture/playback box that can handle this.
Otherwise you will be pushing 10-bit image through 8-bit card output to 10-bit monitor. This restriction affects only the monitoring signal and not the rendered file output.
Please correct me if i'm wrong.
Thank you so much! I love adding pink to my sunset photos but hate those lines it makes. Now I know why!
The quality of this video is astounding. I cannot fucking understand how 99% of CZcams content creators with MILLIONS of subscribers don't use a 1080p 60fps camera. Even 720p 60fps is acceptable. 60fps is just beautiful!
The lighting you used and camera you recorded with looks really nice.
Handbrake does offer H264 10 bit encoding, and I tried converting a video using this setting. The finished video does play on my Mac but my DVR says it is an unsupported file type. I am using the Ematic AT103B DVR which allows videos to be played from a USB Flash Drive. I do a lot of video editing an processing so make sure to test your DVR to see if H264 10 bit is even supported for playback.
Regarding the basics, especially regarding the number of shades and number of bits, very well done. For a complete novice this should be understandable. (I have a masters in math and informatics, and I like it.)
Also I didn't Know you can see low bit resolution on a histogram. Keep it up, ThioJoe. Educate!
Great video, clear and easy explanation, thank you!!!
Great explanation. I was not clear why they double for each bit! Mentioning the binary 0 and 1 helps. I read some where how to calculate binary and this all make sense why they double for each bit.
dude your camera video mode looks amazing
V clear explanation. Thanks for making this video.
Beautifully explained .
Which focus mode are you using when shooting this video? The focus looks really good. I would guess "Macro" or "Continuous video macro". Just curious.
Great video. Super helpful breakdown. Cheers!
Thank you for the detailed explanation..
I would like to ask something else..
If a camera supports to shoot V-log or D-log does it mean that it can captures colours at 10-bit or this is irrelevant?
Great video, Mico. Explains everything in a simple and understandable way. What you were explained in this video I already know but I will subscribe to get more videos on other topics from you. :)
Well done dude for explaining it so simply! Most people can't seem to manage it haha
Thanks Joe. Easily explained.
Great explanation. Thanks!
Great video quality. I like the sharpness and color of this video. Could you tell me what camera and lens are you using? and the lighting condition of this video? Based on the reflection from your eyes, I guess you have two lights in from of you ?
Thanks... This explains soooo much. Have been wondering all the things with 8 bit and 10bit... And nVidia call it 30bit display... And games 16million colors and so on. You explained it very very well! Thumbs up. Also nice with the explanation on contrast and gradient shading.!!
Amazing video. Thank you for an in depth, easy to understand video! Subbed.
Thanks , Thio. It was very helpful ☺
Very clear and straight to the point!
That's what a loved about this video. I wanted to know the difference between the two and he presented the answer direct and to the point. Great video.
Nice Information, thank you. Which camera did you use? looks really sharp
i guess the KRP-500M as i use has a 10 bit panel because 10bit videos looks really amazing on it.
you can clearly see that the image has alot of more colors in it compared to 8 bit.
thanks for explaining this, it is very helpful to consider this since I saw the new Panasonic GH5 has it, but didn't know exactly how big of a benefit this means
Thanks, Joe.
Awesome. Super helpful! Thank you
What the difference between fake 8 bit FRC (6 bit + 2 bit interpolation) vs true 8 bit? How to know if the monitor is true 8 bit not the 6 bit? Thanks.
The difference between fake 8 bit FRC and native 8 bit color reproduction is that the 6 bit + 2 bit FRC monitor can only natively display true shades of color belonging to the 6 bit color spectrum. However, the FRC allows it to emulate colors in the 8 bit spectrum by flashing two 6 bit colors (say for example color 200 and 202) on each side of an 8 bit color value (in this case 201) fast enough for them to perceptibly blend and give the impression it is showing the true native 8 bit color shade.
totay understood, so much clear about the cameras now :P, no wonder every time u see more and more videos u learn something new, its like its never gonna end learning
Well-broken down! Thank you!
Great explanation. Thank you!
Love this explanation. Thanks. very important to know
i feel so proud every time i spot that a video is 60fps without checking the settings XD
fantastic video , Thio ! :D
Awesome explanation. Good job.
My Xbox one x says my tv (which isn't hdr) supports 10 bit at 4k 60hz but when I change it from 8 to 10 bit the pictures seems much darker but more vivid should I try to keep it at 10bit so see how I go with it or switch back?
Excellent explanation
Good job
Just got a 4K HDR Monitor. Things lookin stellar during gaming. Plus CZcams just started HDR support and the few compatible videos I could find look fantastic
Excellent video!! You're very clear and articulate! :)
I like your video. I have few question to know how you achieved this awesome quality.
1. Which camera did you use
2. Which lens did you use
3. Which resolution and frame rate (maybe not rate) did you use to record. (4K?)
4. Which resolution and frame rate did you set your project on.
5. Which resolution did you render with? Upscaled ? Downscale?
Thank you for your response.
Very helpful video, Thank you!
Extremely well explained. I do get it now. Big thanks and respect.
Great subject Joe but I was wondered same as many people here about what camera, lens and lighting you were using for shooting this video. Very good details and color reproduction. Please let us know. Thanks
so in terms of gaming? between an 8 bit panel and a 10 bit. are you going to notice a difference?
Great video and good explanation.
Awesome as always
Does 10 bit and 8 bit work the same in photography as in videos? How can you tell what a sony a7siii shoots photos in?
Fantastic description! Bravo
This video is great!! Thank you!!
Very helpful. Thanks!
Your shirt is 10 bit.
Thanks for the video, super good!
I can have 12 bit with 120hz or 8bit with 175hz, or 144hz with 10bit. what should I use and why?
Great explanation
Thanks man very useful video
that is an awesome explanation even it is simple
Thanks bro! Very helpful.
my monitor can do 4k60 8 bit RGB or 4k60 10 bit 4:2:2 .... i noticed my wallpaper colour looks so much punchier on the 10 bit... which setting should I be using ?
if CZcams compresses the image, why do your 10 but and 8 bit examples look different?
Good breakdown. Thanks.
Good to know my TV is ready for the future
Great explanation.
Good explanation but how does resolution affect the bpc,if at all? I know this is an old post but maybe someone could help. I can't seem to find the info online for what im looking for. I have a monitor that can do 12bpc @ 1920x1080 and 8bpc @ 2048x1152. Which would produce a better image for gaming, the higher resolution with lower bpc or the lower resolution with higher bpc? theres also many Pixel Format's to choose, but RGB seems to look the best.
Nice video to understand this tech. I am confuse if I should buy expensive 10 bit tv or 8. Do the images or picture looks remarkably different ? Can our human eyes can differentiate between 10 bit or 8 bit images or videos while watching 6 to 8 feet.
I don't do gaming and want to watch 1 to 2 movies a week. Do my 8 bit tv Will display online 10 bit videos?
Very nice, thanks!
I thought it very interesting but I only will really use it if I plan to work with photograph or image-related jobs, right?
NVIDIA says their geforce doesn't support 10 bit. but I am getting 10 bpc and 12 bpc , is it same as 10 bit or 12 bit ?
awesome thioJoe ....keep uploading..
Video looks extremely crisp and clean, what camera do you use?
Thank you for the information.
Is it possible to play games in HDR with a PS4 pro on a 8bit panel?
Samsung KU6000 60" 4K UHD HDR Smart LED LCD TV
Thank you for this nice overview!
Hello, Dexter Morgan.
Excellent! Thank you.
can we do 16 bpc vs 32 bpc (float)
Is basically more samples of each color or color to make it 100% clear and to understand it quickly.
Great explanation.... was easy for me to understand. Appreciate the effort you put into this vid.
Thanks again. (Although I'm like more than 3 and 1/2 yrs late ;))
Can someone please tell me if 8 bit will give u better performance ( less input lag faster response time) instead of 10.
Please answer if you know for sure, thanks.
Usjng an xbox one x on a Samsung 32hg70
What would the bitrate be if I wanted 50 shades of grey?
thanks for the info sean faris