Encroachment
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- The plaintiff alleges his neighbors, the defendants, ripped out his fence, so he's suing. The defendants insist the fence was on their property, so they had every right to take it out.
Case # 27314
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If you are going to make changes--construction/destruction to anything on a property line then it is YOU you gets the survey BEFORE work starts.
Exactly…. It should have been the Plaintiffs responsibility!
@@elainevankat5353 i thought anaconda was saying it was the defendant's responsibility. The plaintiff didn't rip down/ want to change anything....it was the defendant's contractor who did all the damage. Cheers anyways!
someone Cleary didn't watch the video@@elainevankat5353
3:03 First of all, if it's separating the properties, it doesn't make it your offense either. And why should he have to pay for a surveyor when you're the one that wants to change things ?! And just cause you think you're pretty doesn't mean the neighbor Do !! I already can't stand her personality from the moment she opened her mouth.
@perfectlyimperfect9129 ummm that's a bit harsh. You seen the woman talk for a few minutes about a fence and based on that you don't like her personality? Jeez. That's a bit presumptuous. Also how do you get upset with her because he made her feel uncomfortable? Just from your comment, you seem envious of the woman. (How do you like it?)
The right thing to do is to get a survey done BEFORE you start ripping apart fences on property lines. Not tear it down first, then tell the neighbor to pay for a surveyor.
She knew that was his fence. She's too smart not to know. No one in their right mind is going to spend $10k on a fence without knowing where they can build it. She was hoping to just put up a nicer looking fence and he wouldn't say anything.
I would be happy if my neighbors would care about their home the way the plaintiffs do
I did it and my neighbors thanked me.
"This is the most common form of neighborhood wars." No kidding. There's a true-crime show called Fear Thy Neighbor for a reason.
That show has lowkey made me super paranoid of neighbors. It's insane how far people will go over something so small.
but according to me only or mostly in US, I lived for 60 years in South Africa and never had that problem or friends or family with boundary fences, I had 2 houses in South Africa and never ever had any fence issues,
That show is mind blowing!
lol I don’t think this rises to that level
One of my favorite shows .I'm thankful the house next door to me is abandoned and boarded up 😅
"Great Fences make Great Neighbors"
I love how the plaintiff is open to learning and the judge is open to teaching😊
That "love letter" didn't go over like she hoped
Exposed the old man as a creep.
JM asked the defendant to provide examples of the plaintiff's previous actions that made her felt that he was creepy. She didn't volunteer the information about the "love letter" out of thin air. And yes, a neighbor keeping track of when you leave your home and coming home IS creepy.
@@3l3llala13 but when she said she misplaced the check then i had doubts about her honesty . how u gonna lose a check in your own home . i think either she is lying about the whole story or she cashed that check and took advantage of the old guy .
@@marleonetti7Seriously? It happened 4 years ago! I misplace things from last month in my own home!🥴
She cashed it!@@marleonetti7
Great judgement! JM wanted to make sure the plaintiff will in fact get the fence reinstalled, not just order the defendants to pay and it doesn’t get done
Robert Frost was right: Good fences makes good neighbors.
Nothing gold can stay
@@ConfusedinJuly Thank you for that. I never read that poem before, but I looked it up after reading your post. Absolutely beautiful.
why does the old man have to pay for the survey there the ones who want to rip it down they should pay
Because he agreed to
@@Derriayers Because he's a nice old man while the defendant is entitled and a liar
Because he is the one challenging the property line.
@@tmilesffl No He's not he's relaxing watching TV and the neighbors tore his fence down which by the way Milian said is clearly on his property
@@DerriayersHe agreed out of ….ignorance and kindness!
Man please she cashed the hell out that check, tossed the letter and took a picture of the envelope and thought it was gonna hold up in court 😅
Glad I don't have any problems with my neighbors heck ! I don't even know my neighbors.😂
I know all mine. My direct next door guy is weird, but helpful, but sometimes a bit intrusive.
As a surveyor….for the love of god get a survey. New home? Survey. New neighbor moving in? Present them a copy of the survey. Any hint whatsoever of a neighbor getting antsy about a property line….get a survey.
And I’m not saying this to drum up business for the profession. I can write a book of all the crazy shit ppl do and how absolutely positively INSANE ppl get over a boundary line. I’m a 5’4, 120lb Native American woman and I’ve been shot TWICE with rock salt from a shotgun because some crazy ass farmer erroneously thought he owned the entire countryside 🙄🙄🙄
Sorry to hear that
Lots of angry dumb hillbillies by me too right now.
You don't build a fence until you get a survey done to make sure it's on your property.
Many times the value of a property is by square feet. So even the slightest amount of encroachment can ruin someone's property value....which affects taxes, mortgage rates and everything else.
Not only that but in many jurisdictions a fence or even a widened paved driveway placement that is past the original property boundary and left in place for several years without any complaints / objections it can become the new legal property line regardless of the what the original survey shows. In my county the time period is 12 years.
The defendants wanted that elephant plant. 🐘
lol ... The gorgeous defendant said the elephant plant represents "Lord Ganesh". I clicked on it for photos. That's one fancy elephant.
I'm not even Muslim and I want that plant!
@@swallowedinthesea11 They are Hindus not Muslims.
@@swallowedinthesea11it’s Hinduism that believes in an elephant deity. Islam is monotheistic and believe in the same God of Abraham as Christians and Jews :)
I was waiting to here what the issue was with the Ganesh plant... Were they just annoyed by it?
This is about a fence, the other thing is a different issue and the judge should have stopped it.
Since the plaintiff claimed it was the reason for the dispute, the judge had an obligation to listen to what she had to say.
@@scribe712 Maybe if it was recent. But it was from 5 years ago. The only reason Defendant brought it up is because she wanted to embarrass the Plaintiff.
agreed! the defendant was disgusting in trying to besmirch her neighbor’s name and reputation.
@@pmabroukshe wasn’t, idk if we watched the same case but it seems like the defendant has a past incident with the plaintiff to which she involved the cops because he made her uncomfortable. They stop speaking for 4-5 years and you know the rest, she wasn’t butchering his name for feeling like this case was deeply rooted.
Yeah she is horrible
This is why I live on a farm in the country...but close enough to my neighbors and shopping 😊
Boundaries, always problems people just want to take what isn’t theirs, keep on your property.
Poor old guy can't button his shirt 😮
Could be a way to look pathetic on purpose.
😂😂
Like Brandon
😳🫣🫠😂
It work tho got your attention 🧵🪡🧷😮
she should go to law school. even though they didn’t win she represented herself really well
No she didn't. The idiots removed a fence where she was unsure who it belonged to. She was cheap. Unless you're 100% sure who it belongs to you talk to your neighbor, if there's a dispute you get a survey done. They didn't feel like paying for a survey and now they have to pay him two grand.
@@superduperkid3143you are right! Defendants have a zero lot line and want to use his sidewalk to get to their backyard so they tore out the fence.
@@superduperkid3143 those people are really cheap…
What are you talking about
please stop believing the tv shows, she conducted herslef as an entitled moron. She is so smart she didn't get a survey done before even planning out work.
Defendant? Is that you? The only thing she did was confirm that she's a thoughtless, inconsiderate neighbor wo is too cheap to get a Survey done BEFORE ripping apart the neighbor's fence.
The defendant is well spoken and is clearly well educated
Why wouldn’t she be?
@@TheMamilinda89 have you watched this show before? That shits rare here 😂
@@kiraaudrey499 that's so untrue..
@@TheMamilinda89 Exactly...the litigants on this show are from all walks of life. From medical professionals, engineers, lawyers, business owners and college kids. Why wouldn't she or anyone be educated. The plaintiff may have 2-3 degrees for all we know and it wouldn't be shocking..
Aka Woke.
This doesn’t need to go any further. I admit, I was the one who sent her the love letters.
well i dont blame you, i would too, lol,
Good luck to you, Sam Kenison made a career screaming into a microphone with a anguished face because guys with blind hearts getting shredded on the daily because she was cute.
Hahaaaaaa😂
I had a neighbor try to bully me over a fence, I had the original survey of the property which she said was too old and therefore invalid - hello, land does not change over years so the boundries will forever be the same. Why should the plaintiff have to pay for the survey. When you build a fence, you place it in your side of the property line and it is part of your property
False. In CA the ground shifts and property line can change over time. I had a nasty neighbor demand we get a survey because she wanted to expand her driveway because she needed extra parking.
I refused because I aint paying for shit. Will, they decided to pay for it hoping to get more land, but it turns out, the fence was encroaching 2 ft into my land. Lmfao.
I told them we can leave it the way it, or they must be to have a new fence put up. I have a copy of the survey and framed it on my side of the wall. Yes I am that petty. They see it everytime the pull up to park on the curb.
@@HiddenAgendas the ground shifting from one side or the other of a line, does not move the line, it only means the distribution of the dirt has changed - the line still remains
She tried to pull a victim card. Glad she has to pay up.
The daughter is definitely giving me attorney or law student vibes.
Yeah, arrogant, self-righteous and dismissive.
@@mikeyh0Ha Ha
She looked upset when she left the court😂
Lawyers or law students seldom use the phrase “I assumed…”
she is giving me victim vibes and self righteous, arrogant, and ignorant.
If you want to rip down fences and do construction, you need to get a recent survey.
I think it's funny that whenever a guy points out a woman's mistake, she thinks he's being vindictive because he's in LooOoVe with her and mad because she's not interested. What an ego.
BS. If she hadn't rejected him and called the police, the old creeper would not have given a damn about what they did to his fence. Sick and dillusional guy thought he had a chance with an attractive woman young enough to be his granddaughter.
@@randys6220Frrl u can tell what she said were facts
There wouldn't be wars if the town zoning Inspection dept actually participate and ensure that the homeowner that's encroaching is issued out a ticket.
It is NOT the town to determine property lines. This is a civil issue, not a government issue.
Looks like little buddy's shirt is buttoned up unbalanced, one collar is on his chest and the other one is almost behind his neck.
😂 cheap Trinidadians..
Like my 5 year old
I thought it was just me. Misaligned like that chain link fence.
Lmfaoooooooo I just saw that 😂 not little buddy ☠️
Damn,sharp eagle eye, l remember there was this uncle in one neighbourhood that has weird hobby whereby he monitored the time his next door neighbours daughter movement in and out of the house.. Hahaha joking
I love my neighbors, I told them I was updating my fence & both agreed without any issues…
Their fence is nice. Not sure wtf they were thinking wanting to do brick on such a small side of the house though.
I'm so sad they took away peoples court 🥺🥺
I’m late, I had no idea
She has a new show if it makes you feel better
They put in Another one for Judge Millian, but it is on early morning. Check your local schedule. Justice for the People.
@@trekgirl65 yes I know. That was I was going to say
@@LaineMann It is called Justice for the People. Look up when it on your television viewing area.
You couldn't put up a fence until you had a new survey done in my old town and the fence had to be so many feet from the property line. It may not seem like much of an issue to some but when you go to sell your home - the buyers may have an issue if the neighbor's fence is encroaching on their yard.
I believe the old guy wrote the creepy letter. She wouldn’t have it photographed and on her phone for over four years, unless there was a reason.
I don't know who I believe at this point but I'm kind of interested if the picture she took of the check has a time stamp because if it was taken recently then we know it's fake. But yeah I see what you're saying and I think it's definitely possible he wrote the letter.
Trying to character assassinate the plaintiff because of your wrong doing.
before moving anything it , why not get the survey done
These people are known to be cheapskates
NO, YOU GET THE SURVEY. YOU PAY.
This young girl needs to stop thinking she is special. Just because she doesn't like the look if her neighbors fence doesn't mean she can trespass onto his property and destroy it. Each of these people should have gotten a survey when they bought their homes. Apparently only the older man was smart enough to do that.
Not smart enough to not be creepy towards a woman young enough to be his granddaughter.
Seems to me he was going to have a much nicer fence if he would have said nothing!
Not really a brick wall down the dividing line like that as close to the house as it was would be hell to do.
She's very smart, but too cheap to get someone to review the survey. She could've gone to the city zoning department for free or paid an expert $50 and they would've told her that the thick black line with the letter F means the fence is on his property.
Not smart but manipulative
@@jaynehogue2459 She may also be manipulative, but to say she is not smart is just flat-out nonsense. She was sharp and articulate, which points to having a good education.
shes articulate and presents well. she clearly practiced. Smart? no. Between she and her family they couldn't figure out a survey needed to be done on a boundary. That defies logic. Especially in a world with an internet : just google fences and you can find lots about what you should take into account.
@@burton6849 You can practice speeches. You can't practice interacting with a smart judge.
There's only two inches between the houses who needs a fence
People with pets 🤷♂️
You cannot turn down other's fence by "assuming". Shame on you!
I know zoning laws can very from city to city. In my city, you can't put a fence on a property line. The post holes and the cement holding the posts in place must be on your property. That way, the fence itself is most likely three inches or so inside your property. When in doubt, get the property surveyed before you do anything.
In most areas of Australia the cost of a fence is shared equally, if you can't come to an agreement it is decided at a tribunal.
@@mickm6309 In the US, you're supposed to get a property survey before you put up a fence, building, shed or even landscaping. A lot of problems arise when one party assumes that their property lines are somewhere where they are not.
Though, we can still have crazy fencing wars in Aus. Many years ago, I bought an old house with existing fencing. On one side, there were THREE fences! On my side was a 6 ft wooden fence. Then, one inch away is a 4 ft rotten timber posts and torn rusty chain link fence. Next to that was a nice 6 ft metal panel fence. I was puzzled, but, oh well. My 6 ft timber fence was also rotten and falling down. We had young children, so the first thing we did was start to remove these hazards. I knew the 4 ft middle fence had to be the original boundary fence. I called the local council and received permission to remove the boundary fence as the posts were on my land, AND it was a legitimate hazard. We then put up a new 6 ft wooden fence on the unfenced part of our property. Our neighbours were furious. Now, I thought there would be a problem with them, which is why I contacted the local council. I introduced myself shortly after we moved in, and I was told the story of the fences. Well, 10 years previously, they wanted to replace the boundary fence with the metal fence. The previous owners of my house refused to go half. A big fight ensued, and the neighbours lost. They then built the new fence beside the property line and left the old fence in place. The previous owners of my place then built a 6 ft wooden ' Spite' fence on their side of the boundary fence! SMH. The neighbours then told me that as I now own the house.... I owe them for half the cost of their 10 year old fence. I said NO and left shortly after. About 2 weeks later, I received a letter from a solicitor demanding the money. I call, said NO, end of the matter. Nope. After removing the two rotten fences, we did not put up another fence along that side. I was not going to waste money and labour building another 'Spite' fence! The neighbours were furious because.... we were stealing and having the use of their land! They were referring to the 4 inch wide strip of land between the metal fence posts. WTF. Long story short, they went to court and got an injunction against me to prevent me from..."building any structures on their property." The 4 inches! I laughed when I received the letter. Not a problem. I planted a garden. 🌻 This happened a little over 39 years ago, and I still chuckle about it sometimes.
@@charmaintrout174 Some people are just diks, a fence benefits both houses, I can't see why people can't just agree to paying half each. I don't mean in your case.
why does Doug apologize to the losers so often?? They'' ve often just spent 10 mins plus trying to stiff their opponent.
Because he can’t think of anything interesting to say
@@PeopleRTheProblem very good point! He probably isn't allowed to say too much ''off''' plus he doesn't need to be punched out by someone who has just lost thousands. All the best to you!!
The fence looks better
Defendant did a great job! Plaintiff is a creepy ol' creep!
Thought he was looking at Pokémon cards in the beginning
People don't put fences on a property line, because the neighbor could come along and say they don't want it and rip it out. When you put in a fence you put it on your own property by just a little to avoid this
The defendant is rude and continually interrupted. And if they want renovations, SHE can pay for a survey! She also has a very high opinion of herself. As if she's some big beauty. If she really thought that man was after her she wouldn't have caused such trouble with the fence.
Encroachment? He hardley knew her!!
he's a creep
Looks like he had a good relationship with his neighbors for some time with them eating dinner at his home but had to ruin it by getting creepy over a woman way too young and attractive for him.
That man is being petty because that girl is no longer speaking to him and his heart is broken 😂 I can’t stand old creeps
My elderly neighbor who was Iranian would leave love notes on my door and it really freaked me out. He asked many women in my building to marry him. He was a strange man and I did my best to avoid him. Some old men are just downright unhinged.
Houses are built to close 😮, there needs to be a wide space between Houses, like fifty feet.😊
Looks like western Queens.
Sleazy way to get him to pay for the survey.
If my neighbor was going to tear out our shared fence and rebuild a better fence I would shake their hands and say thank you.
It isn’t a shared fence. They were encroaching on his property.
Um no
In the US you can call police and sue people very easily, in other countries police isn’t coming for a fence or loud music
There is a time frame of a fence being up..that if the fence is on neighbors peoperty .. it becomes his..
Yes, this also a common tactic to encroach(stealing) by having a fence installed within 3 ft on your property (oops 😉) & then selling your stolen property later on. Grrr 😖
She just now mentions this during the lawsuit I don’t agree she lying
If you watch a lot of cases on the ppls court, if it’s a man suing a woman, there have been quite a few times the woman’s defence is some sort of sexual assault
Doesn't matter whether you believe she's lying or not. It had no bearing on the facts of the case whether she was or wasn't.
Whatever side the vertical poles are on, that’s who owns the fence.
Lesson of the day never assume folks hire a professional, thats why surveyors exist...all of this could have been avoided if the first step of this fence project what hiring a surveyor...
I want that announcer’s job.
She's stunning!
Who????? Judge Milian? Yeah she is!!
@@christibarrick1768 NOT EITHER!!!
Please visit optometrist
So you were the one who sent her the love letter?? 😂
@natinati5800 . I sent Judge Milian a love letter and I have the restraining order to prove it.
I’m so glad about this decision. The defendant was being a pain on purpose
She’s so pretty 😍
Whether or not the letter/cheque incident was true, it was 4 years before the fence and has nothing to do with the current legal issue.
And it was interesting to see how she kept interrupting her father when he tried to speak. I think she's used to getting her own way most of the time (only child?), and thought that would be the case this time also.
Am I glad I live in the countryside where I don’t see my neighbours for miles. I have friends who live in the city and there’s always problems with their neighbors. They’re moving up to the countryside where I live next year. Les neighbors, less problems.
Doug didn't ask about the letter, that was a surprise
Doug was being nice this time, lol.
Mechanic, Home Inspection, Survey...all things that represent necessary costs if you plan to make any type of capital investment in a corresponding object/item/property.
She ain't all that.
But I don't understand is they were going to put a better fence, but he doesn't want it
These idiots could’ve simply built their damn fence on their own property on the inside of their property, and never once touch that guy’s fence at all and none of this would’ve happened
With my background in construction, we often just put the polls up and run a string and that’s what we think is the boundary line the best we can figure
More than once in a while, somebody who’s buying a lot comes over and moves our stuff around 6 inches or a foot either way, trying to give them selves more property so when we put the fencing, we think we’re right down the boundary line but we’re literally stealing a foot and a half from somebody else because someone messed around with our stuff
So yeah, sometimes you find out these lines rough but not generally very much one way or the other
Plus after so much time there’s a concept of abandonment
This would be a cottage industry they were going around, rebuilding all these fences in order to get your 6 inches
But if they would’ve just built a brick, whatever they wanted to order a new fence or whatever they wanted to on the inside of their property and put four or 6 inches between that and his fence, there’d be no problem and no reason to ever have a problem because he didn’t give a shit what you did on your property he just didn’t want you touching the fucking fence
Winging it where you "think" the boundary line is not the way to go and can cause a neighbor to get upset rightfully so in some jurisdictions. In the county where I live after a fence or paved driveway has been in place for 12 years or longer with no complaints that becomes the new legal boundary line regardless of what the original survey shows. For homes on a very small lot in a subdivision a foot and half boundary movement is a lot to lose (or gain).
If they had just laid the pavers and put their fence on the pavers, then left his fence alone, they would have been golden.
Love how the plaintiff buttons his shirt.
If the post is on your side it’s your fence..
She is lying she cashed the check , why not return immediately tell your man / police.. she probably lead him on … unbelievable
plantiff sounds like he's from the caribbean, maybe trinidad
Yes, they should have done the survey first and talked things out better, but dude....it their mistakes ends up meaning you get a new white fence over your old chainlink for FREE???...shut up and let them do it!!!
She’s defendently intelligent and knows how to speak.
Right, I was thinking the same thing.
I think you meant *definitely. Lol
She cashed that check… know she lying
Yes, the defendants were wrong to rip down the fence without doing a survey & as they are doing the construction, the onus is on them to do the survey & pay for it.
However. I do not see the point of the lawsuit at all, because the defendant was going to put back up a fence anyway. So what is the point of suing for a fence when the defendant was going to erect one?
And I am sure that the one they were going to erect was going to be better & more expensive than the $2000 one the plaintiff choose.
But...that is what happens when you live around miserable older people.
In some jurisdictions, if a fence has been standing unchallenged for 35 years that becomes the new property line.
My area is only 12 years. It also includes if someone paves their driveway too wide and enroaches onto the neighbor's property.
Defendant tried the "sexual stalker" defense. Notice he started acting when she started telling the story - her voice shaking. When Millian started asking questions, Defendant's shaky voice got very strong, no longer shaking in fear.
The plant sprung up from the ground and depicted a figure from his religion. What a shocker😂
he looks much too old for her
Way too old. Creep range.
Sounds like the judge didn't quite trust the plaintiff to actually put up a new fence with the judgement.
Awkward living next to a neighbor whom you used to be good friend with and now is not on any sort of speaking term. The two houses are almost touching each other.
Typically Guyanese … fighting for land
Ha Ha actually its majority
What de Mudda Skunt ya talkin bout 😂
I remember the plaintiff from SNL
THAT'S WHAT WE CALLED DIRTY OLD MAN.
I thought he was on 40 year old virgin
If someone constructs a fence or building, they are squatting. It can render loss of footage because of the setback of 15 feet from the property line.. I had this happen where a neighbor built a chimney on my side and they said I could knock it down.
Yeah u mis placed the check ha ha 😂
She threw that in there before Milan could ask if she cashed it or returned it.
Why didn't anyone tell the plaintiff that his shirt was buttoned incorrectly?
I will say is lack of communication
Not sure if their coolie or their coolie
😅😅😅😅
Treating the prevailing plaintiff like he's a criminal trying to scam on his own fence. Biased much, Queen Fingernail??
Beautiful, articulate, & stylish Defendant!
Didn't do her much good since she lost. A senseless lawsuit.
She's a rude, arrogant and childish girl.
The plaintiff is wearing bunny ears! 🐰 😄
It's amazing how denial wrks 15:37 for the one's that DO have the problem are the one's saying EVERYBODY ELSE has the problem & it's fascinating how the mind wrks, when they can't see the forest for the tree's