Good News & Bad News - X-Wing Huge Ships Effectively Cancelled, Ministravaganza Coming In September!
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- AMG released a large article covering Ministravaganza in September! Looks like X-Wing and Armada won't be getting any coverage though!
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The answer to the Epic question just reinforces my decision to not support AMG after what they did with X-Wing. It is clear that Shatterpoint is their baby and the everything else is just not as important. Really sad
Yeah. AMG have effectively killed the game for me.
Which is sad because honestly, why does Shatterpoint even exist? It seems redundant when Legion already existed.
@@RedXlV My belief is that Shatterpoint was in development before the merge and since they sunk some much into it, they had to release it. What is really sad is they could have just left X-Wing alone but decided to pump resources into 2.5 instead of new content. Maybe that was the plan all along was to kill the games so they don't have to make or create new models for X-Wing and Armada
@@OpinionatedFanboy That still seems odd, because why not just merge Shatterpoint into Legion instead of releasing it as a new game? (Plus, Shatterpoint was already going to compete with Legion, so even back when FFG had Legion, why was AMG developing a competing game when they're both part of Asmodee?)
@@RedXlV Well, with MCP all you have to do is port over the rules and update some cards and boom you have a new game. Both Shatterpoint and Legion should be able to live side by side as long as both are supported. But we know which one AMG will favor.
They already killed X-Wing for a lot of people with their 2.5 garbage. Asmodee made a huge mistake when they took our favorite games away from FFG.
I had a deep love for X-Wing all the way back in 1.0. And while I wasn't sold on 2.0, I ended up liking it even more. Moving the game to AMG and the subsequent 2.5 rules killed it for me.
Exactly the same for me. I thought 2.0 was an improved game in many ways. But AMG proved immediately that they didn't care about fans as much as they cared about control of the game. Every step of the way they have alienated fans in order to control an ever-diminishing player base.
AMG has lied about Armada in so many ways. They don’t care for the game and I think they want it to die. X-Wing and Armada are not in good shape right now
If they weren't going to do anything other than the pathetically low effort PnP Rapid Reinforcements packs (couldn't even be bothered to make proper cards), then they shouldn't have bought the property and let someone else have it who would actually do something with it.
It's like companies that license foreign television series and movies only to do absolutely nothing with the license but sit on it - simply so nobody else can have it.
Honestly it might as well be an all out conspiracy to push that ancient musty artifact that is the 90s sprue over a ready to play, high fidelity (not to mention pre-painted in the cases of Armada, X-Wing, or even the Street Fighter miniatures game) gold standard of what miniature gaming can and should be in the modern age of gaming. I mean, even Kickstarter campaigns have gotten the memo...
It really does seem like they planned to slowly starve the game and continuously alienate the fan base until the games were a complete write-off.
@@actualwafflesenjoyeri dont mind it not having new products. But its soo hard to find existing products as well. I am trying to buy more republic and CIS stuff but its almost impossible to find them
Why don't they stream Armada?
Because they probably don't know how to play it.
We used to have 20+ people showing up for X-Wing games night. After 2.0, it dropped to 8-10. After AMG, it dropped to 2-4. The game is dead. What is worse is that people don't realize the scheme and keep buying new products like Shatterpoint like crazy, which literally incentivizes them to leave old games behind.
It enables it indeed, happenning in many markets atm.
Brainless consumerism.
Oooo, a piece of candy….
The price of the core box for shattered point it crazy. No way am I buying into a new game for that price
We had a 20+ group as well at my local game store. When 2nd edition dropped it went down to four. Now it's dead.
I hope they don't kill the ship games. They are great games and deserve to stay around. I also think it is pretty crazy that they have not at least released print and play non tournament legal rules for the huge ships. It would be super easy for them and cost them next to nothing. Just a little development time.
I’d rather they kill them than beat a corpse. A dead game is a game where folks are more open to homebrew additions
They only care about Shatterpoint. That's their baby.
they already have
I completely agree with your thoughts about huge ships, it is unacceptable. They should at least release something for casual 2.5 players
The fact that they can't even spit-ball a workable idea for the fan base reveals that AMG wants total control of the game more than they want happy fans of the game.
We play mostly epic here, so stiking to 2.0, 2.5 is useless.
I bought the shaterpoint core set but if AMG stops supporting X-wing and Armada I'm done with Shaterpoint and AMG. I left D&D and magic the gathering because I have no respect for Wotc. I'm more then willing to wait an other year or 2 for new x-wing or armada content, I get that developing new product for 5 games at one time is not easy and takes lots of time, but the communication needs to be WAY better. At least confirm you are still doing reprints for armada or not. I just bought 49 ships last month I love the game but starting to regret spending my money on it .
I bought the shadow collective starter set…it is now a trophy that sits next to the trident class assault ship & Tantive IV trophy’s…no product support EVER and my gauntlet(large ships vs tournament chase 2.5) is also useless.
Thanks AMG! 👍
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This is reinforces my belief amg are hobbiests who generally like "hero shooters" rather than war games. Im a little surprised Legion hasnt changed drastically, but then again, it is probably a huge miney maker and they dont want to piss people off. They seemnikay pissing off X-Wing and Armada players since it doesn't fit into their philosophy of epic hero battles.
I think that they’re ok with Legion because it allows for more hobbyist stuff. Xwing goes against their philosophy of hobbyist first game second.
Additionally, Legion requires a lot of models which means more sales. So they’re incentivized to keep it if they can
This is a perfect example of why I haven’t played amg’s x-wing more than a couple of games. I want to be able to play the full game of x-wing which includes ALL of the products made for the game like my epic ships! I completely agree Crabbok, it’s totally unacceptable.
They do have points for huge ships. You just cant play it in the garbage "2.5" rule set.
For many of us, AMG killed X-wing with that rule set. I sill prefer playing 2E.. the proper rules for the game.
I'm having more fun with 1st edition than 2nd right now. I may never even fool with 2.5.
@@electricfootballhero1349 if you wanna fly your ships, play with those who play 2.5…otherwise, it’s a poop show 😣 if I knew that this was going to happen I would’ve never invested in this game… said that about 40k as well, it’s always selling another piece of candy to these ignorant devs in charge… I’ve seen better homebrews in the 80s and 90s than what these developers have done in the past 20 months. Have I ever mentioned ‘Silent Death’ from the 90’s…tweak it, it’s already out there…
Play 2.5 get your flying in, develop a homebrew with your buds. Waiting for AMG is probably just as much of a waste of time as waiting for aliens to openly start abducting us 😂 real aliens, not the humans that are going to act like ‘real’ aliens, to make us believe that they’re real aliens!!!
This requires them to actually care, and they don’t. Played a game of AMG xwing once… said no thanks. My group moved to HotAC only and we just play our old toys with new homebrew additions if needed.
I don't think X-Wing is in as bad a spot as Armada. The new faction starter kits, OP kits and reprints are more than what Armada has. If they keep the kits coming the game may do ok. I don't think we'll see anything new for a long time though. Granted, neither of us follow the 2.5 scene so I don't have a grasp on how 2.5 is doing for events.
😂 we need an Xwing Epic BOOK! As far as any game going to to AMG, homebrew it! Im sure there are fun ways to use your ‘stock’ instead of the ‘market’ obfuscating actual ‘potential’.
Think about that for a second, really think about it 🧐
Its a shame that games were taken away from FFG and given to people that didn't and don't want to work on it. Still don't want to play X.Wing: crisis protocol. And their rules forum? What a joke, locking threads after one reply.
If they get rid of huge ships, I would be sad. I just needed one of them to complete my collection and would love play them in casual play. The huge ships definitely leave a grand impression seeing them in play.
They were the single best factor of cinematic and custom play
AMG already killed xwing when then split the community with their worst rules.
People who recognized the game was worst walked away, people who were ready to keep playing because xwing is the one game they play stayed. Around here it’s dead, I feel like it’s on life support elsewhere.
Perfectly said
The bit that killed xwing for me was the newest ships. Republic headhunters with a printed ability to be able to equip cannons, missiles or torps but not enough points to equip any of those. It's made those ships absolutely useless.
@@MultiShaun1989those are ALSO glorified trophies sitting near the trident class assault ship & Tantive IV…product support virtually ENDED the day AMG acquired Xwing.
Thank you for the update! So sad to hear about XWing and Armada
As someone who is new to X-Wing and have bought over 20 2.0 ships, I'm disappointed if HUGE EPIC ships don't get released. I can't purchase the imperial epic ships without spending 300+ dollars each. That is too much... I need them to release the Epic Ships. Also, Endor?
I still want my fully to Scale - Death Star II for Star Wars Armada.
Amg... What a crap of a games company. Not buying a single product ever... Sad.
Armada is like the warhammer fantasy battles of ffg games. I love it, but it also has a lot of similar things that make it a harder product to sell to a general audience of morons. Atleast they don’t completely discontinue it and keep those little event expansions coming out each year instead of just saying the games dead go play something else/our new game
They don't have to discontinue it. They just have to let it languish until the fans all disappear. That appears to be the business plan...
@@danepatterson8107 tru
Yeah, the way AMG is treating X-Wing and Armada makes me a little nervous for the other games. After migrating to Legion and partly to X-Wing from 40k, I'm just a little wary of invalidating units. I hope that it's not a sign of things to come.
On a more positive note, the few games of Spec Ops that I played were really fun, and I'll likely play it more. I'm a big fan of the killteam format, so Spec Ops is almost a no brainer for me.
It IS a sign of things to come. Get out of this company's way. You've seen what GW does. AMG apparently aspires to be the next GW by having an abusive relationship with its customers who are codependent enablers of AMG's awful behavior.
Having multiple copies of the order cards in Shatterpoint had another advantage. They’re the ones that are randomly drawn and need to be unrecognizable when they’re face down.
Having at least a second copy of each card meant that if you damage the one you use, you got a backup. Having 4 backups is a little much… but I kind of wish they still put 2 copies in the box
My bigger question is why does shatterpoint need to even be a game? I don’t want to get into the mechanics of it but I’ve watched 3 battle reports, no one dies in the game, u just push everyone around for auto damage but it’s ok because everyone will just use their heal abilities, and it’s mostly just about shifting pieces around to get zone/objective points. Waw really thrilling and captures the mood of Star Wars perfectly. Is it because of marvel crisis’ protocol (money) and that’s literally it? They literally did a crappy version of the same game concept in spec ops for legion, you have the same exact models/minis, why in the name of god could they not just give you the rules for shatterpoint in legion. Instead they charge you twice the amount for a core box for an “entirely different game” with a quarter of the models (buts it’s ok because the models are f’ing massive now!) and some terrain to “justify the price”"
I don’t have interest in spec ops either but my point is they could have just designed and refined this game mode, maybe given it a separate core box with rules, and I feel like shatterpoint would be an unjustifiable product.
Because amg sucks. They got handed games they didn't understand or care about and proceeded to drive them into the into the ground.
Legion changing scale from the Imoerial Assault models told me enough. Shatterpoint changing scale again sealed it.
FFG needs the games back, and amg needs to have nothing to do with any game ever again.
meh its fine. we gave up on xwing 2.5. using different point scales weve home brewed "TIE Fighter v1.0": bring any pilot from any version and we'll make it work. we now have quickbuild cards that we'll never need to update again, and AMG cant mess it up.
AMG no longer cares about X-Wing and Armada. Só there is little to nothing they make that I'm interested in purchasing. Luckily I own most ships from both games, and I can find and print the missing ones.
To bad ffg is out of the games, they at least brought us reprints
I think drastic game changes need to be applied to XWing and Armada in order to extend their lives. I’m thinking more of adding rather than changing. For example add invasion elements to Armada. A whole new set of minis which can include AT-ATs etc. Imagine a land map next to the space map side by side. Bombardment?
Tbh invasions would work well, however they should be more simple, they should play it similar to risk in how the dice works, not a ground battle single, but a small campaign map, with AA guns, and shield generators, airbases, etc, the attacker can take them from the defender or destroy them from space, with the end goal of the attacker to either win the space battle and cut off the wave from reinforcements with a complete victory, or the land forces failing to make a beach head, would be a really fun narrative perspective with unique upgrades ships to transport units that have special effects on the map, or sending down a downed named commander to take control of land forces from an escape pod or something similar
That sounds awesome
Thanks for the update on all this 👍
I think the "we are focusing on the core game" is the same as saying "big ships will come later". As big ships are not part of the core game they are more narrative models. I agree they could put something out that says here are rules for the big ships, even if they are just generic rules l, with the caveat that they aren't tournament legal.
Ultimately all of this boils down to resources. They just don't have enough resources to support all facets of all of these games, so they have to make some hard choices and leave some things out for now.
Did you forget the trident class tutorial I think 2021…solo game…it hides, was kinda cool ‘something’ Epic inspired…
They needed to do their homework instead of posting videos on how happy they were to acquire Xwing and how to paint my ship or make a diorama out of my useless crud, I mean, ships…they knew the whole time it was a fire sale and they NEVER had a clue as to WHAT 2.0 was
Will said it himself in 2/21-22 video, he hadnt played Xwing since 1.0 😂
Hey Will Shtick…it shows, it really really does! 👍
Sad news about huge ships
It goes against the grain, but shatterpoint is just a meh area control game. There's tons of area control games out there (Plus MCP with jedi... really?). Armada and x-wing fill the space between simple and complex war games perfectly, and with incredible models. what a shame that they're letting this go. Just a little marketing would go a long way to invigorate these games. Disney hasn't completely ruined Star Wars so there's still a massive potential market.
What happened to the x-wing Endor?
Here’s my 2 cents worth. If you were to make a time line of all the Star Wars titles AMG took over from FF…and track the release of their respective products and then do the same with shatter point….it will definitely show where the bulk of their time, effort, resources and passion has been allocated to and it’s not any of the titles they took over. I’m beginning to think AMG is some what contractually obligated to “support” Legion, Armada and X Wing (using the definition of support loosely). I think they’ve put minimal effort into each of the FF titles they were handed and will milk what they can from each title with minimal effort. I feel like it’s a dead game now which is beyond sad.
Their announcement about epic ships…is maddening. The fact that there is epic ship products still for sale. Despicable.
I personally would not and will not invest anything should they decide to release a new ship game.
This is why I stayed with version 1 x wing. These Star Wars games are heading down the drain and it’s only a matter of time for legion.
I’m bummed about huge ships.
Would be nice if they could increase their team size to address what seem to be some dev / production issues but maybe the money isn’t there.
What’s everyone’s thoughts on the popularity of shatterpoint? I don’t think it took off around where I am
It’s pretty big in the Pacific Northwest. My store doesn’t stock legion stuff because it doesn’t sell but man shatterpoint stuff just flys off the shelves.
All I ask for is a Lucrehulk.
like i keep saying, AMG are in over their heads. they have one game and a copy/paste version. they can't even build. a website 12 year olds build in their computer class.
Why doesn't AMG just sell or trade off X-Wing to a company that cares vs killing the game slowly?!
Just sayin
At this point I feel that Star Wars tabletop miniature game is all but dead from atomic mass games
I think you're wrong man. I think they're deliberately leaving xwing and armada players in the dark because they're sitting on a partial warehouse of the stuff and they don't want to eat the loss
I don’t understand, why isn't the Huge conversion kit useful for even casual play?
Because there’s no points for it anymore. You’d have to guess how to point cost it. Or play solely 2.0 (ffg rules) if you have the old point docs
@@timunderbakke8756don’t forget, any ship BEFORE the gauntlet is still able to be used by FFG points with epic book… AMG never did any points for the Gauntlet, or the rogue class, etc and don’t forget to mention how…
AMG never released any information about the cards from the three faction super boxes, ie;rebel Phoenix squadron, Vader in the defender, scum fugitives, all designed by FFG(epic cards were in those boxes) and inherited by AMG…still SELLING us the stuff without a heads up to the shinanigans to come.
By the way, what was ‘structure’ going to be?(if you remember correctly, there were supposed to be rules in one of the updates for ‘structure’ rules for epic… AMG does not even have a clue)
I love Spec-Ops, it's so much fun and some of the changes to things like suppression is great. I'm going for a Shadow Collective Spec-Ops team!
I sold off all my x-wing about a month ago - going through a big move in the future, and I haven't played it. Sadly I've stopped playing Legion and MCP I only every bought the core set and played a couple of times. Shatterpoint looks interesting, but I just find it a bit too much. I'm keeping imperial assault - I still love that game. Working on my own game (and taking lessons from all the games I like).
As to Armada, I think the game system is decent and it could be a great game system for maybe another setting/IP, but I'm not sure anyone is willing to license it out from AMG.
I think I'm feeling a bit of franchise fatigue - I really want my create my own thing, and I'd love to see some smaller companies and IP's get a chance to shine.
What about more stock for armada? My LHS can’t find anything. I have to scour the country for many expansions.
Armada, X-Wing, Imperial Assault... Getting rid of the Star Wars licensed games was FFGs biggest mistake in a long time...
It's so weird in general how the licence is handled. They have Armada and X-Wing and Imperial Assault, three miniature games and then.. they got rid of Imperial Assault for Legion, which I kinda understand because it was more of a board game but then they introduce Shatter Point. Armada and X-Wing are laying in the dust in the meantime, while we have tons of new ships incoming in media and still an expanded universe to draw from. Then there was the card game and they introduced a new card game with dice, then they made a card game without dice - a TCG and a little while ago another card game was announced?
I know licencing has issues, different distributors and publishers and stuff but still - wouldn't it be more reasonable to have a smaller amount of core games to cultivate? Instead the games change the gardener and the new one acts as weird as the last one.
FFG didn't have a choice in the matter. Assmodee took the games away from them.
I thought they had said previously that core X-wing was their focus but they will get to Epic eventually. This doesn't sound that far off to the same thing. I wouldn't say it's dead yet but it has been awhile and still nothing? Seems like they don't want to since epic wasn't that big anyway.
But I agree with Crabbok it shouldn't be that hard to do a bare minimum of giving points even if its not perfect.
I am seeing an Imperial Raider Corvette on pre order next month ?? Any truth the that??
That came out years ago
Oh man. Too bad for all the ships out there in the game stores. Gonna get dusty.
I was so sure that Legion Spec-Ops were a beta test for Shatterpoint.
Epic wasn’t a big product mover even when it was supported. X Wing is unfortunately in a spot where even standard is dying. It is a hard product for shops to stock and sell. Old players have what they want and new players aren’t showing up much. Attendance is low for events. It has a passionate player base, but that doesn’t move product. They will keep supporting standard for a while, but i honestly think the game is riding into the sunset. I’ll ride the horse to the end but it Makes me sad. It happens to a lot of games.
I concur, however my group has already moved away to HotAC using the 2.0 model
They killed X-Wing when they gutted the the points system and changed the rules in massive ways without an actual plan to properly support it.
If they want the old players to buy stuff they need to release more new ships instead of just reprints.
They killed their own game with version 2 , they had lightning in a bottle and let it out. It’s been dying since.
@@RedXlVor at minimum, new paint schemes with new pilots
Xwing and armada where the goat
i'm interested in legion, i played for a bit at launch but after amy upstairs neighbor had a pipe burst water destroyed my cards and the people the insurance company hired to clean up the mess ended up tossing most of my legion stuff due to it being wet... i took another look at legion recently and it seems pretty different from what i remember, coupled with almost no one playing locally i think i'll wait for them to eventually reboot legion with a new starter and see if i can get a friend or 2 to jump in with me.
Legion and Armada are grossly overpriced. X-Wing is a far better value, even if the manufacturer is purposefully trying to sabotage and discontinue the line.
Armada on sprues would kill the game. I would be so angry if they started doing that.
How would new Armada Product be better than no new product?
@Crabbok If they are going to do it, they should do it right and not push everyone already in the game out of it by making it a completely different product. Killing the community would be far worse than providing something no one wants. They are already killing it by pushing unbalanced PnP.
I wish there was more for armada. We just got into it and it’s a great time! My son is all about the republic but can’t expand his fleet :(
Hopefully get to see some card reveals for legion soon
Rey? Finn? Come on bro.... we are all tyring to forget that movies...
I enjoyed those films a moderate amount.
@@Crabbok🤡💩🤣🤣🤣🤣
I would love to know how much cost is incurred by having Armada/X-wing ships assembled and pre-painted. I have a feeling it's significant. Perhaps lower cost to the consumer (also could use boxes instead of blisters) of sprues might help game sales?
i now play no AMG games.
For me, Specialist Ops is good for when I'm playing an overall campaign in Legion.
I just wanted to finally buy the imperial corvette, why don't they want my money?
My homebrew cards have more play testers than atomic mass, just sayinnnn (also think the stuff they design versus ffg does a poor/awkward job at capturing the narrative themes of the units/characters on screen)
I will 100% offer my model building skills for a lucrehulk building network
I think they've bought the game to then do their own thing with it. I think they are choking the life out of it, while working ontheir own ship game. Wait till we are all sick of it then release the game like hey you liked xwing, what about this?
My poor Gaz collecting more dust.
I’d just love to see one more wave of armada. Give us the Acclimator and Munificent as stand alone ships and a last fighter pack for each side including the Z-95 and ETA-2, please! No new pre painted ships and they could even do the fighters on sprues!
So disappointed in AMG’s stewardship of these classic FFG games. As a X-Wing and Armada player the rollercoaster ride of ‘is there a new release, news, updates???’ And to be continually let down and disappointed has shifted my buying elsewhere. I definitely have zero plans to get into Shatterpoint or MCP after watching them run X-Wing and Armada into the ground. Too bad, Asmodee really shot themselves in the foot with that decision. Global sales are massively down after AMG’s takeover
There are a few of us trying to keep it alive with homebrew Epic rules and points, but AMG has gone radio silent. Kind of sucks but not surprising. I won't be playing any new AMG or FFG games since there is no expectation they will support the games. I was never a tournament guy, so if I can play with my friends I'm good. It is harder to find players unfortunately.
Disappointed that they didn't mention anything about Armada. Do like the ships on spures idea but it's hard for me to build and paint due to my hand/wrist injuries. Could let someone do it for me but not willing to spend a lot of money for them to do it for me.
This video popped up on my feed post-XWing-armada end. I thought it was a new development! Sadly just another example of AMG pooping on Crabbok for four years straight.
Ughhhhh AMG is the worst
xwing lost me. current way the game works scenario scoring and lisbuilding, makes it difficult for ace type of style lists to compete. very restrictive and i feel forced into building and playing a specific way. i dont think huge ships would have brought me back.
The way AMG handling x-wing is terrible, they buy a game and basically killing the game, new rules so-so not the old, but not bad. New ships? Well they interesting. The squad building, non-existing, the release a document and that's the end of it. I think couple of us love hating the FFG squad builder, but they are at last trying to do something even if it was not too good. AMG do NOTHING, here's the document have fun. Sorry they release a new pont system with a good conept, but terrible point system.
Anyone who buys Shatterpoint is guilty like Brutus and Cassius of sticking a knife in the body of the dying X-Wing/Armada series. Atomic Mass Games is every bit as awful a company as Games Workshop. Divest. Divest of these games now, because AMG doesn't care about players or play experiences. They care about ownership, control, and money (Probably in that order).
Legion fights 40K, spec ops fights Killteam, shatterpoint is for people who want out of the 40K ecosphere but don’t wanna paint mutants and venom…
Armada needs at least 2-3 more Clone Wars waves to be still playable for those factions if the game dies. X-Wing is just a corpse being dragged along for the “we have the only SW mini games” and Legion is hardly getting much content and it’s very slow. I believe they are trying to screw over all the other players. They are trying to murder these games so they can take care of their precious baby Marvel Crisis Protocol and their cheap copy cat game Shatterpoint. They should never have gotten those games. I honestly will celebrate if AMG fails and collapses. Literally the same as EA with SW video games. Kill all other games for their own.
goddamnit, is there no company Armada could be given to? (thats a rhetorical question oc)
It is pointless to get annoyed again and again about them, I dream of a company who‘s dream it is to work with us on Armada (oh, and offers Star Trek Armada in parallel :) )
I cannot buy Armada products anymore in the EU. Trying to find a card upgrade collection for months now....
They want to keep legion alive because it's by far their biggest game. I don't think people realize that for whatever reason..
Why, Asmodee, why? FFG was doing such an amazing job with X-Wing, Armada, AND Legion. But you guys just had to strip FFG of their successful games and left them with little more than card games. Personally, I don’t think AMG is worthy of developing X-Wing. Give the license to WizKids, at least they continue to improve Star Trek Attack Wing/Alliances.
Good info in this article. AMG has a lot they need to work on and they don’t have to tells us everything, so I’m glad we got this. There are some glaring issues, some of which they are working on and others which, sadly, they are not
Dang it 28 mins late
22:01- I need to ask this and get more information on it before I can say anything about this video. But can you please point me in the right direction and/or just tell me the title of your video that talks about you jumping to conclusions about Armada being dead and this is the real information about it?!? I couldn’t find it the last time I left a comment about it and I’m pretty sure no one got back to me about it that time either! Or CZcams just never notified me about it. Wouldn’t be the first time that’s happened! What I got from the original article about Armada was that they will work with what is already out there but there will be no new models for it. I have all these games as well and it was disappointing that AG will not be making new models for it. Especially since one of them I would have loved to see hasn’t been made yet.
Big ships never had a place in the game.
I get enough sprues from gundam kits😅, don't want more.
It will be interesting to see what they do in the coming weeks.
AMG sucks... ruined x wing. Loved list building and feel forced into one play style
Where is Ministravaganza held?
I would love to have small Star Wars ship models I can assemble and paint. And if I can play a game with them? I'm so in. Give me more Armada!
I think you are missing the point of Spec Ops, it’s an opportunity to do units that don’t fit thematically in legion like tusken raiders, wing guard that sort of thing.
You mean Shatterpoint right?
@@Crabbok lol while true, I have no interest in Shatterpoint, I don’t like the mechanics. But I’ll buy weird little legion sized kill teams all day. It will also allow for some neat conversions and kit bashes.
This was disappointing news
I think the key words in there about epic ships is "at this time." They have to reshape the core game before they can even think about continuing epic ships.
I would love armada ships on spru
Have to say I don't really understand why you're trying to create an issue where there isn't one.
Should AMG release at least points for existing epic ships in casual play? Yes. But all that was stated here is that which has been stated since they took over from FFG - they're concentrating on the core game for now
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Where my bad batch at?!