@@jtmedena1 2 Cor 6:1 "Working TOGETHER WITH HIM ( Συνεργοῦντες =synergountes=co-operate), then, we appeal to you not to receive the grace of God in vain"
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. Once we are in the Hand of God we can not be snatched away ,, by anyone including yourself
Sadly when the Israelites left Egypt there were in the Hand of God and yet only two of the adults who left Egypt entered the promised land. Many perished in the desert even though they were in God's Hand when they crossed the Red Sea on dry land. Narrow is the way and narrow is the gate few find it. Take this warning seriously or perish
@kediasjackson101 this was before the cross the final sacrifice .. so you are basically calling christ a liar saying you can lose what he has given you
@kediasjackson101 got alot more scriptures to back once saved always saved then not .. actually all objections are out of context.. and you make it a works based salvation which is no salvation at all so be warned before YOU perish
@@MoStBlEsSeD I humbly disagree.. The question is when are you saved? When you believe and accept Christ as Lord and Saviour or when you believe persevere and are resurrected to life while others are resurrected to eternal damnation? You will not lose your salvation if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain 1 Corinth 15:1-2. This Apostle Paul who also warns the believing Jews in Rome when writing to them in Hebrews 6:4-6 it would be impossible to renew again to repentance those who fall away since they crucify again for themselves the son of God and put Him to open shame. also why would the bible warn about the unpardonable sin if no one can lose their salvation.
People who are against once saved are really having a vantage point issue. God's vantage point is eternity. He already knows who is saved. Man's vantage point is lateral and largely based on outside appearances (fruit inspecting). This is how Jesus could say what He said in Matthew 21:30-32. An external religion, full of piety and good works is not wrong, but it is not the requirement for salvation. It is the result of salvation.
“For I am convinced [and continue to be convinced-beyond any doubt] that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present and threatening, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the [unlimited] love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39 You have been a great help this is the first time Ive posted here I think. The above verse has helped me in dark times. If you are truly saved this verse is for us who are sheep. We will struggle with sin, and we will know we are truly saved when the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin and not turn us over to it. God knows who really believes in Jesus. Thanks again
Paul is talking to Christians in Romans that will continue in their salvation , he says offer your body as a living sacrifice Romans 12:1-2 it’s only reasonable that you do this so if people don’t do that and they turn their back on God they’re not once saved always saved. It doesn’t exist. ! Titus is three chapters long it says to do good works 6 times, and in the middle of Titus, it says grace teaches us to say no to a godliness. So if we’re not saying no to godliness, we don’t have the true grace of God, according to Titus, 2:11-12 !Titus, along with the book of James that says we are justified by works and not by faith only Says James 2:24. ! Historically James, by most Scholastic accounts was the first New Testament book written that’s why it says to the 12 tribes before the Jerusalem church was scattered !
@@jjphankJames 2:24 is saying that we demonstrate that we have faith by doing good works. It is the same as bearing good fruit. Anyone who claims that they are in Christ but does not bear fruit is deceived.
@@tradinglikeamillionaire4312 no people talk to much hyper grace in their theology. That’s the problem read Revelation two and three. Also, once saved always saved is a lie
@@brianvincavage7626 Great question. I'll say this...At its core, repentance is and should be a routine act that includes not only an admission of wrongdoing, but also a pledge to do better. Everyday we should be getting better. If you're not growing as a Christian than there's something not right spiritually. I'm not saying you specifically...I'm speaking for myself and everyone who says they are saved. The Bible says that if we say we have no sin, we lie and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness ( 1 John 1:8-10)
This is how I look at it…Is it true or not that it was the work of Christ alone that saves us? What that documentary was teaching is a work based salvation! The verses that seem to say that a man can lose their salvation are there to show who a real, genuine, born again believer looks like! Christ saves us as His children and He will not lose any of His own! If a man loses their salvation then does that mean Jesus lost one of His own? Think about that for a moment. If a man loses their salvation then that means that that man was once a child of God, right? If that man was a child of God and then that man loses that right to be a child of God, which in turn means Jesus lost one of His own! Is Jesus a liar? No, Jesus is no liar and He Himself through the power of the Holy Spirit will present His own people faultless before His presence at the end! Salvation is not in our own hands to keep, salvation is in Gods power to keep His own!
Jesus "Justifies" you to be able to come to the father. "Santification" is your works of obedience to walking in the Spirit. In which you can lose your salvation by walking in your way of the flesh. "Glorification" is your rewards for walking the way of God.
@@ysteinbergsvik9853we must continue on in the faith to the end. That’s how we endure. God doesn’t do it for us. Yes, He empowers us and guides us through the Holy Spirit while He gives us free choice to follow Him or not. Why were there so many warnings of not falling away if it were not possible? We’re not like robots. God wants us to endure and continue on. Yet some do walk away from the faith. God says it would be better to have never known righteousness 2 Peter 2:1. Others call themselves Christian’s yet continue on in sin and will not inherit the kingdom of God. The Bible is filled with warnings. Even in the OT, the Holy Spirit left King Saul. We can grieve the spirit and eventually stop listening to Him and harden our hearts. Endure in the faith brothers and sisters to the end ✝️
@@NaileaGuerrero RIGHT,! God doesn't force us to be with him. We have a free choice. So it is easy to say, when a person doesn't continue, that he wasn't a christian.
Agreed Corey. The men in the opening clips do not seem to know what OSAS is. It is that confusion that blinds the eye to eternal security. OSAS doesn’t mean saved with an eternally inconsequential license to sin. To reject OSAS is to encourage a works based salvation.
@AJTramberg There are so many implications to thinking that way about eternal security, chief among them is whether its proponents are in the faith. Can you objectively state that believers who affirm eternal security live out their faith in sinful depravity without concern for how God feels about it? Eternal security is not divorced from Rom. 6:1. And since you believe that eternal security means permission to sin you clearly do not understand it either.
@@AJTramberg definitely not . I pray God opens your eyes to your foolish way of thinking , how arrogant do you have to be to think you can lose your salvation? If it were so guess what … you “ loss “ it a long time ago but it isn’t .
Being saved means one is destined for eternal life with God and Christ. It’s not a game of ‘seesaw’. When someone is ‘saved’ their spirit(the real you) is born again. But the flesh has to be ‘reconstituted’. Anything other has to be addressed on ‘judgment day’. Jesus died once for all, He’s not going to do it again. Once you’re saved that’s a done deal, final done deal. Now, whatever a person does after they’re is by their flesh, the ‘sinful nature’. Apostle Paul once said “the things I should do I don’t do, but things I don’t want to do I do. God’s mercies endure forever(Psalm 136). God’s mercies endure forever in the name of Jesus Christ. Don’t listen to anybody who says you can lose your salvation. That’s false doctrine. Moreover, God said nothing will separate His love from His children in Jesus.👍🙏🏼
@@Cornbread-gi6kt that's where u are wrong.. Psalms 19:13..Lord keep me from presumptuous sins(willful sinning) so I'm not guilty of the great transgression...I can't handle willfully sinning..my conscience can't handle it...that's being saved.. anything else, I would question
@@Cornbread-gi6kt just curious..what sin are u not willing to give up for ur king, that died the most horrible death to give u the ability to quit sinning?..porn? Masterbation? Drugs? Fornication?
None of these people who think you can lose your salvation can tell us where the tipping point is. Where is the point where someone loses their salvation? It's very vague and it errodes assurance.
@@AJTramberg no one will reach perfection in this life. So as we press toward the mark and fall short, when will someone allegedly lose their salvation? How will you have assurance that you are saved?
You know, there is real evil in our world to fight. The Christian bickering is unfortunate. Salvation is God's work, not ours. Everybody should be wise enough to know that we may not see this evidence because it is not really our place and because we are unqualified to judge such matters. Once saved always saved is 100% Biblical, it happened before the foundation of the world.
Imma go ahead and post a very humble, yet helpful comment. If you think you can lose your salvation, well... you best behave yourself. God is watching. 😊
@@smartchristians You don't understand, what a biblical covenant and biblical grace is. Grace is the term for ,,chesed'' and covenant is the term for ,,berit'' The New covenant is a free gift by grace but God decides what are the terms and that is obedience (faith). That's why in Hebrews 3:12 ,it talks to reborn christian, don't fall away from the faith.
I DID NOT LIKE HEARING THOSE MEN IT WAS SO PAINFUL - BUT LOVED THE TRUTH COMING FROM THE BIBLE THAT WAS READ OUT TO US THANK YOU COREY AND GOD BLESS YOU
Thank you so much for this Sir! I was following you with the Greek and English out and you were dead on! I appreciate your ministry so much. I their video on CZcams and I was hoping you dealt with it. God is so good!
The wide way is the "works" way. MOST people believe that if they do good works, the will go to heaven. The narrow way is just plain old trust in the finished redemptive work of Christ.
I received so much clarity from this teaching of yours on scriptures that I have been confused about such as "examine yourselves" I watched parts of the video reference from GF ministries. I had to turn it off after awhile. So when I saw your video I HAD to watch your rebuttal. Thank you so much for your work! I would love if you would do a video about the topic of him appearing to those who are looking for him such as in Hebrews 9:27-28. Thank you brother!
@@dachristiangamerthe Jews were in the vine, but they were cutoff due to Unbeleif. We too who are grafted in will be cutoff if we don't continue in God's goodness (by faith)
@@beaberean3286those who were cut off NEVER believed. God’s goodness was toward them, leading them out of Egypt, but some of them still did not believe. Now salvation is open to all, God’s goodness is toward us and we have an invitation into the family of God, but those who do not belief will be cut off.
Corey, thank you for this! I watch Good Fight Ministries, they have a lot of good content, but they are relentless against “once saved, always saved” and how wrong everyone is about the pre trib rapture. I’d love to hear you break down that topic! As a man of God, husband, and father, I want to be in the truth so that I can lead my family correctly. 🙏🏻
As I was listening to this, the Holy Spirit said you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free!!! He is worthy. Getting all of my theology previously from a work-based salvation denomination (aint gonna specify) the Lord finally removed me from it (I literally RAN for my life) and brought me to a word based fellowship where we dive in the word. I no longer fear for my life or salvation because he continues to perfect that which concerns me. I can make mistakes, sin (not that I practice sin) and not feel the threat of death hanging over my shoulders or my savior Jesus looking at me with disdain like he is ready to throw me away because he is always there telling me to repent (which means to look to HIM) and is ever interceding for me and helping me through his precious Holy Spirit. This life in Christ Jesus truly is liberating and I am so grateful to him.
OSAS is one of 2 foundational theological tests. The second is the Divinity of Jesus Christ. There are the baby steps of understanding scripture. Jesus Christ is the divine Son of God. He WILL save his people from their sins. All of them. Forever.
@@into-christ Can you tell me what causes a person to be unsaved? If it's sin, how much sin? If someone sins 10% of the time while they are a believer, verses someone who sins 11% of the time, do they keep their salvation by 1%? Does God grade our performance on a curve? Jesus said we must be perfect. Are you perfect? So even if you've sinned only 1% of the time, you are not perfect. James says that if you stumble in ONE part of the law, you stumble in ALL of the law. So how in the world are you going to make it into heaven based on anything that has to do with how well you obey God since you are not perfect in your obedience? I'm not advocating disobedience by the way, I just want a response that makes your argument reasonable.
@@TrueSight_333 Your question arises out of sheer ignorance about the nature of justification. To make it simple for you, I suggest you to just read John 15:6. What does it say? Either your are IN HIM or OUT of HIM eventually !!. If you believe and obey his commandments you are IN HIM. But if you disobey his commandment and remain un-repentent, you are "THROWN OUT" from HIM !! Jesus' message is very simple and clear !! Salvation is by GRACE ( eph 2:8). Both Faith & Good works are his gifts ( eph 2:8-10). We should co-operate with his graces by believing in him and obeying him. Jesus, Paul, James and the whole bible teaches that Obedience is necessary for salvation ( John 15:10). The idea "osas" is not found in the bible !!
@@into-christ Scripture is silent on that, isn't it? That must mean that only God knows whether a person truly believes or not according to their faith. We don't need to be assuming things or projecting things based on our OPINIONS. Stick with what scripture clearly says. Anything else is your opinion, sir.
When Jesus says in Revelation that He can blot a name out of the book, ends the debate! Period!!! Done! Work out your own salvation and walk with Him and do not listen to man’s understanding! When you know the truth you are held accountable! It’s more scary for a man to tell me that I have nothing to worry about! God says check yourself to see if ye be in the faith!!! Be careful, these be the days of deception!
We are saved by grace through faith ALONE. I won’t say that it doesn’t matter how you live though. We should live righteously and soberly here in this present world. But that’s not what saves us. It’s the atoning work of Christ on Calvary that saves us. Christ said all who the Father gave to Him, He (Christ) should lose NONE. He also said that they will NEVER PERISH.
Corry, I can’t be more thankful for your faithfulness in preaching the gospel in its entirety. You have helped me mature and grow in my knowledge and it brings me much joy when I listen to your videos. Again, I am very appreciative and I know that the Lord will have great rewards for you and the kingdom.🙏🏼💪🏾💪🏼
Brother i just came to your channel last week and it is confirming for me to hear you. I have not met anyone in person in the church that i attend that believes what you are saying and what i agree with. Im writing this halfway through the video so you may cover but most of the people i hear that refute eternal security dont say you cant be saves but they say if you die while committing sin or if Jesus comes while son is being committed that you will be lost
Thanks Corey for pointing out "if" is an addition to the text. Rev 3:12 ... Him that overcometh ... Rev 3:21 .. To him that overcometh... We overcome by grace alone through faith in Christ alone in Christ alone. God bless you Corey.
What qualifies as losing salvation? It is just having a bad day like that graph? Because that would mean you lost it, you gained it, you lost it again, then you got it again. God forbid you die the day you happen to be in a fallen state if that is the case.
If future sins aren’t forgiven, then that means that Jesus would have to come back to Earth and die AGAIN. Scripture indicates no such thing. Christ clearly said “It is FINISHED!” Also, Hebrews says that “Christ offered up ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER.” When Christ offered Himself on the Cross, ALL of our sins were future. His sacrifice was Once For All Time. (Past, present, future)
● For by one Offering He has perfected for ever those |who are| being sanctified. - Heb 10^14 一 translated "for ever" here is actually the Greek phrase "εις το διηνεκες" [eis to diēnekes] = *continually* (Strong's), in (the) perpetuity (Marshall's literal) 一 from διηνεκης [diēnekēs] = continuous. ● This exact same Greek phrase "εις το διηνεκες" has been translated "continually" in Heb 10^1 (concerning animal sacrifices): ... can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually ... (KJV). ● Compare with the phrase: "εις τον αιωνα" [eis ton aiōna] = for ever (Heb 7^28, 1-Pet 1^25, 1-Jn 2^17) and: "εις τον αιωνα του αιωνος" = for ever and ever (Heb 1^8) ● also, the word τετελειτεν [teteleiten] "perfected" here is in the Greek perfect: a tense refering to an action that is continuing to the present, and not an action completed in the past (Greek aorist) 一 sometimes translated into the English present tense.
I don’t get how good fight ministries doesn’t realize they are teaching a works based salvation when they believe you can lose salvation..as soon as we say we can lose salvation the only option I have is works to get it back or to keep it..thank you for this video once saved always saved
I get the perspective of once saved always saved but why does Jesus warn to have your lamps lit. What about revelation 3:5. I believe people walking around here like yea im saved are arrogant and not humble. How do you know you are of the elect. This is where I am, right now. All I know is that God calls us to obey his commands and it's hard, but with everything going on in the world we have to get right. Read you bibles everyone everyday, there is a huge spiritual war right now and when you look around everyone is living their lives regularly like in the days of Noah. I know works won't get you to heaven but proof of your salvation is the righteousness done through you. I don't want to go to heaven believing once saved always saved and God saying get away I never knew you worker of iniquity.
spend more time in the books that are directly to us in the body of Christ, Paul's 13 epistles romans through Philemon ! the Old Testament is what I call the Israel saga its all about Israel and their coming messiah, and what most people don't get is that most of Matthew mark Luke and John are still to Israel before atonement! not the body of christ after atonement so people take what's commanded and expected from Israel and place them on the body of Christ, when we are after the blood we are saved sealed and justified by the blood , they had other things they had to do to be justified and most Christians don't separate the 2 the body of christ gospel is believe the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for your forgiveness and justification ! 1Corinthians 15:1-4 is our Gospel believing that is how we are saved Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain. 3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures. Ephesians 1:13-14 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14who[d] is the [e]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
@wolfwatchers hmmm, I haven't heard of the Gospels being told just to Israel. Idk if I'm misunderstanding you, but from what I understand, there is the old covenant and the new covenant. The old covenant was given through Moses on the mount, and the new covenant was made through Jesus. When you read Isaiah 49, it explains that the Redeemer, the Holy one, will be sent for Israel but also for the gentiles, which is us. If that is the case, then Jesus's teachings would be for us, too. Plus, I agree that the epistles, especially Roman's is a great understanding of how we should live as Christians, and that, yes, only Christ is the way into heaven but those that truly believe will be evident through the righteousness done through them which is the following of the commands in the new covenant. So if you proclaim to be Christian but yet still commit acts of the flesh all the time, then I would question if you are truly saved. I'm still a baby when it comes to the scriptures. I haven't read the whole Bible yet. I've read the new testament and I'm in the old in Jeremiah right now. I also have a mentor helping me understand and teaching me how to study the scriptures. So I got a ways to go.
I appreciated this teaching! In my personal belief, i understand that salvation is a daily struggle, can be hour to hour, minute to minute! But GOD is so GOOD that everytime you go to him in repentence, you are saved!
Your video on this topic is very good and detailed. I read the early church fathers to see their thoughts through their writings and compare it to scripture and the context of their era. People like you mentioned can be wrong and change over time as we grow in the faith.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.” I John 2:19 NKJV
The most troubling part of this documentary is when they suggest that only believer's past sins are forgiven and not their future ones. These texts couldn't be any more clear: Proverbs 10:12 - "Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth ALL sins." Colossians 2:13 - "And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you ALL trespasses." 1 John 1:7 - "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from ALL sin." 1 John 2:12 - "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake." Those passages that talk about sins past or old sins (Romans 3:25 and 2 Peter 1:9) don't say that ONLY our past sins are forgiven. If Christ didn't die for all of our sins, then Christ's work was incomplete, even though it was complete, because He said, "It is finished." (John 19:30).
You contradicted yourself with first John 1:7 & Took It Out Of context! if you walk in the light, the blood of Jesus, Will cleanse you of all sin! Previous verse. If you walk in darkness, you’re a liar, and do not the truth. 1 John 1: 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[b] sin. Jesus didn’t die so you can keep on sinning
@@ohgin12345 So there’s 613 Commandments in the Old Testament you have to meticulously obey and 0 in the New Testament? You’re a baby Christian if You believe that, There’s 1000+ Commandments in the New Testament, we are under the law of Christ Says Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 9:21! Anytime, you see the word faith it means faithfulness in the Greek [Pistis] in the hermeneutics - which is the arts and science of biblical interpretation! So John 3:16 is present future tense it’s not past tense believed, it’s believes, you continue to believe in Christ you’ll be saved ! And as far as first John 1:7 says, if you continue to walk in the light, the blood of Jesus Will cleanse you from all sin! John 3:36 look that up in the original language, a.k.a. the new American standard, the closest English translation we have to the Greek! It says if you obey Jesus, you’ll have everlasting life! And there’s so much more scriptures, that say we are saved for good works not from good works Ephesians 2:8-10
IF indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven… Colossians 1:23 People can and do fall away. And yes, they were truly saved!
Falling Angels and the dead that didn't know God cannot be saved. Anyone can change, so they have an opportunity to be saved. It's all about your belief and how strong your heart is in your belief. God knows your heart, you cannot hide from God, ever. This is wonderful, because there are so many people who lean to their own understanding. It's because some of them are trying to protect their agenda, to make a profit. I can say this Corey, some of us believe, some of us do not, but some of us don't have a choice. I was trying to figure out why I experienced what I did, but I found out when I started studying God's word. I want to know the truth and I don't trust everyone. I question everything.
Calvinism is logically bankrupt, and it makes God seem partial. For someone to have the audacity to say that God doesn't mess with some people, but others He does, is Biblically indefensible. God calls all men everywhere to repent.
for a true believer know HE over come all things fore us of this world and we are true to our failings and love HIM all the more as we abide in HIM, to HIM, from HIM, fore HIM, by HIM, to the FATHER, praise, honour and GLORY to HIM now and forever Amen. HE will raise us up on the last day
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It saddens me deeply to think there are so many “Christian’s” out there who believe a lie straight from hell that you can lose your salvation as if it’s man willing!!!! As if we gave ourselves the gift of salvation!! These people are relying on themselves instead of GOD!
The Book of the Revelation of Christ is written to the Churches, what is the meaning of the removal of the Candlestick out of it's place.....the candlestick represents the olive tree....which if we are saved we are connected to this tree/candlestick which is the tree vine....But if a branch is connected and unfruitful then what happens? John 15:2 or 6, look at the metaphor or comparison to someone that was connected. The Lord tells the Disciples in Matthew 5:20 unless your righteousness exceeds the scribes and Pharisees you won't enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Bringing into the conversation Rev 22:19 is referencing someone who has a PART In the book of life, in which there is a threat to take away his part out of the book of life.
@@darianhowery6377 do not waste your time. We know the truth and thank God that you know it. “But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:” 2 Peter 1:9-10 KJV
@belleelle1239 , Got You Sis, and I do appreciate Peter in this chapter giving his experience with the Lord being on Mt Transfiguration and testified to what he heard the Father say about Jesus out of heaven. He said the Lord shewed him about the time he had left, in his natural tabernacle and he states I wouldn't be negligent to put them always in remembrance of these things, and honestly Sis, the problem is we don't add to our Faith as Peter instructed in this Chapter verses 5,6,7. The Lord bless and keep you and your Family.
@@darianhowery6377 Amen!! What about 1 Peter 4? I see everyone only focusing on the sacrifice on the cross which is of course huge but what about His example in living a sinless life? Just imagine receiving a trophy 🏆 before actually running the race? Can you imagine. His sacrifice gave us the quickening but His life gave us the blueprint of being born again in Christ Jesus. I can go on and on but I won’t. God Bless you brother, may the Lord give you more understanding, wisdom, and courage to live a Godly life.
Good Documentary 👍🏾 perfect no. Truthful, yes. Corey says thats not what OSAS teaches. Really? Who decided that? There are nuances to any biblical construct. Corey learned nothing from his debate with Michael Brown.
Genuine question: Can we say that Paul "despairing of life" equates to suicidal thoughts? Suicide is the taking of one's life, therefore suicidal thoughts are thoughts to take one's life. You said, and I agree, that Paul wanted God to end to his life, not that Paul himself was going to end his life. We see similar instances of this with Elijah and Job, but none of these men think to take their own lives but rather ask God to do it for them. As a point of technicality, I don't think it can rightly be called suicidal.
Actually, once saved always saved is Biblical. Jesus went into the Holy of Holies once for all. To think anything else flies in the face of the sanctification work and continued advocacy of the Holy Spirit. That advocacy is the reason that God will be able to judge works and give rewards at the judgment seat of Christ (to the end that we would all be without excuse). God can say: "Hey, I sent my Son, I gave you everything you needed to be kept in this wicked world). The old covenant passed away (death of the testator (ushering the new). God cut covenant with Israel. He says: "I will." "I will put my law in them, and write it on their hearts." We can never work for the grace which is a gift of God.. The point is that the working of the Holy Spirit in the new birth causes us to be transformed in the image of Jesus. So, there's no way to have the Holy Spirit and have the urge to keep being antagonist to God and grieving the Spirit. No... we come along. Some slower than others, but we come along according to Philippians 2:12-13).
Romans 6 shows that believers can "let sin reign in their mortal body." So that's why you cannot look at how someone lives morally to see if they're saved or not. 1 Corinthians 3 is another example, where Paul says to genuine believers: "And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?"
Yes, once saved always saved. If he dwells in you you cannot sin. True salvation vs worldly salvation. Old testament teaches the spirit can leave you but in the new it abides in you forever. So when we believe it can leave us it's because we still have short comings we want to justify
so questions: what does one have to do or not do to go from being saved to not saved? is not that "doing" or "not doing" a sin? if not a sin, what is it? if it is a sin, did not Jesus pay for it on the cross?
Actually, there *is reason* to warn them. It is a matter of justice for God to ensure that they are warned of the consequences of not seeking him or persevering in seeking him.
Cory please answer me this one as well: Can a person be a Christian if he or she does not read the bible and don't believe the bible, go to church or pray. Thanks so much.
Repent, Believe, Confess, and Receive Jesus Christ as your Lord God and Savior DAILY. Keeping your eyes on Jesus, not looking to the left, or right, and keep running the good race, and fighting the good fight with all your heart. For your faith in Jesus the size of a mustard seed, will move your mountains, and that same faith in Jesus, will help you overcome the obstacles along your journey that the Precious Lord has blessed you with. Praise Jesus Lord God and Savior AMEN.
Great job Corey. Not sure how the scholars miss it, the two groups are seen all through the Bible. The people of God and the people among the people of God.
I just caught something. Heb. 6.4 explain partake of the Holy Spirit. How does that happen? So they’re not baptized in the Holy Spirit but sprinkled. Idk that’s odd
my friend, once saved always saved is what the gospel is-- because it's impossible for God to lie or play tricks with our minds. We are not saved based on any works of righteousness we do, it is by grace alone, by faith alone in Christ alone. Everything else is works of righteousness that God gave us to do for our own benefits and to obtain rewards, and be an example of children of the kingdom. Those who do nothing but hold the profession of their faith of the Son of God are children of God and therefore are sealed unto the day of redemption. That's the promise of God. Many folks have problem understanding and accepting this fact for the simple fact that is impossible for man but not with God.
1:05:01 The very thing that the book of revelation warns against concerning adding it taking away from the things written the book(Rev 22:18) is the very thing they're doing
I’m so confused because I thought I was agreeing in the beginning with the guys in the video. I’m trying to figure out what’s the argument about. I thought that you could lose salvation.. If somebody is saved, but not really having an outward showing, can they still get to heaven? I know we’re not safe by our works, but we’re literally not doing anything and living the way we used to, but still claim God. Are we really saved? So if we can’t lose our salvation, we can still get into heaven by doing the bare minimum. I think Corey‘s argument is if you are saved, there would be an inward change within you that would want you to be holy which can/will show outward changes. I’m assuming… Still trying to figure this out…
@@kellykade For me being saved was receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. The comforter which the Lord said he would leave with us to lead and guide us into all truth. The Holy Ghost intercedes on our behalf in prayer in an unknown tongue which the enemy doesn’t understand. The enemy only knows what we “say” and not what we think. In order to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven we must be born again. But born of the spirit (The Holy Ghost). They that worship Jesus must worship him in Spirit and in truth. Evidence of having the Holy Ghost is a quickening spirit and speaking in tongues. When I sought the Lord, I tarried every day by praying on my knees, calling on the name of Jesus over and over and also saying Hallelujah. Knock and the door shall be opened, seek and ye shall find. after 3 months of seeking - the Lord blessed me with the gift of the Holy Ghost. The choir was singing in my church and I cried out to God. I felt a heat at the top of my head and it started to travel up and down my back to the crown of my head. I felt light and started to speak in another tongue. My life has never been the same and ever since then until now when I pray the Holy Ghost intercedes and prays on my behalf, for we know not what to pray for. It also comforts and leads me into all truth. Can a person lose their salvation? Yes they can. It’s called being a backslider. It’s in the Bible that when a person who knew the Lord loses salvation they are worst of than if they never knew him and seven spirits enter him afterwards. They no longer speak in tongues or have the quickening spirit. So I believe you can lose salvation it there is always hope in Christ to be reclaimed.
No. A woks based salvation is a different gospel ( see Galatians). The passage you referenced is that in view of our salvation, we are to work . This video should help. czcams.com/video/MZI1aRNWZrI/video.htmlsi=RX_E8HaS3yqhFLUr
I do have a question that I'm hope it will be answered. One gets saved by believing in Jesus and his ressuration. So I can to faith by believing. What happens if I intentionally choose to stop believing? Would I still be saved?
What you've said doesn't make any sense. A person who truly believes in Christ and accepts Him as their saviour is born again and becomes indwelled by the Holy Spirit. You are forever changed. How would you and why would you suddenly just stop believing? A born again child of God doesn't just decide to not believe one day ...doesn't make sense. You're describing someone who was never really a believer
What would the Holy Spirit be doing in that case? Ez 36 says they will walk in His statutes. Jesus says the debt is paid and Paul says it is canceled and nailed to the cross. He is literally referring to every subsequent debt
Bible says GOD will complete a work in us that HE has begun.
But only if we co-operate with him and respond to his graces !!
@@into-christwhat verse says that
Amen 🙏🏾 it’s very simple
Agree because now have a hand in GODS work in our lives which we do not
@@jtmedena1 2 Cor 6:1 "Working TOGETHER WITH HIM ( Συνεργοῦντες =synergountes=co-operate), then, we appeal to you not to receive the grace of God in vain"
1 John 2:19 (ESV): 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us.
Once we are in the Hand of God we can not be snatched away ,, by anyone including yourself
Sadly when the Israelites left Egypt there were in the Hand of God and yet only two of the adults who left Egypt entered the promised land. Many perished in the desert even though they were in God's Hand when they crossed the Red Sea on dry land. Narrow is the way and narrow is the gate few find it. Take this warning seriously or perish
I AGREE BIG TIME
@kediasjackson101 this was before the cross the final sacrifice .. so you are basically calling christ a liar saying you can lose what he has given you
@kediasjackson101 got alot more scriptures to back once saved always saved then not .. actually all objections are out of context.. and you make it a works based salvation which is no salvation at all so be warned before YOU perish
@@MoStBlEsSeD I humbly disagree.. The question is when are you saved? When you believe and accept Christ as Lord and Saviour or when you believe persevere and are resurrected to life while others are resurrected to eternal damnation? You will not lose your salvation if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain 1 Corinth 15:1-2. This Apostle Paul who also warns the believing Jews in Rome when writing to them in Hebrews 6:4-6 it would be impossible to renew again to repentance those who fall away since they crucify again for themselves the son of God and put Him to open shame. also why would the bible warn about the unpardonable sin if no one can lose their salvation.
People who are against once saved are really having a vantage point issue. God's vantage point is eternity. He already knows who is saved. Man's vantage point is lateral and largely based on outside appearances (fruit inspecting). This is how Jesus could say what He said in Matthew 21:30-32. An external religion, full of piety and good works is not wrong, but it is not the requirement for salvation. It is the result of salvation.
Well said, well said!!
Amen!
“For I am convinced [and continue to be convinced-beyond any doubt] that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present and threatening, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the [unlimited] love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”
Romans 8:38-39
You have been a great help this is the first time Ive posted here I think. The above verse has helped me in dark times. If you are truly saved this verse is for us who are sheep. We will struggle with sin, and we will know we are truly saved when the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sin and not turn us over to it.
God knows who really believes in Jesus.
Thanks again
Paul is talking to Christians in Romans that will continue in their salvation , he says offer your body as a living sacrifice Romans 12:1-2 it’s only reasonable that you do this so if people don’t do that and they turn their back on God they’re not once saved always saved. It doesn’t exist. !
Titus is three chapters long it says to do good works 6 times, and in the middle of Titus, it says grace teaches us to say no to a godliness. So if we’re not saying no to godliness, we don’t have the true grace of God, according to Titus, 2:11-12 !Titus, along with the book of James that says we are justified by works and not by faith only Says James 2:24. !
Historically James, by most Scholastic accounts was the first New Testament book written that’s why it says to the 12 tribes before the Jerusalem church was scattered !
Brother you're making salvation legalistic. Be careful not to exalt human behavior above the cross
@@jjphankJames 2:24 is saying that we demonstrate that we have faith by doing good works. It is the same as bearing good fruit. Anyone who claims that they are in Christ but does not bear fruit is deceived.
@@tradinglikeamillionaire4312 no people talk to much hyper grace in their theology. That’s the problem read Revelation two and three.
Also, once saved always saved is a lie
Nothing CAN separate us but free will
Our righteousness is as " Filthy Rags" according to Paul 😅. Thank God that Christ died for my sins and my debt has been paid in full. ❤
What's the point of repentance then?..ur good to go
@@brianvincavage7626 Great question. I'll say this...At its core, repentance is and should be a routine act that includes not only an admission of wrongdoing, but also a pledge to do better. Everyday we should be getting better. If you're not growing as a Christian than there's something not right spiritually. I'm not saying you specifically...I'm speaking for myself and everyone who says they are saved. The Bible says that if we say we have no sin, we lie and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful to forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness ( 1 John 1:8-10)
@@brianvincavage7626fellowship not Salvtion that’s the point of it
@@Kingjamesbible161 lol...ya
Aries man?
This is how I look at it…Is it true or not that it was the work of Christ alone that saves us? What that documentary was teaching is a work based salvation! The verses that seem to say that a man can lose their salvation are there to show who a real, genuine, born again believer looks like! Christ saves us as His children and He will not lose any of His own! If a man loses their salvation then does that mean Jesus lost one of His own? Think about that for a moment. If a man loses their salvation then that means that that man was once a child of God, right? If that man was a child of God and then that man loses that right to be a child of God, which in turn means Jesus lost one of His own! Is Jesus a liar? No, Jesus is no liar and He Himself through the power of the Holy Spirit will present His own people faultless before His presence at the end! Salvation is not in our own hands to keep, salvation is in Gods power to keep His own!
Jesus "Justifies" you to be able to come to the father. "Santification" is your works of obedience to walking in the Spirit. In which you can lose your salvation by walking in your way of the flesh. "Glorification" is your rewards for walking the way of God.
But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
Matthew 24:13
Agreed! And God is the one who keep me and make me endure to the end.
Ephesians 4:30 “grieve not the Holy Spirit, whereby ye sealed unto the day of redemption.”
@@ysteinbergsvik9853we must continue on in the faith to the end. That’s how we endure. God doesn’t do it for us. Yes, He empowers us and guides us through the Holy Spirit while He gives us free choice to follow Him or not.
Why were there so many warnings of not falling away if it were not possible? We’re not like robots. God wants us to endure and continue on. Yet some do walk away from the faith. God says it would be better to have never known righteousness 2 Peter 2:1. Others call themselves Christian’s yet continue on in sin and will not inherit the kingdom of God. The Bible is filled with warnings. Even in the OT, the Holy Spirit left King Saul. We can grieve the spirit and eventually stop listening to Him and harden our hearts.
Endure in the faith brothers and sisters to the end ✝️
@@NaileaGuerrero Yes we overcome by the power of God. Anyone who falls away was never in Christ.
@@NaileaGuerrero RIGHT,! God doesn't force us to be with him. We have a free choice. So it is easy to say, when a person doesn't continue, that he wasn't a christian.
Agreed Corey. The men in the opening clips do not seem to know what OSAS is. It is that confusion that blinds the eye to eternal security. OSAS doesn’t mean saved with an eternally inconsequential license to sin. To reject OSAS is to encourage a works based salvation.
OSAS is, by definition, a license to sin. It can't be any other way.
@AJTramberg There are so many implications to thinking that way about eternal security, chief among them is whether its proponents are in the faith.
Can you objectively state that believers who affirm eternal security live out their faith in sinful depravity without concern for how God feels about it?
Eternal security is not divorced from Rom. 6:1.
And since you believe that eternal security means permission to sin you clearly do not understand it either.
@@AJTramberg definitely not . I pray God opens your eyes to your foolish way of thinking , how arrogant do you have to be to think you can lose your salvation? If it were so guess what … you “ loss “ it a long time ago but it isn’t .
@@AJTrambergNo one who continues a lifestyle of sin is in Christ.
So i must believe osas to be saved?
Being saved means one is destined for eternal life with God and Christ. It’s not a game of ‘seesaw’. When someone is ‘saved’ their spirit(the real you) is born again. But the flesh has to be ‘reconstituted’. Anything other has to be addressed on ‘judgment day’. Jesus died once for all, He’s not going to do it again. Once you’re saved that’s a done deal, final done deal. Now, whatever a person does after they’re is by their flesh, the ‘sinful nature’. Apostle Paul once said “the things I should do I don’t do, but things I don’t want to do I do. God’s mercies endure forever(Psalm 136). God’s mercies endure forever in the name of Jesus Christ. Don’t listen to anybody who says you can lose your salvation. That’s false doctrine. Moreover, God said nothing will separate His love from His children in Jesus.👍🙏🏼
Amen,
...keep sinning then
@@brianvincavage7626 you know you will!
@@Cornbread-gi6kt that's where u are wrong.. Psalms 19:13..Lord keep me from presumptuous sins(willful sinning) so I'm not guilty of the great transgression...I can't handle willfully sinning..my conscience can't handle it...that's being saved.. anything else, I would question
@@Cornbread-gi6kt just curious..what sin are u not willing to give up for ur king, that died the most horrible death to give u the ability to quit sinning?..porn? Masterbation? Drugs? Fornication?
None of these people who think you can lose your salvation can tell us where the tipping point is. Where is the point where someone loses their salvation? It's very vague and it errodes assurance.
Hence the warnings. Don't live your life looking for a tipping point.
@@AJTramberg no one will reach perfection in this life. So as we press toward the mark and fall short, when will someone allegedly lose their salvation? How will you have assurance that you are saved?
Psalms 19: 13.. keep me from presumptuous sins(willful sinning)
Thanks Brother Corey 🙏❤ I don't understand why anyone would want to believe that you can lose your salvation. Where is the assurance and peace? 😢
You know, there is real evil in our world to fight. The Christian bickering is unfortunate. Salvation is God's work, not ours. Everybody should be wise enough to know that we may not see this evidence because it is not really our place and because we are unqualified to judge such matters.
Once saved always saved is 100% Biblical, it happened before the foundation of the world.
Imma go ahead and post a very humble, yet helpful comment. If you think you can lose your salvation, well... you best behave yourself. God is watching. 😊
Well said
@@smartchristians You don't understand, what a biblical covenant and biblical grace is.
Grace is the term for ,,chesed'' and covenant is the term for ,,berit''
The New covenant is a free gift by grace but God decides what are the terms and that is obedience (faith). That's why in Hebrews 3:12 ,it talks to reborn christian, don't fall away from the faith.
I DID NOT LIKE HEARING THOSE MEN IT WAS SO PAINFUL - BUT LOVED THE TRUTH COMING FROM THE BIBLE THAT WAS READ OUT TO US THANK YOU COREY AND GOD BLESS YOU
Thank you so much for this Sir! I was following you with the Greek and English out and you were dead on! I appreciate your ministry so much. I their video on CZcams and I was hoping you dealt with it. God is so good!
This lesson was 🔥🔥🔥 Thank you.
Thank you Cory, eternity is eternity we are saved forever Thank you Jesus. Keep teaching God's word.
The wide way is the "works" way. MOST people believe that if they do good works, the will go to heaven. The narrow way is just plain old trust in the finished redemptive work of Christ.
I received so much clarity from this teaching of yours on scriptures that I have been confused about such as "examine yourselves" I watched parts of the video reference from GF ministries. I had to turn it off after awhile. So when I saw your video I HAD to watch your rebuttal.
Thank you so much for your work! I would love if you would do a video about the topic of him appearing to those who are looking for him such as in Hebrews 9:27-28. Thank you brother!
These guys are like: Yes you can lose your Salvation but I haven’t lost mine in over 35 years lol how arrogant does that sound.
Arrogant is saying you can't lose it but angels and some Jews have.
And placing yourself above God lol
@@BrandonAsbury who said anything about Angel and Jews losing their Salvation? Are you well?
@@dachristiangamerthe Jews were in the vine, but they were cutoff due to Unbeleif. We too who are grafted in will be cutoff if we don't continue in God's goodness (by faith)
@@beaberean3286those who were cut off NEVER believed. God’s goodness was toward them, leading them out of Egypt, but some of them still did not believe. Now salvation is open to all, God’s goodness is toward us and we have an invitation into the family of God, but those who do not belief will be cut off.
Corey, thank you for this! I watch Good Fight Ministries, they have a lot of good content, but they are relentless against “once saved, always saved” and how wrong everyone is about the pre trib rapture. I’d love to hear you break down that topic! As a man of God, husband, and father, I want to be in the truth so that I can lead my family correctly. 🙏🏻
Thanks for taking the time and explaining this so well Corey!
Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow!!! Outstanding! You did not waste your time on me, Corey! Just wonderful!!!
Praise the Lord Corey, you are taking on biblical giant's in your debate and doing an excellent job. God bless you.
As I was listening to this, the Holy Spirit said you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free!!! He is worthy. Getting all of my theology previously from a work-based salvation denomination (aint gonna specify) the Lord finally removed me from it (I literally RAN for my life) and brought me to a word based fellowship where we dive in the word. I no longer fear for my life or salvation because he continues to perfect that which concerns me. I can make mistakes, sin (not that I practice sin) and not feel the threat of death hanging over my shoulders or my savior Jesus looking at me with disdain like he is ready to throw me away because he is always there telling me to repent (which means to look to HIM) and is ever interceding for me and helping me through his precious Holy Spirit. This life in Christ Jesus truly is liberating and I am so grateful to him.
OSAS is one of 2 foundational theological tests. The second is the Divinity of Jesus Christ. There are the baby steps of understanding scripture. Jesus Christ is the divine Son of God. He WILL save his people from their sins. All of them. Forever.
How can you put the unbiblical idea "osas" before the divinity of Christ?
@@into-christ Can you tell me what causes a person to be unsaved? If it's sin, how much sin? If someone sins 10% of the time while they are a believer, verses someone who sins 11% of the time, do they keep their salvation by 1%? Does God grade our performance on a curve? Jesus said we must be perfect. Are you perfect? So even if you've sinned only 1% of the time, you are not perfect. James says that if you stumble in ONE part of the law, you stumble in ALL of the law. So how in the world are you going to make it into heaven based on anything that has to do with how well you obey God since you are not perfect in your obedience? I'm not advocating disobedience by the way, I just want a response that makes your argument reasonable.
@@TrueSight_333 The same question is applicable to "faith" also! How much faith is enough to be saved? How strong our faith should be to be saved?
@@TrueSight_333
Your question arises out of sheer ignorance about the nature of justification. To make it simple for you, I suggest you to just read John 15:6. What does it say? Either your are IN HIM or OUT of HIM eventually !!. If you believe and obey his commandments you are IN HIM. But if you disobey his commandment and remain un-repentent, you are "THROWN OUT" from HIM !! Jesus' message is very simple and clear !! Salvation is by GRACE ( eph 2:8). Both Faith & Good works are his gifts ( eph 2:8-10). We should co-operate with his graces by believing in him and obeying him. Jesus, Paul, James and the whole bible teaches that Obedience is necessary for salvation ( John 15:10). The idea "osas" is not found in the bible !!
@@into-christ Scripture is silent on that, isn't it? That must mean that only God knows whether a person truly believes or not according to their faith. We don't need to be assuming things or projecting things based on our OPINIONS. Stick with what scripture clearly says. Anything else is your opinion, sir.
As always thanks for preaching and teaching the truth!
When Jesus says in Revelation that He can blot a name out of the book, ends the debate! Period!!! Done!
Work out your own salvation and walk with Him and do not listen to man’s understanding! When you know the truth you are held accountable!
It’s more scary for a man to tell me that I have nothing to worry about!
God says check yourself to see if ye be in the faith!!! Be careful, these be the days of deception!
So your salvation is based on your own works are you saying.
Facts!!!
Amen Brother!!!!
We are saved by grace through faith ALONE. I won’t say that it doesn’t matter how you live though.
We should live righteously and soberly here in this present world. But that’s not what saves us. It’s the atoning work of Christ on Calvary that saves us.
Christ said all who the Father gave to Him, He (Christ) should lose NONE. He also said that they will NEVER PERISH.
Where does Jesus EVER say he will blot someone's name out? He says the opposite.
Cory, you are teaching the gospel 🙌 keep keeping my Brutha
Corry, I can’t be more thankful for your faithfulness in preaching the gospel in its entirety. You have helped me mature and grow in my knowledge and it brings me much joy when I listen to your videos. Again, I am very appreciative and I know that the Lord will have great rewards for you and the kingdom.🙏🏼💪🏾💪🏼
Brother i just came to your channel last week and it is confirming for me to hear you. I have not met anyone in person in the church that i attend that believes what you are saying and what i agree with. Im writing this halfway through the video so you may cover but most of the people i hear that refute eternal security dont say you cant be saves but they say if you die while committing sin or if Jesus comes while son is being committed that you will be lost
God bless you Corey, thank you thank you letting the Word and only the Word speak.
Thanks Corey for pointing out "if" is an addition to the text.
Rev 3:12 ... Him that overcometh ...
Rev 3:21 .. To him that overcometh...
We overcome by grace alone through faith in Christ alone in Christ alone. God bless you Corey.
'How to be Christian' can hold your hand through this argument.
What qualifies as losing salvation? It is just having a bad day like that graph? Because that would mean you lost it, you gained it, you lost it again, then you got it again. God forbid you die the day you happen to be in a fallen state if that is the case.
This is the legalistic message that is preached when you leave out the finished work of Christ!
The whole point of the parable of the 10 virgins is being overlooked here.
@@Jentalks380 Which is?
If future sins aren’t forgiven, then that means that Jesus would have to come back to Earth and die AGAIN.
Scripture indicates no such thing. Christ clearly said “It is FINISHED!”
Also, Hebrews says that “Christ offered up ONE sacrifice for sins FOREVER.”
When Christ offered Himself on the Cross, ALL of our sins were future.
His sacrifice was Once For All Time. (Past, present, future)
It's nice to see someone post something that can actually be supported by scripture. There are a LOT of biblically illiterate people here...
● For by one Offering He has perfected for ever those |who are| being sanctified.
- Heb 10^14
一 translated "for ever" here is actually the Greek phrase "εις το διηνεκες" [eis to diēnekes] = *continually* (Strong's), in (the) perpetuity (Marshall's literal) 一 from διηνεκης [diēnekēs] = continuous.
● This exact same Greek phrase "εις το διηνεκες" has been translated "continually" in Heb 10^1 (concerning animal sacrifices):
... can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually ... (KJV).
● Compare with the phrase:
"εις τον αιωνα" [eis ton aiōna]
= for ever
(Heb 7^28, 1-Pet 1^25, 1-Jn 2^17)
and: "εις τον αιωνα του αιωνος"
= for ever and ever
(Heb 1^8)
● also, the word τετελειτεν [teteleiten] "perfected" here is in the Greek perfect: a tense refering to an action that is continuing to the present, and not an action completed in the past (Greek aorist) 一 sometimes translated into the English present tense.
Snap out of it
Whew, Corey. I thought had switched your position. Keep it up brother
Fact the people who think people can lose there salvation but they haven't,already lost it
Thank you brother for addressing this subject.
And let us all say AMEN! Excellent work man of God❤
I don’t get how good fight ministries doesn’t realize they are teaching a works based salvation when they believe you can lose salvation..as soon as we say we can lose salvation the only option I have is works to get it back or to keep it..thank you for this video once saved always saved
Ty sir I love this message❤😊
Thank God for your patience and tenacity!
Cookin' 👍
Thank you for this good word and balanced perspective.
Good stuff as usual, Corey.
Thanks!
I get the perspective of once saved always saved but why does Jesus warn to have your lamps lit. What about revelation 3:5. I believe people walking around here like yea im saved are arrogant and not humble. How do you know you are of the elect. This is where I am, right now. All I know is that God calls us to obey his commands and it's hard, but with everything going on in the world we have to get right. Read you bibles everyone everyday, there is a huge spiritual war right now and when you look around everyone is living their lives regularly like in the days of Noah. I know works won't get you to heaven but proof of your salvation is the righteousness done through you. I don't want to go to heaven believing once saved always saved and God saying get away I never knew you worker of iniquity.
spend more time in the books that are directly to us in the body of Christ, Paul's 13 epistles romans through Philemon ! the Old Testament is what I call the Israel saga its all about Israel and their coming messiah, and what most people don't get is that most of Matthew mark Luke and John are still to Israel before atonement! not the body of christ after atonement so people take what's commanded and expected from Israel and place them on the body of Christ,
when we are after the blood we are saved sealed and justified by the blood , they had other things they had to do to be justified and most Christians don't separate the 2
the body of christ gospel is believe the death burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for your forgiveness and justification !
1Corinthians 15:1-4 is our Gospel believing that is how we are saved
Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you-unless you believed in vain.
3For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures.
Ephesians 1:13-14
In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14who[d] is the [e]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
@wolfwatchers hmmm, I haven't heard of the Gospels being told just to Israel. Idk if I'm misunderstanding you, but from what I understand, there is the old covenant and the new covenant. The old covenant was given through Moses on the mount, and the new covenant was made through Jesus. When you read Isaiah 49, it explains that the Redeemer, the Holy one, will be sent for Israel but also for the gentiles, which is us. If that is the case, then Jesus's teachings would be for us, too. Plus, I agree that the epistles, especially Roman's is a great understanding of how we should live as Christians, and that, yes, only Christ is the way into heaven but those that truly believe will be evident through the righteousness done through them which is the following of the commands in the new covenant. So if you proclaim to be Christian but yet still commit acts of the flesh all the time, then I would question if you are truly saved. I'm still a baby when it comes to the scriptures. I haven't read the whole Bible yet. I've read the new testament and I'm in the old in Jeremiah right now. I also have a mentor helping me understand and teaching me how to study the scriptures. So I got a ways to go.
@@Handsome_Man-9 I don't want to get you confused but read Ephesians Galatians and the book of acts , God Bless you and your studies!
@@wolfwatchers God bless you too
I appreciated this teaching! In my personal belief, i understand that salvation is a daily struggle, can be hour to hour, minute to minute! But GOD is so GOOD that everytime you go to him in repentence, you are saved!
Your video on this topic is very good and detailed. I read the early church fathers to see their thoughts through their writings and compare it to scripture and the context of their era. People like you mentioned can be wrong and change over time as we grow in the faith.
“They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us; but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us.”
I John 2:19 NKJV
Pride goeth before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall! Take heed Corey!!!
The most troubling part of this documentary is when they suggest that only believer's past sins are forgiven and not their future ones. These texts couldn't be any more clear:
Proverbs 10:12 - "Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth ALL sins."
Colossians 2:13 - "And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you ALL trespasses."
1 John 1:7 - "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from ALL sin."
1 John 2:12 - "I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name’s sake."
Those passages that talk about sins past or old sins (Romans 3:25 and 2 Peter 1:9) don't say that ONLY our past sins are forgiven. If Christ didn't die for all of our sins, then Christ's work was incomplete, even though it was complete, because He said, "It is finished." (John 19:30).
You contradicted yourself with first John 1:7 & Took It Out Of context! if you walk in the light, the blood of Jesus, Will cleanse you of all sin! Previous verse. If you walk in darkness, you’re a liar, and do not the truth.
1 John 1: 6 If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth. 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all[b] sin.
Jesus didn’t die so you can keep on sinning
@@jjphank and real believers do not do that. Are you real?
@@ohgin12345 So there’s 613 Commandments in the Old Testament you have to meticulously obey and 0 in the New Testament? You’re a baby Christian if You believe that, There’s 1000+ Commandments in the New Testament, we are under the law of Christ Says Galatians 6:2, 1 Corinthians 9:21!
Anytime, you see the word faith it means faithfulness in the Greek [Pistis] in the hermeneutics - which is the arts and science of biblical interpretation!
So John 3:16 is present future tense it’s not past tense believed, it’s believes, you continue to believe in Christ you’ll be saved !
And as far as first John 1:7 says, if you continue to walk in the light, the blood of Jesus Will cleanse you from all sin!
John 3:36 look that up in the original language, a.k.a. the new American standard, the closest English translation we have to the Greek! It says if you obey Jesus, you’ll have everlasting life!
And there’s so much more scriptures, that say we are saved for good works not from good works Ephesians 2:8-10
@@jjphank So how many commandments where there during Moses time.
Now get lost and prepared to be burned
IF indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not shifting from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven…
Colossians 1:23
People can and do fall away. And yes, they were truly saved!
Falling Angels and the dead that didn't know God cannot be saved. Anyone can change, so they have an opportunity to be saved. It's all about your belief and how strong your heart is in your belief. God knows your heart, you cannot hide from God, ever.
This is wonderful, because there are so many people who lean to their own understanding. It's because some of them are trying to protect their agenda, to make a profit.
I can say this Corey, some of us believe, some of us do not, but some of us don't have a choice. I was trying to figure out why I experienced what I did, but I found out when I started studying God's word. I want to know the truth and I don't trust everyone. I question everything.
AMEN THANK YOU LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST 🙏 👼 ✝️
Calvinism is logically bankrupt, and it makes God seem partial. For someone to have the audacity to say that God doesn't mess with some people, but others He does, is Biblically indefensible. God calls all men everywhere to repent.
Outstanding study! Thank you
Great job Corey Thanks
for a true believer know HE over come all things fore us of this world and we are true to our failings and love HIM all the more as we abide in HIM, to HIM, from HIM, fore HIM, by HIM, to the FATHER, praise, honour and GLORY to HIM now and forever Amen. HE will raise us up on the last day
Where can I purchase the “Whatever God said” shirt? That’s so nice!
Corey, you’re the best you have Dr. Brown stumbling stumble over his words among you
God bless you Corey
It a shame I like good fight ministries but they wrong on this topic.. using origen is not good he castrated himself .. kinda a loon
Wonderful work. Amen.
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I would rather go to the scriptures, the infallible word of God for clarity of the truth than early church fathers or even NAR. God bless you Corey.
😂 "When I saw the title of your message, I thought to myself that this brother must be crazy, but you exceeded my expectations. I suggest you consider interviewing Dante Fortson, a historian from the tribe of Judah who shares our faith and does not follow any specific Camp doctrine."
Corey doesn't focus on the finished work of Jesus Christ. That's why his approach seems to be more legalistic
Thanks for this.
I'm glad you did a reaction to this video. I saw this documentary, and I disagreed with so many things.
You should have put those passages up for eternal security so we could screen shot them and look them up. I would personally love to know all of them.
So Corey you know who is saved or not saved?
It saddens me deeply to think there are so many “Christian’s” out there who believe a lie straight from hell that you can lose your salvation as if it’s man willing!!!! As if we gave ourselves the gift of salvation!!
These people are relying on themselves instead of GOD!
The Book of the Revelation of Christ is written to the Churches, what is the meaning of the removal of the Candlestick out of it's place.....the candlestick represents the olive tree....which if we are saved we are connected to this tree/candlestick which is the tree vine....But if a branch is connected and unfruitful then what happens? John 15:2 or 6, look at the metaphor or comparison to someone that was connected. The Lord tells the Disciples in Matthew 5:20 unless your righteousness exceeds the scribes and Pharisees you won't enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Bringing into the conversation Rev 22:19 is referencing someone who has a PART In the book of life, in which there is a threat to take away his part out of the book of life.
I am sorry but we do not rely on ourselves. We rely on Christ to save us, but recognize that Christ isn't forcing us to stay if we turn back.
@@darianhowery6377 do not waste your time. We know the truth and thank God that you know it. “But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins. Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:”
2 Peter 1:9-10 KJV
@belleelle1239 , Got You Sis, and I do appreciate Peter in this chapter giving his experience with the Lord being on Mt Transfiguration and testified to what he heard the Father say about Jesus out of heaven. He said the Lord shewed him about the time he had left, in his natural tabernacle and he states I wouldn't be negligent to put them always in remembrance of these things, and honestly Sis, the problem is we don't add to our Faith as Peter instructed in this Chapter verses 5,6,7. The Lord bless and keep you and your Family.
@@darianhowery6377 Amen!! What about 1 Peter 4? I see everyone only focusing on the sacrifice on the cross which is of course huge but what about His example in living a sinless life? Just imagine receiving a trophy 🏆 before actually running the race? Can you imagine. His sacrifice gave us the quickening but His life gave us the blueprint of being born again in Christ Jesus. I can go on and on but I won’t. God Bless you brother, may the Lord give you more understanding, wisdom, and courage to live a Godly life.
I've never seen so many modern day judiazers packed into one film!
Good Documentary 👍🏾 perfect no. Truthful, yes. Corey says thats not what OSAS teaches. Really? Who decided that? There are nuances to any biblical construct. Corey learned nothing from his debate with Michael Brown.
Genuine question: Can we say that Paul "despairing of life" equates to suicidal thoughts? Suicide is the taking of one's life, therefore suicidal thoughts are thoughts to take one's life. You said, and I agree, that Paul wanted God to end to his life, not that Paul himself was going to end his life. We see similar instances of this with Elijah and Job, but none of these men think to take their own lives but rather ask God to do it for them. As a point of technicality, I don't think it can rightly be called suicidal.
You scared me there for a moment.
He said "are they special or something? Did they go to antichrist class?" 😂🤣
Awesome teaching
Actually, once saved always saved is Biblical. Jesus went into the Holy of Holies once for all. To think anything else flies in the face of the sanctification work and continued advocacy of the Holy Spirit. That advocacy is the reason that God will be able to judge works and give rewards at the judgment seat of Christ (to the end that we would all be without excuse). God can say: "Hey, I sent my Son, I gave you everything you needed to be kept in this wicked world). The old covenant passed away (death of the testator (ushering the new). God cut covenant with Israel. He says: "I will." "I will put my law in them, and write it on their hearts." We can never work for the grace which is a gift of God.. The point is that the working of the Holy Spirit in the new birth causes us to be transformed in the image of Jesus. So, there's no way to have the Holy Spirit and have the urge to keep being antagonist to God and grieving the Spirit. No... we come along. Some slower than others, but we come along according to Philippians 2:12-13).
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Romans 6 shows that believers can "let sin reign in their mortal body." So that's why you cannot look at how someone lives morally to see if they're saved or not. 1 Corinthians 3 is another example, where Paul says to genuine believers:
"And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ. I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able. For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal? Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?"
Yes, once saved always saved. If he dwells in you you cannot sin. True salvation vs worldly salvation. Old testament teaches the spirit can leave you but in the new it abides in you forever. So when we believe it can leave us it's because we still have short comings we want to justify
so questions:
what does one have to do or not do to go from being saved to not saved?
is not that "doing" or "not doing" a sin?
if not a sin, what is it?
if it is a sin, did not Jesus pay for it on the cross?
I love your shirt!
Faith is the evidence of things Hoped For..
There is no need to warn those who are not truly born again against falling away. He seems to totally miss this point.
If a person who THINKS they are saved and are not, you say there is no need to warn them? Then what do you do to them?
Actually, there *is reason* to warn them. It is a matter of justice for God to ensure that they are warned of the consequences of not seeking him or persevering in seeking him.
@@smartchristians Warn them that they think they are born again and are not. Do not warn them against falling away from something they do not have.
Cory please answer me this one as well: Can a person be a Christian if he or she does not read the bible and don't believe the bible, go to church or pray. Thanks so much.
Cory, James 5:19 is Talking about the Christian, How can one stray if he or she is already strayed, one can only stray if he or she is in truth.
Repent, Believe, Confess, and Receive Jesus Christ as your Lord God and Savior DAILY. Keeping your eyes on Jesus, not looking to the left, or right, and keep running the good race, and fighting the good fight with all your heart. For your faith in Jesus the size of a mustard seed, will move your mountains, and that same faith in Jesus, will help you overcome the obstacles along your journey that the Precious Lord has blessed you with. Praise Jesus Lord God and Savior AMEN.
But what about 1 Corinthians 6:10? What if a saved person does any of these things mentioned in this verse?? And how do you know if Jesus knows you?
Great job Corey. Not sure how the scholars miss it, the two groups are seen all through the Bible. The people of God and the people among the people of God.
I just caught something. Heb. 6.4 explain partake of the Holy Spirit. How does that happen? So they’re not baptized in the Holy Spirit but sprinkled. Idk that’s odd
my friend, once saved always saved is what the gospel is-- because it's impossible for God to lie or play tricks with our minds. We are not saved based on any works of righteousness we do, it is by grace alone, by faith alone in Christ alone. Everything else is works of righteousness that God gave us to do for our own benefits and to obtain rewards, and be an example of children of the kingdom. Those who do nothing but hold the profession of their faith of the Son of God are children of God and therefore are sealed unto the day of redemption. That's the promise of God. Many folks have problem understanding and accepting this fact for the simple fact that is impossible for man but not with God.
Once saved always saved is the truth
1:05:01 The very thing that the book of revelation warns against concerning adding it taking away from the things written the book(Rev 22:18) is the very thing they're doing
The Bible says we are to work out our salvation with trembling and fear. This means there is work needing to be done to keep salvation.
I’m so confused because I thought I was agreeing in the beginning with the guys in the video. I’m trying to figure out what’s the argument about.
I thought that you could lose salvation..
If somebody is saved, but not really having an outward showing, can they still get to heaven? I know we’re not safe by our works, but we’re literally not doing anything and living the way we used to, but still claim God. Are we really saved?
So if we can’t lose our salvation, we can still get into heaven by doing the bare minimum.
I think Corey‘s argument is if you are saved, there would be an inward change within you that would want you to be holy which can/will show outward changes. I’m assuming…
Still trying to figure this out…
@@kellykade For me being saved was receiving the gift of the Holy Ghost. The comforter which the Lord said he would leave with us to lead and guide us into all truth. The Holy Ghost intercedes on our behalf in prayer in an unknown tongue which the enemy doesn’t understand. The enemy only knows what we “say” and not what we think.
In order to enter into the Kingdom of Heaven we must be born again. But born of the spirit (The Holy Ghost). They that worship Jesus must worship him in Spirit and in truth.
Evidence of having the Holy Ghost is a quickening spirit and speaking in tongues.
When I sought the Lord, I tarried every day by praying on my knees, calling on the name of Jesus over and over and also saying Hallelujah. Knock and the door shall be opened, seek and ye shall find.
after 3 months of seeking - the Lord blessed me with the gift of the Holy Ghost. The choir was singing in my church and I cried out to God. I felt a heat at the top of my head and it started to travel up and down my back to the crown of my head. I felt light and started to speak in another tongue. My life has never been the same and ever since then until now when I pray the Holy Ghost intercedes and prays on my behalf, for we know not what to pray for. It also comforts and leads me into all truth.
Can a person lose their salvation? Yes they can. It’s called being a backslider. It’s in the Bible that when a person who knew the Lord loses salvation they are worst of than if they never knew him and seven spirits enter him afterwards. They no longer speak in tongues or have the quickening spirit.
So I believe you can lose salvation it there is always hope in Christ to be reclaimed.
No. A woks based salvation is a different gospel ( see Galatians). The passage you referenced is that in view of our salvation, we are to work . This video should help. czcams.com/video/MZI1aRNWZrI/video.htmlsi=RX_E8HaS3yqhFLUr
You're quoting half of the sentence, don't stop with that verse, keep reading into verse 13 in Phil 2. Who's doing the work?
I do have a question that I'm hope it will be answered.
One gets saved by believing in Jesus and his ressuration. So I can to faith by believing. What happens if I intentionally choose to stop believing? Would I still be saved?
What you've said doesn't make any sense. A person who truly believes in Christ and accepts Him as their saviour is born again and becomes indwelled by the Holy Spirit. You are forever changed. How would you and why would you suddenly just stop believing? A born again child of God doesn't just decide to not believe one day ...doesn't make sense. You're describing someone who was never really a believer
What about the verse that says the Holy Spirit will teach us all things?
How we ought to run!
But Corey "the wicked run when noone chaseth" 🤔
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Debt is paid after returning mugs and payment. A month later, they steal something else and don't reconcile this time. Then what?
What would the Holy Spirit be doing in that case? Ez 36 says they will walk in His statutes. Jesus says the debt is paid and Paul says it is canceled and nailed to the cross. He is literally referring to every subsequent debt