My son, a college golfer, is playing the Ventus blue. He got fitted by a top fitter and ended up in a S flex tipped 3/4 inch even though his swing speed is close to 120. He loves this shaft too. He likes the smooth feel and control he gets from it.
What with Ian & Mikey being videoed in the dark - did Club Champion forget to pay the electricity bill? Yes I miss the chemistry of Matt & Ian, but TXG is still the best, most independent source of properly tested information on golf clubs & shafts
Ventus Blue has been automatic for me across the whole top part of my bag. I’ve always had different shafts in my long clubs but now Hybrid/Fw/Driver all Ventus Blue.
Regarding testing, i’m interested in knowing the differences across the HZRDUS line. There are many different products there, so seeing something on that would be valuable. Thanks.
Shafts are often overlooked when people go shopping for golf equipment, so I’m glad we (hopefully) will get more comparisons for more shaft product lines down the road. That said, I love that Ventus Blue and Ventus TR is more on “feel”. It just means more options for the average golfer. You said it best, Ian: Ventus Black is a very niche market, and so is the Ventus Blue. I feel like this is for those who are stuck in-between. Thanks!
From a pure entertainment perspective. I enjoyed this video the most since Matt left. I’d love to see more RB on the channel. The videos do seem really dry to me, very quiet and not as much fun any more.
Yeah I liked Matt’s presence a lot. Him an Ian had good chemistry, and Ian knew Matt’s golf game, so the technical talk flowed well. Gonna be hard to replace him IMO.
@@Chyeahokay... Mike has no charisma. It's just the ugly truth. People have different social styles and strengths. The camera is not one of his. He's too monotonous, and boring. Not a knock on his knowledge, or being a good fitter... He might get better, but he will never get like Matty boy, or someone who has a dynamic personality. It's not in his dna, and the flow and dialog suffers in contrast to Matt
Would love to learn more about "loft as a crutch" as someone who's constantly fitted into the lowest loft heads. Great review and really liked the addition of Ryan and what he brings to the process. I'm currently playing the Ventus Black 6S in my driver and Blue 80S in my hybrid. The idea of some black stability with more feel sounds really interesting.
I totally agree. I wonder if I’m in that category of player playing my current head at 7 degrees. I guess there’s no way of knowing without checking with a pro.
I have both a black and blue in 70s I have always played the lowest lofted head. But a fitter outside of my stander fitter (actually a TM fitter on a tour truck) pointed out to me that I’m losing to much ball speed trying to hit up. He actually pointed out DJs swing and how his Attack Angle with the driver is steep, which is why he plays a higher lofted driver over the typical bombers 4-8° heads. I swung a few shots with an 10.5° at 11° and my entire world was rocked. Because of my speed, nobody has ever put a higher lofted driver in my hands. It’s worth exploring, my smash went up, my spin went down. I don’t have to try and force my swing up on contact. I just deliver the head. I don’t know if that’s what he’s trying to get at, but I can say as a guy who swings 123 on average a higher lofted driver has actually improved a lot of my game.
Of course we miss Matty but I appreciate RB because his swing profile and numbers are almost identical to mine. I also appreciate what Ian said about adding loft instead of using a low-lofted head as a crutch. I'll try that.
Great video. Very informative. In my opinion, this particular video had a great deal of 'relatable' content for me personally. In addition to your unpacking of the three different Ventus shaft models, the side-topic of using low launch 'as a crutch' was something that was valuable to hear. Ryan, well done. Steeping into the spotlight in the 'here and now' takes some courage. Ian and Mikey, well done. I for one, continue to appreciate the information that TXG is sharing. Looking forward to more quality content as we go forward in 2022.
Excellent video. Always welcome listening Ian work through the various variables that impact golf shots - especially when it is the same theories but with different golfers (e.g. with Ryan this time). Feel like we are getting a PhD in golf club fitting concepts. Keep up the great work and look forward to more.
Just got fitted for new driver & shaft @ the weekend. I was hitting taylormade m3. Stiff shaft standard. Ended up walking away with cobra LTDx LS shaft black ventus fujikura 6x. The difference in a proper fitting is unreal. Expensive, but I'm looking forward to get it on the course once it's made
Just got fitted yesterday.. hit the ventus tr blue.. added 40 yards to my drive and cut my spin rate in half. Expensive.. but one of the best shafts on the market
PADERSON VELOCITY!!! Please test this shaft. You teased it late in December but never did a video on it! Anyways, you all can do no wrong in my eyes. Thanks for all the quality reviews. I’m your biggest fan.
its like watching my own swing. numbers are almost identical and i could never understand why i hit my irons quite far yet cant fly my driver past 270. now im seeing its my launch
Yes! Let’s get more from Ryan - i think his swing is very representative of many average golfers pushing for more speed. Would be great to see him hitting the new lineup of driver heads in a head2head scenario. Also would love to see shaft vs shaft comparisons of a couple of companies (e.g. graphite design vs Ventus vs Mitsubishi - all the versions that would suit his swing, to see what seems best). Love the content as always!!
I’d like to hear Ian’s comments on the value of fitting these premium shafts to the average golfer versus the stick shafts supplied by vendors. Is there value in dollars spent and or performance between the two?
They did a stock Ventus vs Velocore video ages ago and touched on something like this question I recall. As an 80-90 golfer that’s gone from stock shaft to premium ventus it’s 100% been worth it for me and changed my long game completely
There is many videos in CZcams about that, the difference is very minimal in most cases since many club manufacturer already offer a shaft setup that's pretty good fit with the head. For example with Ping and Taylormade, you can get get fit so well you don't really need a $400 shaft on top. But many buy these shafts because they want to, they look and feel cool.
@@NovaScene in my experience, none of the taylormade stock offerings worked for me but im more of a hitter with a very aggressive transition. . Ventus black brought my spin into a better window and helped out my super high launch. I did not purchase yet because I am going to look around and see what I can do about the insane cost of the stealth...might go to a PXG fitting as I can get their nicest driver with a $300 shaft for a stock Stealth price. The RDX red I really did like though and would certainly look to use that as a fairway wood shaft. It just launched higher and a bit more spinny.
While it’s lovely to see Matty’s crushing drives on the regular, it’s also nice to see someone with a more mere-mortal swing speed demoing the new technology!
Being super selfish here but would like to see a lot more RB on the channel. Our swings are fairly similar, so I’m pretty keen to see how he responds to different equipment.
Talking costs of the Ventus line, I've heard the UST Proforce V2 can work as a poor man's Ventus. I had a 60X in a Srixon 565 and I wasn't much for the feel but it was an accurate rocket launcher for sure. Had it playing at 44". May try a tipped one at 45" for fun. Also, good work by Barath. Enjoyed his MyGolfSpy articles and CZcams channel (when it was a thing).
Yes my nigga proforce v2 is best shaft for the money, try the white tspx v2 it’s their tour model, also recommend the gen 4 hzrds black, On a different note, Autoflex is also a great shaft only I destroyed mine trying to pull it. The ventus is over rated in my opinion, i am very weak however and even though I get good numbers w the ventus, it feels terrible
I would like to see a comparison of the Graphite Design line. Doing something along the lines of the OG Tour AD DI to the Tour AD XC to the Tour AD UB.
Let's have some faith. Of course the early TXG vlogs were dry. It takes time for people to gel and gain confidence in front of the camera. I also loved Matt but even he took some time to relax in front of the camera. Check out some of the original content. All the best to TXG and to Matt in his new ventures.
Missing have The consistence of knowing Matts swing and being able to make a judgment off it. Also the distance 😞. Should the new guy be using Ventus Red given the swing speed.
Totally agree with Ian on not using loft as a crutch. My swing speed is only 95-98, but I hit the ball high, so I end up using 9º and even turning down to 8º sometimes. But when I hit 10.5º or 11º I have to make the proper setup and body movements to keep the flight down and I end up making a better move through the ball. Then when I do that with the 9º the flight is where it "should" be for my speed, that is to say, too low. So I'm getting away with some inefficient movements with the lower loft, and the 10.5º shows what needs to be worked on!
I need HELP! I am currently playing Mizuno Stz 220 Driver 9.5 of loft. I have 2 ventus shafts. One is the blue TR 6x and the other is the Ventus Blue 7x. The difference I see, is that I hit the 6x Tr higher and shorter. The Ventus blue 7x I hit lower and longer. WHY? Is it spin the problem? I prefer the 7x but is hard for me to hit my window. I like hitting fade and if I go higher in loft, closes the head and I like to hit fade and prefer an open face. What can I do? Please help me! Thanks 🙏🏽
The Ventus Blue in stock TM drivers is not a Velocore model, how much would this effect performance _ is it softer, any thoughts guys? Any further ideas on Hzrdus Smoke Blue v Ventus Blue - much difference, anybody got a quick answer on that? :)
Never played ventus before a few months ago, got the red TR. I thought the hype was just that. But as a relatively poor golfer, especially of the tee, Ive got to say that driver is now one of my most reliable clubs. The distance and left right dispersion is a bit mad.
Why is the Ventus Blue Velocore not included in this comparison? I feel like this video missed the real purpose by not including all 3 Ventus Blue models.
I play a black 6tx. Dislike the feel. Love the stability. I ordered a 6X tr. tipped 1/2”. What’s your thoughts? (I do like blue feel for the load helping me feel timing)
I know you guys stay busy but any chance you could do a review or help with this question on which is better, a 13.5/15 degree three wood. I play a 9 degree driver. Thank you guys for the help and videos!
Stop comparing these guys to Matt. He’s gone get over it. Just enjoy the insight and knowledge they all have. I’ve followed Ryan for a while he knows his stuff. Great vid as always 👍🏼
I think kai li white 60tx vs Ventus TR in the 60x would be a great comparison. Both shafts trying to accomplish the same thing. Kai li taper butt to achieve blue profile feel while keeping the tip ultra stiff for white profile numbers.
When I first got truly fitted, I loved the Aldila NV, but then the UST pro force stiff had the same CPM numbers, but felt smoother to me at a D4 SW. Used that for a long time until my fitting to a G30 head with a Tour Stiff. A bit high launching, so turned down the loft on a 10.5 head.
To add to my earlier post, I play Wilsom Staff tour model (aka Gary Woodland). 34° 7 iron 135 carry. I consider myself myself a competent single figure handicapper. I can't launch strong lofted clubs. I use 3 hybrids. 5, 4, and 3. My handicap has been a solid single figure for 50 years. Can we have testers who have a 70 to 75 mph swingspeed in a 7 iron. I'm sure I'm not an exception. I'm better then average. And as a man of leisure has money to spend. Who are these forums aimed at?
The low loft as a crutch deserves a video of its own. I'm considering buying a new driver with lower loft to bring launch and spin down, but I would like to learn about other options and why low loft might not be the way to go.
Very informative...TY. Indeed, at $350 (US) the Ventus shaft do have a tendency to push many golfers toward a different type of Fujikura shafts or its competitors. In addition, at times, shafts of this caliber are hard to come by for "testing."
Thanks for the video! Would love to hear more about tipping on this and the black/blue shafts as well as to see this shaft compared on a swing that has more neutral swing dynamics + high speed (we miss Matt!).
This guy is obviously a great player. He did say with the black he had to work harder, my thinking is with the golf swing, harder can introduce tension and tension is not good. Please let me know your view on this. Love your vlogs. Regards Ray.
You mentioned that you would always tip a x flex shaft. Why would you tip this? I have a Blue 6x and a black 6s and I am exact position the person hitting. I am wondering if tipping the x would help optimize just a little more.
I need a new shaft for my PING G425, currently have Alta CB 55 Stiff. Swing speed 108-110. Getting too much trajectory, and balls goes left to right at times. I’m a left hander. Not sure what I should be trying??
Great to see clubs compared with/against its competitors. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. The new Callaway Rogue and PXG got my interest.
Enjoyed the video. As always a few new nuggets of information which leaves me wanting more! Question...watched the video again from a year ago comparing stock Ventus in TM versus after market Ventus, which came to the conclusion that you were comparing apples to oranges. I have the Ventus Blue 5-S stock shaft in my Sim2 Max but would like to step it up with an aftermarket shaft. Is the new Ventus TR still a completely different beast from the stock Ventus in TM? If so, is there a shaft you've found that compares to the stock Ventus Plus 5-S, or is it time to see a fitter? LOL
Curious if you would typically fit a 108-110 SS into an X flex? I would have thought this was still solidly in the S flex range. Especially tipped it seems like in might be too stiff for the speed?
Very good review! But what kind of shaft is for me as a golfer with around 140 mph ballspeed with the driver? Seeking a high launch low spin ball trajectory.
Another great vid!! I can agree as I'm using black ventus on my driver but for wood/hybrid I was fitted with blue. I too feel i need to swing harder with driver so i can related here.
What delivery conditions would cause high launch with very low driver spin. Like my Maverik Sub Zero with the weight back set at 8* launches about 16-17* with sub 2000 spin. I’ve always been a high ball hitter but high hitter with low spin is really confusing me because even with 113-114 club speed miss hits can sometimes just fall out of the air.
Can you do a comparison video between the Ventus Blue/Black and Kai'li? Two sure fire top-selling shafts that seem to be rivaling themselves this year. Thanks!
What driver head would you recommend for someone who liked the face of the original Sim? That shallow face really suited me and I can't find a new 8° Sim. I like hitting a 3 wood so maybe that's why I like the shallow faced driver head.
My son, a college golfer, is playing the Ventus blue. He got fitted by a top fitter and ended up in a S flex tipped 3/4 inch even though his swing speed is close to 120. He loves this shaft too. He likes the smooth feel and control he gets from it.
What with Ian & Mikey being videoed in the dark - did Club Champion forget to pay the electricity bill?
Yes I miss the chemistry of Matt & Ian, but TXG is still the best, most independent source of properly tested information on golf clubs & shafts
I think you guys are the only ones doing shaft reviews. Certainly the only ones of any quality. Love it.
Ventus Blue has been automatic for me across the whole top part of my bag. I’ve always had different shafts in my long clubs but now Hybrid/Fw/Driver all Ventus Blue.
Same. First ever premium shaft and felt crazy for spending that much blind off of TXG reviews. Now it’s in every long club.
Same here
Regarding testing, i’m interested in knowing the differences across the HZRDUS line. There are many different products there, so seeing something on that would be valuable. Thanks.
Shafts are often overlooked when people go shopping for golf equipment, so I’m glad we (hopefully) will get more comparisons for more shaft product lines down the road. That said, I love that Ventus Blue and Ventus TR is more on “feel”. It just means more options for the average golfer. You said it best, Ian: Ventus Black is a very niche market, and so is the Ventus Blue. I feel like this is for those who are stuck in-between.
Thanks!
From a pure entertainment perspective. I enjoyed this video the most since Matt left. I’d love to see more RB on the channel. The videos do seem really dry to me, very quiet and not as much fun any more.
Wait Matt left why
When
Yeah I liked Matt’s presence a lot. Him an Ian had good chemistry, and Ian knew Matt’s golf game, so the technical talk flowed well. Gonna be hard to replace him IMO.
Also. The guy next to Ian doesn’t look comfortable , and needs to speak more, and openly
@@Chyeahokay... Mike has no charisma. It's just the ugly truth. People have different social styles and strengths. The camera is not one of his. He's too monotonous, and boring. Not a knock on his knowledge, or being a good fitter... He might get better, but he will never get like Matty boy, or someone who has a dynamic personality. It's not in his dna, and the flow and dialog suffers in contrast to Matt
Would love to learn more about "loft as a crutch" as someone who's constantly fitted into the lowest loft heads. Great review and really liked the addition of Ryan and what he brings to the process. I'm currently playing the Ventus Black 6S in my driver and Blue 80S in my hybrid. The idea of some black stability with more feel sounds really interesting.
I totally agree. I wonder if I’m in that category of player playing my current head at 7 degrees. I guess there’s no way of knowing without checking with a pro.
It hurt my feelings when Ian said that lol. You're not alone.
Haha same…I felt attacked! Oh well, if a 14 hcp can’t get a little crutch now and then on the course what can he do? I’ll take it.
I have both a black and blue in 70s I have always played the lowest lofted head. But a fitter outside of my stander fitter (actually a TM fitter on a tour truck) pointed out to me that I’m losing to much ball speed trying to hit up. He actually pointed out DJs swing and how his Attack Angle with the driver is steep, which is why he plays a higher lofted driver over the typical bombers 4-8° heads. I swung a few shots with an 10.5° at 11° and my entire world was rocked. Because of my speed, nobody has ever put a higher lofted driver in my hands. It’s worth exploring, my smash went up, my spin went down. I don’t have to try and force my swing up on contact. I just deliver the head. I don’t know if that’s what he’s trying to get at, but I can say as a guy who swings 123 on average a higher lofted driver has actually improved a lot of my game.
@@phynamite9 do you use the black or blue?
Of course we miss Matty but I appreciate RB because his swing profile and numbers are almost identical to mine. I also appreciate what Ian said about adding loft instead of using a low-lofted head as a crutch. I'll try that.
Miss Matty but this is nice and refreshing also. Very close to my speed also which really helps. 👍
Great video. Very informative. In my opinion, this particular video had a great deal of 'relatable' content for me personally. In addition to your unpacking of the three different Ventus shaft models, the side-topic of using low launch 'as a crutch' was something that was valuable to hear.
Ryan, well done. Steeping into the spotlight in the 'here and now' takes some courage. Ian and Mikey, well done. I for one, continue to appreciate the information that TXG is sharing. Looking forward to more quality content as we go forward in 2022.
Look at RB as a tester, LOVE THIS. RB is the man.
Does anyone else miss the old intro music?
Excellent video. Always welcome listening Ian work through the various variables that impact golf shots - especially when it is the same theories but with different golfers (e.g. with Ryan this time). Feel like we are getting a PhD in golf club fitting concepts. Keep up the great work and look forward to more.
Well done RB, as a normal/good/improving golfer this can't of been easy. I liked that it was mortal representative.
Just got fitted for new driver & shaft @ the weekend. I was hitting taylormade m3. Stiff shaft standard. Ended up walking away with cobra LTDx LS shaft black ventus fujikura 6x. The difference in a proper fitting is unreal. Expensive, but I'm looking forward to get it on the course once it's made
I’ve preordered this. I’m so excited that you uploaded this. About to watch
We need to see a Ventus Red tipped “purple” vs the Ventus TR next.
Just got fitted yesterday.. hit the ventus tr blue.. added 40 yards to my drive and cut my spin rate in half. Expensive.. but one of the best shafts on the market
Enjoyable video, very interesting. Also great to watch RB smacking drivers, keen to see some new driver tests for him this next season
Love Ian's analysis of the swing.
I have Ventus Blue on all of my woods thanks to TXG. They make my SIM(1) great.
PADERSON VELOCITY!!! Please test this shaft. You teased it late in December but never did a video on it! Anyways, you all can do no wrong in my eyes. Thanks for all the quality reviews. I’m your biggest fan.
😂, we love you right back Jacob and for you I’ll make sure that video happens within the next couple of weeks!!! Ian
Is that you Stan.....
its like watching my own swing. numbers are almost identical and i could never understand why i hit my irons quite far yet cant fly my driver past 270. now im seeing its my launch
Have been looking forward to this one, also so glad you started doing 4k nice bump to the quality of the content!!!
Its so so so hard to find a GOOD review of the STEELFIBER iron shafts on CZcams!!! That would be a great content Ian!
Yes! Let’s get more from Ryan - i think his swing is very representative of many average golfers pushing for more speed. Would be great to see him hitting the new lineup of driver heads in a head2head scenario.
Also would love to see shaft vs shaft comparisons of a couple of companies (e.g. graphite design vs Ventus vs Mitsubishi - all the versions that would suit his swing, to see what seems best).
Love the content as always!!
I’d like to hear Ian’s comments on the value of fitting these premium shafts to the average golfer versus the stick shafts supplied by vendors. Is there value in dollars spent and or performance between the two?
They did a stock Ventus vs Velocore video ages ago and touched on something like this question I recall. As an 80-90 golfer that’s gone from stock shaft to premium ventus it’s 100% been worth it for me and changed my long game completely
There is many videos in CZcams about that, the difference is very minimal in most cases since many club manufacturer already offer a shaft setup that's pretty good fit with the head. For example with Ping and Taylormade, you can get get fit so well you don't really need a $400 shaft on top. But many buy these shafts because they want to, they look and feel cool.
@@NovaScene in my experience, none of the taylormade stock offerings worked for me but im more of a hitter with a very aggressive transition. . Ventus black brought my spin into a better window and helped out my super high launch. I did not purchase yet because I am going to look around and see what I can do about the insane cost of the stealth...might go to a PXG fitting as I can get their nicest driver with a $300 shaft for a stock Stealth price.
The RDX red I really did like though and would certainly look to use that as a fairway wood shaft. It just launched higher and a bit more spinny.
While it’s lovely to see Matty’s crushing drives on the regular, it’s also nice to see someone with a more mere-mortal swing speed demoing the new technology!
You guys are too harsh, this is a good channel. Relax and enjoy the info.
Being super selfish here but would like to see a lot more RB on the channel. Our swings are fairly similar, so I’m pretty keen to see how he responds to different equipment.
a comparison of Tensei 1k White, Accra TZ5 and Ventus TR would be great!
Good to see RB on
Hey Ian last year you talked about testing Patterson’s budget Accuflex type shaft. Any progress on securing one for a test?
Talking costs of the Ventus line, I've heard the UST Proforce V2 can work as a poor man's Ventus. I had a 60X in a Srixon 565 and I wasn't much for the feel but it was an accurate rocket launcher for sure. Had it playing at 44". May try a tipped one at 45" for fun. Also, good work by Barath. Enjoyed his MyGolfSpy articles and CZcams channel (when it was a thing).
Yes my nigga proforce v2 is best shaft for the money, try the white tspx v2 it’s their tour model, also recommend the gen 4 hzrds black, On a different note, Autoflex is also a great shaft only I destroyed mine trying to pull it. The ventus is over rated in my opinion, i am very weak however and even though I get good numbers w the ventus, it feels terrible
I've been waiting for this....Let's Go
I would like to see a comparison of the Graphite Design line. Doing something along the lines of the OG Tour AD DI to the Tour AD XC to the Tour AD UB.
Nice seeing RB in there. More of him!!
I like to see the Ventus vs the Tensi
What love yo see comparisons between. The Ventus shafts and comparable graphite design shafts
Let's have some faith. Of course the early TXG vlogs were dry. It takes time for people to gel and gain confidence in front of the camera. I also loved Matt but even he took some time to relax in front of the camera. Check out some of the original content. All the best to TXG and to Matt in his new ventures.
Love this gents! Keep up the great work. How about a tipped Red “purple” vs the Blue TR?
Highlight that please^^^
There is a Matt imposter on here hitting golf balls!! 😮
I'm seeing some crazy good smash numbers with the new TR.
Can you do a video comparing the true temper x100 tour issue, X7, project x 7.0, project x 7.0 LS, and project x rifle 7.0 shaft?
Missing have The consistence of knowing Matts swing and being able to make a judgment off it. Also the distance 😞. Should the new guy be using Ventus Red given the swing speed.
Totally agree with Ian on not using loft as a crutch. My swing speed is only 95-98, but I hit the ball high, so I end up using 9º and even turning down to 8º sometimes. But when I hit 10.5º or 11º I have to make the proper setup and body movements to keep the flight down and I end up making a better move through the ball. Then when I do that with the 9º the flight is where it "should" be for my speed, that is to say, too low. So I'm getting away with some inefficient movements with the lower loft, and the 10.5º shows what needs to be worked on!
Used to love this channel. Just not the same without Matty. Hope the videos start to liven up soon
The old purple/ yellow and black/ yellow UST had the hype too back in the day.
I need HELP! I am currently playing Mizuno Stz 220 Driver 9.5 of loft. I have 2 ventus shafts. One is the blue TR 6x and the other is the Ventus Blue 7x. The difference I see, is that I hit the 6x Tr higher and shorter. The Ventus blue 7x I hit lower and longer. WHY? Is it spin the problem? I prefer the 7x but is hard for me to hit my window. I like hitting fade and if I go higher in loft, closes the head and I like to hit fade and prefer an open face. What can I do? Please help me! Thanks 🙏🏽
Great review guys, 👍👍 to RB!!
Super excited to get fitted at TXG at the end of February. Keep up the great content!
Love the candle lit vibe from the boys
I just purchased the Ventus Blue TR in a 5 R. Should get it for next weekend. I liked how you fitted to it. Can't wait to see you use it outside.
The Ventus Blue in stock TM drivers is not a Velocore model, how much would this effect performance _ is it softer, any thoughts guys? Any further ideas on Hzrdus Smoke Blue v Ventus Blue - much difference, anybody got a quick answer on that? :)
Never played ventus before a few months ago, got the red TR. I thought the hype was just that. But as a relatively poor golfer, especially of the tee, Ive got to say that driver is now one of my most reliable clubs. The distance and left right dispersion is a bit mad.
Why is the Ventus Blue Velocore not included in this comparison? I feel like this video missed the real purpose by not including all 3 Ventus Blue models.
Also, would love to see the Fuji MC pro iron shafts reviewed
He hit the black the best by far.
I play a black 6tx. Dislike the feel. Love the stability. I ordered a 6X tr. tipped 1/2”. What’s your thoughts? (I do like blue feel for the load helping me feel timing)
I know you guys stay busy but any chance you could do a review or help with this question on which is better, a 13.5/15 degree three wood. I play a 9 degree driver. Thank you guys for the help and videos!
Stop comparing these guys to Matt. He’s gone get over it. Just enjoy the insight and knowledge they all have. I’ve followed Ryan for a while he knows his stuff. Great vid as always 👍🏼
I think kai li white 60tx vs Ventus TR in the 60x would be a great comparison. Both shafts trying to accomplish the same thing. Kai li taper butt to achieve blue profile feel while keeping the tip ultra stiff for white profile numbers.
This was great. I love weight of really stiff shafts, but like the more smooth feel.
When I first got truly fitted, I loved the Aldila NV, but then the UST pro force stiff had the same CPM numbers, but felt smoother to me at a D4 SW. Used that for a long time until my fitting to a G30 head with a Tour Stiff. A bit high launching, so turned down the loft on a 10.5 head.
To add to my earlier post, I play Wilsom Staff tour model (aka Gary Woodland). 34° 7 iron 135 carry. I consider myself myself a competent single figure handicapper. I can't launch strong lofted clubs. I use 3 hybrids. 5, 4, and 3. My handicap has been a solid single figure for 50 years. Can we have testers who have a 70 to 75 mph swingspeed in a 7 iron. I'm sure I'm not an exception. I'm better then average. And as a man of leisure has money to spend. Who are these forums aimed at?
The low loft as a crutch deserves a video of its own. I'm considering buying a new driver with lower loft to bring launch and spin down, but I would like to learn about other options and why low loft might not be the way to go.
Love to see Diamana PD testing.
Going from air speeder 45 or ventus blue 5 r . Sim2 max d driver , 95 mph swing speed . What is differences in shafts ?
Very informative...TY. Indeed, at $350 (US) the Ventus shaft do have a tendency to push many golfers toward a different type of Fujikura shafts or its competitors. In addition, at times, shafts of this caliber are hard to come by for "testing."
Love it boys! Class as always!
How do you think the tensi 1K compares to the Ventus blue ?
I second this. Love to see a 1k vs TR Blue vs maybe a stock offering of some sort
Just got my TR and I don’t like it one bit. Thuddy. Transition sucks. Everything about this shaft so far is a no go.
Thanks for the video! Would love to hear more about tipping on this and the black/blue shafts as well as to see this shaft compared on a swing that has more neutral swing dynamics + high speed (we miss Matt!).
Do you guys know why the 50 gram series TR weighs less than original Ventus blue while the rest of the line is heavier?
This guy is obviously a great player. He did say with the black he had to work harder, my thinking is with the golf swing, harder can introduce tension and tension is not good. Please let me know your view on this. Love your vlogs. Regards Ray.
Smooth and stable... Sign me up!
You mentioned that you would always tip a x flex shaft. Why would you tip this? I have a Blue 6x and a black 6s and I am exact position the person hitting. I am wondering if tipping the x would help optimize just a little more.
I need a new shaft for my PING G425, currently have Alta CB 55 Stiff. Swing speed 108-110. Getting too much trajectory, and balls goes left to right at times. I’m a left hander. Not sure what I should be trying??
Great to see clubs compared with/against its competitors. It will be interesting to see how that plays out. The new Callaway Rogue and PXG got my interest.
Enjoyed the video. As always a few new nuggets of information which leaves me wanting more! Question...watched the video again from a year ago comparing stock Ventus in TM versus after market Ventus, which came to the conclusion that you were comparing apples to oranges. I have the Ventus Blue 5-S stock shaft in my Sim2 Max but would like to step it up with an aftermarket shaft. Is the new Ventus TR still a completely different beast from the stock Ventus in TM? If so, is there a shaft you've found that compares to the stock Ventus Plus 5-S, or is it time to see a fitter? LOL
Curious if you would typically fit a 108-110 SS into an X flex? I would have thought this was still solidly in the S flex range. Especially tipped it seems like in might be too stiff for the speed?
Video quality looks great!
Very good review! But what kind of shaft is for me as a golfer with around 140 mph ballspeed with the driver? Seeking a high launch low spin ball trajectory.
Man that TR is very intriguing!
He needs to wear an Arby's hat when reviewing a club. Good swing, good addition to the channel.
Another great vid!! I can agree as I'm using black ventus on my driver but for wood/hybrid I was fitted with blue. I too feel i need to swing harder with driver so i can related here.
I was looking at shafts and threw in a d+ white 70x and my trajectory went up from my 60x that doesn’t seem to make sense to me
Whats a more affordable option for the Ventus TR with similar characteristics Thanks Good stuff
“The black and the blue had a baby, in the butt section”, this is the content we need 😂 RB HAHAH
6.5 HZRDUS RDX black with the new hexcel in the stealth!!
What delivery conditions would cause high launch with very low driver spin. Like my Maverik Sub Zero with the weight back set at 8* launches about 16-17* with sub 2000 spin. I’ve always been a high ball hitter but high hitter with low spin is really confusing me because even with 113-114 club speed miss hits can sometimes just fall out of the air.
Can you do a comparison video between the Ventus Blue/Black and Kai'li? Two sure fire top-selling shafts that seem to be rivaling themselves this year. Thanks!
What driver head would you recommend for someone who liked the face of the original Sim? That shallow face really suited me and I can't find a new 8° Sim. I like hitting a 3 wood so maybe that's why I like the shallow faced driver head.
With RB on, hoping we get to see a bit more old/classic vs new gear comparisons!
Please test the LA golf (Blue,White,Red) Driver/Fairways shafts in new Stealth
How does it compare with the Fujikura Motor X F1?
Please test Tour AD XC. Would love to see that shaft head to head with Ventus!
Can 105-113 club head speed play 6xblue or black?
Anyone know if Cobra has an update for the King Forged Tec irons dropping this year ?
Ian are there any shafts similar to the hzrdus smoke green 6.0 70g shafts?