Dr. Walker's appearance on Joe Rogan basically changed my everything for me in terms of sleep. I'm in my mid thirties and really feel how a lack of sleep completely wrecks my body. Since I've seen his interviews and read his book, I aim for at least 7 hours of solid sleep, but 8-9 if possible, and man, it makes such a difference, physically AND cognitively. I learn languages, and they stick so much better since I get more sleep, it's almost scary.
I have always prioritized and valued my sleep above everything my whole life. I've been accused of sleeping too much by so many people who say, "You can sleep when you're dead," and now I finally have my affirmation. I always knew sleep was important but not to this degree. Dr. Walker is an immensely great speaker! He is so knowledgeable and eloquent in his descriptions while using very understandable analogies and metaphors to further his point. This was a very informative and incredible talk, however, terrifying as well!
No one talks about stress, That's a big one for lack of sleep. We all need to slow down, relax our brains, exercise during the day and quit worrying about everything, surrender ourselves to just giving up tension and mind ruminations.
This guy is impressive. He just spit out detail after detail from so many different studies and experiments for over 2 hours. No question about how much he knows about his area of study. Great interview!
Invaluable information. I'm one of the so called life-long DSPD sufferers. This makes me very aware of my sleep patterns. Everything that's mentioned in this interview is so on point, it explains all the problems I was experiencing with health, learning, weight gain, and overal functioning throughout my life. Such a fascinating subject. Thank you!
I recently purchased Matt's book after seeing him talk on JRE. This was also a great episode (as usual Rhonda). But, what I really want to say is that Matt's book has been the best solution for getting my kids to sleep at night; I'm not kidding, 10 minutes tops! There must be something hypnotic about the large number of long slowly rolling sentences. Thanks.
Thank you for another incredible video Rhonda. Dr. Walker speaks so eloquently and with such passion that he was able to talk about sleep for hours on end without making the audience the least bit drowsy! The world is very fortunate to have both of you and I personally am grateful for how you have both enriched my life. Thank you again.
As a college student who normally has 5-6 hours sleep from school, work and an internship makes me rethink some of my priorities. Thanks for sharing this!
I've always been a big fan of sleep. I've been doing it almost every day for as long as I can remember. I'm happy to learn that it's also good for you.
Who is this interviewer? So refreshing to hear an interviewer who is informed and can actually contribute to the discussion, rather than just reeling off a list of questions!
Great talk! If you want to address sleep in hospitals, start with teaching staff in MED school and have doctors and nurses stop glamourizing being sleep deprived!!
Thank you so much to both of you. By far, one of the best videos on CZcams regarding sleep. My family has had Alzheimer's parent. We are always hoping to avoid it with lifestyle science.
So much info, so many questions! 1) Does the light we need early in the day come through corrective lenses (glasses) or car windows? 2) We make less melatonin as we age, is supplementing melatonin a good idea? 3) How do naps fit into a healthy sleep pattern (I am over 60, so I am questioning for my age group, but interested in all age groups) 4) Binaural beats can help stimulate Delta waves, are they a good idea while we sleep? 5) Re: the lower temperature at night info: Does just not using blankets help out for those without air conditioning? It would be awesome if you could answer these questions on a follow-up session. Thanks for another great podcast!!!!
Extraordinarily informative. And Dr. Patrick, you really know how to conduct an effective interview. Fyi, I suffered from profound insomnia starting in my early 40s, which may have permanently damaged my memory, but there were other noticeable brain effects: Starting around age 60, despite being well-physically-coordinated otherwise, I had surprising difficulty dialing a number on the telephone, and could not back up a car in a straight line, even with repeated tries. I was on Rx sleep meds (like Ambien, Benadryl, you-name-it) for years, which likely did even more damage. Unrelenting insomnia forced me to retire early. I was sick with respiratory infections all throughout the years, from trashed immunity. I was on Rx sleep meds (like Ambien, Benadryl, you-name-it) for years, which were ineffective and likely did even more damage. Then I found the solution. I'd been a vegetarian starting at age 40. At age 67 I began eating red meat for the first time in 27 years, and slept like a baby.
@@jesperburns Thanks for asking. Definitely still eat my veggies, I don't go in for the latest crazes like the "carnivore" (all-meat) diet. Although I'm eating meat & eggs, I greatly cut back on dairy, except for yogurt from goat's milk and real butter. Animal fats are **necessary** for health, I was so stupid about that for decades. I buy grass-fed beef hamburger that has more fat content (15-20%) rather than the lean stuff. I've changed my veggies: (1) I eliminated grains of any kind, for several reasons having nothing to do with gluten; am eating more root vegetables; (2) Now eating tons of fermented vegetables, mainly a delicious, locally-made, artisan kimchi. Also started on digestive enzyme supplements that contain phytase, an enzyme that breaks down phytic acid (an anti-nutrient found in all veggies).
Fantastic episode! Can imagine after thirty years of battling with non-24-hour sleep-wake disorder just how much of this kind of stuff I've consumed in my life-after all those _long_ distressed nights slumming around on the Internet before I finally figured out how to use melatonin at an extremely precise dose at an extremely precise time to stabilize my circadian clock. This is a good as it gets. This one episode has more highly quality information than was known to the entire field of circadian biology in the 1990s. There were a few spectacular results back then, rendered twice as spectacular because of how they stood apart from the great black void that constituted the rest of the field in those days. And now chronobiology is second only the the microbiome as _the_ most happening field in biochemistry/microbiology that formerly got no respect. Is there chronobiology of the microbiome? You betcha. Double your research pleasure with poop spindles.
I have never commented to a CZcams channel before but I felt compelled to share. This was an incredibly fascinating wealth of information. Well done to you both. Thank you
In a nutshell for the people who have no time for 2.5 hours of great information: More and more has it been proven that sleep affects nearly EVERYTHING mentally and physically in us humans: memory, motivation, social behaviour, industriousness, creativeness, open-mindedness, perseverance, empathy, the ability to enjoy things, the willingness to live, stress, muscle gains/losses, fat gains/losses, appetite (more sleep = less ghreline = smaller appetite), strength, endurance, explosiveness, response time, recovery, ability to develop new motor skills (musical instruments, sports, crafts etc.), the strength and regeneration of our immune system, the agression of auto-immune responses, inflammation, oxidisation, blood pressure etc. It's arguably the longest list of benefits from anything imaginable. Good sleep has great synergy with everything else we do right in our life. On the other hand, bad sleep will diminish our gains from whatever we try to do right (supplements, diet, training etc.). Good sleep is heavily underrated. --- Even I don't get enough sleep (6,5-7h of real sleep). It can be hard to break bad habits when you get closer to middle age, but we have to try, because more sleep can seriously influence our life's general succes.
I bought Dr. Walker's book but ironically I would fall asleep before I could read it, now I am awoken to finish it. Btw, a truly wonderful video on sleep. Thank you so very much for giving us all this gift :)
This was one of the most fascinating podcasts I have ever heard! Incredible information on our single most important and underrated growth and healing mechanism, Thankyou!
It's so awesome to listen to two scientists talking about a fascinating subject, and you can just see and feel their enthusiasm. The way Rhonda's eyes lit up when Matthew was talking about the effects of cytokines on sleep. It's someone finding a new piece of the puzzle, or a confirmation of a theory or bigger picture that is being confirmed by an expert. Lovely to see. F*ck yeah, science! ❤ I will definitely rewatch this one (and get some sleep on it of course!), since it is filled with so much nuggets of knowledge. Thank you for this amazing conversation!
loved the jre matt walker podcast and looking forward to listening to this on the train! potential future vid on skin flora and eczema/other such skin conditions? I know of many people who might benefit from the perspective you offer!
whahoo!! Back again... keep em coming lol! Looking forward to Dr. Sinclair. I've been taking Niagen and Resveratrol for about a month ( as well as sulforaphane smoothie for a year) I'm finding it easier to stay alert through the day and noticeable increase in energy.
A great, very informative discussion of a very neglected health topic. Matthew has just a few traces of a Merseyside accent left! Great job both of you!!
Thank you for an excellent interview. My BA is in Psychology with emphasis on learning theory. I'm familiar with the research. I decided on a career change to Landscape Architecture. In Architecture schools, the all-nighters are required. I had no idea beforehand. Yes, required - for as many nights as possible. I didn't do it. I'm not uneducated in that regard. So if you are looking for a willing group of subjects, check out that school. Honestly, I was completely shocked by the culture of the studio. I was actually made fun of for not doing all-nighters. I didn't care and I still refused. In the workplace, the same belief carries through. It's a profession that values long hours over common sense. So, I founded my own business. I'm not interested in a short life. I want to have a long life and enjoy it. Again, awesome interview. It expanded my knowledge about the research. And please, send it over to your architecture (land, building, interior) depts. at your school ;) Cheers, Tricia
Thank you so much for sharing your conversation on sleep. So much good information. I feel like my family make excellent study examples of how important sleep is. My husband I are in our late 50s both have high blood pressure. My husband has been a medicated diabetic since 1999. I have sleep apnea, now on a CPAP and am over weight. My daughter is over weight and snores. My 5 year old grandson has suffered from night terrors since he was an infant. Our daily habits and work routines really effect our our sleep and health. Thank you for the tips on caffeine, diet and light before bed. I know I'll be watching this video again.t
Rhonda, this podcast was fantastic; one of your best! Keep up the good work. This guest had so much great information that, well, I couldn't sleep last night :-)
Wow this has been a phenomenally informative video. The references to the papers throughout the video is an excellent way for us to seek out more info too!!!
To think that success in modern life is centred around how much one can do or fit into a 24hr window. Most successful people say they sleep less, yet that is the cause of illness, Aging and reduced a life span. How about new parents who are sleep deprived for at most 5yrs of having children and the extreme deprivation that new mothers undergo? Fascinating stuff!
I wish you would've elaborated more on the topic of viral and bacterial profile in lonely people. Can you link to studies? I'd love to learn more about it.
I would think loneliness is a stressor so it would lower immunity. Do you mean their bacterial gut profile or just in general? I will look for some studies and post a link if I find any!
Awesome video, he explains the connections so well! I am a Psychopathology student currently writing a paper on the effects of sleep (deprivation) on later obesity. This helped me so much. Thank you!
Amazing! Thank you for sharing, this is life habit changing for many of us... for the better! This is one of very few long vids I could actually listen to, all the way through. It was that capturing
Great podcast! I know what I must do to have better sleep. That is to try to listen to fascinating podcasts like this during the day. I woke up early morning and kept putting the podcast back to catch a point I might have missed and of course, I didn't get back to sleep. I'll go back to listening to a philosophical podcast like Dr Peterson, enjoy listening for a while and fall back into a nice sleep:) My bad. Thank you for your great programs.
A few mental note takeaways. 1.) You can increase your recall by playing sounds and smells associated with certain memories in your sleep. 2.) non rem aids short term memory, rem helps with long term and also idea making and creative problem solving 3) you can potentially wake yourself up during rem (maybe by loosely timing an alarm based on sleep cycle) that will make your dreams (creative rem associations) more recallable and available to your memory (could be inventions or answers to problems you couldn't solve in there!) 4) sleeping sufficiently before and after learning are critically important to learning
Hello dr. Rhonda I am a pharmacist and I work overnight in a 7 on 7 off pattern. I switch my sleeping to get normal sleeping on my days off. But I am struggling with sleeping averaging 5 hours daily. Can you make a video for people like us on how to mitigate the effects of night shift or how to improve day sleeping ? Thank you so much!
Walker mentioned how you can't deposit and withdraw benefits from sleep like a bank. Lost sleep already has done its damage. However, looking at pilots with overnight flights, they take 20 minute naps before they're going to be sleep deprived to minimize its negative effects. Walker's book "Why We Sleep" goes more into this.
So just got to the part ~25 minutes in where Dr. Walker discusses his theory that he believes it might be possible that we store most, if not all, of our dream data; commenting that there are times that we come across things later that remind us of a dream we had. I have always thought that the deja vu feeling/experience may possibly be a result of a dream memory "come to life" but because who knows when you had the dream you are unable to make that connection but it gives you that overwhelming familiar feeling. I get the deja vu feeling a lot.
Ridiculous quality content. Everyone needs to be watching this stuff and at least trying to understand the studies posted so we know what we're arguing about in the ig comments. Thanks doc
I always knew that sleep deprivation and your daily habits and dietary lifestyle choices for gut health are responsible for the onset of many chronic conditions, but try telling that to your Doctor in the U.K. and they just think you need counselling! 🤦🏽♂️ So glad I found this video as I’m learning so much more than I already knew and to permanently fix my sleep issues which got wrecked by pointless antibiotic administration from the hospitals who think they know what they are doing, but haven’t got a clue for most of the part! 😩
Very interesting! Especially interesting is how interrelated all the systems are, and how connected they are to sleep. And this is not in random ways, but everything is perfectly ordered to work best with a certain quantity and quality of sleep. It points to human life being designed. Another evidence for that is that most everything in modern life works against the right kind of sleep. If evolution were our origin, we would have evolved to thrive on the conditions that exist. But no, the truth is that we have strayed from the design.
When I was late for school, I told teachers "I overslept! I feel bad to wake up early". They would not listen! Where was Dr Walker when I needed him to explain why we really need to get good sleep! 80% of kids these days go sleepy to school. How can they learn?
I don't have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep for 8 hours, but often when I wake up, I don't feel fully rested. It's so annoying. Wish I could just force my body into the deepest REM sleep every night so I can feel my best every single day. Hopefully science will hook us up soon with some kind of magic, so we don't have to take the risk anymore of waking up feeling unrested. Ultimately, I would like it to be like fixing hunger, I eat and the hunger is gone. And when I'm tired, I should be able to sleep and not be tired anymore. So yeah. Such a struggle for so many. I see so many sleep deprived people around me even though they sleep "just fine"....but they're not getting anywhere near the amount of REM sleep they should, that's for sure.
36:38 This has been a few very interesting long minutes. I just learned from the habilitation for adults with autism here in Sweden, that autistic people are more tired and don’t get as much or as good sleep as "normal" people. And many symptoms we all walk around with are synonymous with his description of sleep-depravation. Many of us all have anxiety, anti-social traits (we don’t want to be with people and they don’t want to be with us), depression, etc etc. almost literally all of the sh*t he talked about being increased exponentially by sleep-depravation we (most of us) all have all the time. This is very interesting. I hoped he would mention the correlation of sleep-depravation and autistic traits, symptoms, conditions, general sh*t we deal with; but so far nothing and I also understand that, that isn’t his field but damn I hope he mentions something about it, since it is so closely linked… Granted this video is from four years ago and it is possible the stuff about autistic folks sleep being worse than for "normal" people has been a more recent discovery, I mean I learned of it four days ago myself and have sporadically learned more about my diagnosis for the past 11 years that I have been officially afflicted with it and this is the first time it has been brought up for me so... anyway, interesting stuff, though I doubt he will give me anything useful to sleep better since this is all angled towards “normal” people. But here is to hoping! Will edit with more thoughts throughout. Edit: A bit before 39:11. Ok there we have it. He didn’t mention autism by name, but it could be alluded to imo.
About to put this on for the third time while doing some manual labor. Completely fascinated and grateful that the rest of my life will be changed from this.
Third times a charm? things are getting interesting? when Matthew references the "replay speed at x10-x20" while dreaming, which repeats, could this cycling, be a brain running repeat scenarios at a increased rate for multiple reasons, 1) being that the quicker it "replays" the faster the subject (conscious) has to make the decisions 2) being the brain runs a multitude of (false)similar scenarios (in a safe environment) for experience time ... kind of like getting 9-19 second chances on what ever the scenario is?
Excellent information. Thank you! Really curious what part thyroid might play, or rather the struggle to keep thyroid consistent. It really takes a toll on your sleep. And the struggle to counteract with caffeine just to function. Can be frustrating. Being tested regularly but still fluctuates greatly.
We are inexorably rushing towards the singular moment in which Dr. Sinclair will make his appearance on the FoundMyFitness channel. Picture yourself in a wormhole, ripping through time and space... the vast starfield blurring in your vision until you are basked in only pure white light. Incredibly, as your journey comes to an end, you find yourself in the matrix loading room sitting in a comfortable armchair watching a fabulous 1.5-hour podcast from a now-dated television with Dr. Sinclair who, perhaps unremarkably, appears to have not aged even a moment throughout the vastness of your journey which must have surely stretched eons.
More serious answer... We have another shorter episode before the one with Dr. Sinclair, so I can't give an estimate this second. We're working to get these out faster, though. Stay tuned.
I'm curious to know how a combination of sleep deprivation and a lack of social development/interaction can have an impact on individuals who suffer from autoimmune disorders. Does a chronic lack of these two factors increase the potential for people to develop such disorders? And if so, can treatments be created to reverse the impacts of these factors? I really enjoyed this video, thank you so much for the content!
Dr. Walker's appearance on Joe Rogan basically changed my everything for me in terms of sleep. I'm in my mid thirties and really feel how a lack of sleep completely wrecks my body. Since I've seen his interviews and read his book, I aim for at least 7 hours of solid sleep, but 8-9 if possible, and man, it makes such a difference, physically AND cognitively. I learn languages, and they stick so much better since I get more sleep, it's almost scary.
Same here. A real life changer. Thank you Matthew!
So much new information about sleep! I’m so grateful for you both. Thank you!
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@@camilloiscariota4973 Placebo is good😉
Same here. First time see him on JRE I started taking sleep seriously and hes right, learning faster and feel much better.
I have always prioritized and valued my sleep above everything my whole life. I've been accused of sleeping too much by so many people who say, "You can sleep when you're dead," and now I finally have my affirmation. I always knew sleep was important but not to this degree. Dr. Walker is an immensely great speaker! He is so knowledgeable and eloquent in his descriptions while using very understandable analogies and metaphors to further his point. This was a very informative and incredible talk, however, terrifying as well!
WE need to know the Science and act accordingly
Sleep well my FRIENDs ⚡✨
Yes ! To many people in society flex on the little hours of sleep they need … these people are putting themselves at a huge health risk.
Sleeping too much is bad too.
These two people literally saved my life, I'm so excited I found a conversation between both of them
How. How did they save your life.
Wise words for our healthier futures...
What is the lady’s name? Can’t find it anywhere...
Ahhhh so glad to see this is out. Dr Walker is FANTASTIC and his book is excellent.
And Dr Patrick is my health hero. Gotta mention Rhonda !! You've helped me extend my life and make it better in the interim Rhonda ! Thanks !
He's a fraud.
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Reading NOW...
FANfuckintabulous shareable KNOWledge
'Sleep is the Swiss army knife of HEALth REcovery"
BEE your own sleep ambassador 😴😴😋
No one talks about stress, That's a big one for lack of sleep. We all need to slow down, relax our brains, exercise during the day and quit worrying about everything, surrender ourselves to just giving up tension and mind ruminations.
Starting Yoga meditation Saturday... Thank You for the pointer and your observations 🤔🧐🧘🏼🤸🌅😴
This guy is impressive. He just spit out detail after detail from so many different studies and experiments for over 2 hours. No question about how much he knows about his area of study. Great interview!
Hes the real deal
Increasing the human experience & potential with each podcast, Thanks Rhonda!
Invaluable information. I'm one of the so called life-long DSPD sufferers. This makes me very aware of my sleep patterns. Everything that's mentioned in this interview is so on point, it explains all the problems I was experiencing with health, learning, weight gain, and overal functioning throughout my life. Such a fascinating subject. Thank you!
JRE brought me here ! Ps : Both of you completely changed or should I say , improved my life with all your knowledge !! Ty doctors 🥦😴
More BEST Days ahead
I recently purchased Matt's book after seeing him talk on JRE. This was also a great episode (as usual Rhonda). But, what I really want to say is that Matt's book has been the best solution for getting my kids to sleep at night; I'm not kidding, 10 minutes tops! There must be something hypnotic about the large number of long slowly rolling sentences.
Thanks.
Whatever works BEST
Thank You for parenting RIGHT
Sleep well my FRIENDs assisting FRIENDS surTHRIVAL 😴💞
Thank you for having him on your show! He is so amazing at explaining science to make it easily digestible :)
Watching a podcast on the importance of sleep at 3am from a blue light emitting screen. Shit lol
use f.lux software :-)
i listen to them instead with screen switched off))
Thank you for another incredible video Rhonda.
Dr. Walker speaks so eloquently and with such passion that he was able to talk about sleep for hours on end without making the audience the least bit drowsy!
The world is very fortunate to have both of you and I personally am grateful for how you have both enriched my life. Thank you again.
Amazing episode. Would be very interesting to have him on again w. specific focus on solving sleep problems for chronically sleep deprived people.
Just realized two of my favorite people in the health space did a podcast together. Can't wait to dive in.
As a college student who normally has 5-6 hours sleep from school, work and an internship makes me rethink some of my priorities. Thanks for sharing this!
sleeping to podcasts on sleep is very 2019 💫💫💫💫
Lol yes
did you make hottest day in new york? thats such a dope beat i love your music
love your real time referencing!
listening to this at midnight unable to sleep
I've always been a big fan of sleep. I've been doing it almost every day for as long as I can remember. I'm happy to learn that it's also good for you.
Who is this interviewer? So refreshing to hear an interviewer who is informed and can actually contribute to the discussion, rather than just reeling off a list of questions!
The Best we have as yet on earth.IS
R P
Great talk! If you want to address sleep in hospitals, start with teaching staff in MED school and have doctors and nurses stop glamourizing being sleep deprived!!
This video and reading the book have absolutely improved my health and life! Sleep *First* is such a novel idea for me.
WHY WE SLEEP for the win WIN WIN WIN 😴💤 RECOVERY well
The amount of useful recommendations in this interview is ridiculous. This is actually LIFE changing to those following up his advice. Incredible
Dr. Walker`s expressions are nearly poetic. A few hours of quality literature before bed seem to pay off.
Thank you so much to both of you.
By far, one of the best videos on CZcams regarding sleep. My family has had Alzheimer's parent. We are always hoping to avoid it with lifestyle science.
I'm so glad this podcast exists. You're both awesome. Thank you Dr. Patrick. :)
So much info, so many questions! 1) Does the light we need early in the day come through corrective lenses (glasses) or car windows? 2) We make less melatonin as we age, is supplementing melatonin a good idea? 3) How do naps fit into a healthy sleep pattern (I am over 60, so I am questioning for my age group, but interested in all age groups) 4) Binaural beats can help stimulate Delta waves, are they a good idea while we sleep? 5) Re: the lower temperature at night info: Does just not using blankets help out for those without air conditioning? It would be awesome if you could answer these questions on a follow-up session. Thanks for another great podcast!!!!
Best interview I’ve seen with him and believe a lot of this isn’t in his book. Amazing!!!!!!
I love telling other people about the fascinating discoveries in this video! Thanks Dr. P
Friends assisting FRIENDs surTHRIVAL together sharing what works BEST for US alllll
ZZZZ Sleep RECOVERY well my FRIENDs ⚡
Maybe one of the most important informational videos of one's lifetime ! Thank you, Drs. Walker and Patrick !!!
This was unreal informative! Thankyou so much you two, I've learned a lot to help my own clients.
Extraordinarily informative. And Dr. Patrick, you really know how to conduct an effective interview.
Fyi, I suffered from profound insomnia starting in my early 40s, which may have permanently damaged my memory, but there were other noticeable brain effects: Starting around age 60, despite being well-physically-coordinated otherwise, I had surprising difficulty dialing a number on the telephone, and could not back up a car in a straight line, even with repeated tries. I was on Rx sleep meds (like Ambien, Benadryl, you-name-it) for years, which likely did even more damage. Unrelenting insomnia forced me to retire early. I was sick with respiratory infections all throughout the years, from trashed immunity. I was on Rx sleep meds (like Ambien, Benadryl, you-name-it) for years, which were ineffective and likely did even more damage. Then I found the solution. I'd been a vegetarian starting at age 40. At age 67 I began eating red meat for the first time in 27 years, and slept like a baby.
So, do you still eat a lot of vegetables or have you switched it up completely?
@@jesperburns Thanks for asking. Definitely still eat my veggies, I don't go in for the latest crazes like the "carnivore" (all-meat) diet. Although I'm eating meat & eggs, I greatly cut back on dairy, except for yogurt from goat's milk and real butter. Animal fats are **necessary** for health, I was so stupid about that for decades. I buy grass-fed beef hamburger that has more fat content (15-20%) rather than the lean stuff. I've changed my veggies: (1) I eliminated grains of any kind, for several reasons having nothing to do with gluten; am eating more root vegetables; (2) Now eating tons of fermented vegetables, mainly a delicious, locally-made, artisan kimchi. Also started on digestive enzyme supplements that contain phytase, an enzyme that breaks down phytic acid (an anti-nutrient found in all veggies).
@@Celtokee Thanks for the swift and comprehensive response. I learned something new today: phytase. I'll definitely check that out. Cheers!
Fantastic episode! Can imagine after thirty years of battling with non-24-hour sleep-wake disorder just how much of this kind of stuff I've consumed in my life-after all those _long_ distressed nights slumming around on the Internet before I finally figured out how to use melatonin at an extremely precise dose at an extremely precise time to stabilize my circadian clock. This is a good as it gets.
This one episode has more highly quality information than was known to the entire field of circadian biology in the 1990s. There were a few spectacular results back then, rendered twice as spectacular because of how they stood apart from the great black void that constituted the rest of the field in those days.
And now chronobiology is second only the the microbiome as _the_ most happening field in biochemistry/microbiology that formerly got no respect. Is there chronobiology of the microbiome? You betcha. Double your research pleasure with poop spindles.
The stuff on loneliness is so illuminating, my goodness
This guys saved my life with sleep science and makes complete sense 👏👏👏👏 matthew keep doing this
I have never commented to a CZcams channel before but I felt compelled to share. This was an incredibly fascinating wealth of information. Well done to you both. Thank you
In a nutshell for the people who have no time for 2.5 hours of great information: More and more has it been proven that sleep affects nearly EVERYTHING mentally and physically in us humans: memory, motivation, social behaviour, industriousness, creativeness, open-mindedness, perseverance, empathy, the ability to enjoy things, the willingness to live, stress, muscle gains/losses, fat gains/losses, appetite (more sleep = less ghreline = smaller appetite), strength, endurance, explosiveness, response time, recovery, ability to develop new motor skills (musical instruments, sports, crafts etc.), the strength and regeneration of our immune system, the agression of auto-immune responses, inflammation, oxidisation, blood pressure etc. It's arguably the longest list of benefits from anything imaginable. Good sleep has great synergy with everything else we do right in our life. On the other hand, bad sleep will diminish our gains from whatever we try to do right (supplements, diet, training etc.). Good sleep is heavily underrated. --- Even I don't get enough sleep (6,5-7h of real sleep). It can be hard to break bad habits when you get closer to middle age, but we have to try, because more sleep can seriously influence our life's general succes.
What a fascinating and eyeopening podcast! Thank you so much for this! I am sharing this with all my family and friends. Anyone should watch this.
Thank you so much for providing us with this unbelievably valuable information. One of the most useful and enlightening podcasts.
I listened to this while driving from Canberra to Melbourne, and it was the best so far. Well done.
I bought Dr. Walker's book but ironically I would fall asleep before I could read it, now I am awoken to finish it. Btw, a truly wonderful video on sleep. Thank you so very much for giving us all this gift :)
Thanks Dr Patrick for how you make brillant experts imperical cutting edge in-depth research actually palletable to the average lay person.
Matthew Walker AND Dr. Rhonda.. !
😍😍😍 this is going to be good!
most of the time i dont even care about the topic or guest.
I just watch and listen to Dr Patrick talk.
Thank you for this kind of content. Your videos are so refreshing.
I'm going to listen to this while I'm falling asleep.
This was one of the most fascinating podcasts I have ever heard!
Incredible information on our single most important and underrated growth and healing mechanism, Thankyou!
It's so awesome to listen to two scientists talking about a fascinating subject, and you can just see and feel their enthusiasm. The way Rhonda's eyes lit up when Matthew was talking about the effects of cytokines on sleep. It's someone finding a new piece of the puzzle, or a confirmation of a theory or bigger picture that is being confirmed by an expert. Lovely to see. F*ck yeah, science! ❤
I will definitely rewatch this one (and get some sleep on it of course!), since it is filled with so much nuggets of knowledge.
Thank you for this amazing conversation!
now i know what im doing for the next 2.5 hrs.
@@BadWithNames123 Touché
watching Rhonda with the sound off?
Dr Walker’s book was good and it really made me realize how important sleep truly is, however it did nothing for my insomnia issues.
loved the jre matt walker podcast and looking forward to listening to this on the train!
potential future vid on skin flora and eczema/other such skin conditions? I know of many people who might benefit from the perspective you offer!
whahoo!! Back again... keep em coming lol! Looking forward to Dr. Sinclair. I've been taking Niagen and Resveratrol for about a month ( as well as sulforaphane smoothie for a year) I'm finding it easier to stay alert through the day and noticeable increase in energy.
A great, very informative discussion of a very neglected health topic. Matthew has just a few traces of a Merseyside accent left! Great job both of you!!
Always love to dip back into this podcast with these two greats in the field of true health advocacy.😍😍
Oh boy! Golly! Very informative. I was very happy to see you had a new video. One of the greats for sure. I've got much research to do. Thanks!
Thank you for an excellent interview. My BA is in Psychology with emphasis on learning theory. I'm familiar with the research. I decided on a career change to Landscape Architecture. In Architecture schools, the all-nighters are required. I had no idea beforehand. Yes, required - for as many nights as possible. I didn't do it. I'm not uneducated in that regard. So if you are looking for a willing group of subjects, check out that school.
Honestly, I was completely shocked by the culture of the studio. I was actually made fun of for not doing all-nighters. I didn't care and I still refused. In the workplace, the same belief carries through. It's a profession that values long hours over common sense.
So, I founded my own business. I'm not interested in a short life. I want to have a long life and enjoy it.
Again, awesome interview. It expanded my knowledge about the research. And please, send it over to your architecture (land, building, interior) depts. at your school ;) Cheers, Tricia
Thank you so much for sharing your conversation on sleep. So much good information. I feel like my family make excellent study examples of how important sleep is. My husband I are in our late 50s both have high blood pressure. My husband has been a medicated diabetic since 1999. I have sleep apnea, now on a CPAP and am over weight. My daughter is over weight and snores. My 5 year old grandson has suffered from night terrors since he was an infant. Our daily habits and work routines really effect our our sleep and health. Thank you for the tips on caffeine, diet and light before bed. I know I'll be watching this video again.t
Rhonda, this podcast was fantastic; one of your best! Keep up the good work. This guest had so much great information that, well, I couldn't sleep last night :-)
Thank you so much!
This talk was so informative.
Best video of FMF...
Wow this has been a phenomenally informative video. The references to the papers throughout the video is an excellent way for us to seek out more info too!!!
This is so GOLDEN. Thank you Dr. Patrick and Dr. Walker
To think that success in modern life is centred around how much one can do or fit into a 24hr window. Most successful people say they sleep less, yet that is the cause of illness, Aging and reduced a life span.
How about new parents who are sleep deprived for at most 5yrs of having children and the extreme deprivation that new mothers undergo?
Fascinating stuff!
I wish you would've elaborated more on the topic of viral and bacterial profile in lonely people. Can you link to studies? I'd love to learn more about it.
I would think loneliness is a stressor so it would lower immunity. Do you mean their bacterial gut profile or just in general? I will look for some studies and post a link if I find any!
The number of times I've come back to watch this🙂
Dr. Honda Patrick, you’re so beautiful in this interview...
Matthew Walker is so brilliant too!
Thank you
Awesome video, he explains the connections so well! I am a Psychopathology student currently writing a paper on the effects of sleep (deprivation) on later obesity. This helped me so much. Thank you!
Finally, been waiting for this for months. Thank you! :)
Amazing! Thank you for sharing, this is life habit changing for many of us... for the better! This is one of very few long vids I could actually listen to, all the way through. It was that capturing
Amazing. So informative. Thank you both
While in college I discovered I could remember more with less study time if I had plenty of sleep.
Great podcast!
I know what I must do to have better sleep. That is to try to listen to fascinating podcasts like this during the day.
I woke up early morning and kept putting the podcast back to catch a point I might have missed and of course, I didn't get back to sleep. I'll go back to listening to a philosophical podcast like Dr Peterson, enjoy listening for a while and fall back into a nice sleep:)
My bad. Thank you for your great programs.
A few mental note takeaways. 1.) You can increase your recall by playing sounds and smells associated with certain memories in your sleep. 2.) non rem aids short term memory, rem helps with long term and also idea making and creative problem solving 3) you can potentially wake yourself up during rem (maybe by loosely timing an alarm based on sleep cycle) that will make your dreams (creative rem associations) more recallable and available to your memory (could be inventions or answers to problems you couldn't solve in there!) 4) sleeping sufficiently before and after learning are critically important to learning
Hello dr. Rhonda I am a pharmacist and I work overnight in a 7 on 7 off pattern. I switch my sleeping to get normal sleeping on my days off. But I am struggling with sleeping averaging 5 hours daily. Can you make a video for people like us on how to mitigate the effects of night shift or how to improve day sleeping ? Thank you so much!
Walker mentioned how you can't deposit and withdraw benefits from sleep like a bank. Lost sleep already has done its damage. However, looking at pilots with overnight flights, they take 20 minute naps before they're going to be sleep deprived to minimize its negative effects. Walker's book "Why We Sleep" goes more into this.
So just got to the part ~25 minutes in where Dr. Walker discusses his theory that he believes it might be possible that we store most, if not all, of our dream data; commenting that there are times that we come across things later that remind us of a dream we had. I have always thought that the deja vu feeling/experience may possibly be a result of a dream memory "come to life" but because who knows when you had the dream you are unable to make that connection but it gives you that overwhelming familiar feeling. I get the deja vu feeling a lot.
Wow! Awesome talk! Rhonda you are truly a world leader! Thank you so much for your work.
Ridiculous quality content. Everyone needs to be watching this stuff and at least trying to understand the studies posted so we know what we're arguing about in the ig comments. Thanks doc
One of the best talks so far. Along with Valtet Longo, and Bruce Ames
I always knew that sleep deprivation and your daily habits and dietary lifestyle choices for gut health are responsible for the onset of many chronic conditions, but try telling that to your Doctor in the U.K. and they just think you need counselling! 🤦🏽♂️ So glad I found this video as I’m learning so much more than I already knew and to permanently fix my sleep issues which got wrecked by pointless antibiotic administration from the hospitals who think they know what they are doing, but haven’t got a clue for most of the part! 😩
Excellent information. Thank you for this in depth interview.
Watching this in front of a big bright screen while working at 2am 😎
oh happy day. a new video from the doc! work will be excellent today. :)
Very interesting! Especially interesting is how interrelated all the systems are, and how connected they are to sleep. And this is not in random ways, but everything is perfectly ordered to work best with a certain quantity and quality of sleep. It points to human life being designed. Another evidence for that is that most everything in modern life works against the right kind of sleep. If evolution were our origin, we would have evolved to thrive on the conditions that exist. But no, the truth is that we have strayed from the design.
When I was late for school, I told teachers "I overslept! I feel bad to wake up early". They would not listen! Where was Dr Walker when I needed him to explain why we really need to get good sleep! 80% of kids these days go sleepy to school. How can they learn?
I was waiting so much for the Sincair episode. But Matthew is great as well.
Watching this at 4am.
I don't have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep for 8 hours, but often when I wake up, I don't feel fully rested. It's so annoying. Wish I could just force my body into the deepest REM sleep every night so I can feel my best every single day. Hopefully science will hook us up soon with some kind of magic, so we don't have to take the risk anymore of waking up feeling unrested. Ultimately, I would like it to be like fixing hunger, I eat and the hunger is gone. And when I'm tired, I should be able to sleep and not be tired anymore. So yeah. Such a struggle for so many. I see so many sleep deprived people around me even though they sleep "just fine"....but they're not getting anywhere near the amount of REM sleep they should, that's for sure.
36:38 This has been a few very interesting long minutes. I just learned from the habilitation for adults with autism here in Sweden, that autistic people are more tired and don’t get as much or as good sleep as "normal" people. And many symptoms we all walk around with are synonymous with his description of sleep-depravation. Many of us all have anxiety, anti-social traits (we don’t want to be with people and they don’t want to be with us), depression, etc etc. almost literally all of the sh*t he talked about being increased exponentially by sleep-depravation we (most of us) all have all the time. This is very interesting. I hoped he would mention the correlation of sleep-depravation and autistic traits, symptoms, conditions, general sh*t we deal with; but so far nothing and I also understand that, that isn’t his field but damn I hope he mentions something about it, since it is so closely linked… Granted this video is from four years ago and it is possible the stuff about autistic folks sleep being worse than for "normal" people has been a more recent discovery, I mean I learned of it four days ago myself and have sporadically learned more about my diagnosis for the past 11 years that I have been officially afflicted with it and this is the first time it has been brought up for me so... anyway, interesting stuff, though I doubt he will give me anything useful to sleep better since this is all angled towards “normal” people. But here is to hoping!
Will edit with more thoughts throughout.
Edit: A bit before 39:11. Ok there we have it. He didn’t mention autism by name, but it could be alluded to imo.
About to put this on for the third time while doing some manual labor. Completely fascinated and grateful that the rest of my life will be changed from this.
Third times a charm? things are getting interesting?
when Matthew references the "replay speed at x10-x20" while dreaming, which repeats, could this cycling, be a brain running repeat scenarios at a increased rate for multiple reasons, 1) being that the quicker it "replays" the faster the subject (conscious) has to make the decisions 2) being the brain runs a multitude of (false)similar scenarios (in a safe environment) for experience time ... kind of like getting 9-19 second chances on what ever the scenario is?
Excellent information. Thank you! Really curious what part thyroid might play, or rather the struggle to keep thyroid consistent. It really takes a toll on your sleep. And the struggle to counteract with caffeine just to function. Can be frustrating. Being tested regularly but still fluctuates greatly.
Incredibly thoughtful; similar to a book that's thoughtful and provocative. "Adapting with Aging" by James Crescent
Wonderful conversation. Thank you for making this information available.
So my immune system is using "Postage stamps" Did I hear that right? Thanks for yet another mind blowing video Dr. Campbell.
Absolutely fascinating! Real science!!
When will the episode with Dr. Sinclair be released?
We are inexorably rushing towards the singular moment in which Dr. Sinclair will make his appearance on the FoundMyFitness channel. Picture yourself in a wormhole, ripping through time and space... the vast starfield blurring in your vision until you are basked in only pure white light.
Incredibly, as your journey comes to an end, you find yourself in the matrix loading room sitting in a comfortable armchair watching a fabulous 1.5-hour podcast from a now-dated television with Dr. Sinclair who, perhaps unremarkably, appears to have not aged even a moment throughout the vastness of your journey which must have surely stretched eons.
More serious answer...
We have another shorter episode before the one with Dr. Sinclair, so I can't give an estimate this second. We're working to get these out faster, though. Stay tuned.
@@FoundMyFitness Wow. Sounds exactly like the last time I did DMT.
@@FoundMyFitness Love this!
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So fascinating also the hospital beds…so accurate
I'm curious to know how a combination of sleep deprivation and a lack of social development/interaction can have an impact on individuals who suffer from autoimmune disorders. Does a chronic lack of these two factors increase the potential for people to develop such disorders? And if so, can treatments be created to reverse the impacts of these factors? I really enjoyed this video, thank you so much for the content!
so much good information here -thanks for doing and posting this interview
It would be cool to see Dr. Patrick, Dr. Walker and Dr. Sinclair in the same room
Fascinating and important discussion, thank you.