Another pill-cam teardown

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  • čas přidán 14. 05. 2012
  • Teardown of Given RF pillcam.
    First pillcam teardown here : • Pill camera teardown
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  • @martinnash007
    @martinnash007 Před 9 lety +22

    I have had several of these through my gut. The nurse presents it to you in a box similar to a ring box. When you open the box the device is dormant and is in a "U" shaped clip. As soon as you take it from the clip it starts flashing. You then swallow it with a cup of special liquid that that prevents foaming as the camera begins its journey. It takes most of the day to make the trip and you usually wave it good bye when it drops to the bottom of the pan. They attach a small device to your waist that monitors the progress of the pill-cam during its trip. The device has a small lcd screen so that you can see where it is inside you from time to time. All the pictures are stills and the doctor downloads them and makes them into a little movie. The only painful part of the process is trying to remove the sticky sensor pad from your groin area.

    • @_Junkers
      @_Junkers Před 7 lety

      Did you have to take a special 'patency' pill to find out if whether one of these would get stuck in your gut?

    • @martinnash007
      @martinnash007 Před 7 lety

      Yes. Mine took a little longer than expected to travel and after 48 hours they did a CT scan to see where it was. But it was OK and they put it down to slow gut transit.

    • @stonecold7945
      @stonecold7945 Před 6 lety +3

      Did you get to keep the pill cam?

    • @hardscorerockkssss
      @hardscorerockkssss Před 6 lety

      martin nash lucky bastard it took for me 72 hours

    • @spiro9210
      @spiro9210 Před 5 lety +2

      Hello, I'm getting this done. Did you see it in your poop?

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety +1

    I'm a big fan of Tim - anyone who hasn't seen his 'secret life of the home/office' series should seek it out immediately most is on CZcams and elsewhere.

  • @Spacefish007
    @Spacefish007 Před 9 lety +7

    Very interesting, thanks for the nice teardown and analysis. Would be great to have a capture of the RF-Data. So someone can build a 20€/$ RTL-SDR Receiver :)

  • @Andrew_Sparrow
    @Andrew_Sparrow Před 12 lety +2

    Thanks for another interesting video. You remind me somewhat of one of my "heroes" growing up Tim Hunkin. You have a similar hunger for understanding how things work and being able to share that in a practical way.

    • @Tekwyzard
      @Tekwyzard Před 6 lety +1

      Tim Hunkin is still going strong! I rediscovered him a few months ago, and he's still as mad as a box of frogs. Was great to watch some documentaries he'd done that I'd missed when I was younger, and see even more contraptions, but this time have a better understanding of their workings.

  • @beatxtutorials9
    @beatxtutorials9 Před 8 lety +1

    Hello, have you considered the front camera to be the trigger to enable factory reset?
    I mean would be pretty simple to just use some simple image that could revive the thing :)
    The IC could just pick 16 points in the image and there you have your code

  • @bikingmnviking3801
    @bikingmnviking3801 Před 8 lety

    Excellent quality footage, may I ask what camera and set up you are using? I can see the split BNC input pointing up and down on the scope to the left of the one you were using would act as a strain relief but I've never seen that before... is there any time you use two probes on one input like you are implying there? Or is that just to keep the probe's wire from getting bent and abused since your scopes are higher than average benchtop?
    After reading your comment on the followup activation patent .. a couple of thoughts come to mind -- a) intentionally trying to cover as much ground of possibility to make it hard to copy as well as easy to sue EVEN IF it is not in this device which is devious in so many ways ...leaves other countries looking down paths that aren't even there and maybe part of why any one could have so much trouble figuring one out. I guess I forget my other thoughts but it sure was interesting to read everyone's ideas on the topic. I see you have a flight data teardown. Sad to hear today EgyptAir was likely terrorism. I've always wondered about those so I gotta see that next. Avionics was what my father did in WWII and taught electronics.

  • @anthonyj777
    @anthonyj777 Před 12 lety +1

    Another excellent video, please keep them coming.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    I did have a go at de-laminating the flex-rigid assembly but it was stuck too well! Maybe I'll give it some time in the pizza oven to soften it up!

  • @joohop
    @joohop Před 9 lety

    you know thats gonna lay on 1 side till the answer arrives ! mike did you ever work on C.B,s ?

  • @GraemeMurphy
    @GraemeMurphy Před 5 lety +1

    The "flex" as you call it is a flexible printed circuit board that my company developed and put on the market in the late 1960's. Great shame that they never had the good sense to patent it !

  • @nickbardom
    @nickbardom Před 7 lety

    Hi, have you ever find a solid way to activate it? I have one here and I want to play with it. Which pulses should I send to the reed switch?

  • @lifesavrdwd
    @lifesavrdwd Před 9 lety

    Mostly didn't know exactly what you were talking about, but I learned a little and enjoyed the rest. Thanks!

  • @mccunecp
    @mccunecp Před 12 lety

    did you try any thing that recives video transmissions over that freq. like some of the wireless cam stuff to see if it would pick it up. it would be cool if you could see something with it. would defently make a good spy cam if you could find a reciver for it or build one.

  • @howlingwolven
    @howlingwolven Před 11 lety

    Would it be possible to use the scope capture to write bits to a file and from there decode filetype and the captured image?

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    I wouldn't totally rule it out but seems a lot of effort/cost to include a receive capability just for that function - I suppose when in close proximity it wouldn't need to be particularly sensitive so a simple detector could probably do it.

  • @3DEditor
    @3DEditor Před 10 lety +1

    Are these available for sale? is there a micro hd card that records everything these capture? Or are the images just transferred wirelessly to an outer source? I'm looking for a micro hd camcorder as small as this that is waterproof and can record the video.

    • @HobkinBoi
      @HobkinBoi Před 9 lety +2

      Its not a video camera, it just takes stills. It transmits to a receiver that you wear. But I'm pretty sure they do make cameras that are meant to do what you need it to do.

  • @pcuser80
    @pcuser80 Před 12 lety

    Excellent teardown! Thanks
    Is it possible to decode the image?

  • @douro20
    @douro20 Před 12 lety

    Given-Imaging made the world's first capsule camera. It was based on defense technology- namely the micro-camera Rafael Defense developed for homing in on missiles.

  • @GeoN0JRJ
    @GeoN0JRJ Před 12 lety +1

    any way to reuse those as a hidden camera?

  • @sayanchx
    @sayanchx Před 12 lety

    awesome video as usual. I would love to see a teardown & analysis of a wireless insulin pump+glucose meter system !

  • @SmilingRob
    @SmilingRob Před 11 lety

    Yes I found a pdf that mentions the Zarlink ZL70081 on Google. It says it's transmit only, and has a diagram of a two PCB version that looks very similar to the one broken down. Also it includes an external photo that has the same logo. The pdf on biobrain1 has pretty pictures. There's a book "Integrated Microsystems: Electronics, Photonics, and Biotechnology" that has a chapter "Design of a Low-Power dual-mode MUX-based transmitter for biomedical applications" that describes the tx.

  • @TheCrazyInventor
    @TheCrazyInventor Před 12 lety +1

    Nice closeups, Mike. Good editing. :)

  • @randacnam7321
    @randacnam7321 Před 12 lety

    That is the clock crystal for the control chip. The 433Mcy/sec signal is generated by a frequency multiplier in the chip (27Mcy/sec*16=432Mcy/sec).

  • @readyrepairs
    @readyrepairs Před 9 lety

    I would assume that there is a timer from when it is powered on to when it actually starts taking pictures -- as these are probably not meant to take pictures of the upper gi etc -- likely for the lower gi.

  • @DoNotDisturbMe10
    @DoNotDisturbMe10 Před 12 lety

    Would you be able to get an image off one of these devices ?

  • @ExStaticBass
    @ExStaticBass Před 11 lety +1

    Personally, I'm fairly sure that these require a carrier signal from the video receiver module to go completely active. Once activated it waits for the pairing signal from the receiver and then goes into full operation.

  • @gushhnet
    @gushhnet Před 12 lety

    I think some of these have to be "activated" by the doctor first with the receiver unit that also has it's test mode to make sure you are not swallowing a dead piece of kit, even though they test to receive images before you even swallow it, perhaps this is used when the units are received from the manufacturer and they can thus return any duds?

  • @randacnam7321
    @randacnam7321 Před 12 lety

    It sounds like these operate on 433Mcy/sec as that is a fairly standard frequency for wireless communications.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    Panasonic HDC-SD20, Sony Vegas. Chip stills with Cheap USB microscope, a few with Canon EOS+Macro lens. Bare PCB shot at end done on a scanner.

  • @illustriouschin
    @illustriouschin Před 12 lety

    Perhaps the crystal timer throws a kill switch inside of the chip that prevents it from running again. I think I've read about that somewhere, they can etch it right into the silicon along with everything else.

  • @eufaulabrewski
    @eufaulabrewski Před 12 lety

    im interested in getting my hands on one of those pillcams how did you come across them?

  • @WrankledEngine
    @WrankledEngine Před 12 lety

    What about activating it with an RF Electro Magnetic pulse? Sorta like reading a Pet ID chip. Do the doctors just monitor ALL the pictures this sends? Or do they activate it once they have some idea it is "on location"? Do they data log its entire journey? How do they track or ID its location? Timestamp in the preamble?

  • @Bob220V
    @Bob220V Před 11 lety

    You can use a video receiver for RF wireless security cameras

  • @dermitza
    @dermitza Před 11 lety +1

    This sounds probable. The only thing you might be missing is that the activation is not happening through the camera, rather, through the LEDs. They could be switching their GPIOS as inputs when the LEDs are off and sensing light coming in. You can find lots of info online.

  • @SirFlanigan
    @SirFlanigan Před 11 lety

    I have one of these working it's way through me right now.
    The pill was not flashing inside the box (it comes in tiny a box with a clear top.) I got strapped with the belt and receiver first, then was told to remove the pill from the box. As soon as I picked it up, it began flashing.

    • @mandycooke8445
      @mandycooke8445 Před 6 lety

      SirFlanigan I swallowed mine at 7:00 am yesterday. I still haven’t seen it in the toilet yet. How long did it take for you to pass it?

  • @andyb7813
    @andyb7813 Před 11 lety

    Hi mike, being a biomedical engineer I really enjoyed this video, thanks

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    Highly unlikely - too complex. IF (and this is still a guess) the purpose is to prevent re-use, the activation process must be at the factory, to keep it secret.
    For ease of use, once activated it can then be turned on & off using the reed switch until the battery dies, and can only be restarted by replacing the battery and doing the activation again.

  • @JAGM77MX
    @JAGM77MX Před 9 lety

    I need to buy the Given FGS-0286 can you help?

  • @1112223333111
    @1112223333111 Před 12 lety

    27.000mhz have you tried to recieve the camera?

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    Not sure why you'd do it that way - the way I assume it works is you simply take the pill out of the case, at which point it starts flashing & transmitting, check that the receiver is receiving it, then swallow. Maybe someone who's had this done can comment.

  • @pcbsolutionsdotcom
    @pcbsolutionsdotcom Před 11 lety

    What is the primary purpose of using these? Is it for surgery?

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety +1

    may have been the case a few years ago, but LeCroy are losing the plot these days - they used to be kings of the high end but nowadays Agilent piss on them for useability and value.

  • @Cas77b
    @Cas77b Před 12 lety

    It goes through the entire digestive tract, and reuse may result in an infection. So, it is most likely one use disposable for liability reasons.

  • @maultrommel
    @maultrommel Před 11 lety

    looks like FSK - there are some scientific pdfs also covering pillcam stuff ...

  • @happycline
    @happycline Před 11 lety

    LED (light emitting diode) probably one of the first things you learn about in electronics, if he had to explain every single component every single time his vids would be hours longer then they already are.

  • @joshuamapula1568
    @joshuamapula1568 Před 9 lety +2

    what is the factory cost to build it?

    • @coler154
      @coler154 Před 4 lety +2

      Probably not much, its the medical grade testing/ approval that costs a ton

  • @darktherapy
    @darktherapy Před 12 lety

    Maybe there is a picture inside this pills shipping box, like a bar code that is sees to activate itself.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety

    Think very cheap webcam - there are some sample vids on youtube.
    My scope is Agilent MSO6043A - new Agilent MSOX range provides this sort of functionality much cheaper nowadays.
    The key feature is high update rate and intensity display - e.g. Agilent infinivision and Tek DPO - I think Rigol have one coming out soon.

  • @salsun7437
    @salsun7437 Před 9 lety

    8:50 - what is that bluish/purplish putty being used, called?

    • @juharika9359
      @juharika9359 Před 9 lety

      Titus Corday en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-Tack

    • @Tadesan
      @Tadesan Před 2 lety

      Sticky-tack
      Lol

  • @mccunecp
    @mccunecp Před 12 lety

    from the looks of this thing there is no memory so I dont think they have it set up were you cant use it just you need the recever I would guess.

  • @mikeselectricstuff
    @mikeselectricstuff  Před 12 lety +1

    No - makes no difference to activation behaviour

  • @computersales
    @computersales Před 11 lety +1

    So this is how the NSA knew what I ate for lunch.

    • @Tadesan
      @Tadesan Před 2 lety

      What if it’s not?

  • @ultort
    @ultort Před 8 lety

    I wonder how they manufacture such tiny springs

    • @bikingmnviking3801
      @bikingmnviking3801 Před 8 lety

      +ultort It's the babies of Keebler Elves before they are old enough to make cookies.

  • @lifepaz2335
    @lifepaz2335 Před 8 lety

    this amazing tegnologie so tiny

  • @Tadesan
    @Tadesan Před 2 lety

    2:20
    Is that a cryo pump??
    Chirp

  • @pkzip31416
    @pkzip31416 Před 11 lety

    el segundo tiene un reed swich o sea que mientra está en la caja esta apagado y al sacarlo de la caja se aleja de un imán y se activa.

  • @zytechnology
    @zytechnology Před 10 lety +1

    Hi ! Would you send me one of thoose in an envelope ? Please let me know how much you need for it. Thanks ! ..

  • @HDXFH
    @HDXFH Před 12 lety +1

    Bloody Technology Eh, Unbelievable!

  • @randacnam7321
    @randacnam7321 Před 12 lety

    The antenna is far too small to be 27Mcy/sec. I would guess that this transmits at about 433Mcy/sec.

  • @antonmaier2263
    @antonmaier2263 Před 2 lety

    impressive

  • @taz069
    @taz069 Před 9 lety

    hope you are washing those very well before touching them....

  • @maxp8892
    @maxp8892 Před 9 měsíci

    dimensions would be great.

  • @gavincurtis
    @gavincurtis Před 11 lety

    @electronicstash the last word in your sentence is where most people get these pill cams. :)

  • @Viraladda24hr
    @Viraladda24hr Před 8 lety

    amazing technology

  • @dumass00072
    @dumass00072 Před 11 lety

    Here's a video titled "PillCam COLON Procedure" /watch?v=uJ5URbxyVxU
    It's not a video of colonoscopy pictures. It's basically showing the procedure concerning the implementation of the pillcam. The video was published on Nov 21, 2012 so you might not have seen it. By the way, I loved your video. Although, because your vocabulary is far more expansive than my own most the information went over my head. However, I plan on changing that :) thanks to you.

  • @1112223333111
    @1112223333111 Před 12 lety

    I seen 27.000 on a part that looks like a crystal.

  • @000000t
    @000000t Před 11 lety

    but maybe it cant receive RF data to save cost

  • @fallingwater
    @fallingwater Před 12 lety

    Extremely interesting! I love it when people pick at mysteries in devices to find out how to make them work, especially if it's to unlock them. If I were running a medical business I might just hire you to reverse-engineer the activation sequence so I could reuse all the pills. :D

  • @Desmaad
    @Desmaad Před 12 lety

    I kinda like the withe one better. The construction is more elegant.

  • @cippanddail
    @cippanddail Před 10 lety

    nothing much complicated but it costs so much that I can't have this procedure done

  • @frtard
    @frtard Před 11 lety

    Not lead, LED ring, the lights

  • @douro20
    @douro20 Před 12 lety

    This isn't even in the "royal league" of oscilloscopes; look at what LeCroy has to offer.

  • @gdog48001
    @gdog48001 Před 12 lety

    You might as well just buy other camera stuff off ebay. These are way more pricey. You can build a little camera setup with a wireless transmitter for around 50 bucks if you do it your self

  • @Jeroenz0r
    @Jeroenz0r Před 11 lety

    433 MHz, it's a frequency you don't need a license for! :-) en.wikipedia(.)org/wiki/LPD433

  • @mustangrt8866
    @mustangrt8866 Před 10 lety

    are these things reusable?

    • @imchris5000
      @imchris5000 Před 9 lety +1

      probably not

    • @truckinjeff
      @truckinjeff Před 9 lety +2

      imchris5000 Would you swallow a pill cam thats been on a couple poop voyages?

    • @mustangrt8866
      @mustangrt8866 Před 9 lety

      you can throw away the pill and use another container for the electronics

    • @imchris5000
      @imchris5000 Před 9 lety +5

      Mustang Rt
      medical stuff like this is never reused

    • @HobkinBoi
      @HobkinBoi Před 9 lety

      Most likely not, but if you really wanted the camera.... just wash your hands extremely well. And I suppose you might be able to use one as a spy cam. Idk how well that would work though

  • @sonick808
    @sonick808 Před 10 lety

    we don't tax at 60%.

  • @p4ide03
    @p4ide03 Před 12 lety

    Good pill cam, your stomach photos to upload?Ha Ha ~ ~ ~

  • @coler154
    @coler154 Před 9 lety

    i think the LEDs are IR LEDs not white ones, that is why you cannot see them.

    • @gdibble
      @gdibble Před 9 lety

      SB 3 has white LEDs, which I observed flashing before the battery ran out (15.5h after reed switch activation)

  • @BH4x0r
    @BH4x0r Před 12 lety

    lol you sound like RODALCO2007

  • @breadsticks98
    @breadsticks98 Před 3 lety

    F**k me. 30 seconds in and the ads start. Never had so many adds before apart from your videos, love them dont you mike