jeramahia123 Yeah i respect that when i saw her first i though she will be like closed or something but it seems like female krogan are more like the brain of krogans
Look, I'm just saying, if *romanceable* Krogan were ever a thing, I definitely wouldn't OUTRIGHT say NO to Eve. Just saying. She's....fucking incredible. I've never been that in LOVE with a PERSONALITY, of all things. Like, look, most of us are KINDA shallow, so looks factor into it, but if there was a human that was like Eve out there....damn. I'm LITERALLY into men, and I'd consider it. Think about that.
I cure the genophage every time, for real, because of the line from Eve. “Sisters would walk off into the wastes, hoping a thresher maw would kill them and end their torment.” “Did the thought ever cross your mind?” *”Yes. After my first stillborn.”* No one should ever have to live with that pain willingly inflicted upon them.
Yes I’m so glad they put this in as someone who went threw this the pain of having a child that should be full of live but Isn’t is unbearable pain it feels like you shouldn’t even be able to breath. If it weren’t for having Christ to lean on in my pain I fear I would have taken my life because the thoughts did cross my mind on more than one occasion. So I can completely relate to Eve and the female krogans in this game it’s heart wrenching
The Genophage was a quick solution, but far more horrific that the Krogan Rebellion could ever have been. It should have been used to sue for peace, and then another solution should have been found.
@@thegreatkate3336 I’m not a Christian but you have the love and remorse of my gods and my heart, I know your Christ will treat such child with respect if he is accurate to the Bible. Freya and Eir Kaerasta hjarta modir.
Damn. Eve actually make me feel like there is real hope for the Krogan. like i trust Wrex to keep them in line but Eve makes me believe they can thrive.
Wrex has the strength and capacity to look at the bigger picture. Eve has the wisdom (not that Wrex is that far behind, he just usually let's his strength for the talking as it's necessary with krogan sometimes)
Eve is good enough that even if Wrex is dead, she can keep wreav in line since Eve just units all female krogan under 1 banner and make it so that all new krogans follow her ideals instead of Wreav. But if Eve is dead and Wreav is in the lead. There's no hope for Krogans
@@guilhermehank4938wrex has given up on all current generations honestly he believed the best way was teach the young better while protecting the current population
@@storminmaywrex is just as good as councilor he is willing to compromise as long as his people don’t suffer reasonable I am concerned he wasn’t worried about overpopulation as per female there is dozens of kids per year now and even with the entire Krogan DMZ as their territory they would need a new planet to colonize every 100 years for tens of thousands of years due to Krogan never going sterile naturally with age and their functionally immortality
Eve is amazing. Out of all the ME characters, I think Eve is the only person who Shepard is slightly intimidated by, and it's not because Eve is aggressive or confrontational - it's because she's wise and dignified.
And hilariously enough he'd come to regret it because he can't even get out of his room without being hogged by the women to the point of escaping through the bathroom window lmao.
Eve- im glad to see humans treat women with respect Shepard- just be careful, there are some men who have deluded themselves into thinking they're women
@Jacob St.Clair You're the SJW here getting angry and whining over a truthful Yt comment. In the YT comment section. That's EXACTLY what he's talking about.
You have to save Maelon's data in ME2 otherwise she'll die whilst Mordin is synthisizing the cure, also you have to defuse the bomb on Tuchanka otherwise she'll be in the area affected when it detonates
The Krogans really are amazing. The men grow up being told they have nothing to live for, but the women have to watch their sons, who are each so precious, fall into violence or despair. That makes them tougher than any merc leader.
When you travel through the ruins of Tuchanka, I forget which game, you learn that they were not always the warlike people we know them now. Long before that they were a largely peaceable, matrifocal if not matriarchal society. With a rich culture, beautiful architecture and an attitude toward nature as much marked by love as it was by respect for it. It just occurred to me what might have become of it. The salarians spoke of "uplifting" the krogan. They imply they were always brutal savages with no culture or civilization. I realize now the dalatrass was probably lying. What really happened is that they came along and turned sons against the wisdom of their mothers...in order to create a weapon of war.
not really, violence has always been an integral part of their culture, they nuked themselves into the stone age long before the Salarians ever even heard of Krogan. yeah, they probably had some beautiful culture and architecture in the past but it was never peaceful, the leading cause of Krogan deaths ever since the invention of gunpowder has been bullet wounds.
Yet another reason why I will never, ever take the Dalatrass' deal. I won't betray my friends over someone I barely know who has a history of being untrustworthy.
I think nobody actually tried to understand the krogan on their terms. Each council race is known to be arrogant and thinking their way is better. Had they tried to understand the krogan on their end, maybe the rebellions could have been avoided
The fact that they nuked their own planet into near-extinction makes this invalid. The Krogan were always war-like, even in their ancestral days. The Salarians just did the equivalent of giving the ancient Aztecs and unlimited supply of chainsaws and hand grenades.
@@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit🎉the issue by that logic we are also a terrible warlike species the issue was they probably cornered some dictator with some nukes and everything went to shit or someone made a massive mistake
The irony is that the krogan now have Eve and Wrex leading them, and so have the greatest leaders in Council space. So much for the backwards krogan narrative the council liked
Eve may have been a late addition to the series, but she was one of the best parts of it: she's wise, gentle, and caring, but also has a great sense of humor, and I love her relationship with Wrex! Honestly, I kinda wish she could have been a party member: we know she can handle a shotgun with the best of them!
This is why I like picking Fem shep. It makes moments like this seem more impactful, and Grunt is like Her child. Even when she says “I love you grunt.” That definitely got to me.
"There is no reason to exist other than the hope that the next day will bring change. And if it doesnt, there is always the next." This is probably the greatest quote in all of video games.
See now, THIS is how you create a strong female character, without it coming off as forced and overly SJW. Everything we learn about Eve organically fits in with what we’ve learned about the Krogan over the years since ME1. Plus, her perspective adds a whole new layer of depth to the Krogan lore, making them seem like much more than just mindless killers, as our biases would have us believe from earlier encounters. Plus the voice actress is just a perfect fit. Very well done.
there's nothing wrong with this scene, and anyone who thinks otherwise is either reading into it too much, or is a reactionary in response to SJWs, leading to a horrible cycle of extremes perpetuating each other. Especially since Eve is discussing the gender dynamics of THE KROGAN. The series repeatedly shows that humanity has become egalitarian by this point in its history, and the Krogan are different enough from us that I wouldn't read her statements on Krogan males being any sort of critique of current human society. And there's nothing wrong with her saying that the female Krogan need to be more than just a barganing chip, and need to have a proper place in Krogan politics again. Bioware doesn't try to address social issues by attacking them. It tries to give the user a place to escape them by weaving universes where said social issues are significantly minimized.
Yeah, it's hard not to see SJWs everywhere after getting involved with anti-SJW culture, but Eve is fine. Don't want to have too much SJW in your anti-SJW, after all.
Besides the only true SJW issue that came out of ME 3 is that you can suddenly make Sheppard gay/lesbian which I have no problem with. I believe in the freedom of choice and I also understand that gamers always put themselves in their characters, nothing wrong of that. It's just the gay/lesbian option always should of been present otherwise it just looks weird.
@@danieltobin4498 I don't even remember anymore and at this point I'm done with trying to be nice; if someone tells people to make their own games to have representation in and then gets mad that someone made a fantasy world with the representation they always wanted, that someone deserves to get slam dunked so hard it leaves a crater. Call me an sjw, I don't even care; let me live in a fantasy world where I matter when my reality tells me that anywhere I try to go I won't, and it's not even my fault.
BioWare was smart to add Eve, if you weren’t sold on a good Krogan future then now you are. Wrex seemed like a good person who’d keep them in line, but Eve makes you hope for a good future for their kind.
She's a beautiful character inside and out. She's endured a lot of suffering in her life but she's worked hard to be a pillar of strength for her sisters.
Well I mean, she's wearing a niqab so in terms of physical beauty, I honestly have no idea. That said, krogan are essentially giant turtles. But as a person? Yes, Eve is beautiful.
I read somewhere that if she coughs she will die on Tuchunka due to you not stopping Cerberus in time back on Sur'kesh. Does anyone know if this is true?
Shadowdarkish TLDR: She would definitely die if she had been coughing. If she wasn't coughing, she could live or die depending on the Commander's action/inaction. Eve's cough is a reflection of her health status. A choice made back in Mass Effect 2 will affect her health in Mass Effect 3. If she is in poor health, she will not survive the end of the Tuchanka story arc. If she is in good health, she would survive the story arc but she may still die off-screen if the Commander does not pursue additional side missions that impact Tuchanka.
Slaaneshi Rubric Marine I know now. But thanks for answering. Before I was having an issue with the data being transferred from ME2 (such as Mealon's data not being saved, Kasumi, Zaeed and Legion not being in the game and not having a romance option even though I chose Ashley) but I fixed the issue.
Many argued, 'yeah, Wrex & Eve are good & all, but they're just two krogans. they've no chance in steering the rest in a different direction'. but then, they also seem to have forgotten that heads of communities, especially those that command genuine respect & awe, are effective opinion leaders. i'd hate to use this as an example, but just look at Hitler. he's possibly the most powerful orator for the past century. his words sway the German population so effectively that they became mostly hateful assholes. with both Wrex & Eve playing such a pivotal role in this whole damn thing, chances are good that their opinions will be the ones that matter, & lucky for the krogan, their opinions are the ones leading the krogan to a brighter, more harmonious future. With that said, with those two aboard, i always go on to cure the genophage. the racist, asshat dalatrass can cram her support up her ass.
I would not go so far as to say that Hitler turned the German populace into 'mostly hateful assholes'. Most Germans of the time were not Nazis, or even necessarily strong supporters of the Nazis. Many Germans were simply swept up in a demand for change and an improvement of their well being, and to see a return of nationalistic pride. To compare with a relatively milder example, a great many Americans supported Trump, but I do not for one minute believe that this makes most Americans mostly hateful arseholes. In the case of Hitler, he was voted in to oppose a disintegrating democratic government when people became fed up with the way things were run, and his promises of change galvanized people into accepting some of his more extreme views. It should be noted that a great many of his more hostile policies entered mainstream Nazi doctrine only after Germany became a dictatorship, at which point the general opinion of the people was very easy to portray as what he wanted them to believe. That said, I think your point about Wrex and Eve is fairly valid.
Mark Salter When i said 'his words sway the German population so effectively that they became mostly hateful assholes.', i was summarizing the process. of course the Germans don't turn into assholes overnight just because someone up there tell them to be asshole, similar with the case with Donald Trump & the US. but as you put it yourself, you just need a powerful push to start getting things moving the way you want it. given that internet didn't exist back then & people can't know any better, the general masses in Germany eventually came to accept all those shit Hitler pulled to be the norm. somehow i sure hope people of the US is resistant enough to avoid turning into an asshole like Trump. That said, the process can work both ways. & i sure hope Wrex & Eve have enough of what it takes to eventually change the Krogan.
From an evolutionary response. Human's and Krogan have pack animal mentality for survival so it will be incredibly easy for Alpha's to control the population. The difference between us and Krogan is that Krogan are much more violent in nature so that there are Alpha's popping up all the time which explains why they are so fractured. Krogan needed an external threat in order to unite them due to their aggression and humanity I always believed needs an external threat in order to unite. And even in the Mass Effect universe, humanity is still technically not united.
I was playing without importing the save from ME2 and my Eve coughed too and died. Now I have some save editor and I want to play through once again because so many nice characters had been considered dead and I couldn't meet them (that sucks!). If this data from ME2 is saved then do Eve may survive?
There have only been two recorded instances of "women and children first" being implemented when it came to evacuating ships. Two. In the entirety of human history.
The worst thing about this OMG OFFENSIVE THING is that this is a giant lizard woman talking about giant lizard gender dynamics. Why does that bother anyone?
Really!? The question that should be can we ALL treat EACH OTHER with RESPECT, no one side should get any privileges over the other automatically just because a couple of idiots act unruly. At least that's what I believe.
Ivy as a Dark Elf Krogan Queen is now the voice actors title in my opinion. She hates Krogan women not having a day and is strong as hell dreaming of fixing windhelms racism with the Grey Quarters and blows off steam by dressing as a provocative older dominatrix that never seems to age.
What argument? You weren't making a point. You were trying to obfuscate the issue whereas the rest of us were making rational, evidence-based arguments. I have extensively studied sexism which was why I was able to refute your "women and children first" point. Just because you were proven wrong doesn't mean I'm dismissing you without studying. Kid, don't get into fights when you have no idea how to research or argue your point.
About damn time there's some talking of gender roles in a game :P I'm sure it's been done, but this is awesome. i always hated like in dragon age where all genders were strangely equal...
I have seen alot of different subjects being debated as a result of ME3, but Feminism? Bioware achieved debate on Feminism? Really? They're smarter then I thought.
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Eve's an amazing character. She's so wise and formal, but also casual enough to have a sense of humor and open about her feelings.
jeramahia123
Yeah i respect that when i saw her first i though she will be like closed or something but it seems like female krogan are more like the brain of krogans
Yes, she is a character that I had hoped to see more on the games, her voice acting, lines and story are just amazing
"Very clumsy." ... Still funny, even if I saw it only on youtube.
Look, I'm just saying, if *romanceable* Krogan were ever a thing, I definitely wouldn't OUTRIGHT say NO to Eve. Just saying. She's....fucking incredible. I've never been that in LOVE with a PERSONALITY, of all things. Like, look, most of us are KINDA shallow, so looks factor into it, but if there was a human that was like Eve out there....damn. I'm LITERALLY into men, and I'd consider it. Think about that.
Her, wrex and grunt are why the krogan are my favorite species in mass effect.
I cure the genophage every time, for real, because of the line from Eve. “Sisters would walk off into the wastes, hoping a thresher maw would kill them and end their torment.”
“Did the thought ever cross your mind?”
*”Yes. After my first stillborn.”*
No one should ever have to live with that pain willingly inflicted upon them.
Yes I’m so glad they put this in as someone who went threw this the pain of having a child that should be full of live but Isn’t is unbearable pain it feels like you shouldn’t even be able to breath. If it weren’t for having Christ to lean on in my pain I fear I would have taken my life because the thoughts did cross my mind on more than one occasion. So I can completely relate to Eve and the female krogans in this game it’s heart wrenching
The Genophage was a quick solution, but far more horrific that the Krogan Rebellion could ever have been.
It should have been used to sue for peace, and then another solution should have been found.
@@darthlazurus4382 it should have been a temporary solution until the krogan decided to stop their conquests and actually behave civilly
No one deserves to go through that...
@@thegreatkate3336 I’m not a Christian but you have the love and remorse of my gods and my heart, I know your Christ will treat such child with respect if he is accurate to the Bible. Freya and Eir Kaerasta hjarta modir.
"Her spirit will be the midwife to my firstborn."
What a beautifully written character.
"In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." This line always gets to me...
I wish that would've been true for the ending
Damn. Eve actually make me feel like there is real hope for the Krogan. like i trust Wrex to keep them in line but Eve makes me believe they can thrive.
Wrex has the strength and capacity to look at the bigger picture. Eve has the wisdom (not that Wrex is that far behind, he just usually let's his strength for the talking as it's necessary with krogan sometimes)
Eve is good enough that even if Wrex is dead, she can keep wreav in line since Eve just units all female krogan under 1 banner and make it so that all new krogans follow her ideals instead of Wreav.
But if Eve is dead and Wreav is in the lead. There's no hope for Krogans
I always thought Wrex should stay as a Krogan leader but that Eve would make an amazing Krogan councilor on the Citadel.
@@guilhermehank4938wrex has given up on all current generations honestly he believed the best way was teach the young better while protecting the current population
@@storminmaywrex is just as good as councilor he is willing to compromise as long as his people don’t suffer reasonable I am concerned he wasn’t worried about overpopulation as per female there is dozens of kids per year now and even with the entire Krogan DMZ as their territory they would need a new planet to colonize every 100 years for tens of thousands of years due to Krogan never going sterile naturally with age and their functionally immortality
Eve is amazing. Out of all the ME characters, I think Eve is the only person who Shepard is slightly intimidated by, and it's not because Eve is aggressive or confrontational - it's because she's wise and dignified.
She's like a queen, that's what she is.
+Rosebunse For she's the Krogan Queen
Hoorah hoorah to the Krogan Queen~
i think respect, not intimidation
Fun fact: the voice actor for "Eve" also was the voice actor for Ivy from Soul Caliber V and was a voice actor in Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim.
And also Bubsy Bobcat from Bubsy 3D! The best platformer ever made
Soul Calibur, that's where I heard it from! Knew it sounded vaguely familiar.
Yeah. I recognize that voice from dunmer females.
Yep. Lani Minella
She also voices the Bloaters in The Last Of Us
"When he's not trying to sire half of Tuchanka-"
Hey Wrex sounds like my kinda guy
And hilariously enough he'd come to regret it because he can't even get out of his room without being hogged by the women to the point of escaping through the bathroom window lmao.
@@alexmason1604by the time the line is finished it has been a year and they are ready to mate again
Eve- im glad to see humans treat women with respect
Shepard- just stay away from the CZcams comment section
Eve- im glad to see humans treat women with respect
Shepard- just be careful, there are some men who have deluded themselves into thinking they're women
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww wtf
@Jacob St.Clair You're the SJW here getting angry and whining over a truthful Yt comment. In the YT comment section. That's EXACTLY what he's talking about.
@@FarikoWishless you are the sjw as well for typing long ass reply.
You have to save Maelon's data in ME2 otherwise she'll die whilst Mordin is synthisizing the cure, also you have to defuse the bomb on Tuchanka otherwise she'll be in the area affected when it detonates
PKBitchGirl done and done on my many gameplays through 2&3.
Did all of that on my first playthrough.
I love the sound of Eve's voice!
its the sound of at least 90% of Skyrim's dark elves
lol irelith from skyrim
The Krogans really are amazing. The men grow up being told they have nothing to live for, but the women have to watch their sons, who are each so precious, fall into violence or despair. That makes them tougher than any merc leader.
I think after the series the men are taught that they do have something to live for.
No different from human men but more extreme.
When you travel through the ruins of Tuchanka, I forget which game, you learn that they were not always the warlike people we know them now. Long before that they were a largely peaceable, matrifocal if not matriarchal society. With a rich culture, beautiful architecture and an attitude toward nature as much marked by love as it was by respect for it.
It just occurred to me what might have become of it. The salarians spoke of "uplifting" the krogan. They imply they were always brutal savages with no culture or civilization.
I realize now the dalatrass was probably lying. What really happened is that they came along and turned sons against the wisdom of their mothers...in order to create a weapon of war.
not really, violence has always been an integral part of their culture, they nuked themselves into the stone age long before the Salarians ever even heard of Krogan.
yeah, they probably had some beautiful culture and architecture in the past but it was never peaceful, the leading cause of Krogan deaths ever since the invention of gunpowder has been bullet wounds.
Yet another reason why I will never, ever take the Dalatrass' deal. I won't betray my friends over someone I barely know who has a history of being untrustworthy.
I think nobody actually tried to understand the krogan on their terms. Each council race is known to be arrogant and thinking their way is better. Had they tried to understand the krogan on their end, maybe the rebellions could have been avoided
The fact that they nuked their own planet into near-extinction makes this invalid.
The Krogan were always war-like, even in their ancestral days. The Salarians just did the equivalent of giving the ancient Aztecs and unlimited supply of chainsaws and hand grenades.
@@LamborghiniDiabloSVPursuit🎉the issue by that logic we are also a terrible warlike species the issue was they probably cornered some dictator with some nukes and everything went to shit or someone made a massive mistake
The irony is that the krogan now have Eve and Wrex leading them, and so have the greatest leaders in Council space. So much for the backwards krogan narrative the council liked
Eve may have been a late addition to the series, but she was one of the best parts of it: she's wise, gentle, and caring, but also has a great sense of humor, and I love her relationship with Wrex! Honestly, I kinda wish she could have been a party member: we know she can handle a shotgun with the best of them!
Just out of curiosity what class do you think she would be?
I personally would love a vanguard or sentinel
Eve is a wonderful character.
She seem unusually spiritual for krogan. I like her... Looking forward to ME3.
This is why I like picking Fem shep. It makes moments like this seem more impactful, and Grunt is like Her child. Even when she says “I love you grunt.” That definitely got to me.
FemShep is only Shep ! :3
"There is no reason to exist other than the hope that the next day will bring change. And if it doesnt, there is always the next." This is probably the greatest quote in all of video games.
Did you know that Eve is voiced by Lani Minella, who voiced Rouge the Bat in the Sonic games until 4Kids took over?
See now, THIS is how you create a strong female character, without it coming off as forced and overly SJW. Everything we learn about Eve organically fits in with what we’ve learned about the Krogan over the years since ME1. Plus, her perspective adds a whole new layer of depth to the Krogan lore, making them seem like much more than just mindless killers, as our biases would have us believe from earlier encounters.
Plus the voice actress is just a perfect fit. Very well done.
there's nothing wrong with this scene, and anyone who thinks otherwise is either reading into it too much, or is a reactionary in response to SJWs, leading to a horrible cycle of extremes perpetuating each other. Especially since Eve is discussing the gender dynamics of THE KROGAN. The series repeatedly shows that humanity has become egalitarian by this point in its history, and the Krogan are different enough from us that I wouldn't read her statements on Krogan males being any sort of critique of current human society. And there's nothing wrong with her saying that the female Krogan need to be more than just a barganing chip, and need to have a proper place in Krogan politics again.
Bioware doesn't try to address social issues by attacking them. It tries to give the user a place to escape them by weaving universes where said social issues are significantly minimized.
Yeah, it's hard not to see SJWs everywhere after getting involved with anti-SJW culture, but Eve is fine. Don't want to have too much SJW in your anti-SJW, after all.
@Jacob St.Clair REEEEEEEEEE
Besides the only true SJW issue that came out of ME 3 is that you can suddenly make Sheppard gay/lesbian which I have no problem with. I believe in the freedom of choice and I also understand that gamers always put themselves in their characters, nothing wrong of that. It's just the gay/lesbian option always should of been present otherwise it just looks weird.
Wait, people didn't like Eve?
@@danieltobin4498 I don't even remember anymore and at this point I'm done with trying to be nice; if someone tells people to make their own games to have representation in and then gets mad that someone made a fantasy world with the representation they always wanted, that someone deserves to get slam dunked so hard it leaves a crater. Call me an sjw, I don't even care; let me live in a fantasy world where I matter when my reality tells me that anywhere I try to go I won't, and it's not even my fault.
A true krogan woman. Wrex is a lucky man.
3:05 - 3:09 The voice acting is great here. You can hear the pain.
BioWare was smart to add Eve, if you weren’t sold on a good Krogan future then now you are. Wrex seemed like a good person who’d keep them in line, but Eve makes you hope for a good future for their kind.
Does anyone else think Eve is beautiful even though she's a krogan?
Rosebunse I'd marry her, despite being krogan - for diplomatic reasons, of course. I doubt she'd think a squishy little human could satisfy her.
jeramahia123
I LOVE HER VOICE!
jeramahia123 Then you'll need some facial scar.
She's a beautiful character inside and out. She's endured a lot of suffering in her life but she's worked hard to be a pillar of strength for her sisters.
Well I mean, she's wearing a niqab so in terms of physical beauty, I honestly have no idea. That said, krogan are essentially giant turtles.
But as a person? Yes, Eve is beautiful.
Eve is the galadriel of the series
I feel bad about Eve getting off the table every time I talk to her. Why doesn't she just sit on the table and talk to me from there?
People find this offencive? Watched the entire thing and I wasn't offended once. *shrug* oh well.
Hell yes. Now that's a real woman. Eve is awesome.
Eve = Irileth
Also all dunmer females (except few of them used young eager )
Some idiot: "HURR! Te Saliruns were rite! Genofage iz gude!"
2:52: Pfft, OK, hun.
Should've been the krogan squadmate
if you have malons data she will be cured
So I take it you destroyed Maelon's cure since Eve is coughing?
Perceptive
Yeah? What about me? LOL Truthfully I was entirely surprised at how pulled back and "normal" they wanted Eve to sound. Oh well.
@@lyrethederg you are very kind. Thank you!
Probably one of the series most underrated characters.
As someone who usually plays as male shepard, I liked hearing the end of that. Made me chuckle.
sadly Eve dies in my playthru but i have a headcanon that my Shepard names her future adopted Krogan daughter after Eve :'))
She's Coughing , she'll die.
Sooo... We have 4 volus charachtes in the multiplayer, but not one krogan female? Bioware, may inquire: What the fuck?
Probably cause the females are now able to finally have children again and are taking care of them cause they give birth crazy fast.
Female Krogan is playable in ME:A's MP.
She one of the reasons why Mass Effect is great
I read somewhere that if she coughs she will die on Tuchunka due to you not stopping Cerberus in time back on Sur'kesh. Does anyone know if this is true?
Shadowdarkish TLDR: She would definitely die if she had been coughing. If she wasn't coughing, she could live or die depending on the Commander's action/inaction.
Eve's cough is a reflection of her health status. A choice made back in Mass Effect 2 will affect her health in Mass Effect 3. If she is in poor health, she will not survive the end of the Tuchanka story arc. If she is in good health, she would survive the story arc but she may still die off-screen if the Commander does not pursue additional side missions that impact Tuchanka.
+Shadowdarkish She will die, but that means you haven't saved Mealon's data.
Slaaneshi Rubric Marine I know now. But thanks for answering. Before I was having an issue with the data being transferred from ME2 (such as Mealon's data not being saved, Kasumi, Zaeed and Legion not being in the game and not having a romance option even though I chose Ashley) but I fixed the issue.
He's a mutant, that I can tell you
Urdnot Bakara!!
As I played the German and English Version, the last part with Candle and Darkness is much better in terms of delivery in german sadly.
All bits and pieces of me, yes
Mass effect 3’s dialog is so masterful written that it hurts my ears when I play the first one.
Probably to save animation time and expense. I was a bit disappointed myself
I'm focused on Mordin singing about Asari-Vorcha offspring. I wouldn't think an Asari would want to mate with those ugly bastards... **Shudders**
0:01 You didn't save Maelin's data?
How dare you.
Many argued, 'yeah, Wrex & Eve are good & all, but they're just two krogans. they've no chance in steering the rest in a different direction'. but then, they also seem to have forgotten that heads of communities, especially those that command genuine respect & awe, are effective opinion leaders. i'd hate to use this as an example, but just look at Hitler. he's possibly the most powerful orator for the past century. his words sway the German population so effectively that they became mostly hateful assholes. with both Wrex & Eve playing such a pivotal role in this whole damn thing, chances are good that their opinions will be the ones that matter, & lucky for the krogan, their opinions are the ones leading the krogan to a brighter, more harmonious future.
With that said, with those two aboard, i always go on to cure the genophage. the racist, asshat dalatrass can cram her support up her ass.
I would not go so far as to say that Hitler turned the German populace into 'mostly hateful assholes'. Most Germans of the time were not Nazis, or even necessarily strong supporters of the Nazis. Many Germans were simply swept up in a demand for change and an improvement of their well being, and to see a return of nationalistic pride. To compare with a relatively milder example, a great many Americans supported Trump, but I do not for one minute believe that this makes most Americans mostly hateful arseholes. In the case of Hitler, he was voted in to oppose a disintegrating democratic government when people became fed up with the way things were run, and his promises of change galvanized people into accepting some of his more extreme views. It should be noted that a great many of his more hostile policies entered mainstream Nazi doctrine only after Germany became a dictatorship, at which point the general opinion of the people was very easy to portray as what he wanted them to believe.
That said, I think your point about Wrex and Eve is fairly valid.
Mark Salter When i said 'his words sway the German population so effectively that they became mostly hateful assholes.', i was summarizing the process. of course the Germans don't turn into assholes overnight just because someone up there tell them to be asshole, similar with the case with Donald Trump & the US. but as you put it yourself, you just need a powerful push to start getting things moving the way you want it. given that internet didn't exist back then & people can't know any better, the general masses in Germany eventually came to accept all those shit Hitler pulled to be the norm. somehow i sure hope people of the US is resistant enough to avoid turning into an asshole like Trump.
That said, the process can work both ways. & i sure hope Wrex & Eve have enough of what it takes to eventually change the Krogan.
@Jacob St.Clair exactly my thoughts. I support him. I'm Indian BTW.
From an evolutionary response. Human's and Krogan have pack animal mentality for survival so it will be incredibly easy for Alpha's to control the population. The difference between us and Krogan is that Krogan are much more violent in nature so that there are Alpha's popping up all the time which explains why they are so fractured. Krogan needed an external threat in order to unite them due to their aggression and humanity I always believed needs an external threat in order to unite. And even in the Mass Effect universe, humanity is still technically not united.
@@Seriona1 alpha's are bs. The guy who 1st wrote about said as much
2:03
GUHHHHHHH >.<
*shudder*
I've read that she can survive, but how to do that?
Save the korgan data in ME2
I'm guessing the coughing is because this Shepard didn't save Maelon's research.
did i hear that right? Asari-vorcha offspring? offspring? offspring?
@BodyDoubleAlarm Yes, they appear to have an allergy to dairy! :o
She seems more open to femshep
they told me to cough. I think she was just getting over the Phage or something
I was playing without importing the save from ME2 and my Eve coughed too and died. Now I have some save editor and I want to play through once again because so many nice characters had been considered dead and I couldn't meet them (that sucks!). If this data from ME2 is saved then do Eve may survive?
Kimasxi yes!
Yes. Maleon's data saved means Eve will not cough.
If wrex is died on virmire, eve will says that Wrex would have been a better leader than Wreav.
Thank you for being the sensible side my friend. Thank the salarians, they too are not all alike
@SartoriusSeven Krogan dont seem to be very physically diverse so its to be expected.
That character model looks like Wrex in a burqa.
maybe in the near future, hopefully before the first contact war.
1:41 could be a lord of the rings reference ?
I thank you. I think...LOL I hope that's a good thing
Does Eve have Corona virus I mean she keeps coughing!!!!
So now we have a feminist philosophist female krogan who becomes in one scenario a krogan leader...
There have only been two recorded instances of "women and children first" being implemented when it came to evacuating ships. Two. In the entirety of human history.
Hope one day males and females treat each other with respect. One day.
do you think women will evolve to that point?
Bjorick yeah, with mindsets like this, that one day is going to take a long time
@@lilyluu5924 Exactly. Women will take a long time to evolve to that stage.
@@lilyluu5924 and with men, we are already evolved. That's why you women can enjoy everything around you built by men.
Instead asari just have rampant racism for anyone born "pure-blood."
@m3xicanvoodoo22 I'd say it's light by Krogan standards.
5:59 this conversation became peak EA cringe
Not really, i am hardcore anti feminist and I found it to be ok
In context it makes sense considering how krogan treat thier females.
so what did eve join you or can she join you??? or if she lives she joins you and how doe she live?
The worst thing about this OMG OFFENSIVE THING is that this is a giant lizard woman talking about giant lizard gender dynamics. Why does that bother anyone?
According to the first comments.
I don't remember Eve coughing so much in my playthrough. Did you destroy the research?
Thats how to write a female character.
Really!? The question that should be can we ALL treat EACH OTHER with RESPECT, no one side should get any privileges over the other automatically just because a couple of idiots act unruly. At least that's what I believe.
Ivy as a Dark Elf Krogan Queen is now the voice actors title in my opinion. She hates Krogan women not having a day and is strong as hell dreaming of fixing windhelms racism with the Grey Quarters and blows off steam by dressing as a provocative older dominatrix that never seems to age.
@devams1 BECAUSE LIZARDS GIVE ME THE HEEBIE-JEEBIES! (:P)
@Tseuhadon Insulting? How?
Yes
now that I think about it....CHRIST YOUR RIGHT!
What argument? You weren't making a point. You were trying to obfuscate the issue whereas the rest of us were making rational, evidence-based arguments. I have extensively studied sexism which was why I was able to refute your "women and children first" point. Just because you were proven wrong doesn't mean I'm dismissing you without studying. Kid, don't get into fights when you have no idea how to research or argue your point.
i would have liked to have a female krogan in my squad xD
Coughing = Eve Dies right?
Prothean. ::)
Why is Eve coughing? Mine didn't cough at all.... What's going on?!?!?!?!?
Guy probably didn't save Maleon's research in ME2.
Eve is awesome.
I take it you destroyed Maelon's data? For me she only coughed all the time when I did that.
no, i'm creepy.
About damn time there's some talking of gender roles in a game :P I'm sure it's been done, but this is awesome. i always hated like in dragon age where all genders were strangely equal...
If she'd been a romance option I'd have made a FemShep PT for her in a heartbeat
Wait what? People think Eve's a feminazi character?
I didn't know we get offended as quickly as christian mothers...
I have seen alot of different subjects being debated as a result of ME3, but Feminism? Bioware achieved debate on Feminism? Really?
They're smarter then I thought.
600th like
Some tools think she's spreading a sexist message