Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata Cap.2 Familia Romana | LLPSI FAMILIA ROMANA
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- The best way to learn Latin is with the book Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata: Familia Romana, which uses a continuous narrative, like a novel, to teach the Latin language through context alone. These recordings introduce the student to good pronunciation; however, one must purchase the book from Amazon in order to learn Latin with them.
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This recording is unique in that it preserves all long and short vowels and syllables, as well as the correct scansion and rhythm of the phrase, exactly as encountered in Ancient Roman poetry. It represents one of the most accurate interpretations of the pronunciation of Classical Latin (roughly 100 B.C. to 200 A.D.).
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I've been listening to the first one non-stop since it was released. I'm glad I have another one to get addicted to
I’m glad you’re enjoying them!
For the past 6 months: My study of Latin has mostly consisted of listening to videos while I clean my cat’s litter boxes (I have 10 cats) - i also listen while driving etc usually get an hour minimum of listening per day. Now that I’m thoroughly in love with latin i’m going to begin studying grammar.
Post sex menses disco lingua Latinum , solum audire non disco grammaticum. Quand collega arena felis (decim felis habeo) labore et audire Tutubum Latinum.. lingua Latinum qupidis, incipio disco grammaticum
Thank you so much, Luke! You are one of the best Latin teachers on CZcams.
¡Muchas gracias, Luke! Eres uno de los mejores profesores de latín en CZcams.
Irene's voice is fantastic! Please redo them all with her. Thanks!
We will!
I was born and rised up in a small ancient district of Rome where we studied Latin since the Middle Schools and, all I wanna say is: Thank you Luke!
It warms my heart to see how much you love my city, my people and my ancestors (even If I'm half Sardinian). Keep up this amazing work, I hope that more people will discover the beauty of the Latin language thanks to you!
Keep our ancestral language , Fraterii Latini .From the other side of the world , I proclaim that we must hold unto our heritage .
Wow, using your 7-part rereading guide, I'm amazed how much I progressed with listening and reading comprehension, pronunciation, inner reading voice, etc. The first time around, I was following the text and listening and was lost in the myriad word endings (even with having memorised them). By the end, I was reading silently with the audio off on pace with the video, my inner voice was hitting all the pronunciations, and all the visualisations were bringing me the meanings of each phrase. Truly an amazing feeling, like my brain was expanding by the moment. I'm hooked!
I've been reading LLPSI to learn how to read Cicero and Seneca in the original Latin. These readings help to "hear" the Latin as I read it. It really makes the Philippics jump off of the page. "Quid est in Antonio praeter libidinem, crudelitatem, petulantiam, audaciam?"
I barely understand any Latine and even I can tell how much he is dissing Marky Mark with that line .
"In familiā Iuliī sunt multī servī, paucī līberī."
And so the stage was set for the slave rebellion...
Spartacus sum!
I don’t think I’ve ever heard a woman in movies speak Latin. It gives it a whole different flavor.
Agreed! Irene happens to have a beautiful voice so I am really glad she’s doing these with me.
Thank you very much.
Salve form Poland! I'm just beginning my adventure with Lingua Latina, and I am tremendously thankful to you for recording these clips, they are bringing the whole thing to life!
Thanks, Florian!
Irene's voice is insanely beautiful
Love these updates. :) Thank you for continually offering more!
Yes, chapter two! I enjoy this so much!
Salve ex Fōrmōsā! Grātiās tibi agō pro hōc vidēo! Lentē discō linguam Latīnam. ❤
Optimē facis
These new recordings sound so good, its great to go through again and focus in more on the details of pronunciation.
This is a huge help! Thanks so much! The new versions are great!
Damn thank you for this. I’ve been working my way through Familia Romana and the sound of a language is so key to stickiness for me. Really helps. (I’m a musician and, as I like to say, “aurally fixated” 😂) Native English, fluent in French and currently studying Latin for insight into both languages. Thank you again. 🙏
I appreciate your work so much! This here is the best way yo refresh my Latin since university studies. ❤
Amazing video, as always. Cheers
Fifteen years ago I finished this book and was about a quarter of the way through the second one when I fell away from it. This has reignited my desire to start again and continue. Thank you so much!
This is great, thank you!!
This is so unbelievably helpful for me. I love it ❤️
Very happy to hear it
Thanks for this. I am enjoying it!
Thanks for all these videos. They are helping me a lot to learn properly the language of my ancestors. In fact, as a romance language speaker, it's very easy for me actually. I understand almost everything without making any effort lol. Regards from Gades.
Olá amigo.
Encontrei o seu canal a algumas semanas e escuto como complemento depois do estudo do livro. Isso pra aprender como se pronucia o Latim na linguagem construída que ao meu ver é a mais bonita.
Quero conseguir aprender a língua latina até o fim de 2023. Não que consiga ser fluente até lá mas aprender pra mim já é uma conquista por si só.
Abraços do Brasil 🇧🇷
You are incredible.
What a lovely Italian female voice! 😍
Bonum video! Gratias! 😎😎😎😎
Thank you!
Just finished the second cap. Thank you again for this. Today, you earned a subscription.
Great work! Thanks very much.
Until now I've thought that latin was a powerful sounding language. But thank to you now I know that it also has a beautiful melody and rythm which makes it not so distinct from modern day romance languages (especially italian).
Wow you sound perfect.
I remember your older videos from 2017 or so, and you'd still have some pronounciation inconsistencies like some unsure vowels and some double consonants added where they weren't written etc.
It's always been good but this ... this is glorious!
Since you've become so good, can you read some classics for us? I love hearing long and short vowels work in metre, and there's so much poetry to discover so we don't have a lot of time!
As a personal request (I know it isn't poetry but I NEED to hear it lol) how about the first page (or just the first half of it) of the De Bello Gallico?
Thanks very much! I’ve recorded tons for my Patreon supporters, and here you can download my standalone audiobook of the Gallic Wars luke-ranieri.myshopify.com/collections/frontpage/products/caesar-de-bello-gallico-liber-i-bellum-helvetium-gallic-wars-book-1-war-with-the-helvetii-audiobook-in-latin
@@ScorpioMartianus Cool!
Jez the part I wanted to hear is in the free sample lol, I guess I'll have to buy it anyways to avoid feeling like a little pirate.
Well crisp!
Muito bonita língua latina ❤
Irene doesn't retract the S, right? Her voice is indeed very lovely. Thanks for this to both of you.
She doesn’t normally do the retracted S, but I feel either retracted or unretracted is fine for reconstructions. Thanks
EXCEPȚIONAL!
MY NAME IS DELIA TOO, I FEEL IMPORTANT
Excelente
Gratias tibi ago, Scorpio!
These are the best readings of any videos I've heard. Too often, in other vids, the readings are overly affected and theatrical or in some-not Scorpio Martianus- simply badly pronounced.
That’s very kind. We do our best
after learning italian, french, spanish and being native in russian learning latin is really easy, almeno leggere
Gratias tibi ago. semper audio^^ cras audire debeo^^ haha😂
Voces tuae amoenae audiendi sunt, id est mirabilissum
Postulo vobis, etiam facite de capitulis ceteris
Omnia faciēmus capitula.
GRATIAS LUCIVS
Sophōs! ❤
Irene's Long /a:/ in ablative is perfect! I can clearly hear the length. However, I am a little bit puzzled by the /e:/. It sounds very open sometimes. Shouldn't it be closed?
No indeed czcams.com/video/eH8E5RKq31I/video.html
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Gratias tibi
7:05 Lingua Latina-ception
Hi, I have a question, if you don't mind. In Headlines and on maps, when they are using capital letters, they mostly use the V instead of U.
e.g.
LingVa latina
EVropa
ImperiVum RomanVm
is there a reason for this? Do I have to use it the same way in headlines?
It’s imitative of ancient Roman inscriptions on marble. It’s a fun format but not necessary
Should you master a chapter before moving on to the next, or can you go back?
Hey, Luke, are you gonna do a video on Latin or Old Greek taboo words?
I’ve already done that for Patreon supporters
@@ScorpioMartianus Ok. I'll try saving money for patreon
Hello. I have just started FR and am a virtual beginner with Latin. I hope this doesn't sound like a stupid question, but the sentence 'Mārcus filius Iūliī est.' is confusing me; does this say Marcus is the son of Iulia?? Many thanks. Ronan
Of Julius
@@ScorpioMartianus thank you!
Thanks for this lovely video. Just one question.
Why is it "quae...?" And not "quis...?" For both genders?
You use quae if you know the gender of the person is feminine.
Thanks for your reply, very kind!
Do we always read the „v” like an „u”? Or perhaps there are situations when we read "v" as an "u" and other situations when we read "v" as a "v"?
I believe this will help: czcams.com/video/hovf-UK-toQ/video.htmlsi=NMuEWIKljD39g3Ci
5:24 Is the long ā in māgnīne an error or does the -ne make it long? I'm looking at the inflection table of magnus and I don't see any long a's.
Also, just to confirm if I'm hearing it right - adding the -ne adds another syllable to the word, and we have to take it into account when finding the stress of the word, correct? It's magníne, not mágnine.
It is a typographical error. There about three macron errors in the entire book; it’s quite impressive.
You are right, with some caveats: czcams.com/video/IcK735zcmag/video.htmlsi=HJYYt7QqoN-aJAOI
@@ScorpioMartianus Thanks for this info; it has niggled me for a little while, and you comment has resolved it for me…I can now move on😂! Would it be possible for you to say where the similar typos are?
Many thanks for your exceptional support resource for the Lingua Latina series. I have just discovered your channel and will find it very helpful as I progress through the series.
Luke, I have a question about the accent position of words ending with "-que". Do the common rules also apply to these words? For example, in this chapter (Cap. II), line 21, we have:
Mārcus, Quīntus Iūliaque sunt trēs līberī. Līberī sunt fīliī fīliaeque.
In the word "fīliaeque", the syllable "ae" is long, so the stressed accent goes on it. And so was it in the video. Nothing wrong here.
For the word "Iūliaque", however, I think it has 4 syllables: iū - li - a - que. Since "a" is short, the stressed accent should go to the antepenult "li". Therefore, the word should be read as "Iūlíaque", which sounds really strange to me. In this video, at 02:00, I notice that you indeed put the accent on the first syllable "iū".
Are you treating "lia" as a single short syllable here ("i" being a consonant /j/ )? In this way, "iū" becomes the stressed antepenult. But in my understanding, "lia" usually contains 2 syllables. For example, it's "família", not "fámilia". Or, is there any special rules for such words?
I hope you could help me clarify this confusion. Thanks, Luke! Also thanks for creating these precious videos for Latin lovers!
Hi there! A fabulous question. I answer it in this video: czcams.com/video/IcK735zcmag/video.htmlsi=2N2_WMp65EHx7XBV
If you still have questions, leave a comment on that video. Valē! 👋
Luca numerus unum es!!!! grazie!!
Laetus sum novās pelliculās LLPSI vidēre. Sed interrogātum tibi habeo: suntne antiquae pelliculae LLPSI? (capitulum prīmum, secundum et colloquium prīmum nunc, certe)
Sunt! Satis est quaerere apud indicem hujus canālis.
what is the name of the book？
It’s in the description
Hoc est pulchrum. Linguam Latīnam laetē audiō.
La pronuncia di Syra mi ha sconfitto.
I had no idea the Romans even used the "Greek" Y differently from an I.
Infatti, hanno importato la lettera dal greco
@@ScorpioMartianus did the average roman pronounce the letter as /y/ or was this more of an academic thing?
@@ScorpioMartianus Hanno importato anche Z.
@@marinaaaa2735 It depends on whether they knew Greek. Pretty much all educated romans were fluent in Greek from a young age, and so they would have pronounced it, yes. Many lower class romans would have also known Greek since it was the dominant language of the entire eastern mediterranean. That said, someone who wasn't educated, lived in a Latin speaking area and didn't do business with Greek speakers probably either pronounced it as /u/ or as /i/. The earliest loans from Greek into Latin tend to surface with /u/ in romance, while later loans tend to have /i/. This is complicated by the fact that some dialects of Greek still pronounced υ as /u/ until quite late.
How can I understand it without any explanation?
Read it carefully. It is self-explanatory. Go in order with all the videos of the LLPSI playlist
Hello, why the sentence "Sparta oppidum graecum est" is read like "Sparta oppidum graecum'st"? I can't find any rule about that. Forgive my ignorance
See my video for Patreon about synaloephe, in the Pronunciation series, link in description
Ciao! Sono italiana (vivo a Roma) e ho iniziato da poco a studiare il latino. Mi ha colpito questa parte del testo: "Capitulum primum, secundum, tertium, cetera" (più avanti c'è un altro esempio simile con "cetera"). Immaginavo che in latino "eccetera" si dicesse "et cetera", non "cetera". Che significa letteralmente "cetera"? C'è stato un mutamento linguistico nel corso del tempo in latino, per cui nel latino classico "eccetera" si diceva "cetera" e successivamente si è passati a "et cetera"?
Ciao. Cētera sono le altre cose. Nota che et si mette tra tutte le parole, o nessune
@@ScorpioMartianus Ti ringrazio! Ma la parola italiana "eccetera" ("etcetera" in inglese) deriva dal latino "et cetera", giusto? Non so scrivere gli accenti lunghi e brevi con il cellulare, purtroppo ☺️
Ricorda di leggere correttamente ae
@@claudia-zw5wv Parli con me, immagino. Ti ringrazio per il suggerimento, ma cosa c'entra?
@@desifromitaly2205 te lo dico perché nel video utilizzano un latino diverso da quello che si impara nelle scuole, e almeno le prof che ho avuto e quella attuale ci tenevano molto alla pronuncia corretta di ae
A bit off topic, but I find it interesting that in Latin (so far as I have observed), the genitive singular is seemingly identical to the nominative plural (feminae=women/of the woman, for example) just like in English (I would personally consider our English possessive a form of weak genitive, but would love to hear any facts or arguments to the contrary). I wonder if that's just a coincidence or if it's a sort of genetic pattern in Indo-European. Also, question for Luke: I noticed that you always pronounce "y" as it's corresponding phoneme (the rounded front vowel [y]), despite the fact that Latin does not have that phoneme natively; is there a reason for that & is it acceptable if we stick to Latin's native phonemic inventory & pronounce it the same as "u" instead? Thank you for your work, the products of which I believe to be well worth the effort!
You probably can, but the [u] sound for y only existed in an archaic dialect of Latin c. 6th century BC, not Classical Latin, which borrowed the [y] sound from Attic Greek.
Okay. And just out of curiosity, what is your evidence for that? I would’ve thought it more logical to assume their phonemic inventory was left unchanged, considering that’s the only case of phoneme borrowing I’ve heard of, in Latin or linguistics in general. So what makes you say that?
@@matthewheald8964
Luke discussed how y was used in Latin and Greek on Polymathy, his other channel.
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Vielen Dank für das Video! Ich hätte eine Frage, deren Antwort ich leider nirgendwo finde..... Warum heißt es "Quae est mater Mārcī" bzw "Quae est Iūlia" und nicht "Quis est..."? Genauso "Qui sunt filiī Iūliī" anstatt "quis sunt"......Als Fragewort "wer?" finde ich im Internet für m./f./n. nur unverändert "quis". Für "Quae" und "Qui" wiederum finde ich nur die Übersetzung "welche/welches" (im Sinne von qui/quae/quod). Ich wäre sehr dankbar für eine Antwort, ansonsten bleibe ich hier im 2. Kapitel hängen und komme nicht weiter 😅😅
Quae is used when you know the gender of the person you are addressing is female. If you don’t know, such as a person knocking on a door, quis is appropriate. Quis is also used if you know the person is male.
@@ScorpioMartianus Vielen Dank für die Erklärung! Danke schön 😊
Words/endings I'm struggling to understand:
The ending "-ōrum"/ "-ārum"
"Ceteri" and it's other forms
"Ecce"
"Tuōrum"
the órum and árum endings indicate plural genitive. a plural "of the" so to speak
So in the sentence "Iúlius dominus servórum est" in english would be "Julius is the master of the servants" because:
Iúlius -> Julius
dominus -> master
servórum -> of the servants
est -> is
árum is the feminine form, while órum is either masculine or neutral depending on the word.
Why is it "Cuius ancilla est Syra?" and not "cuia"?
Cujus is the genitive singular for all genders.
There exists an innovative adjective cujus cuja cujum but it’s exceedingly rare and often considered non-standard Latin
Hello Luke my husband's last name is Robbins from the family Robb his family motto is Vivit post funera Virtus. They served in Roman army (from Scotland).
some words sounds exactly like in portuguese, which's not a surprise obviously lol
Cum ista voce feminae Etiam amoenisor
Cum hac voce feminae Etiam melior est res
Haec pronuntiatio est pulchra
Nietzsche wrote "Die Römer waren ja die Starken und Vornehmen, wie sie stärker und vornehmer bisher auf Erden nie dagewesen, selbst niemals geträumt worden sind" i.e. "The Romans were the strong and noble, a stronger and nobler people there has been on earth, never even has been dreamt". It would be interesting if someone could translate that to Latin. Can anyone?
Rōmānī fortēs et nōbilēs erant; gēns fortior et nōbilior numquam vīsa est.
Does the female speaker go back and forth between classical and ecclesiastical pronunciation? I’d swear I’m hearing a V sound when expecting the W sound? Anyone else hear it or am I misunderstanding? I’m a beginner.
She’s actually doing the same sound I am doing, a very particular realization of the /w/ phoneme which is closer to [ɰ], a compressed bilabial approximate. We have clear testimony that the Latin V sound was undergoing this change during the Classical Period, thus we enjoy this but of flavor in our pronunciation. It’s not necessary of course. Using [w] is perfectly correct for many if not most speakers of Classical Latin.
@@ScorpioMartianus Thanks.
@@ScorpioMartianus Would this compressed bilabial approximate sound be similar to the Spanish B?
@@davidross2004Yes. They are basically the same sound. I usually promounce Latin more like European Spanish.
@@Brandon55638 Same. I just pay attention to vowel length.
Didicī alia vocābula cum macronīs: fēmina, māter, fīlia (et fīlius scilicet), līberī (plurālis tantumne?), cēterī (maximī momentī!), antīquus, prīmus, pāgina. Atque dēsinentiās didicī novās: -ī (id est Genetīvus singulāris) et -ōrum/-ārum. Scribere rectē volō, sed multum est ad hoc discendum mihi! 😅
Le fait que dans la scansion des hexamètres latins le son AE compte pour une brève et non une longue , indique que ae se prononçait é.
Une des lois fondamentales qui expique la simplification du langage est la
LOI DU MOINDRE EFFORT.
prononcer é au lieu de ae est dû à cette loi.
Je suis étonné que les latinistes modernes qui disent parler le latin classique " reconstitué" n' aient pas fait la même réflection !
Presque tout ce que tu as dit est faux. AE en latin est une diphtongue /ae/ et se prononce longue. En latin classique, AE se prononce [ae̯]. Ce que tu as dit au sujet de la « loi du moindre effort » est incorrect. Tu as beaucoup à apprendre sur la linguistique, ainsi que sur la langue latine, avant de critiquer publiquement des personnes qui pourraient en savoir beaucoup plus que tu. Tu feras mieux d'être humble.
Yeeeeee
SOPRA TERA BRITANORUM VOLTAT AQUILA LEGIORUM
Por la pronunciación pensé que eran habla hispanas, no hablainglesas.
Somos un estadounidense y una italiana.
Doesn't this chapter and others in this book rely heavily on people's knowledge of Latin-based words in their own languages or in foreign languages that they know? The meanings of "servus" and "dominus" are not at all clear per se, but English-speakers can figure them out through "servant" and "dominate" / "dominant" / "dominion". The meaning of "ancilla" can be partially figured out through "ancillary", but still the specific meaning "female slave girl" is hardly obvious. And what is one to make of a sentence like "Marcus, Quintus Iuliaque sunt tres liberi"? (The fact that "- que" means "and" , and that "liberi" basically means "non-slaves" is not obvious.) Apart from this issue, I find this whole approach very tedious - stating every possible connection between the members of the household. It's much easier to have a bilingual vocabulary, and shorter, less tedious texts with this vocabulary, and some questions and exercises relating to the text.
sorry, but unfortunately the pronunciation is incorrect, for example "ae" you read "e" (sorry for any grammatical errors)
No Claudia, in questo video stiamo usando la pronuncia classica del latino, del periodo classico 100 aC - 200 dC. Stai descrivendo la pronuncia ecclesiastica, non pertiene all’antichità.
@@ScorpioMartianus ah va bene, non lo sapevo, grazie per l'informazione ✨